Are women aware of romantic friends?

I've seen in my life a lot of the time a women would have a close guy friend/best friend in which they over time develop and confess feelings for this person. Now typically they are rejected but the thing that freaks me out is that all the women I've interacted with keep them as friends. That means she keeps all these men who are romantically interested in her and have made it clear they are, but she wants to be friends with them, so instead of cutting things off women are ok with romanitc friends? It seems so weird to me and especially since lot's of women complain about this problem but wouldn't keeping around those people make it harder. I used to feel bad when it happens but the more I see it happen the more I wonder why they don't cut them off?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >women are ok with romanitc friends?
    Yes
    > I wonder why they don't cut them off?
    Why would you? Friend is better than no friend, especially when they do stuff for you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well isn't that manipulative? They aren't a friend if they want to be in relationship with you I feel, the crave for something deeper whether it be in a physical or emotional sense. If you keep them around strictly for the benefit they provide rather than the qualities that you enjoy to be around, isn't that manipulative?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes
        And?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I mean it kinda makes sense but to me it just seems like they have no empathy because of that. Like from what people are saying they don't have the capability to see what's wrong or how a man's emotion might come into play, doesn't that mean they're not empathetic?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the thing that freaks me out is that all the women I've interacted with keep them as friends
        a.k.a. to keep them on a leash just in case she don't find anything better when she loses sex value. To reject friendship from the woman that rejected you romantically is for self-respecting men and that's taught and practiced, and you'll not have it if it was never taught to you.

        >isn't that manipulative?
        People are scum. Good, honest people are the exception, not the rule. Women are scummy in womanly ways. Get used to it.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Look kid. The world is built for autistics who moralize every last thing. Notice, modify perception, move on.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No such as a "female friend" if you are a guy who wants to have sex with women. Women want the benefit of having "boyfriend energy" without giving any sexual access to the guy (if she is not into him sexually). Most guys are beta loser simps so he will give her all sort of benefits (free attention, gifts, help, emotional support, all that gay shit) basically relegated to "orbiter" status. Women have a LOT of power over weak men (common & easy to find), but STRONG men (who are rare and few in the world) have all the leverage when it comes to women. Strong guys with money, height, confidence, and good looks will have HAREMS of women on his dick, wanting his time, attention, and sex, while the weaker guys just stay as non-sexual "friends" with that one girl he can't really get but wants desperately to be with.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't read

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well I'm more asking that why don't women see this as wrong? I had once in my life a female friend that had ulterior motives to wanting a relationship with me. It made me feel disgusted how she could present herself as a friend but feel ok to touch me and try to be with me romantically because we were acquainted. I quickly stopped talking to them but do women just view this as a normal thing and that it's fine to keep them around? It just doesn't seem ethically correct or am I wrong?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They don't care. Women are famously devoid of ethical constraints.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. Pretty much it. But what are you going to do in your beta status? Cry like a little poppy pants baby on NSFFW, or embrace your genetics and try your very best to frick pussy? Your choice.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Allow me to explain.
    Women are perfectly capable of being turned down romantically, develop no hard feelings, and keep whatever platonic thing they had before.
    They naturally assume it's exactly the same for men. It is not, but they think that because they said "no" to romantic relationship, the man will move on from his feelings and continue platonic friendship with them without any romantic ideas - just like they would. It's not "keeping options open"(it does happen but it's nowhere near as common as NSFFW would like you to believe), they genuinely don't see an issue with going back to platonic after one person caught feelings and got rejected.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's insane to me, so quite literally women have a completely different way of thinking compared to men, even the way they handle their developed romantic feelings?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        So i would imagine. My ex asked me if i wantes to hang out and get a coffee some day. When i replied "sorry but were done and im fairly certain its not working out" she totally lost it and went on tangent how she just wanted to meet and talk as "friends"
        I dont know how women think but its definetly how i think. For what reason would i EVER want to see her again if it wasnt for trying to patch things up? Completely ludacris.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty much. It's for multiple reasons, both societal and evolutionary, i.e. needing to be on good terms with the people around them for protection, as well as being taught to be more forgiving and less spiteful than men.

        So i would imagine. My ex asked me if i wantes to hang out and get a coffee some day. When i replied "sorry but were done and im fairly certain its not working out" she totally lost it and went on tangent how she just wanted to meet and talk as "friends"
        I dont know how women think but its definetly how i think. For what reason would i EVER want to see her again if it wasnt for trying to patch things up? Completely ludacris.

        She probably appreciated you as a person regardless of the break-up. As I said, she has most likely moved on from these feelings, but cared for you enough on a platonic level still to reach out in a friendly manner. Women don't quite get the way break-ups and rejection hit men different.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Isn't that still concerning? At least in my life I have gone from being a volcel and hating women, to now no longer a volcel and actually feeling bad for women for what they have to go through. But after seeing these responses essentially saying woman just straight up think differently it makes me less empathetic to them. And looking at that first response to the post, it seems like they also keep them around for the benefit they provide. So were incels actually right all along? Sorry if it sounds jumbled because I'm getting a little panicky right now.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're misunderstanding the point here. It's not that women are sociopaths who are unaffected by breakups or rejection. They are simply better equipped to move on from that. You could say their emotional reaction to it is condensed to a shorter time period but more intense as a result. That's why women seem very dramatic at times. They have easier time letting go, and are less affected long term, but also have a stronger short-term reaction, whereas men will usually not react strongly in the moment but get hung up on the thing that happened for a long time. And this is also a generalisation because either gender can react both ways depending on other factors.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ok I think I understand. So in situations in which a man is rejected by woman, but the keep on being friends, and the man never truly loses feelings for the woman, is the man in the wrong for sticking around or is the women in the wrong for intentionally keeping him around?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >is the man in the wrong for sticking around or is the women in the wrong for intentionally keeping him around?
            nobody is in the wrong but in my experience, the man will have a bad time from trying to be platonic.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the man will have a bad time from trying to be platonic.
            genuinely curious, why is this?
            femanon btw

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            recent example: I was getting mixed signals from her and it was driving me crazy but i hinted a few times that she was giving me mixed signals but she brushed it off or didnt really acknowledge it, eventually I confronted her and told her I wanted space because I couldn't keep it platonic. we had dated for a couple of months before but ended it on good terms. maybe other factors such my job and general life situation put me in a worse headspace than usual? 1 thing i know is that if saw her posting pics with a different guy i would have completely broken down to pieces. as others have said maybe males just take longer to move on

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            ah. see the reason i asked is because i attempted being platonic with a guy who really liked me and couldn't get why he was so despondent. Mostly because we'd only known each other for a few months at that point, it was the pandemic, and we're total strangers, he lived in another country really far away from me, so i didn't want to set up false expectations since that didn't sound healthy for any basic internet relationship, let alone a normal relationship, but I didn't understand why the idea of a platonic relationship upset him so much.
            I don't think I was ever told of this different way of seeing things growing up and I've been officially diagnosed autistic (with an actual psychiatrist) so maybe the adults just didn't know how to explain it to me? Especially since I never got into it?
            But seeing it in this light starts to make it make sense.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            uhh i dont think that normal from his side either but maybe thats because i am never into online/long-distance relationships.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            it was a close internet relationship, it was almost every day since he was motivated to help me with a particular project at the time after i posted on social media at the time, but still an internet relationship because of the literal sea between our physical locations. we'd otherwise not known one another before that point.

            whether that sounds normal to you i don't know, but it didn't sound abnormal to me back then.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            In my experience as I've already written in the post I've seen guys be hurt whenever they're original love interest gets with another man, for me at least I know that would destroy me since that's essentially the women telling me I wasn't good enough to even date but this other guy is better.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      im a real woman and this is a lie. No woman in okay with getting rejected and they usually distances themselves from a guy when that shit happens

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not saying they're ok being rejected but from what I've seen they're usually fine remaining platonic after. As I stated, it's generalisation, and doesn't apply to everyone but it's a common trend.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It's not "keeping options open"(it does happen but it's nowhere near as common as NSFFW would like you to believe), they genuinely don't see an issue with going back to platonic after one person caught feelings and got rejected.
      i told her i need space because i couldnt keep it platonic and she was cool with it.

      im a real woman and this is a lie. No woman in okay with getting rejected and they usually distances themselves from a guy when that shit happens

      i wont generalize but this has happened to me twice so maybe its more common than you think or i ended up getting short end of the stick

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not saying they're ok being rejected but from what I've seen they're usually fine remaining platonic after. As I stated, it's generalisation, and doesn't apply to everyone but it's a common trend.

        even though us women pretend to "forget" about the guys crush on us and we seem to be fine with being friends, we are constantly aware that guys like us, and yeah, theyre kinda using you
        if that shit happens to you, dont go cold turkey on her if you dont want to, but definitely keep your distance
        if you wanna test my theory, try give much more attention to some other girl in front of her and see how quickly she gets pissed off
        the only exemple I know of a girl truly being seriours about being friends with beta orbiters was a pretty girl with mommy issues who had a literal squad of geeks and loser whom she called "family", some of them confessed to her, sometimes they would even make sexual jokes about her, she was too innocent tho and she wouldnt take them too heart
        also, she would help and support them, pretty much babbysitting them around
        shit was kind fricking weird

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I am a woman and it is definitely not for the purpose of "using" guys in my case. I am aware there might be lingering feelings now, but for the most part I assumed men work like women and move on after a rejection, capable of forming a platonic relationship afterwards as women are. And even though I'm aware of that not being the cause, I do not keep them around afterwards as "backup" or whatever purpose you think they might serve. I keep them around because they're people I like and possibly care about, even if it's not in a romantic way. I wouldn't care if any of them found another girlfriend, in fact i have helped out a few of my old admirers when they were hitting on someone else. Most women aren't so insecure that they would get upset because a guy they rejected moves on. What you're describing sounds like a BPD case.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            well, I feel like our interaction answears op's question pretty well:
            When they keep a guy around after a confession, there are 2 types of women: the ones who are aware that theyre doing a bad thing (and do it anyway) and the ones who dont (even tho I do believe that deep down these girls know that is an immoral thing to do, but they do it out of convenience).
            Im also a bit weirded out by how some women are okay with this, even on the surface level. Like, you do know that in order to get over a person you need to distance yourself for a while, cut the contact to a minimum. How do think the guys are going to get over you if you keep meeting up with them and shit like that?
            >Most women aren't so insecure that they would get upset because a guy they rejected moves on
            If you were to hang out with your group and one of your "admirers" brought his girlfriend and he would talk to her all night, and give you little to no attention, wouldnt you be a bit pissed, maybe a little bit jealous?
            And now imagine the opposite, if a female friend brough her boyfriend and she would barely talk to you all night, would you be mad or would you be like "Iet her have some fun"?
            But I do gotta cut you some slack and say that the difference between the first type of women and the second one is experience and self awareness. Some young women are naive enough to believe theyre not hurting the guy by keeping him around. But be aware that even tho youre intentions may be good, you do make it harder for the guys

    • 2 months ago
      MKG

      If both people are capable of being actual friends, it is fine. One person wants more but both accept it isn't going to happen.
      In these cases, they aren't "romantic friends", they are friends.

      What is often the case is one, usually the guy, will still pine and hope one day she will change her mind. He's waiting in the wings and she's tolerating it.

      There's also the thing where the girl does NOT know how to be friends with a guy and basically treats him like a sexless neutered bf and he goes along with it, pretty much the definition of a "simp orbiter". Often, these girls aren't intentionally being manipulative, they just expect guys to do them favors because many will in hopes of eventual sex.

      A real female friend will give as good as she gets and not expect her buddy to act like a bf. The example I use is the friend I had who asked me to help her move and bought me pizza and beer, because her vegana wasn't a potential reward.
      That's a friend.

      >They naturally assume it's exactly the same for men. It is not, but they think that because they said "no" to romantic relationship, the man will move on from his feelings and continue platonic friendship with them without any romantic ideas - just like they would.
      This is correct.

      im a real woman and this is a lie. No woman in okay with getting rejected and they usually distances themselves from a guy when that shit happens

      >lie. No woman in okay with getting rejected and they usually distances themselves from a guy when that shit happens
      Fair point. I've never seen a woman take rejection well, except one who was actively bawdting.

      But what about when there's no actual rejection but he's just not interested or there's zero chemistry? I've seen that play out repeatedly.

      >the man will have a bad time from trying to be platonic.
      genuinely curious, why is this?
      femanon btw

      >why is this?
      In my experience, the guy is coping with rejection by deluding himself that she will eventually change her mind. Pic related.

      ah. see the reason i asked is because i attempted being platonic with a guy who really liked me and couldn't get why he was so despondent. Mostly because we'd only known each other for a few months at that point, it was the pandemic, and we're total strangers, he lived in another country really far away from me, so i didn't want to set up false expectations since that didn't sound healthy for any basic internet relationship, let alone a normal relationship, but I didn't understand why the idea of a platonic relationship upset him so much.
      I don't think I was ever told of this different way of seeing things growing up and I've been officially diagnosed autistic (with an actual psychiatrist) so maybe the adults just didn't know how to explain it to me? Especially since I never got into it?
      But seeing it in this light starts to make it make sense.

      Another factor is that if you are platonic with a girl you like, you have to choke on the pain as you watch her date others.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't want to generalize but essentially in the end, it's the guys fault for sticking around expecting for things to change. Since the girl doesn't have the responsibilty to deal with those feelings, it's up for the guy to move on. In that case how does one move on? Again in my personal experience to this day I've met someone in which a relatonship didn't work out, but over time our friendship split apart but I was always scared they would ask someone else out. Not that I would date them if they asked me instead, more like I was scared to finally be shown a person that was selected over me. How do I get over those feelings for future endeavors? Also to note I have a hard time having romantic relations with people, both emotionally and physically, without being heavily emotionally invested in them.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    romantic feelings fade over time

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    maybe

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The answer is simple, she loves what the guy does for her and that he cares, she loves the attention, she just isn't attracted to him to consider giving him a chance.

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