Do women ever feel bad for us

Do women ever feel bad for us

Like do they ever look as this festering shithole of ugly, unlovable men talking about committing suicide and feel an ounce of pity?

I sincerely doubt it. It's just disgust and hatred.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, they hate us

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I assumed as such

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no they dont
      cant you see how your beliefs are self limiting?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'd rather think in line with reality than think the convenient cope

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          when was the last time you talked to a female
          all original ofc

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        when was the last time you talked to a female
        all original ofc

        Every time I talk to a female I get a cold hostile reaction, they pretty much openly hate me whatever I do or say. I am faced with a dilemma. Do I keep bothering them or do I just never talk to women under 35 at all?

        >hurr you give off miserable bitter vibes they can magically sniff out
        This is bull, but even if I do, so what? If someone is upset, you should have human compassion for them, you should give them a chance to socialize and be a part of things, it is not difficult. If you cannot even do that, then you can't really claim to have the moral high ground.

        This shit is demonic. You have clearly put a lot of thought into gaslighting and logical fallacies to exclude people like us and make us out to be bad people even though we haven't done anything wrong. It is just wall to wall hate. Hate hate hate hate. Hatred and instant permanent social exclusion of men just because they don't fit in. You have all this hate, then you call us the bad guys.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i do
    this board made me start acting nice to ugly/fat men irl

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why. We are wretched. This is easily the worst of men, in terms of personality and appearance. We do nothing but insult women.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nah
        you are hurt from a lifetime of being treated like trash

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I really just want to kill myself and get it all over with. I can't fricking take it anymore.

          >Do women ever feel bad for us

          no they do not, which is precisely why you should never feel bad for anything that happens to them

          when i see some hag getting an earful on this board i always just think "you could always just frick off to the other 99.9999% of the rest of the world/internet that worships you for merely existing"

          I feel like we should have at least some empathy for women

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The problem is they have no empathy for us, they have been surrounded by media their entire lives telling them that men are bad people out to hurt them

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We are bad people out to hurt them, though

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            who is we? speak for yourself monkey

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Do women ever feel bad for us
    If a woman feels bad about a man, she will quickly pivot to the assumption that she feels that way because the man must've done something bad to her.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This post is underrated. When women feel bad, they blame men for it. It doesn't matter who did what. She doesn't want to feel that way, and even if you did nothing wrong, and she caused all the problems, her bad feelings exist because you're there. So to her it's always your fault, even if she only feels bad because of what she did to you, or what she thinks of you. It doesn't matter that you didn't do anything. What matters is how she feels and not how anyone else feels.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This post is underrated. When women feel bad, they blame men for it. It doesn't matter who did what. She doesn't want to feel that way, and even if you did nothing wrong, and she caused all the problems, her bad feelings exist because you're there. So to her it's always your fault, even if she only feels bad because of what she did to you, or what she thinks of you. It doesn't matter that you didn't do anything. What matters is how she feels and not how anyone else feels.

      scary, thought only women I knew did this. wonder why evolution would cause this

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Do women ever feel bad for us

    no they do not, which is precisely why you should never feel bad for anything that happens to them

    when i see some hag getting an earful on this board i always just think "you could always just frick off to the other 99.9999% of the rest of the world/internet that worships you for merely existing"

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no. some might pretend they do for reddit karma but they don't on a genuine level

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As a wannabe incel I tell my wife about you guys and she gets mad. "You're not an incel we have sex". "those guys are losers and misogynists"

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why the hell would you want to be an incel

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You'd be surprised, I have a good friend overseas who has millions of pounds and he sometimes has explicitly told me he envys me for living with my parents and not being in a relationship. I'm 34 and he's 40. Everyone that I have worked with in my limited time of working has also expressed similar sentiments and I'm not even remotely lying to you. The grass is always greener, it's always that way. I just ride it out and am personally encouraged by the fact that people just don't give a shit if I'm not exactly like them. I've had good results and it's pretty moronic to think otherwise.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You'd be surprised, I have a good friend overseas who has millions of pounds and he sometimes has explicitly told me he envys me for living with my parents and not being in a relationship.
          Have you offered to take that money of his that's making him so miserable?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'M PROVIDING YOU VALIDATION HOW DARE YOU REJECT IT
      Lmao, I'd do the same thing if I were you.
      Sounds funny as hell.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm misogynistic but not an incel. It's weird to me to be an incel and misogynistic. If you hate women why do you want to be with then? Real misogynists are volcels.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Similar case I had women feel sorry for me when I spent a couple years not being a shut in, I would say about 6 women felt sorry for me in total but then again they felt sorry for me not for people like me if I tried (I didn't) but if I tried to explain this place to them their reaction would have been just a blank stare and I'm an og robot who came here when anons liked to talk about being miserable not complain about women

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think some women do feel pity for us. It's the same kind of pity that you feel for aids-ridden heroin addicts in Africa. You feel bad when you think about it, but you're not going to change the way you act because of it or do anything about it. It's just something that sits in the back of your mind and occasionally comes out and you think "oh yeah that exists damn..." Of course there are the women who rationalize it away as us deserving everything we get for whatever reason, but I think most women truly just feel pity for us.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They don't even think about you at all dude if you aren't the person they are with right now. That's the way it is, it doesn't even matter if you have personally known them for many years. I've had a girl tell me this once I wanted to get too close to her. 20 years.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So. You're all just pity-hungry fricks, don't you?
    And then you wonder why they perceive you as lower beings.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ESL-kun please leave immediately

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't. I used to feel pretty bad for the men on here, but I will say that I've learned the majority of male users on this board are just genuinely bad, mean and cruel people. A lot of guys on here blame everything but themselves- women, mental disabilities/issues, porn, money, socialization, etc. but even when those problems go away or improve they still find themselves unhappy. I wonder why, it's almost like you're just an insatiable disgusting person.
    The reason men on here disgust me is because they refuse to realize that the problem isn't the world, it's themselves. You bunch are just insanely pessimistic and honestly disgusting as human beings.
    Literally go to any other board that isn't filled with sex and self hatred and you'll meet a lot of well-rounded, hopeful, kind, passionate, intelligent and "not disgusting" men.
    Occasionally you'll meet a good soul on boards like these, but I can say wholeheartedly that almost everyone here is disgusted by you. Men hate the men here, women hate the men here, you lot are just gross, kek.
    INB4 y'all reply saying something filled with cope like "you're a troony, you're the problem, women suck, my addictions of this world aren't the reason I suck it's actually (insert here), etc."

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's okay. We don't care what you think.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're mistaking the cause for the effect

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Too many words, can you make this comment shorter then I'll read it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >male users on this board are just genuinely bad, mean and cruel people
      Of course we are; we were raised and educated in a such way. Raised and educated by the most empathetic, genuinely good, kind and supportive gender.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Agree Im a male and I hate them. The men on this board are almost as pathetic as redditors.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe. Honestly wouldnt matter, they are going be conditioned hate us anyway or be deemed as a pickme.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Do women ever feel bad for us
    No I don't think so, they constantly get shit on by the more moronic elements here, so there's no fricking way they are going to feel empathy for any of us

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Obviously I can't speak for every woman, but I know I do. I imagine what it would be like to feel desperately lonely and unlovable, and it's a very sad thing. My problem with incels is that they have a tendency to identify actual problems (ex: men recieve very little social support) but then somehow blame all those problems on women. It doesn't make their problems suck any less though, so I still feel bad for them. I think many are using hatred and rage to mask their grief.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine being brought up in western schools and having insane amounts of feminism and male hatred shoved down your throat for years on end. That is what being a man is like. Constantly being told you are the problem. Constantly being told you are "overthinking" things, when you try to get women to rationally stop being horrid monsters to all of men. Constantly told that women are perfect, that ALL women are perfect. That ALL men are bad. Do you realize how damaging this has been to my entire generation?

      No. I will never forgive women for what they have done to me, my society, my brothers, and my elders. Women will one day reap the benefits of their toxic lifestyles, but for now they absolutely grounds to stand on when speaking on oppression, forced celibacy, and forced genital mutilations.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Correction: having post-feminist male hatred shoved down your throat for DECADES. FRICKING DECADES.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I must not have been in class when the male hatred lesson was taught. Can I borrow your notes?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I have seen many men getting harassed by women, women being at the top of the social ladder and using that power to abuse men. I have seen this everywhere. in school, at work, online, at bars, clubs, rock concerts, private rp groups, basically every single social circle I have ever seen ends up placing womens needs, opinions, and voices in higher standing for /pussy/
          i mean equality.

          the only reason any man ever became a feminist was because he wanted pussy. women can get what they want pretty fricking easy in this world dude. you would be a fricking idiot to reject that notion while you watch every single celebrity who has ever lived get pumped and dumped by some stacy and then had half his assets stolen even though she could have had a normal life without them. all of this is truly fricking moronic and being an incel is unironically the most based way to go. criticize women openly about these things. go ahead and see just how quickly every manprostitute tries to shut you up. see how quickly you find women who are smart but being oppressed by this new wave of "sexual liberation". Trust me.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            inb4
            >Your anecdotal experiences don't define the world you live in
            yes they do.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why do you need sympathy from women

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sure i feel bad.

    Then i browse adv and NSFFW for a couple days and im like, 75-80% of users will not do a damn thing to change their circumstances. Thats where my empathy ends. No one has the right to bemoan their circumstances and then do nothing about it. Learned helplessness affords me no empathy

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, almost no one here is truly an unlovable abomination due to physical qualities. Most of you are just unlikable buttholes and I dont have sympathy for someone who cant get a girlfriend because women can immediately tell hes a bad person.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        who are you to assume you know how we are like based off of what you see online, that's more moronic

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ive been here for years and interacted with many of you unfortunately. Most men here who complain about no gf are actually demons from another plane of existence. I might have some sympathy for those who have trouble holding a job due to autism or such tho. Not the incel narrative pushers.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you actually see us as demons because we can't have sex

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            no, i see you as demons because you're all fricking evil. i don't care if someone is just a virgin, but even normal virgins don't end up here. you're all weird sexists, racists, obsessed with violence and death, unironic pedophiles, and NEET dropouts of society who hate people.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can believe that but it's not true lol, I'm as normal as can be outside of this website

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            possible, you could be normal

            I'm none of those things. I'm a male feminist incels who supports gender and racial equality, k want a kinder gentler world where we all take care of each other rather than violence and death, I don't want children to be hurt, and I have an actual career (though it's low status and seen as feminine). Of course you females don't care and just will do whatever you can to demonize us and create your Jist World Fallacy explanations to explain why bigoted Chad is actually better than us and is more deserving of romance, you don't actually care about any of those things, you are a shallow chadsexual pig and you know it

            >i'm a male feminist
            >you are a shallow chadsexual pig and you know it
            this guy definitely isn't though. he's a dickhead

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, it's not sexist or "being a dickhead" to point out that women are factually choosing to be shallow chadsexual pigs. Women are equal to men and could always choose to be less shallow and shitty. They just currently refuse to do so, because they refuse to apply their own sociological feminist ideas to themselves and hate the idea that they took should be expected to be decent to people

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you have incel brainrot, you're not entitled to sex. try being a decent person and maybe you'll have better luck

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I am a decent person. Decency just doesn't matter for dating. Women are even pretty vocal about this, with how much they hate nice guys. Also I don't care about sex, I'm not Chad, I'd be fine with a platonic romantic relationship and mostly just care about the emotional intimacy and companionship. But when don't care and would rather keep getting pumped and dumped by shitty abusechads than settle for unattractive nice guys who would actually care about them and love them.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Be vocal about how women's actions are generally abusive towards men
            > "Muh Incel" "Muh Virgin" "You're evil" "You must be a bad person"

            Okay and so what? The best people who are able to call out evils are the ones who have rightfully curbed those behaviors from within themselves. Women have a long way to go if it means realizing their pride and contempt for men is hurting all of us.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Women don't call out actual evils in incels anyway, it's just a cover to defend themselves from the reality that women are the ones choosing to do more evil. They don't actually care when we turn against evilness. They'd just say that we only did it as a way to manipulate them or as a transactional thing anyway, even when we clearly reject evil despite how doing so doesn't really benefit us personally

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >inb4 "you're generalizing women"
            Yes. Women have generalized me and my compatriots for the last 60 years. I don't give a frick if you think "some women are alright I guess."
            You and I, every anon on this board, and the entire world know deep down that women are unchecked. The entire idea of a "sexual liberation" has only evolved to make actual class warfare between people who's genetics are good enough to procreate or people who's actions are manipulative enough to stoke the flames of their attraction. The commodification of sex creates such disgusting creatures of us all- and I wholeheartedly blame women for not doing more to stop this. To stop themselves. To stop pimps, prostitutes, porn- women willingly selled themselves into sex slavery without a second thought and then began insulting everybody who thought them irresponsible for it. Do you want these "people" to be the mothers of your children? Do you want these fricking parasitic animals polluting your streets any longer?

            No. I want justice. I want freedom.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >reeeee i'm none of the things you listed i'm a good person
            >posts racist sexist caricatures
            >has sexist beliefs about women
            >entitlement
            >blaming women for sex slavery and referring to them as parasites
            literally zero sympathy for you and your ilk

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And I have zero sympathy for prostitutes and harlots- which encompasses around 98-99 percent of all women. Go back to being a single mother for the rest of your life. Let's just take a look at the statistics between single fathers and single mothers and see who does better in general... OH WAIT we fricking can't because women have absolutely neutered male rights in the west and every single one of their no-fault divorces ends in the mother getting total custody of the child. Women do not deserve any of this.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >most women are single mothers
            not even close to true. i'm a virgin and i would never pick a weird sexist racist incel brainrot demon like you. being single is better than dealing with someone as yourself.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A woman like you will always be a single mother. And I will always be a single father. However I have such the talent to trick you idiot foids sometimes. Your kind, possibly even you, WILL bear my heir. Mine is the spirit of integrity of intention- you will never resist that which you know to be truly righteous and just. My will.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anyways, all of these points you are making pale in comparison to the mountains of evidence that incels have of females oppressing them.
            > "ur incel!" "ur mgtow!" "ur a virgin!" "ur mentally ill!" "ur lying!" "ur gay!" "ur ugly!"

            You normies are always so repetitive and predictable. If you are unable to admit, even for one second, that women oppress men in ways that are unacceptable, I don't see any reason to continue this conversation. You obviously just like to state the same shit over and over without taking one fricking moment to think critically about whether or not the actual men who went through hell because of women who ruined their lives actually deserved all that suffering. I say they fricking didn't deserve it. I say incels don't deserve their suffering. I say that women are the ones who are entitled for being so unwilling to recognize their cultural dedication to the hatred of my people. I say that my brothers will not wrong me, nor I them. It is the feminine wile which draws them towards a dark pit which I rarely see many men come back out of a better person. I'm sorry but you are simply incredulous if you want me to believe there is any forgiveness possible. You aren't even suggesting to forgive them for hurting all of us so, only denying the truth. What do you have to gain by defending them? Are you one of the 80+ people who fricked my future wife? Fricking prostitute-monger.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's a different person. I doubt that person is saying they aren't racist and sexist. Of course you females will just act like I agree with that bullshit anyway because you can't handle the thought that many of us incels genuinely are nice

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            if you were nice you wouldn't call yourself an incel, the term is drenched in entitlement.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Feminists get to criticize gender roles and beauty standards when applied to women, and that's seen as ok. But when men simply use the same feminist logic and apply it to men (even if we ALSO agree with it when applied to women) we are called "entitled". And that's fricking bullshit. Women shouldn't get to have selective access to equality while rejecting equality and supporting tradition when that pleases them more. Equality is for everyone and should be applied consistently. The fact that females get so fricking outraged when men simply apply very basic feminist concepts to ourselves too is fricking bullshit and is a big part of why so many men are becoming incels and getting mad as hell. Slapping the smear of "entitlement" onto it isn't going to make it stop

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            wanting to experience a basic human need and emotion such as romantic connection and love is entitlement? the great "empathetic" gender everybody

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            remember, its only entitlement when (You) need it. when it comes to women, fricking some other dude then divorcing and still getting half the assets is a god given right

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm none of those things. I'm a male feminist incels who supports gender and racial equality, k want a kinder gentler world where we all take care of each other rather than violence and death, I don't want children to be hurt, and I have an actual career (though it's low status and seen as feminine). Of course you females don't care and just will do whatever you can to demonize us and create your Jist World Fallacy explanations to explain why bigoted Chad is actually better than us and is more deserving of romance, you don't actually care about any of those things, you are a shallow chadsexual pig and you know it

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Women are the evil. Women are sexist. Women are considerably more obsessed with violence and death, and then lash out against men because they have not the power we do.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >women can immediately tell hes a bad person.
        lol. thats not how it works. women will frick bad men all the time then act shocked when he doesnt commit to them or screws them over despite guys knowing they are bad people. women arent good at figuring out who the bad guys are.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't even know we exist and I don't mean it like they know about us but don't care I mean almost the totality of women have no idea whatsoever that we exist, some will have contact with a robot like a brother or an estranged father or a friend who fell into bad times and she will feel bad about that person but remain completely unaware that that's a thing that happens and will see that man as a strange case and be puzzled by the whole situation

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's a growing trend of women actually talking about the "male loneliness problem" and even talking about us with some veneer of pity and concern

    They still don't actually see us Undesirables as humans deserving of respect though. They just see us as a threat, and a threat that is growing so large that it perhaps can't just be dealt with the traditional "mocking, bullying, and demonization" route now that so many men are incels. It's all self preservation and it basically just amounts to "still push men to go to therapy in order for men to be told to conform to women's bullshit standards, but we will use kinder rhetoric and make it sound like this actually helps men, rather than openly use Go To Therapy You Freak" as an insult

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, that's not women, those are memernalists, redfitors and other types of activists, real women don't discuss things online they take pictures of their buts and wait for people to compliment them

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most of my friends are women and I am in a career that is mostly women as well. This sort of stuff has been increasingly permeating into regular women, or at least a bunch of the regular women I interact with

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Figures. No one really cares if we're fricking sad. They just want us to get medicated/docile so they just don't have to hear it anymore. They don't actually want us happy, they want us silent. Frick 'em, frick their pills and their bullshit pep talks. Frick their worthless phone lines and their cold responses. Frick their psych wards that just lock you in a room, frick their emotionless therapist that just regurgitate the same psych bullshit you can get from a YouTube video, frick the cops that will barge into your home and shove their guns in your face. Just frick them all.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >There's a growing trend of women actually talking about the "male loneliness problem"
      You mean influencers feigning sympathy for clout?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You mean influencers feigning sympathy for clout?
        Mostly, yeah

        [...]

        >We dug this fricking hole ourselves. We're disgusting and this is what we deserve.
        Mostly it was our ancestors who dug the whole, not "ourselves". Some men want to maintain the old ways, and shame on them. But we are capable of turning against tradition and supporting equality and liberation instead. We don't all need to be responsible for furthering the unfairness that exists

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even female pity is chad-only

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've learned that women don't have true empathy for anything.
    they just lie.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I sincerely believe they feel pure hatred, disgust and laugh their asses off to the tormented scrotes who feel compelled enough to proclaim their misery in here. It gives them an ego boost because they are beyond fricked in the head themselves.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You ever go on crystal cafe? If so, have you ever seen women there say shit like "I'm so fricking alone. I just want an incel bf to hold me and make my sadness fade."?

      No, you don't. It's because they fricking hate us and feel no pity for us. You see morons here say that about femcels all of the time, but femcels do not feel the same about us. We don't deserve pity, no man does. They should just let us rot away and die.

      whenever i see an ugly or short dude i stare at him and smile so he thinks i like him even if i don't. i'm mid so it probably doesn't make a difference to him but at least they should know that they're lovable

      Don't even bother. Ignore us and keep walking. Doing this is more offensive than just being honest with us.

      [...]
      ok so i should just ignore them instead and pretend they don't exist? i thought that was even worse
      [...]
      why did you say frick you to me anon that's mean

      Yes, you should ignore us. Just let us rot and die, please I'm fricking begging you.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You ever go on crystal cafe?
        Yes, sometimes I lurk on that slow moving shithole and I agree with you. The thing most really don't get or don't want to admit is that living is simply easier for a woman. They pretend to be lonely, but can't be asked to use a dating app if it's so bad and get 1000 idiots lined up within a week. For guys, it's nightmare more if they aren't chad. But looking at this whole disaster from a very distanced perspective reveals that it's all shit, for both men and women. It's really, deep down, all just a cesspit.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >get 1000 idiots lined up within a week
          What's the point of that exactly? Being considered a sex object isnt a previledge. If thats your only goal become a troony.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I once dated a guy from here. He was an autist. Total moron, but he was super confident after I started dating him. He changed his personality overnight and started acting like some wannabe gangster rapper. He's the kind of guy who thinks that wearing a leopard print fur coat over a tank top, spraying himself with Axe bodyspray, putting in some $2 hair gel to look like some guido from Jersey Shore, and wearing some fake gold israeliteelry that he got in Chinatown is going to make women throw themselves at him. I felt like I fixed him, but he was kind of weird tbh

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For the most part, women (read normie women so most) don't really give much too thought for guys lower down the totem pole. For a lot of women though some guys as well, the universe revolves around them which makes their whims and desires absolute and sacrosanct. If they register our existence, likely in some negative scenario where we're criticising them, then yeah they'll hate us

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    whenever i see an ugly or short dude i stare at him and smile so he thinks i like him even if i don't. i'm mid so it probably doesn't make a difference to him but at least they should know that they're lovable

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's so fricking sociopathic hahahaha. Women, even single time lol

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >whenever i see an ugly or short dude i stare at him and smile so he thinks i like him even if i don't.
        Holy shit it's so over

        ok so i should just ignore them instead and pretend they don't exist? i thought that was even worse

        Lower your standards and date ugly short male feminist incels, stop being so fricking picky and chadsexual holy shit frick you and frick your bullshit standards

        why did you say frick you to me anon that's mean

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, you are doing a nice thing giving them attention. The fact that it's fake is just horrible. Hell I think most girls would agree if they realized every guy smiling at her was just trying to make her feel better.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >why did you say frick you to me anon that's mean
          It's not mean, what's mean is the fact that no females will settle for nice guys like me because y'all just want shitty trad abusechads. Your standards are what's mean.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >whenever i see an ugly or short dude i stare at him and smile so he thinks i like him even if i don't.
      Holy shit it's so over

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lower your standards and date ugly short male feminist incels, stop being so fricking picky and chadsexual holy shit frick you and frick your bullshit standards

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Doormat-anon! You need to love yourself brudda!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nope. Women should accept me for who I am and love me without me loving myself.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I am and love me without me loving myself.
            Doormat-anon... If you want them to come to you, you need to be atleast a BIT more confident then that.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Doormat-anon... If you want them to come to you, you need to be atleast a BIT more confident then that.
            Frick your gender roles, I will not be confident, I will never be confident

            i'm not trying to be cruel and i do think all of those men have potential to be more attractive. i genuinely want the best for them
            [...]
            i realize that it does sound bad but i just want them to be more confident so that they can at least realize it's not over
            [...]
            and what's so nice about you?

            >and what's so nice about you?
            To women? Nothing, because I'm not dominant, confident, masculine, extroverted, neurotypical, etc, and women have made it clear they don't give a shit about basic decency. But I do have basic decency, I'm caring, respectful, a good listener, easygoing, genuinely want an equal relationship and to make someone happy rather than just using them like a Chad does, and so on. Again, females will never give a shit about basic decency so none of that is actually nice to them of course

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I will never be confident
            And this is why I gave you the nickname Doormat-anon (maybe I should do Kun instead) regardless, I hope you find that one dominate liberal feminist gf one day.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Frick no I don't want a dominant gf. I hate hierarchy. And I hate the popular idea that it's cool and rebellious and subversive to simply reverse hierarchies and turn them into fetishes. I don't want any dominance in a relationship in either direction. I just want a fricking equal relationship where neither of us want to dominate anyone. Dominance has caused oceans of blood and has led to hundreds of millions of people suffering under millenia of oppression, I don't want that shit anywhere. I refuse to be dominant but my opposition to dominance goes far beyond just not wanting to personally be dominant myself

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >By subverting gender biases and wanting a woman to recognize your value and seek you out specifically you are a doormat
            Women, the empathetic gender everybody

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they should know that they're lovable
      >just not by me lol
      This type of thinking guarantees you're a female. Cruel even when trying to be kind, that takes talent

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i'm not trying to be cruel and i do think all of those men have potential to be more attractive. i genuinely want the best for them

        No, you are doing a nice thing giving them attention. The fact that it's fake is just horrible. Hell I think most girls would agree if they realized every guy smiling at her was just trying to make her feel better.

        i realize that it does sound bad but i just want them to be more confident so that they can at least realize it's not over

        >why did you say frick you to me anon that's mean
        It's not mean, what's mean is the fact that no females will settle for nice guys like me because y'all just want shitty trad abusechads. Your standards are what's mean.

        and what's so nice about you?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >i just want them to be more confident so that they can at least realize it's not over
          Maybe a uncomfortable truth is better than a comfortable lie.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i wouldn't say it's me giving them false hope but i just like making people feel better about themselves regardless if they're a man or woman or how they look. i think every human deserves love despite what the self hating men here say

            >Doormat-anon... If you want them to come to you, you need to be atleast a BIT more confident then that.
            Frick your gender roles, I will not be confident, I will never be confident
            [...]
            >and what's so nice about you?
            To women? Nothing, because I'm not dominant, confident, masculine, extroverted, neurotypical, etc, and women have made it clear they don't give a shit about basic decency. But I do have basic decency, I'm caring, respectful, a good listener, easygoing, genuinely want an equal relationship and to make someone happy rather than just using them like a Chad does, and so on. Again, females will never give a shit about basic decency so none of that is actually nice to them of course

            why wouldn't they care about basic decency? when i was asking that i meant what good qualities you have as a human being not if you're dominant lol

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >wouldn't they care about basic decency?
            It's what the whole "nice guy" thing is about, women saying they think it's fricked up that men want to be liked just because we have basic decency, and that it doesn't even matter anyway, that what matters is being desirable. Basic decency is seen as "just what should be expected of everyone" even though women will then go on to frick guys who lack basic decency

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            well i really admire basic decency and i think it's a great trait to have. even if it's expected of everyone that doesn't mean everyone has it so i'd really appreciate that in a guy and many women would. i know you probably think that all women like "bad boys" or whatever but you clearly let what's posted here get to you too much i think

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not that women directly want "bad boys", but that even when they would prefer men weren't that, they still have preferences for the sort of traditional, masculine, hyper confident dark triad etc sort of traits that lead to men being more likely to be bad. And then when women compromise since they can't always get everything they want, they are less likely to compromise on looks, height, etc or on the useless/counterproductive personality traits than they are to compromise on basic decency and say stuff like "oh, well if all men are going to frick us over, might as well get fricked by a hot guy who makes effort!". Y'all refuse to settle for nice but also unattractive guys who don't pander to women's bullshit gender roles for us

            Also I don't let the stuff posted here get to me, otherwise I'd be some weird Nazi racist freak. Most of my friends and coworkers are women, this is how women IRL are. Y'all will claim to like basic decency but would rather hop on a Chad who maybe isn't so nice than settle for a nice incel

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i don't think gender roles are a problem as long as it doesn't lead to unrealistic expectations or having to perform what you think is "masculine" or "feminine". like i think a relationship should be equal but it's also nice if a guy is selfless and does things for his gf and not having to split everything 50/50 just because. then i'd reciprocate and do things for you without you having to ask. i also kinda doubt that you didn't let some of it get to you lol. not saying you're a nazi but NSFFW is such a negative place. it's the same thing with how racists say they know black people but that doesn't mean they can't still dislike them a lot and be racist

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well I disagree. Gender roles are inherently toxic and fricked up. Treating different humans differently because of gender is bad and has and will only lead to the risk of bad things. What's so bad about doing things 50/50?

            Also it's not like I grew up on here and that it formed my opinions or whatever. I'm just here because it's the only remaining incel space on the internet. My progressive ideals and values solidified way before I even realized that women will never fricking accept me or date me. I'm far too stubborn to change that. When I say I'm not racist or sexist or whatever, that's not me doing that as a "I as a conservative support equality, it's the left who are the REAL bigots" thing, I genuinely support equality and liberation even if it is inconvenient for me. If anything, the only way "this place gets to me" is by further cementing my values as a reaction due to the annoyance of the last incel space on the internet needing to be an obnoxious mostly right wing shit hole

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Well I disagree. Gender roles are inherently toxic and fricked up
            how so?
            > Treating different humans differently because of gender is bad and has and will only lead to the risk of bad things
            i agree that being a misogynist or misandrist is bad but how does that tie into basic differences between men and women?
            >What's so bad about doing things 50/50?
            it's not bad but like don't you want to feel good about taking care of your gf and doing things for her without her asking?
            > When I say I'm not racist or sexist or whatever, that's not me doing that as a "I as a conservative support equality, it's the left who are the REAL bigots" thing, I genuinely support equality and liberation even if it is inconvenient for me. If anything, the only way "this place gets to me" is by further cementing my values as a reaction due to the annoyance of the last incel space on the internet needing to be an obnoxious mostly right wing shit hole
            people tend to pick up negative sentiments subconsciously even if they don't agree with it. maybe you are actually telling the truth but so many men have went down this pipeline and end up becoming bitter and cruel

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >i agree that being a misogynist or misandrist is bad but how does that tie into basic differences between men and women?
            What basic differences actually do exist are very small and probably still exaggerated. The differences between the average man and average woman are far smaller than the differences and diversity within any one gender. And a lot of the differences that do exist can still be due to socially constructed factors rather than inherent. It's common for folks to point to this or that study that "shows" that gender differences are biological and inherent, but these things often are based on some combination of just poorly done and not well replicable studies or just studies that don't actually clearly support the conclusion of inherent differences. If you are interested, there's a book "Delusions of Gender" about neuroscience that shows how a lot of even the small differences that exist are likely not actually inherent
            >How so?
            Well because we aren't actually all that different. Creating difference where difference doesn't exist is just doing sexism and cultivating it's conditions
            >it's not bad but like don't you want to feel good about taking care of your gf and doing things for her without her asking?
            I mean I'd rather communicate about things and do things that I know she wants when I know she wants them. Not a fan of assuming. Also that doesn't mean things can't be done 50/50 with equality
            >but so many men have went down this pipeline and end up becoming bitter and cruel
            I'm bitter as hell, but I see nothing wrong with bitterness. I do see something wrong with cruelty and have no desire to be cruel, I just don't do things that are cruel and never will. I have values and they won't let me do that. A lot of people believe it's ok to be cruel to at least some people, and then expand in who they rationalize it's ok to be cruel to. I just think cruelty is NEVER ok, not even to the worst people

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It's common for folks to point to this or that study that "shows" that gender differences are biological and inherent, but these things often are based on some combination of just poorly done and not well replicable studies

            Lmao, cope.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >What basic differences actually do exist are very small and probably still exaggerated. The differences between the average man and average woman are far smaller than the differences and diversity within any one gender. And a lot of the differences that do exist can still be due to socially constructed factors rather than inherent. It's common for folks to point to this or that study that "shows" that gender differences are biological and inherent, but these things often are based on some combination of just poorly done and not well replicable studies or just studies that don't actually clearly support the conclusion of inherent differences. If you are interested, there's a book "Delusions of Gender" about neuroscience that shows how a lot of even the small differences that exist are likely not actually inherent
            yes i dont think women and men are all that different and the differences between them has caused problems. i still think women and men are different and that doesn't make you bigoted. men and women's natures are pretty different and men tend to be more violent. there's probably similarities in their brains but idk
            >Well because we aren't actually all that different. Creating difference where difference doesn't exist is just doing sexism and cultivating it's conditions
            acknowledging the differences doesn't mean you're discriminating though
            >I mean I'd rather communicate about things and do things that I know she wants when I know she wants them. Not a fan of assuming. Also that doesn't mean things can't be done 50/50 with equality
            not like assuming but if you don't even bother covering the bill at times then you won't be seen as reliable or financially secure
            >I'm bitter as hell, but I see nothing wrong with bitterness
            but bitterness isn't good anon and i don't blame you for feeling like that but you should strive to be happy and at peace

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >i still think women and men are different and that doesn't make you bigoted. men and women's natures are pretty different and men tend to be more violent
            Again this stuff isn't by nature, it's socially constructed. This is some pretty basic social science stuff too. Men aren't inherently more violent, plenty of us aren't like that and the rest don't need to be like that
            >acknowledging the differences doesn't mean you're discriminating though
            Attributing them to nature tends to lead to discrimination
            >not like assuming but if you don't even bother covering the bill at times then you won't be seen as reliable or financially secure
            That's just stupid, assuming that a guy is not reliable or financially secure just because he goes 50/50? Literally setting it up so that equality means the guy is bad? Ugh gender is fricking trash
            >but bitterness isn't good anon and i don't blame you for feeling like that but you should strive to be happy and at peace
            I'll be happy and at peace when feminist women accept me for who I am and date me. Which will never happen

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Again this stuff isn't by nature, it's socially constructed.
            im not saying that societal structures haven't caused a split between the sexes but you can't just deny science and facts. its weird how you either get labeled an incel misogynist or radfem when saying this
            >Men aren't inherently more violent, plenty of us aren't like that and the rest don't need to be like that
            im not saying all men are inherently violent but they tend to be violent way more than women and have a higher capacity for being violent
            >Attributing them to nature tends to lead to discrimination
            i think discrimination based on differences is wrong but two things can be true. equality and human rights for all while realizing that not everyone is the exact same but deserve the same opportunities
            >That's just stupid, assuming that a guy is not reliable or financially secure just because he goes 50/50? Literally setting it up so that equality means the guy is bad? Ugh gender is fricking trash
            so you'd never pay for your gf when going to a restaurant or something?
            >I'll be happy and at peace when feminist women accept me for who I am and date me. Which will never happen
            well basically all women are feminist so your pool isn't limited. theres someone for everyone and women make up half the world so im not being far fetched when saying that

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but you can't just deny science and facts
            It's "science and facts" when the conclusions align with "common sense" and preexisting popular biases, and "denying science and facts" when other studies suggest against those biases or when methodological flaws are found in research that appears to support biases...
            >so you'd never pay for your gf when going to a restaurant or something?
            I'd rather just split the bill all the time. Though I'd also rather not eat out all that much and would rather eat at home anyway. And I'd rather cook together, I like the idea of doing a lot of domestic stuff together
            >well basically all women are feminist so your pool isn't limited. theres someone for everyone and women make up half the world so im not being far fetched when saying that
            But they don't want me
            >its weird how you either get labeled an incel misogynist or radfem when saying this
            Oh and radfems are the ones who acknowledge that gender roles are bullshit and men and women aren't different, while the more moderate feminists are the ones who tend to lean more towards "we should have legal equality but men and women are inherently different and gender roles shouldn't be forced but aren't that bad sometimes" ideas

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It's "science and facts" when the conclusions align with "common sense" and preexisting popular biases, and "denying science and facts" when other studies suggest against those biases or when methodological flaws are found in research that appears to support biases...
            well maybe saying science is wrong on my part but its just as dumb to unquestionably believe every study just because. isn't it self evident that men are different from women especially with sexual dismorphism?
            >I'd rather just split the bill all the time
            that's being so cheap lol. i think each person paying for the whole meal at different times is nice
            >Though I'd also rather not eat out all that much and would rather eat at home anyway. And I'd rather cook together, I like the idea of doing a lot of domestic stuff together
            yeah that's way better than eating out obviously but i was just making an example
            >Oh and radfems are the ones who acknowledge that gender roles are bullshit and men and women aren't different, while the more moderate feminists are the ones who tend to lean more towards "we should have legal equality but men and women are inherently different and gender roles shouldn't be forced but aren't that bad sometimes" ideas
            that is not true at all lol. i agree with some radfem talking points but they do think men and women are inherently different. haven't you read dworkin and solanas?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >isn't it self evident that men are different from women especially with sexual dismorphism?
            Other than pregnancy, not really. There's the thing about some differences in strength but even that could be socially constructed, there's muscle studies of people from cave people times and regular women then tended to have musculature of pro athletes of today so it could just be that we live in a softer world and also one where women are pushed towards less athletic interests. Also we live in a world where physical strength matters less these days anyway
            >that's being so cheap lol. i think each person paying for the whole meal at different times is nice
            But it's no cheaper than each person paying the whole meal at different times. It just also has more aesthetics of constant equality which feels nicer
            >i agree with some radfem talking points but they do think men and women are inherently different. haven't you read dworkin and solanas?
            Dworkin talked about men in harsh terms but ultimately rejected biological essentialism strongly (part of her anger at men was in the knowledge that "boys will be boys" is just bullshit and we don't need to be like that). Solanas on the other hand, like, gets lumped in with ideological radical feminism but was arguably more a case of someone who just experienced some really extreme awful stuff in her life in a time where men weren't really expected to be good, and turned to advocating for a sort of opposition to men that isn't really characteristic of academic/ideological "radical feminism" and may just get lumped in with it because of it being very "radical" in the more colloquial use of the term "radical"

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Other than pregnancy, not really. There's the thing about some differences in strength but even that could be socially constructed, there's muscle studies of people from cave people times and regular women then tended to have musculature of pro athletes of today so it could just be that we live in a softer world and also one where women are pushed towards less athletic interests. Also we live in a world where physical strength matters less these days anyway
            men literally have higher bone density than women and can run faster than them on average. im not going to lie to myself and say that im just as strong as a man and that if get fit i can beat one in a fight
            >But it's no cheaper than each person paying the whole meal at different times. It just also has more aesthetics of constant equality which feels nicer
            yeah but dont you want to pay for stuff for someone you like? im not saying that money is the most important thing but a girl would feel special and taken care of if you show her that you can buy her nice things
            >Dworkin talked about men in harsh terms but ultimately rejected biological essentialism strongly (part of her anger at men was in the knowledge that "boys will be boys" is just bullshit and we don't need to be like that). Solanas on the other hand, like, gets lumped in with ideological radical feminism but was arguably more a case of someone who just experienced some really extreme awful stuff in her life in a time where men weren't really expected to be good, and turned to advocating for a sort of opposition to men that isn't really characteristic of academic/ideological "radical feminism" and may just get lumped in with it because of it being very "radical" in the more colloquial use of the term "radical"
            i know dworkin gets misunderstood a lot but she made many points about how men assume a more dominant role than women which causes inequality in not just in society but in sex too.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >men literally have higher bone density than women and can run faster than them on average. im not going to lie to myself and say that im just as strong as a man and that if get fit i can beat one in a fight
            Physical strength, again, matters less and less in the world today, so it doesn't make sense to treat anyone differently because of it. Also nobody should have to fight anyone, we should all be nice to each other
            >yeah but dont you want to pay for stuff for someone you like? im not saying that money is the most important thing but a girl would feel special and taken care of if you show her that you can buy her nice things
            I don't like the traditionalist ideas of being a provider and all that. I'd rather show my care in non-consumerist ways. It's not something where I'd be dead set against, like, paying the whole bill if she forgot her money once, or would want to strictly keep track of things to make sure everything fully adds up to 50% at all times, but I'd want for things to generally break even. Especially with that sort of thing. I'd be fine if things were more uneven with domestic stuff, if it were uneven in the sense of me doing more than 50% of the domestic stuff, but that would be to make sure I wasn't being that sort of guy who aims to do 50/50 but falls into the gendered norms in reality. I just really hate gender roles and if things were going to fall outside of breaking even, I'd rather do it in the non traditional ways than traditional ways

            Also I'd rather make a girl feel special and taken care of by doing non money romantic stuff, emotional labor, and so on
            >i know dworkin gets misunderstood a lot but she made many points about how men assume a more dominant role than women which causes inequality in not just in society but in sex too.
            Well yeah and men don't need to be "that way" in sex either, that's also socially constructed and some of us see it and don't want to have dominance or inequality in sex either

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Gender roles are inherently toxic and fricked up
            Blame nature for that.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not nature though

            >It's common for folks to point to this or that study that "shows" that gender differences are biological and inherent, but these things often are based on some combination of just poorly done and not well replicable studies

            Lmao, cope.

            People are reading "Delusions of Gender" by Cordelia Fine. Many people are talking about this. You can also download the PDF for free via libgen, and then you too can wake up from your sheeplehood even if buying books is a difficulty for you.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    women blame the victims. they reject us and tell us we just didnt try hard enough, because we werent born the right way

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i do! it's actually really upsetting trying to befriend some of you sometimes. i have a few nerdy guy friends who make off color comments a lot but we stay friends because they manage to not cross my boundaries and respect me as a person.

    ive lost a lot of guy friends due to just blatantly coming on to me (repeatedly) after ive made it clear that I'm not available, or saying something so bigoted i just couldn't stay friends

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They do all the time. Not here because it's mostly piss poor performative spam though

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A female doctor was nice to me, when I went to the hospital after hurting myself. I was shocked. I thought the only emotions male weakness evokes in women are disgust and revulsion. She was putting sutures in my arm, and she didn't have to be nice to me. But she was. I'll remember her forever.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only women who will ever feel any amount of love for us at all is our own mothers but unfortunately, even some anons here can't even experience let-alone that.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have empathy for every living thing

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women have no empathy for even Chad, their family members, and men who provide value to them. They certainly aren't going to magically start having empathy for some random loser on the internet. you need to stop caring what they think, we have empathy for you and I think most normal guys do too. That's what really matters. Stop begging for approval from people who would rather see you dead.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, because most of you are very judgmental, even more than the people you call normies. So I'm judging you back.
    You're that type of nerd in the group who thinks they're better than everyone else, and think how we're all NPCs and not 500 IQ geniuses like you. Super arrogant, and then you go online and complain that everyone you know is subhuman and below you.
    And then you have the basement dwellers, not much pity for them either, they should get a job at least.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But you don't even know me! And look! You're making so many assumptions about me! This isn't very nice 🙁

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate the incels. The other losers or abused kids I feel bad Im in the same boat.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you hate me? I never did anything to you ;_;

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How many murderers did this board birth again?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But I didn't murder or hurt anybody. Why do you think it's okay to generalize like this and hurt my feelings?

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    How the frick do you grow such a massive ego? You're embarassing.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    have a nice day simp Black person. douse yourself with acid

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women care about us in as far as they can use as as a puppy dog for amusement or virtue signaling. They're like the rich white girl on Instagram posing in front of a bunch of starving Africans, then when the cameras are off she goes back to the posh hotel while they continue to starve.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Man that's hot. We should be puppies for women and starve while they live in posh hotels

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no, they cause it

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