Better ways to destress besides sex?

> stressed
> sex makes stress go away
> GF doesn't want to have sex. Feels objectified.
> Masturbation makes me feel lonely, builds up a reliance on porno, is unsatisfying.

What do?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    She's so hot

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

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      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        She's so hot

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  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe talking to her would ease these issues. Explain what intimacy means to you, how it's a sign of love to you and how you're hurt by your girl not willing to be intimate with you anymore

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I did that but we keep hitting roadblocks. She says she feels objectified and like a tool. Only wants to have sex when its "because of love" (i.e after a date, or if i plan a night out, etc). More than happy to do that but.. tired and sometimes all a guy needs is for his SO to bang him. I dunno, feel like a horrible person for even requesting/ feeling that way

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You must pay for things and then you can root me…. So just like a hooker….. and this doesnt make you feel objectified. Meanwhile man is thinking:
        I dont root anyone else
        I go to work and pay the bills and try to work out a future for us
        Try to work out ways to make relationship better
        Somehow this isnt enough love

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/ag4psyc.jpg

        > stressed
        > sex makes stress go away
        > GF doesn't want to have sex. Feels objectified.
        > Masturbation makes me feel lonely, builds up a reliance on porno, is unsatisfying.

        What do?

        Why don’t you go date a woman who is actually sexually attracted to you? This prostitute is using you, moron.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ditch the girl, she's not someone you want to be spending your life on!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        see

        ditch the girl, she's not someone you want to be spending your life on!

        >Only wants to have sex when its "because of love" (i.e after a date, or if i plan a night out, etc).
        That's not "love", that's a transaction. When either me or my gf are in the mood, we have sex. I could walk up to her right now and say
        >you're gorgeous and i want to frick you right now
        and she'd happily come to bed with me. What you're describing is your gf saying that if you want something from her (sex) then you need to give her something first (a date, a night out). That's prostitution, not love, and it sounds like your gf is a prostitute who doesn't want to frick unless she gets paid to do it.

        I've been in my fair share of polyamorous relationships. Something about me tells my taken friends "get him in".
        Before, I thought women were genuinely just shitty sexual partners. However, every single time without fail, it ends up being the man's inability to turn their partner on. They don't even try. They just say "can we frick" and if she agrees, there's zero foreplay and just sex. If the girl is lucky enough to get any foreplay, it's a rushed 30 seconds of it with the sole intent of getting to penetration.
        I'm not saying it applies to you, but if sex makes her feel objectified, maybe try approaching sex in a non-objectifying manner. Touch her without the intent of sex. Try to "rizz" her up, because just because shes your partner doesn't mean you get a free pass to not have game.
        If she genuinely is just shitty sexually though, this is a massive incompatibility that needs to be addressed.

        >However, every single time without fail, it ends up being the man's inability to turn their partner on. They don't even try. They just say "can we frick" and if she agrees, there's zero foreplay and just sex.
        This cuck in particular has absolutely no clue. For 99.99% of the existence of the human race, sex for women was
        >this man grabbed me and is now shoving his dick in me
        There's a reason why rape is by far the most common female sexual fantasy. If you go up to your girl and meekly ask for sex then no, that's not going to get her in the mood. On the other hand, if you make it clear that she specifically has gotten you so turned on that you need to have her right now and you're not taking no for an answer, she'll absolutely love it.

        By all means, have times where you spend an hour on foreplay but for average daily sex, you should be able to just frick her whenever and wherever you want and if she refuses this dynamic, trade her in for a girl who doesn't because the world is full of them. The absolute last person you want to take advice from is a guy who has
        >been in my fair share of polyamorous relationships
        because this is basically admitting that he only fricks weird fat girls who can't experience normal sexual attraction anyway because their hormone levels are fricked up from their obesity.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          sorry you're traumatized. I promise it's not too late to gain the ability to have a real non-abusive relationship if you seek help now.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Imagine being such a loser that you can't imagine a healthy relationship based around the most basic and natural male/female sexual dynamic. Do you really think it's a coincidence that the vast majority of women are sexually pure submissives? Women enjoy being desired, they enjoy pleasing dominant men, they enjoy being "taken", especially if it's in the context of a safe and loving relationship. I'm sorry that you're on some weird feminist shit where sex is abuse but that's really not how it works. I have multiple ex-gfs who call me up specifically so that I can come over and frick them (with zero foreplay, mind) because they're stuck dating guys like you who think that you need to spend all night taking her out to dinner and kissing her feet to "get her in the mood".

            Women are just as capable of desiring and enjoying spontaneous, quick sex as men are and the only way in which they differ is that female arousal is more mental than physical. And as I already said, the most common and basic thing that turns women on is feeling like a man desires them so much that he's overcome with lust and can't hold back from just slamming his dick into them as fast as he can. Please, take a couple hours some day and look up some popular "romance" novels and flip through them. You know what you'll find in the majority of smut aimed at a female audience? Lots of women being submissive to the desires of strong, dominant men.

            The only difficult part is that this dynamic will not work unless you're a strong, dominant man, so I can understand why it seems impossible to someone like you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > cant imagine a healthy relationship
            > sex is abuse
            > im a very sexually in-demand man so im right
            > getting girls in the mood is dumb

            I think you're just a rapist and found girls that have a rape kink. You're also doing your absolute best to make up for your dog shit arguments by convincing yourself of as many false assumptions about me as possible.

            Keep convincing yourself you don't need foreplay. I'm sure you have plenty of healthy intimate relationships.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >sex is abuse
            You're the one who said that sex is abuse, not me.

            >getting girls in the mood is dumb
            And now you're just being disingenuous but I guess being a sneaky liar is just what comes naturally to guys like you. I never said that you shouldn't get your girl in the mood. I said that getting her in the mood should not and does not require lengthy foreplay. For the vast majority of women, expressing your desire and letting her know that she's about to get fricked is in itself enough to get them "in the mood".

            >I think you're just a rapist and found girls that have a rape kink.
            Literally all women have a "rape kink". And nothing I'm describing has anything to do with rape, regardless. I've mentioned the fact that rape has been extremely commonplace for the vast majority of human existence to provide an explanation for why women naturally enjoy being submissive and sexually subservient to men.

            >im a very sexually in-demand man so im right
            That is correct. Not only have I frequently been the guy that exes call up when their new bf isn't fricking them right, but I have also frequently been with girls who tell me that they've never had an orgasm with a guy, only to very easily have one with me. Why? Because I:
            >clearly and openly express my desire
            >set the expectation that i get sex when i want it
            >am very vocal about how attractive she is and how i want frequent sex not because of anything to do with my sex drive but because she specifically turns me on so much that i can't help it
            >make sure that sex never ends until she's had at least one orgasm
            Women are not stupid. When you spend all night taking your girl out to dinner and giving her backrubs and "teasing" her and all this other shit, she can see what you're doing perfectly well. What it looks like to her is that you're begging her for sex and trying to bribe her into giving it to you and there's nothing attractive about that.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This guys wins and knows what hes talking about, poly man is the type of poof that thinks asking a women what she wants for dinner and having a 15 min convo about it is being equal, the whole time the girl is sitting there thinking why cant this homosexual just make a decision im hungry , hehe im doing the foreplay look at my tricks, meanwhile shes dry thinking when is going to frick me im bored, if your wife loves you and is attracted to you she is ready and insta wet

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            not the anon you're replying to but shut the frick up reddit homosexual

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >>been in my fair share of polyamorous relationships
          >this is basically admitting that he only fricks weird fat girls who can't experience normal sexual attraction anyway because their hormone levels are fricked up from their obesity.
          Beautifully put

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Has she ever said "use me" in bed, or a variation on it?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          no. I have tried various things, including foreplay for a while/slow sex and ramping it up as well as just throwing her down and fricking her brains out.

          maybe i'm just ugly? i don't know. I've been with around 10 chicks and never had this issue.

          My girl said the same shit. When we met it was rough, violent fricking. She told me she "outgrew" that, didn't want to be a "sex object" anymore, which she used to like. Wanted "soft", "loving" fricking. So I tried it, and things got worse than ever. I eventually went back to fricking her violently, with an occasional soft frick. She liked that better (women lie about what they like obviously) but still left in the end. Not certain but it'll probably happen this way to you. A woman like that can't be satisfied. Unless yours was never a prostitute to begin with, which would make her different from mine.

          its exactly like this anon describes. So i guess i'll just go ahead and be rougher until she inevitablly leaves me 🙁

          How old is too old for me to shack up with cute ladies? How much longer do i have if i keep NSFFW?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm the OP you're replying to. How old are you? My girl left me at 28.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        My girl said the same shit. When we met it was rough, violent fricking. She told me she "outgrew" that, didn't want to be a "sex object" anymore, which she used to like. Wanted "soft", "loving" fricking. So I tried it, and things got worse than ever. I eventually went back to fricking her violently, with an occasional soft frick. She liked that better (women lie about what they like obviously) but still left in the end. Not certain but it'll probably happen this way to you. A woman like that can't be satisfied. Unless yours was never a prostitute to begin with, which would make her different from mine.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I know this feel, im pretty convinced now that women say the opposite of what they want like a shit test to see if youre a man, if you listen to her shes the leader and she hates that, even stuff like “hate fricking” to her its probably just good sex

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It’s far more complicated and frustrating than that in my experience. I agree that you cannot take anything that women say at face value.
            The problem is that when she says ‘no’ or she ‘dislikes’ something there are at least three distinct possibilities:
            Sometimes she genuinely means it, more often than that it’s a shit test as you mentioned and occasionally they want it, but their evolved female nature craving sexual submission and so on conflicts with the feminist crap they get bombarded with these days and have inoculated due to their tendency to conform to cultural hegemonic ideologies. They then feel ashamed of what they want and hate their own desires.
            And all this is only the subconscious part of which they are often even not aware since they generally lack the most basic forms of honest self-reflection and introspection.
            Add to this they’re intentionally orchestrated mind games and dramas about trivial shit and it becomes an absolute nightmare to deal with.

            The shit is everytime when a woman says something, you have to use non-verbal cues, have a deep comprehension of her personality and psychological state at the present moment and your standing in her eyes (e. g. how much does she respect you, are you a Chad given you more leeway or just a normie) to ascertain whether they will want something or not and for what reasons. Especially for somewhat autistic people like myself this is absolutely exhausting and takes up so much cognitive bandwidth that could be spent more productively.
            You basically have to be their fricking therapist and know them better than they know themselves.

            I guess in some sense women have simply been broken by evolution and -combined with the influence of modern liberal culture- ended up with this weird utterly fragmented, Balkanized mind.
            Nevertheless, dealing with that shit on a daily basis I can’t help but feel resentful towards them.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Welcome 96.4% of marriages, it’s probably one of the most annoying things about women. You have to constantly entertain me, give me something i can put on insta or brag to my friends about and then i might let you use my hole while i lay there. Porno is gross and i feel objectified meanwhile i read smutty books (womens porno) and think about chad without trying to involve you at all. You are lucky to be going out with me, im that special. I wonder my husband is depressed and never does anything ?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yeah that's pretty blackpilled but... i am feeling pretty bad about it. I'm not a super chad but I'm decently fit. Decent job (lawyer for a big bank). I dunno. I guess I can just throw a frick load of gifts and plan elaborate shit. I just want to have sex so I can feel better. My college died a while back in a big car wreck. Been sad about it but also have had to take all his work for this big deadline coming up.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Mate everyone is in the same boat, including me, they dont see love like we do, its a harsh pill to swallow and took me years to work out (my girl is different to the others, haha kidding my self for years) if you’re putting in the effort, you might get it wrong but at least you’re trying, that shows you care, sounds like you’re doing well for yourself, dont let her ride the boat for free but the crippling mind bender is this, why wont my girl just frick me? Does she even like me? BRUTAL

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          she's a doctor. I just want to get laid by the person i love.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Also notice how you’re trying ways to make it better or find common ground while she just comes up with reasons why its not enough, this is women

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ask gf what she wants.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Blacked. It'll make you shoot bricks.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've been in my fair share of polyamorous relationships. Something about me tells my taken friends "get him in".
    Before, I thought women were genuinely just shitty sexual partners. However, every single time without fail, it ends up being the man's inability to turn their partner on. They don't even try. They just say "can we frick" and if she agrees, there's zero foreplay and just sex. If the girl is lucky enough to get any foreplay, it's a rushed 30 seconds of it with the sole intent of getting to penetration.
    I'm not saying it applies to you, but if sex makes her feel objectified, maybe try approaching sex in a non-objectifying manner. Touch her without the intent of sex. Try to "rizz" her up, because just because shes your partner doesn't mean you get a free pass to not have game.
    If she genuinely is just shitty sexually though, this is a massive incompatibility that needs to be addressed.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hey really great advice.
      Any thing I can read or like specific techniques to do this?

      Just tell me what to do and I’m game lol

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        One thing that has really gotten through to people is the concept of "teasing". Gentle touches here and there with zero intention of taking it further. Even getting a little laugh out of it. Making a game out of it even. Doing this 1-2 times a day may work wonders for you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you're a massive cuck dude, have a nice day.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what if i'm the bull?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you're probably not

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not OP, but I'm married for few years now.
      still no kids, but sex is the same as OP.
      >They don't even try. They just say "can we frick" and if she agrees, there's zero foreplay and just sex. If the girl is lucky enough to get any foreplay, it's a rushed 30 seconds of it with the sole intent of getting to penetration.
      Well, I don't know about you but I do more than this at least and make sure she has cummed, with my finger by rubbing her clit or eating her out.
      But she decline giving me sex.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >GF doesn't want to have sex. Feels objectified
    she's being a thunderc**t. rape her then leave her. women who say that "i don't want to be objectified" bullshit about just some normal fricking sex with their normal fricking partners are POLITICALLY PSYCHOTIC b***hES and NEVER WORTH IT. it's not like you were looking to cover her head to toe in dog semen and parade her through her parents neighbourhood wearing a leash, a collar and a sailor mercury costume. "objectified" my ass, i doubt she even has a strong enough imagination to know what that would entail.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    She's fricking somebody else.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    leave her. it sounds like she is already monkey-branching. do the same. look for a new girl
    i'm not joking. this will lead nowhere. just show her that denying intimacy in a fricking relationship has consequences.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cutting works pretty well

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I solve that problem by deliberately having less stress.

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