Anyone else here a single virgin primarily because you don't want to put in all that effort or lower your standards?

Anyone else here a single virgin primarily because you don't want to put in all that effort or lower your standards? I was on adv and the normies were giving advice which amounted to a long list of self improvement shit you gotta do to get a gf, then it hit me that girls literally have to do none of that to get men. There no way I can play such a ridiculous game, how do normies do it?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >how do normies do it?
    They make compromises.
    Perhaps his gf weighs more than is ideal, but he does not see any better options at the moment. Perhaps her boyfriend likes Star Wars too much. She can choose to ignore his Star Wars references in conversation

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My best friend settled for a BPD single mother. Doesn't seem worth it all. I feel like settling for a man typically means accepting your girlfriend won't be attractive or if she is she will have kids.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Women don't make compromises..

      ..and only a fembot would draw a parallel with her weight and his geeky interest.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's always the weight, they just can't not be fat.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not a virgin, but yeah I've always considered dating to be more trouble than it's worth. Of course, this is an unhealthy and irrational worldview generated by a maladjusted mind. The truth about "the juice isn't worth the squeeze" is that it's derived from a fear of commitment. That's all it is really. Too scared of all the potential consequences to pull the trigger on a chance at something nice.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I disagree, it really is just too much work. If there was any underlying truth it's that guys like us don't want it bad enough to work, compromise and sacrifice for it, but there is nothing maladjusted about that. Dating has undeniably gotten harder while the quality of women has gone down, these are terrible circumstances to play in.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Too scared of all the potential consequences to pull the trigger on a chance at something nice.
      For a woman yes. For a man, there is nothing nice to pull.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, it's ridiculously. Normalgays love talking about improvement but the girl can be an used bitter b***h and she still deserves love.
    All I wish is a virgin woman that isn't an butthole yet that seems to much to ask nowadays

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i do things like work out or read/play music/etc because i enjoy it, but i dont want to have to have all the pressure of approaching a girl, having to think of things to say, spam messages at a bunch of women, swipe thousands of times and go through constant rejections. it takes a psychological toll on me. i've adapted fairly well to the work world, but dating and the volatility, unpredictability, and the overwhelming emotions and value one tends to put in their partner is a lot of pressure and im not sure i can handle it. even if i did get a gf i'd probably be paranoid about losing her

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even wanting a woman that isn't obese is too much nowadays. Western society is run by women and israelites yet they complain about patriarchy.
    >YOU'LL ACCEPT THE FAT prostitute THAT'S ANNOYING IF NOT YOU'RE AN INCEL LOSER

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's more so the fact that i don't think there is a women i'd actually like the personality of.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Genuinely asking, do you think you could only have an genuine emotional relationship with a man then?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Eh i still hold out on the hope that maybe there is such a woman. But to answer your question if you mean a romantic relationship with a man then no.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    normie dudes either compromise and date down from their league, or become incels. this is why you see bodybuilders dating hambeasts, it's gotten that bad

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Bro, trust me, go to the gym, get a high paying job, get a cool haircut, have some hobbies and eventually you'll get a fat girlfriend that already fricked half of the town and won't shut her mouth. I swear it's worth it!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's unironically the advice they give nowadays. To them women are goddesses and you should be grateful for every crumble of pussy they give to you, if you have any standards you're a patronizing misogynist

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sounds like a joke but this is how normies actually think

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this is literally and unironically the advice normies give

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    imagine having sex with a b***h that fricked another wiener
    if you even touched another wiener get out of my face
    i dont want you if somebody's hands have touched you other than a kiss. have a nice day
    i will purchase a sex doll or see a PROFESSIONAL prostitute if i want casual sex

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Anyone else here a single virgin primarily because you don't want to put in all that effort or lower your standards?
    Quick question: How has putting in less effort in your Life worked out for you? Seeing as your on NSFFW, it can't be that well. So why would you think anyone would willing want to live like you?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >How has putting in less effort in your Life worked out for you?
      Just because you don't put effort into one thing doesn't mean you can't put effort into others. I still live a happy (somewhat) productive life where I do self improvement for myself. Girls are just one thing I can't justify lifting a finger for, you're just working hard for the opportunity to pay for subpar used pussy 9 times out of 10.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Girls are just one thing I can't justify lifting a finger for, you're just working hard for the opportunity to pay for subpar used pussy 9 times out of 10.
        You gotta work hard for anything worthwhile in this world. Even family, especially family. I'm not being rude or spiteful, if you can honestly say you'll be happy alone then more power to you.

        If someone wants to be fat, weak, or even a troony, and they understand that they're giving up on some things in life and can still find happiness then good job.

        Just couldn't be me. Even if it was that hard to get a GF, I wouldn't stop. Because that just means I have to get better at it.

        Self Improving isn't the way to get a GF as a reward. Self Improving is the reward. If you lived a hard but happy life, you'd have a GF who pushes you to be better and you'd realize that as much as you love your GF or Wife, you could survive without her and find love again if push comes to shove. Living a subpar Life just isn't good enough for me.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >if you can honestly say you'll be happy alone then more power to you.
          Yeah I've always been just fine without it. I know I don't want it bad enough to settle for less than what I want or to try as hard as it would require. I think that kind of self honesty is good, opposed to just blaming the black pill.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How old are you btw? Because keep in mind, people change over time and hormones happen. You could wake up one day with your biological timer going off. I've seen it happen and had it attack me once or twice and I was only 23 and at 27 it still pushes me to keep going for my goals.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            31. I'm at the point where I care less every year.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Im 33 and finally got a job interview for a lucrative position in my field I went back to school for. Soon I will get money and therefore get b***hes.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Anyone else here a single virgin primarily because you don't want to put in all that effort or lower your standards?
    I put in a lot of effort to improve myself, which is why I'm not gonna lower my standards at all. It just doesn't work like that. The relationship would never ask if I lower my standards. She would get tired of me and vice versa.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You mean you don't want to put yourself out there time after time until you earn the right to give up half of your paycheck in exchange for debatably enhanced masturbation from some obese c**t with a terrible personality and nothing of value to say?

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not a virgin but I think I'm alone because I won't lower my standards. Guys I don't like hit on me all the time and act like they are in love with me. The other day I just told a guy I have a bf and I've been single for over a decade. Gets them away from me and I could just lie even better if they ask questions cos tulpas

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm not a virgin but I think I'm alone because I won't lower my standards.
      What are your standards gayanon/femanon?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly? It's just all about looks. Men who are into me are always 20+ years older than me and I'm into the opposite and I like young guys because they are physically attractive and that's it. But if I can't have exactly that I really don't care if I never have sex again. And I hardly have it now. But it's worse to me to settle. For men I think they can settle easily because they risk nothing by mixing their genes with someone inferior, because they don't carry or birth the offspring. Because giving birth could kill you missing your genes with someone inferior literally goes against evolutionary biology psychology and evolution period. Because women's selection is what drives it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          *Mixing your genes with someone inferior.

          Sorry I just woke up. And pretty much the only signal or marker of superiority imo is beauty. Mostly because I'm hailed as some kind of super genius smart person (durrrrrrrrr) so I never really had any other standards than beauty, because I never had to really. Because of people telling me I'm a super genius since I was a kid and still. My alters are trying to teleport shit. Dumb. Work on slowing down time Matrix style if your so obsessed with Einstein's theory of relativity. Gaza can wait. Kissing Angus can't

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          As a man who doesn't want frick older women, I must respect it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I like older women and think they are sexy, but I've never felt that way about men. There's some older men that I think are cool and really love though like Bernie Sanders. But I have no natural sexual attraction to these guys. Like if I was with Bernie for some reason, he wasn't married or anything, I would have sex with him but only because he asked and to maintain the relationship. And I wouldn't feel disgusted by it but I wouldn't feel attraction or care either. Almost like an asexual who still has sex because they love their partner. But towards younger guys I actually feel active attraction like I want to reach out and touch them I'm not just waiting for them to tell me when they want it like it's my duty to obey them. Not that Bernie would be that type, but that's still how I feel towards all men I don't feel physical attraction to. I can feel attraction to them in a different way. But all the old men I know personally are not that impressive. So I just feel grossed out when they hit on me and think how much money or stuff can I get from them before I'm too grossed out?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nothing wrong with standards but your argument doesn't make sense, them being older doesn't make their genes any worse. If they have residual chad looks then evopsych would say to go for it. There's of course other reasons to worry like them being too old to feed and protect your child or w/e. But not so much genes.
          Also the main evolutionary reason to be picky is opportunity cost, so if you're not getting any it's not helping. If you asked your genes, I guarantee they'd rather you get laid.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > them being older doesn't make their genes any worse.

            No but they look uglier. So an old guy is equal to a deformed young guy in my mind because they are both ugly. That's how my mind processes that information is just: ugly. So primally I still feel disgusted even if these men were hot when they were 17

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > the main evolutionary reason to be picky is opportunity cost, so if you're not getting any it's not helping.

            It's definitely worse on my psychology to get laid with people I don't like than be celibate

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But that being said if I knew any guys who paid for sex I would do it no matter how ugly they were because I need money. But it's illegal here so I know none and wouldn't know how to find them

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Don't care what you do, you can't make yourself be attracted to anyone. It's just not "evopsych" that's making you a femcel. There is no reason for evolution to want you to let all your eggs expire, that is failure in its clearest form. Similarly a dude who spends all day fapping to hentai of 14 year olds and never reproduces also failed, it doesn't matter what evopsych he tries to bring up to justify it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Damn, now I hate you and such rotten critters of girls like you

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty much. The advice is as you said, men are told you must self improve and lower your standards. It's just not worth it, you didn't mention bodycount/virginity and thats a big one. Again you're told it's unrealistic to expect a virgin, so you're going to bust your ass for a woman who didn't even wait until you had all your shit together, while you grind at life she's fricking other dudes, then when you finally make it she graiciously gives you some crumb of attention and you should be grateful for it. If women actually waited it would actually be tolerable, but you genuinely have to ask yourself are you really going to go through so much shit getting the job, the car, the house, etc for a woman who lost her virginity in high school to a guy who had none of those things.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you must self improve and lower your standards.
      You don't need to do either of those things. In fact, they'll hurt your chances.

      >It's just not worth it, you didn't mention bodycount/virginity and thats a big one.
      Preferences are fine, being stubborn and not accepting that in reality your unicorn catch might not fit 1:1 your dream girl is stupid. Ex: I wanted a girl with a huge butt and cute chubby body instead I got a girl with big boobs and loves to be fit. If she's a great catch (and she is) why sweat the nitty gritty details?

      >Again you're told it's unrealistic to expect a virgin
      Depends on your overall expectations.

      >so you're going to bust your ass for a woman who didn't even wait until you had all your shit together, while you grind at life she's fricking other dudes
      You don't bust your ass for women unless you don't want her to ever respect you. And shoot for younger or modest girls if you don't want a bodycount.

      >If women actually waited it would actually be tolerable
      You waited too long already.

      >but you genuinely have to ask yourself are you really going to go through so much shit getting the job, the car, the house, etc for a woman who lost her virginity in high school to a guy who had none of those things
      The only thing you really need for a GF is a car, and that's just so you can visit her and she can visit you. The rest is negotiable.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >And shoot for younger or modest girls if you don't want a bodycount.
        LMAO zoomer women are fricking nightmare mode for dating. They may be younger but they get around are are completely batshit, the only women I meet who talk about being "genderfluid" are under 25s.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >zoomer women are
          Easy to fix/manipulate/train/have potential etc. etc.

          Take your pick. They're young, they're women and they don't have world experience yet, that means they're ripe to made into a housewife. Meanwhile hags are ran thru, set in their ways, and have higher expectations. They want to be promised a diamond ring, a young woman just wants to be promised a dream.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm a hag and I never want to get married. Also I'm non binary

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >married
            The diamond ring is metaphorical, madam. And my young GF thought she was a lesbian and/or transgender, she also wanted to chop off her breasts. Some Vitamin Dick and Postive Thinking later and now she's a woman whose happy in her skin. Everyone wants to fix women, but nobody wants to go out and train them.
            >inb4 whats in it for me?!?!
            I dunno a loyal woman? Use your creative thinking.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I want a long term relationship that lasts for the rest of my life so maybe you are right

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >just lower your standards
    I hold myself accountable to the exact same criteria that I set my expectations of women I'm attracted to. It's called being reasonable. Anyone who seethes about this is a fat redditor projecting their entire neurosis and lifetime of bad decisions onto the entire internet.

    I am also mature enough to understand when I don't meet the standards of women I've been attracted to in the past, and I have been so since I was 17 and I began asking girls out. So far, I've found 3 women attractive enough to offer a date to get to know them better. All 3 were flattered but requested to remain as friends. I never raged or experienced any sort of the indignation that you homosexuals blanket accuse incels of defaulting to. I am still friends with these women.

    I WAS a single virgin, for a long time, but my life changed when I met a girl who, instead of needing to seek her out, she stuck by my side like glue on her own initiative. I befriended her quickly and got to know her over a period of two years, where towards the end of this period, it's become more or less apparent that we were dating. So now I am a coupled virgin. Neither of us have been in a relationship before, so there was no awkwardness to our relationship as we were at the same level, and we platonically enjoy each other's company first above all, although we have teetered pretty close to the edge of sexual contact by massaging each other and cuddling on the couch while watching movies and tv shows. If my career starts off as planned and I can achieve a relative amount of stability in my life, then I'll propose to her.

    To any men reading this blogyap: Have honest standards that you yourself meet. This way, they are effortless to discern in others. Be both actively pursuing women and simultaneously open to friendships with women. Ignore the crystalcafe reddit troony haters completely.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I WAS a single virgin, for a long time, but my life changed when I met a girl who, instead of needing to seek her out, she stuck by my side like glue on her own initiative. I befriended her quickly and got to know her over a period of two years, where towards the end of this period, it's become more or less apparent that we were dating. So now I am a coupled virgin. Neither of us have been in a relationship before, so there was no awkwardness to our relationship as we were at the same level, and we platonically enjoy each other's company first above all, although we have teetered pretty close to the edge of sexual contact by massaging each other and cuddling on the couch while watching movies and tv shows. If my career starts off as planned and I can achieve a relative amount of stability in my life, then I'll propose to her.
      thanks, you made a ugh day worse.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >To any men reading this blogyap: Have honest standards that you yourself meet.
      This is kinda bullshit though. People are mismatched all the time. Fat women with fit men, broke women with rich guys, mentally ill drug addict men with Stacy's, young with old, etc.

      I'm not saying you should just accept your own inadequacies, but its kind of a cuck mentality (common of men) to think you have to be what you want. Women never entertain such nonsense.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >People are mismatched all the time. Fat women with fit men, broke women with rich guys, mentally ill drug addict men with Stacy's, young with old, etc.
        Don't be so quick to judge others based on their looks and apparent virtues. I would guarantee you the one you think they have a compensating quality beneath the surface that makes up for the mismatch. I'm a fit man, and I don't have anything inherently against fat women, but they remind me of my mother and I get disgusted. Better for me to just partner up with someone whose hobby is to be sporty and exercise in the first place. However, I could get past being fat if they had a quality that made up for their ugliness, such as the willingness to drive me around or make me food or housekeep, etc. It's all relative, nothing really groundbreaking being said here.

        >to think you have to be what you want.
        My point was that if you meet your own criteria for dating, then interaction with women you find attractive requires no effort and should come naturally to you, since no one is above the other in terms of perceived social status. Live your life as you are and ask out any woman you find attractive enough to be worthy of being with you, as well as be receptive of having platonic friendships with the opposite sex. You won't be correct every time, but you only need to be right once.

        I'm 31, none of the shit I did in the past worked out as intended so I'm currently looking to go back to uni to become a paramedic. For some people you can try, but life just throws you curveballs.
        I don't hate women, don't blame anyone as some stuff was beyond human control. But in cases like mine shit is bleak as women my age are generally women with a number of bodies and failed relationships that make them jaded as frick. Women who are young are not only not interested in older guys, (those who are have mental health issues) but the idea of dating them also wierds me out. Odds of finding a woman my age without some kind of baggage is very, very slim and it will only get worse as I get older.
        I'm also not the type of guy to just go after any women just for some attention, only a few take my fancy it's not some supermodel looks thing, but a bunch of factors like the general vibe/how she carries herself, some women can be attractive but then it turns out they are trashy and I just lose interest, others I just never click with, etc.

        This fall you had better be in a paramedic program or whatever they call it.
        I would also mention that I completely ignored my dating situation when I had exhausted all of my options and focused entirely on my own skills. I don't regret those actions, since my GPA is back up from my failures during the Covid era and I'm not on academic probation anymore.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seems nice anon, still i don't think that's enough.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sometimes nothing is enough because the environment is impossible. In that case, you have to either be patient and ride it out and wait for new opportunities to come through, which might take years, or you have to drop everything and change your environment to refresh a new set of opportunities to exhaust.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm 31, none of the shit I did in the past worked out as intended so I'm currently looking to go back to uni to become a paramedic. For some people you can try, but life just throws you curveballs.
      I don't hate women, don't blame anyone as some stuff was beyond human control. But in cases like mine shit is bleak as women my age are generally women with a number of bodies and failed relationships that make them jaded as frick. Women who are young are not only not interested in older guys, (those who are have mental health issues) but the idea of dating them also wierds me out. Odds of finding a woman my age without some kind of baggage is very, very slim and it will only get worse as I get older.
      I'm also not the type of guy to just go after any women just for some attention, only a few take my fancy it's not some supermodel looks thing, but a bunch of factors like the general vibe/how she carries herself, some women can be attractive but then it turns out they are trashy and I just lose interest, others I just never click with, etc.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're talking about behavioral standards. Not looks or wealth standards. He wants to be the one to ask for sex and get told no, not the other way around. That's men's nature

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oops wrong thread. Though I'm right I thought I was in the thread of the guy who's gf asked for sex too much

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you'd bang a girl who doesn't shower, is a lazy slob and puts in no effort then you're the reason for women's standards

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't get over how every girl you like will inevitably already have dozens of men chasing her, hundreds of options on dating apps/sm, and at least a handful of dicks on call. Its too much competition and puts you in a weak ass position of needing to cater to her every whim and mind read her icks.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Its too much competition and puts you in a weak ass position of needing to cater to her every whim and mind read her icks.
      You're projecting your imagination onto women you don't even know the names of

      Yeah they might have "options" but what if one doesn't care about the horde, doesn't using online dating apps, and is only interested in you? For some enigmatic, non quantifiable reason, I suppose. Are you still going to self cuck yourself in your own imagination?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Yeah they might have "options" but what if one doesn't care about the horde
        homie, we are the horde! If you asked her out dozens of other men have too. You just gotta hope you get lucky that she is blown away by your first impression compared to hundreds of other men.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My standards are - have a pulse, don't be morbidly obese, no drugs, no kids. The rest I think I could work with. My issue is that I'm so introverted and avoidant that I never meet or connect with anyone in the first place. The concept that someone might want to be in a relationship with me just seems so unlikely that I never pursue anyone because I feel like I would be bothering them or inserting myself into a situation where I'm not wanted.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    at this stage now yeah
    my only genuine hope is that future generations learn from this nightmare but I doubt it.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My standards are in the trash bro. Any girl who is feminine and treats me like a human being and shows some affection towards me I would probably fall in love with

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah I went through the motions and thoughtloops before. At this point, I'm way too fricking tired and exhausted to care. If I got into a relationship, I don't even know if I last a 5 minute long conversation with anyone.

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