Are Men Capable of Love

Can men feel love, or is it just lust and craving sex that brings them into relationships? I often feel like my bf only loves me for my body and I've felt the same from other guys I have dated

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What else do you offer besides your body?
    >Can men feel love
    Yes

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    People are not defined by their gender. There are both men and women who are capable of love, ad there are both men and women who are not capable of love.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >People are not defined by their gender.

      Ah i see, so the physical presence of gender has nothing to do with defining life. Ah i see now, because thoughts do not originate within human brain tissue. Right? They come from somewhere beyond... beyond being defined. Like aliens.

      You cope much.
      Too much.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Ah i see, so the physical presence of gender has >nothing to do with defining life.
        Not with defining personality, at least.
        >because thoughts do not originate within human >brain tissue. Right? They come from somewhere >beyond... beyond being defined. Like aliens.
        please seek medical help

        >People are not defined by their gender.
        That's troony talk.

        >That's troony talk
        Believing gender does not define you is pretty much antithetical to transitioning.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ok, well, non binary stuff.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Not with defining personality, at least.

          Prove it with a twin study.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >People are not defined by their gender.
      That's troony talk.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      People in fact are defined their gender. There's more to it than that, but its a really big thing that always plays into everything else.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >People are not defined by their gender.
      Dilate troony.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, there has to be something cringier you can post. You're holding out on me. Will this help you? I don't think men are very smart

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What's your body count?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This is why I'm fighting against these patriarchal cultural norms

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Have you ever gift flowers to a man?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            NTA but I have.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You never had a woman gift u flowers? Womp womp

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I've never even received a compliment from a girl before

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The "romantic gestures" here are just showing off resources or skills. The same shit animals do. Look at me, my sperm is high quality, I want to put it in your hole, or someone else's, but you seem available at this moment.

        When you love someone you give them not a guitar riff or a diamond but support and emotional intimacy - the things women commonly and infamously fail to receive from their partners.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >When you love someone you give them not a guitar riff or a diamond but support and emotional intimacy - the things women commonly and infamously fail to receive from their partners
          Funny you say that because when a man do thay women will put you in the friendzone

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        1. A woman saved the last piece of their shared favorite dessert for her partner.
        2. A woman slipped a handwritten note into her partner's suitcase before a long trip.
        3. During a quiet evening walk, a woman intertwined her fingers with her partner's.
        4. A woman surprised her partner with tickets to the film they'd talked about wanting to see.
        5. As they strolled through the city, a woman gently rested her head on her partner's shoulder.
        6. A woman prepared a home-cooked meal featuring her partner's favorite dish.
        7. While out for coffee, a woman shared her pastry, breaking off the bigger half for her partner.
        8. A woman picked out a book she knew her partner would cherish and left it on their pillow.
        9. In the chill of the evening, a woman draped her scarf around her partner's neck.
        10. A woman arranged a spontaneous picnic in the park, complete with her partner's preferred wine.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >women acting as girlfriends and not as a friend girl=women are more romantic!!!

          Also all the shit you posted men already doing it x5 with their partners and such shit is barely considered as the minimun at a relationship. You have shit in your head.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Tell em you use Reddit without telling me you use Reddit you massive gay

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone in this thread got violently mad at you for speaking a basic fact of relationship dynamics. Half the people here would mald at Men are from Mars Women are from Venus if you worded it in this way.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Kys moron
        Women aren't capable of love

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Prove it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Given enough opportunities, a woman will leave you if she believes she can get another guy who is better than him. That's why, historically, men would keep women at home and keep them covered so that other men wouldn't go after her. Women quite literally have to be protected from their own nature.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Given enough opportunity man will cheat on his wife and blame it on their sex life not being up to his standard. I think we should start keeping men locked up inside so they can't be tempted.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's the woman's fault, though.
            It's not the man's fault that another man happens to be better than him.
            Even still, the man will typically stick with his wife and provide for her even if he 'cheats' on her.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's a man's fault for not being good enough just like it's woman's fault for the sex not being good enough. Just work harder.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's the man's fault, though.
            It's not the woman's fault that another woman happens to be better than her.
            Even still, the woman will typically stick with her husband even if she 'cheats' on him.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Fail
            It isn't hard for a woman to satisfy a man. She just has to try.
            On the other hand, a man can bust his ass for 80 hours a week, and on a dime a woman can decide she can do better. Men don't do this to women.
            And no, women do not stick with men they're cheating on unless they're gaining something from him (money, shelter) and will continue to leach for him unlike vice versa.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            leach from him*

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            In current day and age women need to bust their asses for 80 hours a week too. Men aren't special for doing the bare minimum anymore. You won't commonly find households where man is the only working adult these days. If the only thing women get from a man is splitting bills in half, and they need to put out in bed and maintain the house on top of that then that's a shit quality man and he can only blame himself for her leaving.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >In current day and age women need to bust their asses for 80 hours a week too.
            Kek
            >Men aren't special for doing the bare minimum anymore. You won't commonly find households where man is the only working adult these days.
            This is because women wanted so badly to be ""free"" from men, and thus doubled the workforce.
            Good job, women.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >This is because women wanted so badly to be ""free"" from men, and thus doubled the workforce
            Women got in the workforce only because men went to war. If we didn't have wars, this wouldn't have happened, and i assure you wars weren't started by women.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There were plenty of young men back then that they could have married. Less than 0.5% of the American population died in ww2.
            Its also entirely inapplicable, because labor force participation among married women increased, not single women.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Women were encouraged to work for the country and supply the war at the time. Still men's fault. I don't know how their status (married/single) changes this fact whatsoever.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Single women were already working at the time
            They were encouraging women whose husbands were out to war to work.
            This should have ended when the men came back.
            But instead, women had a temper tantrum and wanted to be ""free"" from men.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Men did that to themselves. Shouldn't have allowed this situation to begin with. You demand women to take responsibility, when responsibility is an innately masculine trait. You're part of the problem.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >WW2 is All mens faults okay!? We could have totally prevented it through peace and love bro
            Rope yourself

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It unironically is. Men are the ones who started it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Deflecting responsibility is feminine behaviour. Feminine men are part of the problem. Can't blame women for assuming masculine roles with men like this.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They should have gone back into the home after the war instead of crying about le men are le oppressive
            That's a choice they made. They weren't forced to continue working.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            And who allowed them to have a taste of it to begin with? Men should have done a better job at keeping women at home.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >NO WOMEN MUST NOT TAKE ANY RESPONSIBILITY WHATSOEVER

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. Responsibility is a masculine trait. You're demanding women to act in a masculine manner while crying about them taking on masculine roles. You either accept that women are beings as responsible as your average five year old and man up, or stop complaining about them taking on masculine roles when you yourself demand them to express masculine behaviour.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >NOOO YOU MUST NOT HOLD WOMEN ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE.... BECAUSE.....
            Why are you so desperate?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >put out in bed
            no.
            >maintain the house
            I can see someone is trying to irritate you and I understand you're frustrated. just remember you have value and you are important anon.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            At least she won't leave when the man gets cancer unlike men

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >515 patients
            Hardly conclusive of anything.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            And how do we know there weren’t other factors involved for these men leaving? Maybe these women were awful insufferable pieces of shit.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I often feel like my bf only loves me for my body
    Big boobs, right? This sounds mean but that sounds like more of a you problem.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I hate it when some moron posts such long pseudointelectual bullshit here. Bet he felt smart writing that.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He's not wrong, though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I was about to post that, good job anon

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And yet he failed to defend himself against several examples of female artists reaching levels similar to old masters, as much as he failed to acknowledge why we don't have historically acclaimed female masters.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >several examples of female artists reaching levels similar to old masters
        such as?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Can men feel love
      Sometimes. Traumatized men will struggle, which is many men.

      >men
      >less emotionally reactive
      stopped reading; opinion disregarded

      >Ah i see, so the physical presence of gender has >nothing to do with defining life.
      Not with defining personality, at least.
      >because thoughts do not originate within human >brain tissue. Right? They come from somewhere >beyond... beyond being defined. Like aliens.
      please seek medical help
      [...]
      >That's troony talk
      Believing gender does not define you is pretty much antithetical to transitioning.

      >Believing gender does not define you is pretty much antithetical to transitioning.
      Antithetical is not the word I would use here.

      https://i.imgur.com/jNCZ5BI.png

      Can men feel love, or is it just lust and craving sex that brings them into relationships? I often feel like my bf only loves me for my body and I've felt the same from other guys I have dated

      Also, please frick me Bryn. I need it so bad. I promise I'll be good. And I might even love you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's a lot of text to say "men are better because I am a man and I'm the more profound one obviously".

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >men have lower emotional reactivity
      ...

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Antidepressants, false flags

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Idk I know some pretty moronic men who couldn’t paint the sistine chapel either

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ah yes, in the words of Ronnie McNutt: "Well guys, I guess that's it and I need to pick myself up from this temporary issue with my life and get back on track."

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't this because men have a higher chance for obsession and IQ where as women are more in the middle of the bell curve? A guy being obsessed with making something seems more likely than just having more 'emotional depth'

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I often feel like my bf only loves me for my body and I've felt the same from other guys I have dated
    Sounds like a you-problem.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Its an advice board you moron

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I dated three women who I realized I was mostly with for lust. The only girl I ever felt “love” for was one of my classmates who was perfect in my eyes. I didn’t even want to sleep with her, I just wanted to spend as much time as I could in her presence

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I didn’t even want to sleep with her, I just wanted to spend as much time as I could in her presence
      iktf anon

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What would you tell me if I questioned if women were capable of love because I've seen them cheat so often?
    That's probably the answer to your question.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think so because I (a man) feel love for my gf of 7 years. BUTTTTTTT I also think good old testosterone really fricks with that too. Lust and all that.

    I will admit I have cheated on her multiple times but as hypocritical and bigoted as it might make me seem I still love her more than anything. Like I want to spend the rest of my life with her with kids and stuff. Hormones and a weak will are a bad combination. I know that if she found out about the cheating she would 100% leave me and I’d be suicidal gang over it.

    Tldr; yea capable of love but hormones and impulses can ruin it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Really hope she finds out, this isn't love, this is you not wanting to be alone and seeing her as your only chance at having a stable life in terms of family

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Bro I thought that at first but no. I still talk to the girls I cheated on her with and have a new one right now but they’re all like super into the idea of being in a relationship too.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you're a piece of shit dude

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Eh you may love her but clearly not that much, if you really loved her you wouldn't cheat - or would at least come clean about it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What would I gain from that exactly? Life isn’t a Disney movie bro. I pay all her bills, putting her through school and still treat her better than anyone else ever has. If I mess around when I’m gone for work trips idk what the problem is. She’s happy and I’m happy. Your little ethics really don’t matter at that point.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If it's not a problem then tell her and let her decide for herself how she feels about it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Again, why? What purpose would that serve? You’re conditioned by cartoons

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nta but if it really isn't that big of a deal then just tell her

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Again why. You still fail to list a reason besides your own moral compass.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I pay all her bills - therefore I get to cheat on her guilt-free.

          Lmfao, you are truly a piece of shit. And you have no morals. I don't know your 'gf' personally, but I can guess you emotionally frick with her all the time to mold her into being dependent on you. Kys you manipulative homosexual.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is that even love or her just fitting in with life goals and your sense of control

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao anon this has nothing to do with love. You're quite literally just mentally ill and in denial.
      I used to work as a therapist and I've met homosexuals like you all the time. You're like "omg I love her" while treating her like shit. One day she will find out and then you will end up kicked and alone indulging yourself in cheap hookers and alcohol until you finally rope yourself, doing us all a nice favor.

      Enjoy playing pretend while you can

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I used to work as a therapist
        Sure buddy
        >treating her like shit
        Reaching right there
        She’s happy, I’m happy. Where’s the issue. It’s just you white knighting on here lmao

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Are you saying that unlike women, men don't need perform a emotional investment to have sex?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It genuinely is women who are incapable of love. They can only love what you provide to them, mostly material but also emotions. They cant ever love a man for who they are.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly as a guy I am wondering the same thing. The point of love is to make us want to have sex anyway, nature created it for that purpose.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not in a relationship at the moment purely because I only want a loving relationship based on long-term partnership. Never had a lack of female attention, but I would rather be alone while I look for the right girl for me.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i dont wanna be that guy but toxic masculinity makes it difficult for some men to express themselves emotionally. if this is your bf do not judge him for it, its how we were raised. some men will learn to express themselves better as they age, some will not. my advice to you is to learn how to communicate better in relationships. it is always something that should continue to be worked on throughout the course of a relationship

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Men are not women

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Can men feel love, or is it just lust and craving sex that brings them into relationships?
    My girlfriend and I held hands for the first time on our 4th date. We kissed after 3 months and had sex for the first time after about 10 months. She made all the first moves, partially because I was shy and inexperienced with a love so real (which to be fair so was she) and partially because I was so enamored being around her, talking to her and enjoying her that something as carnal and raw as sex seemed like I wouldn't have been enjoying her as thoroughly.
    We've been together for over half a decade now, and while we've developed a hell of a sexual relationship it wouldn't mean half as much without the deep emotional connection we feel for one another. She's the light of my life.

    > I often feel like my bf only loves me for my body and I've felt the same from other guys I have dated

    He may feel that he best expresses his affection through physical intimacy, he may have a high sex drive, or he may be what you think he is, but the only way for you to know is by communicating how you feel and being honest.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone feel like it's the same foid posting the same bait everyday.

    The Op picrel is ALWAYS an animal picture usually a cat.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yep. Haven't you realized almost all threads on all boards are bait? The only place shit gets done is general threads, and, naturally, /tg/

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      if you actually pay attention, you'll realize the vast majority of the threads on this website are baits. especially on the most active boards

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm certain iron rule #6 is works if you swap sexes

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Of course. A man's love for his dog is vaster and deeper than is found within the majority of modern relationships.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If a man's job is to provide financial, emotional (to love, respect, care, be loyal and devoted) and physical security to a woman, at the same time support her beliefs and vote for her candidate.
    Then what is a woman's responsibility to a man?
    Western women don't even know how to cook, they don't want to clean the house or have kids.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      is that it? in the modern age, all men want is a woman who cooks and cleans? that's bullshit. what do men REALLY want? not OP but ive asked my boyfriend this question plenty of times, and he has told me most men just like seeing their woman be taken care of by them; the only thing we have to be in return is accepting of their love and to support them emotionally when things get shitty for them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >what do men REALLY want
        I want to see her flourish and be free to live a life she wants. To develop her passions, experience the new, gain skills, meet people, see places, to smile. I feed on it, and am filled with power when I get to see it again. But, it requires that she has those drives of her own - those are irreplaceable, and internal. There is a sort of mythical joy in life that men tend to presume emanates from women. In reality, cultivating those moments is challenging, but the fantasy of "what men want" is that she is a symbol of pleasure itself, I think.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I want a woman who will never lie to me, steal from me, or cheat on me. Everything else is negotiable, because that is a very high bar in Current Year

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >men just like seeing their woman be taken care of by them; the only thing we have to be in return is accepting of their love and to support them emotionally when things get shitty for them
        This is entirely true

        In a couple women love to be provided for and men love to provide
        Which is why the "I don't need no man" type of woman are so unattractive because then what the frick do we do. Perhaps not necessarily unattractive but if we lose a huge part of our appeal to women then we just give up on them. Which is why the average man usually doesn't go for wealthy and competent women because he understands he has nothing to offer
        But also the complete opposite ie the type of woman who act like they can't do the simplest task just so that the man does it for them are repulsive because they are seen as manipulative and disingenuous

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          are you for real? wouldn't men like being taken care of once in a while? I mean, personally, I've been a relationship for 5 years now and I'm starting to feel pretty guilty for not paying for meals or providing for my bf. like idk wouldn't you get burnt out?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            After 5 years you should pay too

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes it's nice to be taken care of in return
            but intimate sex generally does it
            what's important is to have the man understand his efforts are appreciated and you're not just expecting him to do the stuff he does "because he's the man" (especially in today's age where we redefine every gender roles but women still expect us to be the same)
            makes them feel like a machine otherwise

            the men who complain about women not paying are either trying to make a point about the unequal evolution of gender roles or they genuinely struggle with money and don't dare/are scared to ask for contribution
            if anything i think paying for stuff while knowing very well she could pay for herself is irritating because it removes some of our purpose. And it's frustrating because it feels like we are playing a charade where we pretend she needs us like that even though technically she doesn't but we need her to.
            but if he does it, let him do it, or ask him about it

            i was mainly trying to underline how men gauge their worth on how useful they are to their woman
            not everybody is the same though regardless of gender

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >in the modern age, all men want is a woman who cooks and cleans
        I mainly want her to be a good mother. Frick all that romance bullshit and disney fairytale crap, I can adapt and unless she's violently trying to hurt me I can deal with all the bullshit and games that your average modern woman will throw at me and I might even adapt enough to find solace and a semblance of peace inbetween all of it. But what she absolutely MUST be is a good mother for the only reason I would ever allow a woman into my life is to have kids. I care about my potential children more than about women and I find myself fantasizing about all the stuff I'd do with my kids than about how life would be with a gf.
        If she's not up to the standard that I would deem her a good mother she's out, I don't care about all that relationship shit and romance.
        Sadly, globohomosexual advices against motherhood and promotes promiscuity and social validation above anything, so the search will get tougher and tougher as time progresses.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You probably only date attractive prostitutes with high bodycounts. If you stopped loving men only for their bodies you could get some manlet dweeb virgin to dote on you.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I wasn't sexually selective= Are Men Capable of Love?

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Define love, I bet a male dog feels love when he smells a female in heat

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Speaking from personal experience, I as a man was incapable of love until I was in my mid 20s, every woman I dated before that was just a hole to me and at first I felt guilt telling them I loved them back but eventually I stopped caring and just said it to make them shut up and be happy, but I was completely unattached emotionally.
    after I was like 23 however something changed and I started being able to develop real emotional connections, after this I also started being able to view women as friends and not just a hole that takes more effort, but before this point every woman I was friends with I inevitably ended up sleeping with as that was the only reason I became their friend.
    In summary, if you're young, the odds aren't in your favor.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I am a 20 year old man. I could frick women from the gym who give me "frick me" eyes, or hoes from the club at 4 am but I don't. I don't want to sin, and I know casual sex won't fulfil me. I am waiting for a girl like me, a virgin waiting for the right one. Until that day I will do anything in my power to become as good as I can as her reward. That's all.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I am capable of loving mice who love maltes but not women sorry.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I did love my ex deeply, but when I found out she was unfaithful, I fricked anything that moved as emotional retaliation while still trying to piece together what we had.
    Men love like dogs, almost unconditionally, until you break boundaries or constantly step on their efforts.
    I cheated because the other girl actually called me hot and made me feel good by saying I have a big dick. The ex did that twice in 3 years while fricking behind my back.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I cheated because the other girl actually called me hot and made me feel good by saying I have a big dick. The ex did that twice in 3 years while fricking behind my back.
      I'm starting to think that a woman being anything less than adoring to you is a major warning sign that she's fricking other men

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Can men feel love
    Obviously it's not all or nothing, but I'd say the majority of men can, and the majority of women can't. It's why men are so often willing to compromise on looks if a girl connects with him well, while women tend to shove a dude aside and look for someone hotter if they think they can manage.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Women care less about looks than men

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Source: my mom said so
        Jokes aside, this was probably true like 50+ years ago when women weren't working and actually had legitimate reasons to care about things other than looks, but it's clearly not the case today.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >A new study out of the U.K. found men in their 20s care about looks four times more than women do.
          https://www.kxan.com/news/study-looks-or-personality-what-men-and-women-care-about-most-throughout-their-lifetime/

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yawn.
            >Of course I only care about personality. It's just a coincidence all of my bfs have been over 6' teehee

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So what's your source

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Most studies I've seen that don't rely on self-reported surveys show that women care just as much about looks as men, if not more. This one directly addresses the point I'm making about women lying more when asked this question. Basically men and women both care a lot, but men are honest about that while women aren't.
            https://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/eli-finkel/documents/EastwickFinkel2008_JPSP.pdf

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You are having what's known as a woman moment. Basically you are making shit up in your head and thinking that it's real. Stop that.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If a man has created this and never has any woman created anything that even remotely comes close, does that answer your question?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >No woman ever wrote an opera ever

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >an opera
        It's like calling Apollo 11 a short trip or Newton some guy

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Opera isn't something I'm knowledgeable about, but there are many women creating amazing art on other fields that I'm more familiar with. I don't know what your point is. This specific opera you're fond of being written by a man is supposed to prove women can't write good opera pieces or something?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >This specific opera you're fond of being written by a man is supposed to prove women can't write good opera pieces or something?
            This specific opera is considered as one if not the earliest work of modernity. It literally created an era.
            Name one woman who did the same.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think it might be difficult, as we are in one of the first periods in human history where women are allowed to publish their creations under their own name. Even in 20th century women were often unable to publish their own works and needed to rely on a man to do it for them. With a sample size of one incomplete century I don't believe it's reasonable to make the claim women can absolutely never create amazing works of art.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            My favourite painter was a cute girl but she only painted other cute girls and babies

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's cute ngl

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Men can feel love, but the ability is lost piece by piece each time a woman uses it like toilet paper

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Men feel love and want companionship but you also have to understand that men are touch starved. So yeah they really want to hold and touch you but it's how they show affection.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      honestly once you get it it gets boring quick. it's like, that was it.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I literally came on this board right now to make the same thread but for women, because it's been bothering me for a while.

    Can women love?
    I saw some study saying that while men are attracted by women who look like them, women do not show any particular attraction to similar phenotypes.
    Moreover, we all know evidently that women are attracted by all the subtle signs of a man's ability to provide (strength, height, skill, mental stability, ability to create wealth, etc) and I don't think it's controversial.

    So knowing that women's sexual selection do not display any genetic assortative mating, and only social assortative mating, the conclusion is that women's love is conditional.
    You may say men also love women conditionally (must be physically attractive and look like them) but there is a difference between conditions that are met by intrinsic qualities, and active qualities. A man must be actively manly (strength, skill), but a woman is passively feminine (genetics).

    So knowing that women can only love conditionally, are women capable of loving the way men can?
    What if you witnessed your boyfriend being visibly in a situation of inferiority to another man, getting beat up, being incapable of providing, needing help in some way, or being incapacitated in some way? Would you still love him the same?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'll also add that their love is based on the illusion that the man is manly enough.
      So it's a compromise, because the conditions by which they are attracted aren't inherent to the man, but I don't think they're conscious of it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Women can love unconditionally. Just because one study showed a tendency doesn't mean it's applicable to everyone.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You only attacked one part of my argument.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not attacking you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If you're saying "women can love unconditionally" you are attacking my argument which is explicitly saying they can't
            If you want to convince me you must refute every point

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Moreover,
    ah frick that's not how you use it

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yes, men can love. There are different types of love. Love of pets, love of siblings, love of friends, love or parents, love of pizza, these are all different forms of love.

    The love between man and woman, which you are talking about, is eros. the erotic love. And men do need sex from the woman to keep that love going. But they don't need it at first. Pining, yearning, wanting, desiring, needing... these emotions will start the fire of eros. But they won't keep it alive. The man needs to feel like he is also wanted by the woman for eros to live. He needs to feel like he is wanted, desired, and needed by the woman. This is accomplished through sex, and sexual gestures.

    Women oftentimes wonder if a man only wants them for their bodies, as if their body was a separate thing from who they are. But men often wonder if women only like them for what they do. If they are only liked for their accomplishments or if they're only liked for the services they provide for the woman. A man is not scared that a woman likes his body. If anything its a relief, because he feels like its the only thing he really owns, and all those other things have the possibility to fade at any time.

    there is a joke going around by Chris Tucker, that a man is only loved under the condition that he provides something. and he can never really be wanted or desired for who he is. Its a genuine fear men have. And that fear is allayed, temporarily, when you have sex with him. Eager sex, that is.

    Can they love? yes. But they need sex to do it.

    If you're wondering about the men that are willing to wait until marriage, they're trusting the woman will provide all the sex they need after the marriage and are putting it off to better help the woman understand they aren't going to leave her once they get what they want and that they are truly committed. They still want sex. a lot of it. They just believe in delayed gratification.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Women see men the way men see jobs. Yes, men can feel love. They feel romantic love much more powerfully than women could ever dream. Women, however, feel parental love more powerfully than men could ever dream. It doesn't mean either one is incapable of the other, they just specialize in different forms of love.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And to add, you say

      https://i.imgur.com/jNCZ5BI.png

      Can men feel love, or is it just lust and craving sex that brings them into relationships? I often feel like my bf only loves me for my body and I've felt the same from other guys I have dated

      >my bf only loves me for my body
      He loves that body more than he's ever loved anything. The attention he gets from that body is something he is legitimately willing to kill for. Can you tell us what you offer other than sex? Does it even matter until you are on track to have his children?

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Women are only attracted in a man's ability to provide and you're gonna say shit like that?
    Women cannot love a man for who he is, only what he is. And if the illusion of his manliness is broken, she'll go for another man, because she was only attracted by what he could emotionally and physically give to her.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Meanwhile men "love" women for their pussy

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You don't understand.

        Men care more about women's body than the opposite, it's true. Because that's all of woman, and a man wants all of her.
        You're wrong in assuming there is a distinction between the self and the body. Men don't want just the body, they want the self, which includes the body. And what else does she have to offer him but herself? Why do women think it is insulting that men want all of them?

        No. If men only cared for the body, they would never settle down with any woman and go through all the length they do to make her happy. They would only go to tinder prostitutes.

        On the opposite, women don't care about men's body. They care about what he can do for them. And they can't choose tinder manprostitutes, because all that gives is short term. Emotional and physical provision can only exist long term.

        I've proven to you that men can love women and that their obsession with a woman's body is only proof of their love, now prove to me that women can love men similarily, unconditionally.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And you love "women" only for their bussy

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Meanwhile chad "love" women for their pussy

        Fixed you idiot

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do you ever love and hate a man or a women in same time?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      explain

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's be like
        "Yea, I love her, but she keeps calling me moron what the frick is wrong with her+ she smoking. But I still love her"

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i can't even fathom it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So... To be honest, I feel uncomfortable now.
            It's hard to hug her. Do you love hugging?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I was never hugged in my entire life mate

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Correct, Men are not capable of romantic or platonic love towards women. It's all about the lust and infatuation

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      kys

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You will realize the truth, sooner or later

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I am a man, I know myself, you don't fricking know me

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, men cope by saying they really do care but deep down we're no better than animals and will leave if we don't have enough sex. Love isn't real, we default to unfeeling robots once our balls are clipped.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you've never loved anyone you dumb homosexual

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is it worth it getting a bf as a thirty something virgin woman with no sex drive and no experience ever going out with a dude

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      men don't care about experience, they value the lack of it
      only sex obsessed men with new girlfriends every 6 months care about experience

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Remember nobody will buy your cow(give you a wedding ring) if you gift the milk(sex before marriage)

        If you're a decent woman, who can treat her man with reciprocating respect (I'd never tell you to be with a man who isn't returning, or giving you respect, as well), there are scores of men that will happily date you. They will not give a shit that you're a virgin. For many of them it will even be a major tick in the pro column.
        So basically, as long as you're a good person, and you don't throw off crazy spinster vibes, you'll be fine. Oh, and when I say "good person" I mean a good person. Not that fake shit where women act like they're friendly and generous but are actually selfish b***hes in private. So yeah, I guess I'd add sincerity to that list, too.

        People here are so out of touch it's not even funny. Any healthy man will be weirded out by a single 30+ year old virgin woman. Yeah, some basement dwelling incel who never held a woman's hand in his life before might think it's attractive because le virginity good but any normal man will think why tf is she a lone loser at her age.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It would take too long to properly explain it, and you'd reject it anyway. But you're wrong.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >You're wrong because.... I say so!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No, he's wrong because he doesn't know what he's talking about. But you're a bunch of terminally online hermits and virgins, so of course you're not going to understand.

            He's not.

            He is.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            He's not.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          nah

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I know that you are woman therefore i know you have shit in your head so that's why i must remind you this:

          What is attractive for women IS NOT ATTRACTIVE FOR MEN and viceversa.

          A virgin woman IS ATTRACTIVE FOR MEN. Totally opposite for women

          A man with high body count IS ATTRACTIVE FOR WOMEN. Totally opposite for men.

          A rich man and with status IS ATTRACTIVE FOR WOMEN. Totally opposite for men. That's why men don't give a frick if a potential partner has a Phd or millions.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            i largely agree agree but not everyone is the same.
            I've met men who literally avoided women with low experience because they feel the sex would be bad.
            generally these men aren't into long term relationship and it is evident by the fact this is somehow a criteria for how much they want a woman
            i think if the less dicks a woman took is a deal breaker, that's not normal, but there's no use arguing with these people

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Again: in this context we are talking about women for MARRIAGE and a serious relationship, not women for pump and dump(Your sex life with chad)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            i wasn't the original anon and i agreed with you

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm a man. Go outside.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Post your hand with timestamp

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >. Any healthy man will be weirded out by a single 30+ year old virgin woman.
          For men who aren't primarily dating for sex (and there are a lot of those, but I'd hardly call it 'healthy' to prioritize sex) then the ONLY thing that will concern them is why she's that way. And that would generally be apparent well before it's discovered that she's a virgin. The virginity itself is not a negative, and for any conceivable issue that it could signify, it's less bad than the alternative of having the issue and not being a virgin.

          Severe mental illness? These are almost all associated with more pleasure-seeking and impulsive behavior, not less--so someone who hasn't slept around is probably handling it better than one who has/does. The only possible exception being crippling anxiety, which again would be obvious well before it got to the point of a relationship.
          Insanely high standards? Not only is it unlikely for her to be interested in any guy in the first place, but her NOT sleeping with guys who don't meet them is far less insulting to men than a string of hookups with shit-tier men. What man wants to be told to wait for a woman who doesn't?

          It's dumb for men to go out and have sex for the sake of having sex, as if virginity is something to be ashamed of, or that it would somehow paint over any issues with one's character. No different for women. A woman having a one-night stand out of insecurity at being 'inexperienced' is changing nothing about herself and just demonstrating exceedingly poor judgement.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I think so too. A religious guy who wants a virgin woman will be already married younger

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Not as young as you'd think for most groups, especially those which actually interact with the world (i.e. aren't the Amish).
            The median age of marriage for women has almost never gone below 20 in the West, for the past 700 years of records. In some cases, it could get as high as the late 20s, like in towns and during economic depressions. These are times which encompass periods of much stricter norms than are typical today, and which are closer to what you'd expect from the strongly religious.

            True, most religious men (and this is NOT synonymous with "men who don't want sex outside of marriage") will get married earlier than the population average, but it's not unusual for someone to not find a good match all that fast.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Remember nobody will buy your cow(give you a wedding ring) if you gift the milk(sex before marriage)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you're a decent woman, who can treat her man with reciprocating respect (I'd never tell you to be with a man who isn't returning, or giving you respect, as well), there are scores of men that will happily date you. They will not give a shit that you're a virgin. For many of them it will even be a major tick in the pro column.
      So basically, as long as you're a good person, and you don't throw off crazy spinster vibes, you'll be fine. Oh, and when I say "good person" I mean a good person. Not that fake shit where women act like they're friendly and generous but are actually selfish b***hes in private. So yeah, I guess I'd add sincerity to that list, too.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Have you considered that this has more something to do with the kinds of guys you are attracted to and less with what men are generally like?

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It that how you should hold a rat?

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My gf sometimes expresses a similar feeling and it's frustrating because if I was only interested in sex I wouldn't have a gf id have a fwb. I'm 6'4 and fit so getting casual sex is trivial for me. I can't tell her this of course.

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly that's a good question. I think if you can have pure romantic love without any physical intimacy then yes.

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why do women doubt that I love them just because I want to touch their body all the time?

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    we are capable of love, just not of loving women, for women are incapable of deserving to be loved.

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone else find it so funny that women question "can men love" when I honestly see more love displayed by men than ever by women. I have found in my life that women only seem to love in the superficial, the love a certain make up color or a favorite flower or dress or some shit, a best friend. But men can deeply love so many aspects of life or their loved ones (friends and family or even pets, etc) and think about weird topics that would seem probably insane to a woman to even ponder about while they think about it for years.

    Idk, maybe I'm talking crazy here. I'm not saying "all women" or "all men" I'm saying it's probably like a 75/25 men/women for who is able to love more deeply and intensely.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    None of the women I loved ever truly loved me. They loved the money I wasted on their vanity and my big dick and that’s literally it. And yet all I hear from your species is how evil men are and how they only want sex. Sounds like projection honestly.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      All i hear from male species is how much women want chad wiener. Sounds like projection honestly.

      And how do we know there weren’t other factors involved for these men leaving? Maybe these women were awful insufferable pieces of shit.

      It's funny how men will look deep into research that puts them in bad light, but will quote research like that one paper proving increased divorce rates when a woman starts earning more than a man, despite the methodology of these also only considering numbers and not other factors such as the men being insufferable pieces of shit in that scenario.

      Remember nobody will buy your cow(give you a wedding ring) if you gift the milk(sex before marriage)

      A lot of people get married after years of premarital sex though.

      Yes, but not only is it not permissable for men to show any of their emotions (apart from lust, joy and rage) and by that progress of suppression those who have practiced it all their life are indistinguishable from those who are emotionally atrophied.

      men are not born emotionally stunted, but women stunt them and then wonder why people are irrationally aggressive, isolated and sad.

      I feel like that's also an issue with men being unwilling to make the effort to re-learn emotional vulnerability (and I'm not saying this is their fault because it's a complex issue, but like with any issue only you can help yourself). Let's say I encourage my boyfriend to show his emotions and I would not break up with a man because I've seen him cry. If he still refuses to make the effort to learn how to be emotionally vulnerable despite years of reassurance on my end then there's only so much I can do.

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Most young guys do not really understand 'love' these days

    But I also noticed most young women dont understand love at all either

    Both just want to gain something. I feel sorry for you kids living in this soul-trap hell. These truly are the final days.

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes but women can't

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I often feel like my bf only loves me for my body and I've felt the same from other guys I have dated
    Sounds like you're the one not capable of love

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Can men feel love
    Yes, absolutely. Potentially in a way and at an intensity that you couldn't even imagine.
    >or is it just lust and craving sex that brings them into relationships?
    No, but it can often be the case. Which we will dive into shortly.
    >I often feel like my bf only loves me for my body and I've felt the same from other guys I have dated
    Okay, this is where it gets uncomfortable.
    Even if it hasn't happened to them specifically, every man has at least seen one of their friends do this: Some guy who could only think of nothing but poon all day, will suddenly drop his tail-chasing ways because he's met some woman he's completely done his nuts over. Men are hardwired to be poon hounds in the same way that a car is built for driving, and love will still stop them from doing it pretty much instantly. That is how powerful love can be for a man.
    However, the unfortunate fact is that most women just aren't worth that level of commitment and focus. And there's a decent chance that you're probably one of those women.
    The reason some women find that men only ever seem to want them for their bodies, is because for nearly all of those women (but not all), their body is the only thing of value that they can offer to a man. They pushy, selfish, demanding, expect everything to be done for them, have little-to-no conversational skills, and just simply aren't fun to be around. But if they're good looking, which most women are to some extent, then that quickly becomes their only worthwhile characteristic.
    I realise this is pretty harsh, and it gives me no joy whatsoever to say it. But there are women out there who aren't like that at all. They have a myriad of quality personality traits, they're engaging, interesting, even fun. Men recognise those qualities in those women instantly, and those are the women they want to start relationships and marriages with. But men also know that those women are few and far between.

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, but not only is it not permissable for men to show any of their emotions (apart from lust, joy and rage) and by that progress of suppression those who have practiced it all their life are indistinguishable from those who are emotionally atrophied.

    men are not born emotionally stunted, but women stunt them and then wonder why people are irrationally aggressive, isolated and sad.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's the opposite, dumbass.
      Men are not allowed to show their emotions when they are uncomfortable for women (lust, joy, and rage). They're only allowed to express emotions that give women more control (submissiveness, sadness, indifference).

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Men just have very high sex drives.
    Men are so capable of love that I often hear them ask if women are too, much more often than the reverse. I often question it myself.

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ask a man that, if one of either he or his partner had to die, which he would pick. Then ask a woman the same question.
    Most men will sacrifice themselves. Most women will sacrifice their man.
    Yes, men can feel love.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Most men will sacrifice themselves. Most women will sacrifice their man.
      You saw that video, too, eh?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Most men will sacrifice themselves. Most women will sacrifice their man.
      Source: trust me bro

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Date vegan men

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    FRICK, I WANT A BOYFRIEND SO BAD

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What do you believe is holding you back?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No man meets her standards.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It wouldn't surprise me. But I'd like to get her response. Not that I think I'm going to.

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You only love him for the sense of security he gives you. You are no different, try looking in a mirror

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, I have to force myself to think about her sexually, even though she is completely my type

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Well I felt love with my oneitis, but after the breakup I'm more interested in sexo. Love us such a meme

  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    nice thread everyone

  60. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you literally just straight up said youre both in it for the sex you stupid fricking b***h holy shit youre dumb

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      nice reading comprehension

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i understand the question and im not addressing it because shes an actual moron that doesnt deserve to be spoonfed

  61. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No.
    The End

  62. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes we can feel love.
    Think about what you are willing to offer your boyfriend in your relationship. Everyone does have different sex drives, but sex is also extremely stimulating in comparison with other activities. So consider that you might not have game in order to make him participate as passionately as you would like in other romantic activities like flirting, dressing his best, being fun in other ways. Once you have someone who you find attractive, and you can see yourself with them in the future with the combined stability you both bring, try talking to him about values and what each other wants. Be honest, or else there is no reason for him to be honest. What do you as a woman want from him. What does he want as a man.

  63. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

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