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Do you think most women who get abortions are aware of the lifetime regret they will experience?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Of course. Even a child knows that murder is wrong.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ahh waking up that she murdered her kid for her own gain? even a witch can wake up. i hate israelites so much for pushing blood libel rituals like this and normalizing murder.

      Exodus 13:1-2
      New International Version
      13TheLordsaid to Moses,2“Consecrate to me every firstborn male.The first offspring of every womb among the Israelites belongs to me, whether human or animal.”

      Exodus 13:11-12
      New International Version
      11“After theLordbrings you into the land of the Canaanitesand gives it to you, as he promised on oathto you and your ancestors,12you are to give over to theLordthe first offspring of every womb. All the firstborn males of your livestock belong to theLord.13Redeem with a lamb every firstborn donkey,but if you do not redeem it, break its neck.Redeemevery firstborn among your sons.

      Exodus 22:29-30
      New International Version
      29“Do not hold back offeringsfrom your granaries or your vats.“You must give me the firstborn of your sons.30Do the same with your cattle and your sheep.Let them stay with their mothers for seven days, but give them to me on the eighth day.

      Exodus 34:19
      New International Version
      19“The first offspringof every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock.20Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck.Redeem all your firstborn sons. No one is to appear before me empty-handed."

      All part of God's plan

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm against abortion too but I don't think Christianity is really the most pro life religion.. look at the wiping out of the Canaanites god orders the killing of children and animals and what's the justification supposed to be ? That they'll go straight to heaven? You could use that justification to justify abortion today

        A religion like Jainism which thousands of years ago was talking about the existence of sperm and eggs makes more sense

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          If the Israelites would have listened to God, we would not have a israelite problem today. Their evil is genetic.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Do you not believe in free will?
            Someone can literally have genetics that make them a psychopath and still be a good person
            Someone can have genetics that makes them constantly hungry and almost never feel full and still choose to be skinny

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Generally I would agree with you, i've met Blacks that reject their own race and spend all their time among whites and other Blacks like them, generally being productive people. I have never seen that with a israelite, I have only wanted to smash and destroy israelites, something about them is so deeply rooted in evil that it needs to be put down. It's like they're born with hardened hearts. I wish the holocaust would have happened, and globally so.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Judaism as a religion should be ridiculed into oblivion. Not even they believe that silliness, they just use it to justify tribal warfare.

          • 2 months ago
            Sage

            God flooded the earth, and saved Noah, because he was the only one who was perfect in all his generations, aka he hadn't corrupted his DNA. Maybe the cannanites were also corrupted DNA beings, maybe modern israelites are as well.

            Once you take the mark of the beast, an abomination that makes desolate, you are too far gone to be saved. Corrupting your DNA seems to be on that level.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why does DNA matter? If I could take a pill that would change my DNA but everything else stayed the same why would it matter if I took the pill or not

          • 2 months ago
            Sage

            Fallen angels are known evil. Evil above the evil a human is capable of. If you mix with their DNA you are now evil. Doesn't matter if your the offsping of a fallen angel or if they found a way to inject you with their evil DNA. You have become an abomination. Abominations must be wiped. Simple as.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Evil
            >Simple as

            how do you cross the us ought gap?
            is statements will never be able to deduce into an ought statement unless you're defining ought as some kind of is statement.

            Give me a syllogism with 2 premises that have is statements and a conclusion that has an ought statement that successfully crosses the is ought gap

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Fallen angels are known evil. Evil above the evil a human is capable of. If you mix with their DNA you are now evil. Doesn't matter if your the offsping of a fallen angel or if they found a way to inject you with their evil DNA. You have become an abomination. Abominations must be wiped. Simple as.

            For example
            That man is a judge
            That judge is a liar

            The judge ought not lie

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            And no judge's shouldn't inherently be truthful. It's my preference that judges should be as truthful as possible yes but that's me creating a sperate premise it doesn't cross the is ought gap

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            this debate club shit is meaningless, it's wrong for the judge to lie, there's no argument about it

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Christians use presuppositional logical parlor tricks all the time. To be fair I haven't seen anyone ITT do the whole "what's your standard for Truth" thing yet but it's not like atheists are the only one's doing the debate club shit

          • 2 months ago
            Sage

            [...]
            For example
            That man is a judge
            That judge is a liar

            The judge ought not lie

            And no judge's shouldn't inherently be truthful. It's my preference that judges should be as truthful as possible yes but that's me creating a sperate premise it doesn't cross the is ought gap

            You don't have to be the judge, so there is no gap to cross.

            God wipes out those with corrupted DNA.
            Ergo, have corrupted DNA, get wiped. Simple as.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ought god not wipe out those with certain DNA solely on the basis of their genetic makeup?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            mRNA vaccine

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, it's also interesting if you look at things like the book of Enoch and Jasher/Giants. Also there are recorded chronicles even by Greek and Roman sources of people like Simiramis saying that she (and one of her parents) were part god and her progeny keeping some of the demigod blood. Didn't Herodotus say something like the Babylonians would lock a temple 'virgin' into one of the temples once per year to get impregnated by a spirit that would manifest? I forget which one, I think it may have been the dragon god. There was also that stele they found on Mt. Hermon that they quickly removed and brought to the U.K. under probably a rothschild-owned museum. And if iirc, one of the largest U.N. buildings is built where they found the stele and old sacrificial altars to the 200 watchers.
            There's so many fricky things that people just want to disregard like it's nothing. Why are all the richest and most powerful people in the world, who don't even allow their or their families' names to appear on wealth lists, care so much about these things?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not against abortion. In certain instances abortion should be mandated. In other scenarios women should be encouraged to consider other possibilities. However abortion should always be an option for them.

          Just find it funny how Christians are against abortion when their own God commanded infant sacrifice multiplie times and he also sacrificed his only son. Irony.

          Abortion DEBATE | Richard Spencer Vs Tik Tok Star Kendon Fahr | Debate Podcast https://odysee.com/@ModernDayDebate:7/abortion-debate-richard-spencer-vs-tik:8?t=1401

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          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >However abortion should always be an option for them.
            How on Earth did they convince people that killing a baby is acceptable as long as it's in the womb? The womb is where the baby is supposed to be safest.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            How on earth did you become convinced that every life on earth is equal to another? Are you some kind of communist? A child conceived of rape isn't innocent. It's half a rapist.

            Abortion DEBATE | Richard Spencer Vs Tik Tok Star Kendon Fahr | Debate Podcast https://odysee.com/@ModernDayDebate:7/abortion-debate-richard-spencer-vs-tik:8?t=1401

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That’s twisted as frick. I like how you atheists claim to be moral yet have the most twisted possible ideologies.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That’s twisted as frick. I like how you atheists claim to be moral yet have the most twisted possible ideologies.

            He's obviously trolling nobody really claims the unborn aren't innocent.
            The argument is something like this

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >WHAT WILL BE THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE SUPREME COURT'S ABORTION DECISION?

            Nothing because it's still legal in all fifty states. Wait nvm people pretend it's illegal and both sides fundraise off it

            Generally I would agree with you, i've met Blacks that reject their own race and spend all their time among whites and other Blacks like them, generally being productive people. I have never seen that with a israelite, I have only wanted to smash and destroy israelites, something about them is so deeply rooted in evil that it needs to be put down. It's like they're born with hardened hearts. I wish the holocaust would have happened, and globally so.

            Idk I remember Patrick little said he had a close israeli friend who approved of what he was doing.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Specious, baseless and self indulgent arguments. Just another day’s work for an atheist. “Do not lay a hand on his head!”

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That’s twisted as frick. I like how you atheists claim to be moral yet have the most twisted possible ideologies.

            >However abortion should always be an option for them.
            How on Earth did they convince people that killing a baby is acceptable as long as it's in the womb? The womb is where the baby is supposed to be safest.

            "Numerous embryos develop naturally in the womb and then spontaneously abort (the woman’s period is “late”). In fact, geneticists believe that perhaps the majority of conceptions spontaneously abort. It would be interesting to hear what Pro-Lifers have to say about that.According to their own dubious reasoning, everything that happens “naturally” is God’s will. Wouldn’t this mean that God aborts vast numbers of embryos and fetuses? It’s an inescapable conclusion. And if God commits abortion, then how could it be a terrible sin against God? I see no way out of this contradiction. Embryos and fetuses that spontaneously abort are usually defective, often with chromosomal abnormalities, so maybe this gives us a clue into God’s intention. Maybe Goddoesn’t wantdefective fetuses coming to term and becoming defective children. And if God is a eugenicist, would it be so wrong for us to follow God’s lead and only deliver healthy babies?"

            https://counter-currents.com/2015/03/heretical-thoughts-on-abortion-and-eugenics/

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I get what they're saying but equating yourself with God and basically saying "if God can do it, why can't we?" is extremely arrogant and completely lacking in humility.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            God also commands child sacrifice multiple times and sacrifices his only son. Hard to interpret.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            And his son rose again on the third day. You forgot that bit.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            OK so he makes an pseudo-exception for himself. But everyone else has to sacrifice their first born son for thousands of years in the old testament. Why? Infant sacrifice was part of the original ten commandments:

            Exodus 34:19
            19“The first offspringof every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock.20Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck.Redeem all your firstborn sons. No one is to appear before me empty-handed."

            Why?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            And what does it mean to “belong to God”? You’ve never even read the Bible . Why do you hate a book that you’ve never bothered to read?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You are talking about the ransom, which has nothing to do with child sacrifice, you fricking idiot.
            When the first born child reached the age of 13, the parents would go to the temple with a silver shekel and give it to the priests, and buy their children back from God. This is written about extensively in subsequent verses, which you conveniently ignore, you piece of shit.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            was reddit a bit slow today?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Natural death is a terrible thing but it happens. If a man dies of cancer or in an accident a great evil has occurred but that is a natural evil that all men face. God, as the architect of all life, has sole ownership over those lives to do with as he pleases. He made it very clear that man is not to attempt to take what is God’s. You are very much mistaken about the nature of God if you think he is held to the same standards as men. God is he who holds standards, there is none above him to judge him. Many great saints have been terribly deformed such as St. Margaret of Città di Castello who was abandoned by her parents because of her blindness and curved spine. The world would have lost an incredible woman if she had been murdered as an infant.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ok but why did God command child sacrifice for thousands of years in the old testament though? We can't judge him for that? I seek answers.

            Child Sacrifice in Ancient Israel: Interview with Dr. Heath Dewrell https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MIczpFlhv3E

            Exodus 22:29-30
            New International Version
            29“Do not hold back offeringsfrom your granaries or your vats.“ You must give me the firstborn of your sons.30Do the same with your cattle and your sheep.Let them stay with their mothers for seven days, but give them to me on the eighth day.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Ok but why did God command child sacrifice for thousands of years in the old testament though?
            You fricking liar.
            God never demanded child sacrifice in the bible. He saw it as an abomination. The verses you referenced are God saying, "I own your kids," to prevent the Israelites from sacrificing them to Baal/Moloch.
            "I own your kids and you are going to buy them back from me when they reach the age of 13."
            There is a special place in hell for people like you.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ok where does it say that the parents can buy the kids back? Because if you take an infant away from its mother when it's 8 days old it will die due to lack of breastmilk. There was no formula back then.

            Exodus 22:29-30
            New International Version
            29“Do not hold back offeringsfrom your granaries or your vats.“ You must give me the firstborn of your sons.30Do the same with your cattle and your sheep.Let them stay with their mothers for seven days, but give them to me on the eighth day.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What does it mean to give your firstborn to God? God already owns everyone. When we give something to God we’re simply aligning our wills with his. When the Israelites gave a lamb to God they slaughtered it. When they have a man to God they consecrated him. Both gifts, but the giving is different. These are very simple ideas that you are choosing not to understand.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >These are very simple ideas that you are choosing not to understand.
            He's doing this shit on purpose. There's no point in even talking to him.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I know. It’s sad. I rarely comment on this sight, I just troll for the random bits of news that squeaks past the shilling. But sometimes I just gotta try to explain the faith because maybe someday that might mean something.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What does it mean to give a sheep to God?

            Exodus 13:1-2
            New International Version
            13TheLordsaid to Moses,2“Consecrate to me every firstborn male.The first offspring of every womb among the Israelites belongs to me, whether human or animal.”

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            To kill if. What does it mean to give your love to God? Certainly it doesn’t mean to kill it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Ok where does it say that the parents can buy the kids back? Because if you take an infant away from its mother when it's 8 days old it will die due to lack of breastmilk.
            The kid stays with the parents, you fricking moron. God is telling them that they can't hurt the child because He owns it until the kid reaches adulthood (which was the age of 13 back then). Go read the bible, which you clearly haven't. You are just misrepresenting fragments of scriptures so you can promote your vile ideology. Frick off.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ok can you list the bible verses that say that for us? I haven't read the bible cover-to-cover, have you? I listed the ones I'm concerned about in Exodus. I'm also concerned about this one:

            JUDGES 11:
            34 When Jephthah returned to his home in Mizpah, who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of timbrels! She was an only child. Except for her he had neither son nor daughter. 35 When he saw her, he tore his clothes and cried, “Oh no, my daughter! You have brought me down and I am devastated. I have made a vow to the Lord that I cannot break.”

            36 “My father,” she replied, “you have given your word to the Lord. Do to me just as you promised, now that the Lord has avenged you of your enemies, the Ammonites. 37 But grant me this one request,” she said. “Give me two months to roam the hills and weep with my friends, because I will never marry.”

            38 “You may go,” he said. And he let her go for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never marry. 39 After the two months, she returned to her father, and he did to her as he had vowed. And she was a virgin.

            From this comes the Israelite tradition 40 that each year the young women of Israel go out for four days to commemorate the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I HAVE read the Bible cover to cover multiple times and the message is abundantly clear for anyone who wants to know it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ok can you list the verse so I can change my mind? I listed mine.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You listed an Israeli custom and the story of a woman sacrificing of herself for the glory of God. I have no argument against any word from scripture. If I listed the versus that speak to the goodness and justice of God I’d have to post the entire Bible. But if you need one: John 1:1-5

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not telling you shit.
            Go read the bible instead of cherry picking verses that you can spin and misrepresent. It's in there and the message is very clear to anyone who isn't evil or a complete moron.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            He did not command child sacrifice. He commanded that certain peoples be wiped out, but then he allowed them to live on nonetheless. If God had wanted all the canaanites dead they would have immediately died. Again, God has every authority to order a man killed. And none of that was “sacrifice.” In fact if you actually read the Bible instead of just context-blind fishing through it you’d know the several versus where he specifically outlaws human sacrifice. And before you bring up Christ, understand that Christ is both man and God. He’s the ladder upon which men ascend to heaven, having both his natures firmly rooted in their respective domains, in common with man on earth but also divine in heaven.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            batshit

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Says you, but you arent God.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Hi israelite, just so you know the true faith of Abraham: those verses are commanding that all first born sons be consecrated to God in the temple/tabernacle. They were never made to be burnt offering sacrifices. But you didn't know that because you are not of Abraham. Your father is Cain, the son of Satan. There is still time for you to repent and be saved. I will pray for you.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Richard Spencer
            Anon, I...
            Seriously, you should KYS if you can listen to that moron for more than 15seconds.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why do people who have an extremely superficial understanding of Christianity attempt to tell actual Christians what to believe.
          The God you speak of is the Old Testament. Jesus came to earth to tell us to embrace all life. That his death was the sacrifice to end all human sacrifice.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because it's an internal critique of your worldview.
            That's great but Jesus is still the same being who ordered the killing of the Canaanite children at one point. He was still all knowing and all powerful then was he not?

            abortion selectively targets a much higher % of would-be criminals since abortions are disproportionately sought by minority single mothers

            it's literally one of the few good preventative measures we employ

            I saw the Richard debate anon(the one with zen Shapiro and Richard) he made the same argument there and I hear him.
            But you could justify killing anyone on welfare unemployed etc etc for precrimes with that logic. Richard did horrible in the debate and admitted he was hypocrite. He's a scumbag

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Crooked arguments. Humans have free will. God sent his only begotten son to show humanity that they were on the wrong path again and again.
            The worshiped the golden calf
            They sacrificed children
            They did all those things because God “told” them. But Jesus said God didn’t tell them. He said you are wrong.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >what's the justification supposed to be
          God justifies, not us. While we seek to justify things they cant make sense but when we let go of that urge things start to come together.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's literally just might makes right.
            My preferences, God's preferences or the preferences of a homeless guy who smokes crack. It's all subjective/mind dependent whether it's God's mind or mind
            How does the ten commandments cross the is ought gap any more than anon(me)'s one commandment "thou shalt smoke meth everyday"
            Saying the is and ought come from the same source (god) doesn't cross the is ought gap either.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It's God's mind or *my mind

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Of course it’s might makes right, or rather Might makes right. Since God is the mightiest, who else is there to judge what’s right and wrong?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Me. If I'm alone in a room with someone way bigger and stronger and they try to rape me and beat me to death I'm still going to think they're a scumbag even if I can't possibly beat them.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Of course you will because the Mightiest has judged those actions to be evil. No man is might compared to God. The weakest cripple and the strongest man in the world are equally and infinitely inferior to God. There is no comparison between God and man. Most of atheism is a refusal to consider God as he is and to instead consider him as just another man.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Of course you will because the Mightiest has judged those actions to be evil.

            It's because it's my preference. As for why I have that preference it's probably a mix of genetics culture environment and maybe also free will which I guess I'm agnostic on.

            You can compare literally anything or anyone to anything or anyone else

            Yes it is might makes right. True might is Gods. Its understandable that many are confused by the churches negligence whereby they passed Christianity off as a weak and pathetic thing. As for the commandments, Im about to make a lot of people mad, it is written that no word that leaves Gods mouth will return to him void, in otherwords what ever God has spoken is such a force of law that it can not be broken. Thou shall have no other Gods before me? Theres only one God, it can not be done regardless of what ever delusion a person subscribes to. Thou shall not kill? Cant do it. You could destroy a body but not the soul, the soul lives eternally. Further, and this is the freedom of the Gospel, who is so strong or so wise that they can do something that God hasnt ordained? If someone kills another, shame on them for choosing to be a vessel of offense, but they do not own that death, and guilt that is picked up because of what was done in the past necessarily disagrees with what God has said.

            A whole lot of people misrepresent what is written in the bible for their own purposes, to make themselves righteous "Im doing the things, Im a good boy", they dont care about the truth they just look to justify their own sin and to be able to tell others that they are living wrong.

            So I'm unable to choose to covet my neighbors car? I don't know how you can say that unless you're a Calvinist or something and believe I have no free will

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sure, strictly speaking you can compare man to God in the sense that man is infinitely less than God. Aren’t you aware that your preference, which you admit plainly is based on extremely limited information, may be less valid than God’s preference who is the creator of all information?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Infinitely less in what way?

            I think all preferences are equally "valid".
            I may disagree with them but they're still "valid"

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            In every single conceivable way.

            Moral relativism is the impossible ideology. If you claim it’s the right idea then you claim it’s superiority to other ideas by virtue of its rightness compared to the others wrongness. No human being who has ever lived even attempts to think in terms of relative morality unless they are currently in a discussion about morality, and even then they have the sense of superiority that comes with any contrarian position, a sense that by its very nature contradicts the belief they claim to have.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I still don't see how his morals are infinitely more valid then mine if he can't cross the is ought gap
            >superiority to other ideas by virtue of its rightness compared to the others wrongness.

            I can claim it's better just as I could claim vanilla is better than chocolate.
            I don't see the contradiction

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            How is it better? Ice cream is judged by the standard of flavor, which is as close to opinion as things get, although there is still some objectivity because no one enjoys the flavor of pure capsaicin. So how about faith and morals? By what criteria are you claiming one is better to the other? Ice cream is actually a great metaphors because your tongue is what does the judging, and it is absolute at least in the moment. Unlike mens tastebuds however, God, who is the criteria by which faith and morals are judged, does not change.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Someone could enjoy the flavor of capsaicin it's logically possible. But even if no one did saying something like "capsaicin is objectively bad tasting" doesn't make sense because I define objective as mind independent. If zero minds existed how could capsaicin taste bad? Some people enjoy pain
            >By what criteria are you claiming one is better to the other?

            If I claim pacifism is better than murder it's my preference and I'd say it's the exact same thing as chocolate and vanilla. I don't know how else to say it
            >Ice cream is actually a great metaphors because your tongue is what does the judging, and it is absolute at least in the moment.

            A tongue on it's own can't have a preference you need a mind/brain. Not trying to be pedantic but if my tongue were surgically altered so things tasted the opposite of the way they did before I'd start liking and disliking certain foods
            >Unlike mens tastebuds however, God, who is the criteria by which faith and morals are judged, does not change.

            Idk if this is true. In the beginning of the Bible and at the end god seems to be acting and speaking differently though I haven't read it cover to cover.
            Even if his preferences never change for his entire existence so what?
            A mind other than God's could logically have the same preferences for it's entire existence

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            By what criteria do you judge pacifism to be better than barbarism? Your mind is only informed about taste by the olfactory senses. You can have a preference, but it’s only based on the objective information received from the senses.

            A man who enjoys his mouth and throat covered in blisters? Surgically altered taste buds? Zero extant minds? None of that is reality. It’s no wonder you don’t know how to say it! No one knows how to properly explain nonsense!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >By what criteria do you judge pacifism to be better than barbarism?

            You're asking why I have that preference? Culture, biology, etc.
            The criteria I choose is just going to be another arbitrary preference
            >Your mind is only informed about taste by the olfactory senses.

            Mine is I guess but someone else could be unable to taste or smell but still have someone else try to explain it to them.
            >You can have a preference, but it’s only based on the objective information received from the senses.

            That's definitely at least part/all of it but I guess the mind itself which is subjective is also part of it?
            >A man who enjoys his mouth and throat covered in blisters?

            Some people enjoy pain.i don't want to get too graphic but they obviously exist some people like different pain then others
            >Surgically altered taste buds?

            Yeah seems possible at least logically.
            >Zero extant minds?

            Putting nukes in every volcano would get rid of all minds or at least all the minds on earth
            >None of that is reality.

            It's hypotheticals to test logical consistency.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Utter nonsense isn’t a test of something’s consistency. Logic as a mathematical system for making arguments. If the premises are false the conclusion is invalid regardless of its following from invalid premises. A ^ B .: C is only valid if both A and B are true.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Things like the laws of logic. Idk doing an internal critique of someone else's worldview and looking for a violation of the law of non contradiction?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The rules of propositional logic are well documented if you actually want to learn them. Contradiction isn’t the only attribute of an invalid argument. However, it is a key aspect and your claim that relativistic morality is “better” is by your own words not a position based on reason, rather on circumstances beyond your control. Here’s an argument:
            A. Reason is the the act of considering facts together to come to discover new facts
            B. Environment, genetics, and “I feel like it” are not attributes of things defined by the definition given in A.
            C. It has been said that relativistic morality (said by you) has the attributes of B and is therefore not covered by A.
            D. A believe not based on reason is unreasonable.
            A^ B ^ C ^ D .: relativistic morality is unreasonable.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm starting to get to a point where this isn't something I'm too familiar with. That being said,

            >Environment, genetics, and “I feel like it” are not attributes of things defined by the definition given in A.

            Why not?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Is the environment a person considering two facts and from them reasoning a third fact? Is generics a person considering two facts and from them reasoning a third fact? Is “I feel like it” a person considering two facts and from then reasoning a third fact? If you have no idea what logic is and have little ability to follow an argument then what makes you think any of your positions are reasonable?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Is the environment a person considering two facts and from them reasoning a third fact?

            No? But the environment would help determine what facts they'd be considering I guess
            >Is generics a person considering two facts and from them reasoning a third fact? Is “I feel like it” a person considering two facts and from then reasoning a third fact?

            Same as above.
            If you have no idea what logic is and have little ability to follow an argument then what makes you think any of your positions are reasonable?

            I'm just doing my best. I could have faith in PHD in philosophy degree having atheists/agnostics or faith in PHD in philosophy degree having Christians but either way I don't fully understand all of it. I just have to listen to both sides and see which one makes more sense to me given whatever of it I can understand

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Trust me, the people you’ve listened to that make you think that since they’re smart then you can be smart by listening to them also have no idea about (or concern with) logic, reason and following arguments. They’re liars and cheaters from the beginning. You should stop listening to people who hate you.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I like to listen to debates mostly.

            "Is" is a state of being, while "ought" is a declaration of a state of lack (its not currently the way it ought to be). You are currently alive, your state of being is alive, its not a question of whether you ought to live rather than die but rather that you are alive, will you declare it good or not? If you declare it not to be good to be alive that declaration calls your entire state of being into question. Well, if it isnt good to be alive then why are you alive, you being able to judge good and evil?

            Christianity, in its current form, is itself confused on this. Being as that is, and knowing that I was once very wrong, I cant at all fault you for these disagreements. But, that is the very core of my discussion, disagreement with what is in lieu of agreement with what ought, is the sin that prevents us from seeing who we truly are. I dont care if anyone agrees with me, I care that they come to know who they truly are. There can be no subjectivity in it or there is disagreement with what is. And the truth, is beyond question. Therefor, what is true? This is for each man to prove on his own, taking no other mans word for it. "Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling" thats what that means, make finding the truth, and allowing no room for falsehood or half-truth, of such importance that it causes you to tremble. Seek and ye shall find, everyone has heard this but few actually try it.

            >rather than die but rather that you are alive, will you declare it good or not?

            Personally I'd declare it good at least for now.
            >If you declare it not to be good to be alive that declaration calls your entire state of being into question.

            If someone has a preference to be dead despite being alive? What if they're restrained in a psych ward?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'll put this more simply: the truth is good. If it is true that someone is in a psych ward then it is good that they are there. Good has nothing to do with how someone feels about a situation, feelings are subjective and thus have nothing to do with what is objective.

            It wouldn't surprise me honestly
            [...]
            >Yes, that is the trap that many fall into. But it harms no one but themselves. If I declare that I cant forgive then I myself am not forgiven.

            Only because you believe you require Christ for forgiveness. Otherwise you could seek and receive forgiveness from your victims and still not forgive anyone whose victimized you
            >If the past holds any sway over us at all then we make ourselves prisoners to it.

            I think it does whether we want it to or not. You're still on the hook for student loans regardless of whether you like it or not right?
            >Even when something terrible happened, what is accomplished by holding a grudge outside of tormented thoughts?

            You can seek revenge which may feel good. It can also prevent them from hurting others. If someone stole something from you and you take something from them to get even you'll be less poor.
            >Can an honest conversation be had with someone to whom everything is subjective?

            Absolutely. Two people who are materialist atheists who are moral subjectivists can have a good faith debate and one can be beaten and concede and have their mind changed. You're supposed to point out hypocrisy in the other person's position
            Here's an example https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zkH3vrevU9o
            >If what the word lesser means cant be agreed upon what basis for a coherent discussion can be found?

            Hopefully they do agree. I don't think I could reason with someone like Stalin but I could try to convince him that his own chances of being murdered are reduced by not murdering millions. But he could say oh well I'm willing to take that chance
            >Such preconceived notions are like the intellectual equivalent of a wile e coyote contraption, it looks like a goal is about to be achieved but is it ever? Im not talking down on that thinking, I fell into it to a ridiculous degree and for a long while, but honest examination will show that there are massive flaws in it.

            I don't really see them

            >the world doesnt forgive debt therefor...
            Judging things by what is seen in the world is a very shallow view that doesnt lead anywhere in particular.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >If it is true that someone is in a psych ward then it is good that they are there.

            What the hell are you talking about?
            If a woman tells her therapist she's about to get an abortion she won't be prosecuted or involuntarily hospitalized in any of the fifty states. If a man tells his therapist he's thinking of going to an abortion clinic to do X he'll immediately be involuntarily hospitalized.
            You think this is ideal?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Its not about what any of us think. When we try to rationalize things we are always wrong no matter how right it might seem. Are you alive right now? Then it is good. Are you in a shitty situation right now? Then it is good. When we say it is bad, we are saying it is bad only. If something has a just a tinge of bad it can not be called objectively good, and therefor it is objectively bad. And when we do this we are also saying that no good can come from it, because good can not come from bad. And by doing so lock ourselves into a cycle of things being shit. This is free will. Will you be good or evil, if good then even what seems shit is only for your good. This cant make sense to anyone that limits their thoughts to this world, because, like youve suggested, this world declares that what is good is subjective to circumstance. The truth is that circumstance has no bearing on what is good. Are you made to be good or evil? Your choice. You shall be fruitful and multiply. Not your choice, it is decreed by God, whether you choose good or evil you will be abundantly fruitful in your choice.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >If I claim pacifism is better than murder it's my preference and I'd say it's the exact same thing as chocolate and vanilla. I don't know how else to say it
            Morality is a trap of an ideology. There is objective good and there is objective evil. The idea that morality could be subjective is itself evil. And a lot of it stems from people finding part of their identity in morality "I know what is good and what is evil". You cant know both. You either know good or you know what seems good but is actually tainted with evil. While men seek to take hold of the knowledge of evil, as if they could prevent further evil by doing so, what little good they know is inherently perverted.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >There is objective good and there is objective evil.

            Like what? It's objectively good for a being to flourish and objectively bad for a being to wither? Why is that an objective fact and not a subjective preference?
            Humes law?
            Can you cross the is ought gap?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, life is objectively better than death.
            >humes law
            I dont see what that has to do with anything that Ive said. Nothing Ive said is in terms of "ought to be", Im talking about what is. Whether or not you or anyone else wants to accept what is does not change what is. On the contrary the argumentation that if God is real and only good then evil ought not to exist runs afoul of your own logic. And objective good is, the idea that it ought to be subjective is subjective in itself and going so far as to declare "I ought to be able to choose what is good and evil".

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >life is objectively better than death.

            No it's not. I don't even necessarily subjectively agree with this I can think of fates worse than death though that's obviously my preference.
            Another way you could phrase what you just said is
            >If given the choice you always ought live rather than die

            You're saying we ought to live.
            >Whether or not you or anyone else wants to accept what is does not change what is.

            I agree with this but only if you're not defining is as ought.
            Yes if I say this cube has a mass of 20 grams that's objectively true. The cube is 20 grams whether I accept it or not. It's objectively/mind independently True
            >God is real and only good then evil ought not to exist runs afoul of your own logic.

            I don't think I brought up the problem of evil/wild animal suffering or anything like that. I don't agree that God is objectively all Good even if he is real

            Yes I have a preference to decide what is right and wrong.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            "Is" is a state of being, while "ought" is a declaration of a state of lack (its not currently the way it ought to be). You are currently alive, your state of being is alive, its not a question of whether you ought to live rather than die but rather that you are alive, will you declare it good or not? If you declare it not to be good to be alive that declaration calls your entire state of being into question. Well, if it isnt good to be alive then why are you alive, you being able to judge good and evil?

            Christianity, in its current form, is itself confused on this. Being as that is, and knowing that I was once very wrong, I cant at all fault you for these disagreements. But, that is the very core of my discussion, disagreement with what is in lieu of agreement with what ought, is the sin that prevents us from seeing who we truly are. I dont care if anyone agrees with me, I care that they come to know who they truly are. There can be no subjectivity in it or there is disagreement with what is. And the truth, is beyond question. Therefor, what is true? This is for each man to prove on his own, taking no other mans word for it. "Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling" thats what that means, make finding the truth, and allowing no room for falsehood or half-truth, of such importance that it causes you to tremble. Seek and ye shall find, everyone has heard this but few actually try it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You should just stop engaging with this butthole. He's using Order Of 9 Angles debating tactics to frick with you:

            Infinitely less in what way?

            I think all preferences are equally "valid".
            I may disagree with them but they're still "valid"

            Look them up, they're evil as frick.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What’s with you memeflags and telling people not to engage with other people? You were just telling me not to engage with some else.
            >order of 9 angles
            ?????

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It being impossible to kill the soul has nothing to do with free will. One who kills a body still had the choice to do it or not. Matthew 18:7 KJV — Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
            We have the choice whether we will be vessels of righteousness or wickedness. But we do not gave the power to kill. As for thou shall not covet, you raise a good point. We tend to see coveting as simply desiring and nothing more, but what is desired in the heart is delivered by God, but what was given to someone else can not be delivered into your hand because it is theirs and God isnt an indian giver.

            Regardless, dont take my word for it, ask God to explain these things to you. And then after you do that and receive that understanding, ask yourself have you ever heard a church or "holier than thou christian" say anything like this? Deception runs deep.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >your response to other anon
            I appreciate where you are. You are closer to knowing God than you realize. Look into what is called the fruit of the spirit and when you do ask yourself if you could have been mislead to not understand what those words truly mean. And I got something for you to think about: the first time I prayed it was after seeing some horrible stuff happen and I said "why are things like this? How could there be a God if such evil is allowed to happen? Or if there is a God and he lets this happen then he must be an butthole. God, if you are real and good and just and worthy of following then prove it to me and I will follow you" and, well, he proved it to me so much that there is nothing anyone could ever say to change my mind. There is a God and he is only good. That is faith.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I've been there too anon but I'm only left with more questions. Lot's of maybes and possible coincidences

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes it is might makes right. True might is Gods. Its understandable that many are confused by the churches negligence whereby they passed Christianity off as a weak and pathetic thing. As for the commandments, Im about to make a lot of people mad, it is written that no word that leaves Gods mouth will return to him void, in otherwords what ever God has spoken is such a force of law that it can not be broken. Thou shall have no other Gods before me? Theres only one God, it can not be done regardless of what ever delusion a person subscribes to. Thou shall not kill? Cant do it. You could destroy a body but not the soul, the soul lives eternally. Further, and this is the freedom of the Gospel, who is so strong or so wise that they can do something that God hasnt ordained? If someone kills another, shame on them for choosing to be a vessel of offense, but they do not own that death, and guilt that is picked up because of what was done in the past necessarily disagrees with what God has said.

            A whole lot of people misrepresent what is written in the bible for their own purposes, to make themselves righteous "Im doing the things, Im a good boy", they dont care about the truth they just look to justify their own sin and to be able to tell others that they are living wrong.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            ...and heaven forbid you tell woman shes living wrong. you have to pray for her instead

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            But not everyone is a utilitarian? Maybe I'm taking it too literally

            It being impossible to kill the soul has nothing to do with free will. One who kills a body still had the choice to do it or not. Matthew 18:7 KJV — Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
            We have the choice whether we will be vessels of righteousness or wickedness. But we do not gave the power to kill. As for thou shall not covet, you raise a good point. We tend to see coveting as simply desiring and nothing more, but what is desired in the heart is delivered by God, but what was given to someone else can not be delivered into your hand because it is theirs and God isnt an indian giver.

            Regardless, dont take my word for it, ask God to explain these things to you. And then after you do that and receive that understanding, ask yourself have you ever heard a church or "holier than thou christian" say anything like this? Deception runs deep.

            If I'm not desiring my neighbors car in my heart where am I desiring it and what's the difference between that desire and a desire delivered by God?
            What if my neighbor stole that car and it's not really "his"?

            You should just stop engaging with this butthole. He's using Order Of 9 Angles debating tactics to frick with you:
            [...]

            Look them up, they're evil as frick.

            I'm not even sure if I've ever heard of them before lol. I might have but I don't know anything about them
            I'm sure I'd probably agree but that's just my preference. Even if they're hypocrites it's my preference to be logically consistent

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            look up bike cuck, thats bike cucks son

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I've seen that cartoon too. I guess he's a utilitarian but he doesn't include in his happiness sad calculation the effect it has on society to normalize bike theft you have to control for that too

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >If I'm not desiring my neighbors car in my heart where am I desiring it and what's the difference between that desire and a desire delivered by God?
            Things get a little hard to understand here. Some people innately grasp it and others need to work for it, and it seems like for some it is impossible. What is desire? And how do we quantify what it is that we are currently desiring? Any thought on the heart is a desire, some people think all day long about how miserable their lives are and never stop to consider that they are literally asking for more misery. Looking at what someone else has and then thinking "I want their stuff" ultimately boils down to a self betrayal if we have any thoughts at all along the lines of possessions it should be "I want my stuff". Everything currently in a persons life is their stuff and it is all given by God.
            >but I have things in my life that really suck
            Yea, but these are not as punishment (no matter how much the bible thumpers would declare it) but rather as a call to repentance. If you have a garden you cared about and there are weeds in it and the good plants are starting to die, youd probably get to work removing the weeds. Thats easy, what people tend to have a hard time with is if their job sucks, and their family is in disarray, and there are so many things that look like death in their day to day lives.. very few stop to wonder if weeds have been allowed to grow in their life.

            That teaching is easy to be tempted away towards the ideology of self betterment. A person can improve their lives and remove the bad, but the ills of the past still remain taunting them. This is unforgiven sin and while we dont accept Jesus and what he did there is no path by which we can travel toward true forgiveness of the past. Only acceptance of the blood of a perfect sacrifice can give us the audacity to forgive ourselves.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Everything currently in a persons life is their stuff and it is all given by God.

            If I stole someone else's wallet and had it in my pocket is that wallet given to me by God?

            >but the ills of the past still remain taunting them.

            Not always. Some people do immoral things (things they think are immoral) and don't feel guilty. Sometimes they just forget and move on
            >This is unforgiven sin

            Or it's just chemicals in the brain?
            >and while we dont accept Jesus and what he did there is no path by which we can travel toward true forgiveness of the past.

            I can think of alternatives. You could make reparations to your victims and say sorry and hope they forgive you.
            Or you could choose a different religion for your repentance
            >Only acceptance of the blood of a perfect sacrifice can give us the audacity to forgive ourselves.

            I disagree

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >If I stole someone else's wallet and had it in my pocket is that wallet given to me by God?
            God causes it to rain on the just and the unjust, that is not reason to live unjustly, it is all the more reason to live a just life.

            >Not always. Some people do immoral things (things they think are immoral) and don't feel guilty. Sometimes they just forget and move on
            They can say they feel no guilt but denial does not make it true.

            >Or it's just chemicals in the brain?
            You could say that, but if you, even for a moment, put entirely earnest thought into whether or not there could be a higher power controlling all things, you will find reason to revisit that thinking

            >I can think of alternatives. You could make reparations to your victims and say sorry and hope they forgive you.
            True forgiveness is given freely, and once forgiven forgotten entirely never to be mentioned again. If you could accept that true forgiveness is the past being rewritten as if it never happened.. "Yea bro its ok I forgive you" is not sufficient.
            >Or you could choose a different religion for your repentance
            Doesnt matter what someone calls themselves, there is only one God above whom there is no other. Why would anyone worship something lesser?
            >>Only acceptance of the blood of a perfect sacrifice can give us the audacity to forgive ourselves.
            >I disagree
            Thats ok. Id rather you explore the things Ive said a bit before disregarding them entirely but thats your choice.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >They can say they feel no guilt but denial does not make it true.

            I assume some of them actually don't feel guilty.
            >there could be a higher power controlling all things, you will find reason to revisit that thinking

            I agree there could be. I'm agnostic
            >True forgiveness is given freely, and once forgiven forgotten entirely never to be mentioned again. If you could accept that true forgiveness is the past being rewritten as if it never happened.. "Yea bro its ok I forgive you" is not sufficient.

            That's your/God's preferred type of freedom. some victims might prefer more from their abusers than you do
            >Why would anyone worship something lesser?

            Because they disagree about what lesser means

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >some victims might prefer more from their abusers than you do
            Yes, that is the trap that many fall into. But it harms no one but themselves. If I declare that I cant forgive then I myself am not forgiven.
            >what if someone never did anything wrong how could they be unforgiven
            If the past holds any sway over us at all then we make ourselves prisoners to it. Even when something terrible happened, what is accomplished by holding a grudge outside of tormented thoughts?

            >disagree about what lesser means
            Can an honest conversation be had with someone to whom everything is subjective? If what the word lesser means cant be agreed upon what basis for a coherent discussion can be found? Such preconceived notions are like the intellectual equivalent of a wile e coyote contraption, it looks like a goal is about to be achieved but is it ever? Im not talking down on that thinking, I fell into it to a ridiculous degree and for a long while, but honest examination will show that there are massive flaws in it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          God is always correct, so if he wants to wipe out the philistines, Canaanites or sodomites then he is good and just to do it. For example, a lot of prostitutes get the woman caught in adultery account in the Gospel wrong. Jesus asks for he who is without sin to cast the first stone. Who is without sin? Jesus, God incarnate, himself. If Jesus wanted to he could have totally stoned her right then and there. He chose to give her another chance to go and sin no more.

          But if she continued being a prostitute for another 20 years after Jesus spared her, what do you think the final judgement on her will be?

          So prostitutes who say "Only God can judge me." I say to them "yes and amen. He will."

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It’s because god is satan moron. God is evil.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It wouldn't surprise me honestly

            >some victims might prefer more from their abusers than you do
            Yes, that is the trap that many fall into. But it harms no one but themselves. If I declare that I cant forgive then I myself am not forgiven.
            >what if someone never did anything wrong how could they be unforgiven
            If the past holds any sway over us at all then we make ourselves prisoners to it. Even when something terrible happened, what is accomplished by holding a grudge outside of tormented thoughts?

            >disagree about what lesser means
            Can an honest conversation be had with someone to whom everything is subjective? If what the word lesser means cant be agreed upon what basis for a coherent discussion can be found? Such preconceived notions are like the intellectual equivalent of a wile e coyote contraption, it looks like a goal is about to be achieved but is it ever? Im not talking down on that thinking, I fell into it to a ridiculous degree and for a long while, but honest examination will show that there are massive flaws in it.

            >Yes, that is the trap that many fall into. But it harms no one but themselves. If I declare that I cant forgive then I myself am not forgiven.

            Only because you believe you require Christ for forgiveness. Otherwise you could seek and receive forgiveness from your victims and still not forgive anyone whose victimized you
            >If the past holds any sway over us at all then we make ourselves prisoners to it.

            I think it does whether we want it to or not. You're still on the hook for student loans regardless of whether you like it or not right?
            >Even when something terrible happened, what is accomplished by holding a grudge outside of tormented thoughts?

            You can seek revenge which may feel good. It can also prevent them from hurting others. If someone stole something from you and you take something from them to get even you'll be less poor.
            >Can an honest conversation be had with someone to whom everything is subjective?

            Absolutely. Two people who are materialist atheists who are moral subjectivists can have a good faith debate and one can be beaten and concede and have their mind changed. You're supposed to point out hypocrisy in the other person's position
            Here's an example https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zkH3vrevU9o
            >If what the word lesser means cant be agreed upon what basis for a coherent discussion can be found?

            Hopefully they do agree. I don't think I could reason with someone like Stalin but I could try to convince him that his own chances of being murdered are reduced by not murdering millions. But he could say oh well I'm willing to take that chance
            >Such preconceived notions are like the intellectual equivalent of a wile e coyote contraption, it looks like a goal is about to be achieved but is it ever? Im not talking down on that thinking, I fell into it to a ridiculous degree and for a long while, but honest examination will show that there are massive flaws in it.

            I don't really see them

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        God saves all. All who die will rise in the end. (Luke 3:6, 1 Corinthians 5:22)

        So he's not really murdering. He's just teleporting them to the afterlife.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Whats your supposed point? That it's hypocritical for God to have commanded the deaths of entire races, but for Christians to not want the unborn to be murdered en masse? The part you're missing is those canaanite babies who were smashed against rocks were done so at God's command. He can decide whether or not a person lives or dies, it's his domain, not yours, not mine, not some woman's who wants to kill her unborn child.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        And you believe this imply sacrifices of firstborn children ? Lmao what part of redeem did you miss?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      sadly, women aren't quite as mature as children

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ahh waking up that she murdered her kid for her own gain? even a witch can wake up. i hate israelites so much for pushing blood libel rituals like this and normalizing murder.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hate those who encourage this evil as much as the next Christ disciple, but the israelites, feminist prostitutes, and Satan worshippers were not subtle in their push for baby murder at all. Any woman or man who fell for it were already knee deep in hateful sin to begin with.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Your name will not be written in the book of life.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think I will put my faith in the word of a fricking leaf who has no faith at all. My faith is in Christ alone. He has saved all who call on his name.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Neither will yours, blasphemer.
          Where does a fricking leaf obtain the gall required to speak for the Lord?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Do not be surprised by the evil deeds of these evil men, brother. But take heart. The Lord Jesus will redeem all who endure in his name to the end as he said in the Gospel.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's a wicked lie. It's said some raise their children in a way where they encourage their kids to support abortion or are pro abortion. Sick

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >looks like his dad
      Amazing how this woman still fantasizes about the guy who knocked her up and refused to take responsibility, putting her in the situation that she felt forced to abort. Even this trauma doesn't affect her shit taste in men.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on the colour

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gonna assume she's white, because "Todd".

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Best post.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know if we'll ever be able to know. Apparently only about 5% of people are psychopaths so the rest should have at least some empathy.
    Then again look at all the people mad at the senator woman who shot her dog and wrote about it in her book yet almost all of those people pay for animals to be raped tortured and slaughtered in factory farms. Do they feel guilty about those cows and chickens?

    Do pro lifers feel guilty about abortion still being legal by pill up to twelve weeks in all fifty states? Do they feel guilty about pro life legislators killing abortion abolitionist bills that would have actually banned abortion for the mother?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >look at all the people mad at the senator woman who shot her dog and wrote about it
      We should've mandated that westerners wear clown wigs instead of masks in public.
      People are a okay with putting down a sick dog via lethal injection but if you dare involve a gun for the same purpose (infact probably faster, less painful and cheaper all around) they'll advocate for you to be imprisoned.
      Literal domesticated cattle.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I was more pointing out they supported factory farming through their purchasing habits

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You're grieving a potential future that you won't have anymore and that's valid and okay.

      I had the baby at 20, and while I love my son so much, a part of me grieves the life I couldve had. All of my dreams and school and potential future was shattered when I decided to keep him and not to get the abortion when I had the chance
      That is a woman from the comments, these people are reptiles.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You're grieving a potential future that you won't have anymore and that's valid and okay.
        >I had the baby at 20, and while I love my son so much, a part of me grieves the life I couldve had. All of my dreams and school and potential future was shattered when I decided to keep him and not to get the abortion when I had the chance

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >you don't understand, I NEEDED to be able to make powerpoint presentations, get fricked by random strangers, and die alone surrounded by cats!

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Next time some roastie is having a mental breakdown because of a miscarriage, just remind her that it's no different from an abortion so don't be so upset
    I haven't done this directly to said woman, but I have made comments to those around when it has been brought up. Just feign suprise and ask if they are anti abortion when they challenge you. Watch their collective heads spin when you say it's just a bundle of cells.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not that complicated anon

      >I wasn't ready to be a mother yet. I had to get an abortion

      >You're still a mother though. You're the mother of a dead child.

      Gonna assume she's white, because "Todd".

      Abortion is still murder even if the child is black.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Abortion is still murder even if the child is black.

        anti-abortion morons are Black person lovers and don't even hide it

        >"NOOO WE NEED MORE BLACK BABIES!!!! YOU CAN'T JUST ABORT A HUGE CHUNK OF YOUR CRIMINAL UNDERCLASS!!! WE NEED MORE 50 IQ Black folk TO BE BORN BECAUSE... WELL BECAUSE A israeli DESERT DEMON THAT LIVES IN THE SKY MIGHT BE MAD AT US IF WE DON'T OPEN UP OUR COLLECTIVE SOCIETAL buttholeS FOR Black person DICK AT ALL TIMES"

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The majority of black people in America have never even been arrested.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            abortion selectively targets a much higher % of would-be criminals since abortions are disproportionately sought by minority single mothers

            it's literally one of the few good preventative measures we employ

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Abortion is still murder even if the child is black.
        That would have to be decided by a vet or zoologist.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Even though black people can comprehend the laws of logic?
          Produce viable offspring with white humans? Are you kidding me?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Even though black people can comprehend the laws of logic?

            source?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Going outside. you should try it sometime anon

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            you ever seen Africa? or Atlanta? or Detroit? or Chicago? or Minnesota? or Dallas? or Florida? or Los Angeles? yknow those places that exist outside? not a lot of logic going on in those places, curious where you get your data from rabbi

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's lots of logic happening in those places. People planning ahead, balancing budgets, getting involved in politics, attending schools, etc

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Black personloving
            have a nice day. Now.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's not that complicated anon

            >I wasn't ready to be a mother yet. I had to get an abortion

            >You're still a mother though. You're the mother of a dead child.
            [...]
            Abortion is still murder even if the child is black.

            well baited

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            BBC for both of them

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can't murder a black person though, only a black guy can. Killing a member of a different tribe is never murder, read your Torah.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not Christian, Muslim or israeli.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sure, but the goings on of Black folk is none of my concern.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Black folk aren’t human.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They are but I don't even care. I don't even believe it's moral to perform an abortion on a mouse . We should grant rights to all beings that possess a significant amount of consciousness

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >perform an abortion on a mouse
            i mean thats just sick why the hell would you want to do that, ill stomp on mice in my house but theres no reason to torture them

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It would probably be done for scientific reasons anon

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's not nice.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I know. I’m sorry.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is the great hypocrisy of pregnancy. It shows how much a woman's desires are indulged and influence others because if they desire the baby it is a tragedy for it to die, but if they don't desire the baby almost everyone will say the baby's death was a better thing

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      context matters when it comes to life. It's like you don't even science

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    its not fair bros, all my life i wanted children and a family .....
    Sometimes i wished i was an idiot who couldnt think long term

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      We are all gonna make it Romania bro.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not and I know this damn well but thanks bro, I wish you make it

        I know that feel bro.

        It's fricked up that no money can buy the happiness of having a family

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I know that feel bro.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      having a kid with a woman is the biggest mistake a man can make

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          you need to get her a lobotomy before you knock her up, or, ensure she has a tragic accident after she gives birth. if you dont, it means you hate your kid

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some b***h I was with once aborted my kid while I was against it. We later broke up.
    I didn't know the exact date she was having it and I refused to go. Turns out I had taken a nap while she was having the abortion, and I had a dream. I was a college, and there was this pretty dark haired girl that looked kinda like me she was about 18 or so, and she wanted me to sit down with her on a bench. And she told me she was my daughter, and I cried in the dream and held her and she said we won't see each other again for a long time. And that she loved me and wished she could have had a life with me.
    And we said goodbye, and she said I have to walk away now so I did and then I snapped awake.
    I found out later that day that my ex had the abortion that day. Later I met someone else and had kids.
    But I never forgot that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i think you met your kid in the place we'll call no time. I think in another timeline you got to raise that other kid. I've had dreams and lived them out. It's an odd feeling, but I've also had others that felt they were for another timeline. good luck. enjoy those kids anon.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it was probably a real vision. Everyone who lives long enough will see some shit that can't be explained by anything other than the existence of the supernatural.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would be depressed if this happened to me. To the point of suicide.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        murder*

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've had a similar experience but not related to abortion.
      I saw my wife and predicted some problems she'd go through in a dream about a year before we met. I didn't even know it was her until ~10y later when I stopped and really thought about it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      murdered babies go to heaven because theyve never done anything wrong

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >murdered babies go to heaven
        If they weren't baptized, it is unlikely they go to heaven. Theologians have speculated they may go to limbo, which is the top layer of hell, where things aren't so bad. They are deprived of the beatific vision of heaven, being able to experience God directly, but they aren't punished of tormented in limbo. It's actually a natural paradise that is better than anything we experience in this crap world, but still not as nice as actual heaven.

        God's judgement is just. Murdered babies can't be punished for being evil, but they can't receive the same rewards as someone who suffered for what is right all his life. The world they go to is better than this one, but not heaven.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Now you remember that there are people who unironically believe this shit.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Theologians
          There might not be a single group of individuals that are more full of shit than those who dissect scripture in order to nail down the word of God into legalistic worldly understanding. Its precisely what the pharisees did.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's a tragic story, made my eyes wet. god bless your family.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I’m so sorry anon. I hope you meet her in heaven

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/iiFUPhH.jpeg

      Do you think most women who get abortions are aware of the lifetime regret they will experience?

      its not fair bros, all my life i wanted children and a family .....
      Sometimes i wished i was an idiot who couldnt think long term

      Why are you homosexuals so weak and sensitive? White men

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      rejoice, you shall meet her after judgement day.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      God bless you anon and I hope you do get to see your daughter again. I’ve had a miscarriage and a medically induced abortion with my wife. It was an ectopic pregnancy and would’ve made my wife sterile if we didn’t abort. We now have two beautiful babies a boy and a girl.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >21
    >too young
    This was the norm prior to the 60s

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly probably younger. I think all my (great)grandparents had their first child at like 17-19. I wonder what the norm was in medieval and classical times for peasant-tier freemen. I assume it was like 17-22 for men and they'd marry some 14-15 year old woman, but it's mostly only rich people you're given accounts of in records.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fake and gay LARP posts, why does anyone think these are real? They never are. They are all obsessed polcucks dreaming that women are tormented they way they believe they are.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      got any proof besides baseless claims that align with the narrative they want us to believe?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      A friend's wife miscarried a few months in. They already had 2 healthy kids, so it wasn't like it was her last shot. It REALLY affected her in a way I couldn't understand. Years later, she still breaks down on it's due date "birthday".

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Woman moment. Women want to be the center of attention and the protagonist of some telenovela, so they behave like this and make a big theater of fricking nothing. Also theyre mentally unstable and historical, in the good ol days the man of the house could solve this with a single slap, but those sane days are long gone

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Some of them definitely are anon vid related https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l02zp7klPkk

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      My mom had a miscarriage some years ago. Too early to tell the sex but I know she was my little sister. My mom still can’t talk about it, she’ll never get over it and neither will my dad or I. Women are human too.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Read Numbers. Miscarriage is God's judgement for adultery. Biblical adultery is all nonmarital sex. So any woman who has sex with not her husband before, during or after her marriage is guilty of adultery. And miscarriage rates keep going up. These prostitutes never understand anything.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Read Job. God does as he wills and most often he chooses not to tell men why he dies it. “Was it his sin or his fathers that made him blind?” Christ gave us an answer.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >adultery is all nonmarital sex
          no, its fornication if both parties arent married. simeon and levi were rebuked for murdering shechem who fornicated with dinah which is why the fourth son judah was in the line of the Lord

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So by your logic the ones that say they are glad they aborted are fake too, thus the sentiment of this post is real, albeit by someone else.
      Tldr youre a moron.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This guy gets it
      Holes use empathy as as virtue signaling tool but they're not that empathetic

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    there is a really bizarre level of doublethink when it comes to women and abortion. my cousin is hardcore pro-abortion but at the same time always harps on about how traumatic and awful it is for a woman to get one. if it's so traumatic and awful, then why are they advocate it so adamantly?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because cognitive dissonance doesn't affect a woman with less than half a brain.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My GF got knocked up at 4 months. Our daughter is about to be 10 months old now. We're making it work and I love my little girl to death. I totally wanted her to abort it initially since I wasn't ready and didn't think I could support her. I was very surprised when the gf said she's keeping it and said she understood if I didn't want to raise it, I was sure in these modern times she'd have gone straight to killing it but she considered it too big a blessing. So here we are. We want more.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The mother should be shot out of a cannon into a brick wall. The biggest danger to women is israelites and other women.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ya i would feel bad if i killed a baby as well

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I weep for my people

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I do too. God would have provided.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He's haunting her.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    my ex aborted our baby. makes me sad sometimes. we do regret it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think most people would feel bad that they killed their own child.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They will regret it a lot longer than a lifetime. They will regret for all eternity in the lake of fire for adultery and murder.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably did the kid a favor. Imagine what a clingy mother that would have been, and with no sense of responsibility. She probably wouldn't have taught him anything and would have wanted to be "besties" with him until she died. He'd probably have grown up hating her and it would have affected his relationships with women for the rest of his life.
    Is abortion regret a warning sign of a potentially bad mother?
    Both because she got the abortion and because of how she feels about it?

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the world needs another redditor
    frick of

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When we had our abortion referendum in 2018 the government put up a stage beforehand at Dublin Castle and when the yes side won there was a big party with shrieking witches dancing to music and drinking champagne.
    The whole unnatural spectacle was disturbing and demonic like the last days of Carthage.
    When we had another liberal referendum a few months ago the government also put up a stage there the day before.
    However traditionalism won and the government was defeated and everyone made their way to Dublin castle to celebrate.
    And what did the government do?
    As people arrived they started dismantling the stage and the police arrived and closed the gates and kicked everyone out.
    Petty mean and disgusting bastards.
    >death of children? Lets celebrate
    >death of the White population? Lets celebrate
    >death of the nation? Lets celebrate
    The people in power now are basically just a death cult

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The people in power now are basically just a death cult
      satanic cult anon, satanic cult, and in favour of the vax too

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Things get wild when you start recognizing that demons amount to what could be called sentient negative pattern generators. They, and the people influenced by them, are entirely predictable because they are set patterns that just propagate more of themselves. Now, if something is entirely predicatable.. what could be done with that information? Its little different than a video game ai, even the best games made games have predictable pathing and behaviors. And if you sperg into a game enough you can cheese it. If you recognize the pattern of demons and can identify which sort are influencing a person, theres no limit to what you can do.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fake, women are biologically incapable of feeling remorse

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Then why are the majority of vegans women and why is the pro life movement roughly 50/50 male and female ?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        it's all performative to signal their virtue to possible mates

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They're shooting themselves in the foot then. Many will refuse to date non vegans and have trouble finding a bf

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's what women do all the time? They are moronic.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Or maybe they're putting morals over mating.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There are no morals. Only their feelings. "I feel like I should vegan , like, because like it would be like good for the planet and like people in hunter gatherer times like died of cancer from all the like read meat?"

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Morals are feelings anon. What else would they be?
            Try
            >I think I should be vegan because I don't like to suffer so why should I unnecessarily cause innocent animals who are very conscious to suffer?

            Or even better
            >Because of arguments like name the trait I realize that animal rights are a logical extension of Human rights. I do not want to take away human rights from any humans and I wish to be logically consistent therefore I must go vegan

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Another based anon
          >Muh israelite Black person weeps after he created a bomb designed to kill people
          >Muh wominz regret killing her babies

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't regret either of mine. I don't want genetic offspring. I wish I was infertile. I'll adopt in my mid 30s.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Work to raise somebody else’s throw away.

      No thanks.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They are not consciously aware. But on the subconscious level, they are. They make abortion such a big issue because they feel less guilty knowing that many others are doing it.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I know women who have had misscarriages. They have confided some sadness in me about it. But you know what? They had more babies and now have 9/10 year olds that they devote their life to. Whom they love and cherish and would die for. I'm not from the christcuck camp where I view abortion is murder. Though I do view it as killing another human. Humans kill other humans every day, even state sanctioned killings that we deem allowed (war). And humans will always kill other humans, until the last vestige of our species dies out. For the most part. The women who undergo abortions are probably justified in doing so. Because any inkling in going through the act would mean doubt was present in raising the child. If you don't have the resources to raise a child, how will their life be determined? Poor, always beneath their peers. Sets them up for life. Nothing wrong with what she did in the OP. I'm sure her time will come and will bring a beautiful baby boy into existence. And he will be her whole world.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You are scum and I'm glad your country is collapsing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I know you have lost your own soul, but you didn't even have the decency to gain something for it. You have nothing and your soul is forfeit. What a fricking failure.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How is a human killing another human not a murder?!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If you don't have the resources to raise a child, how will their life be determined? Poor, always beneath their peers

      Buddy if this was the standard, humans wouldn't exist. You're looking at the human condition and situations through a lens exclusively in modernity. 99.9999% of humans to ever exist, had it worse than we have it now.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    we should all pray for this poor woman. She killed her baby and realised the reality of what she has done.
    God will judge her for the murder.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >lifetime regret
    talk to a parents with fricked up kids if you want to know what this is all about

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's all men's fault. We lost the technology to make guillotines.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If men feel no regret impregnating and abandoning the mother why should thr pregnant lady feel regret for abortion?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because one is murder and the other isn’t.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If men feel no regret impregnating and abandoning the mother why should thr pregnant lady feel regret for abortion?
      Because she allowed it to happen. Man are wired to impreginate and womans are responsible for "by who". That's why institution of marriage exist to make individual responsible for their actions but it is turned into a shit show by feminazi and libtards.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you will never have sex disgusting subhuman you don't get to weigh in on this

        your culture devalues women and as such devalues itself....frick you..burn yourself alive

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it is turned into a shit show by
        kjv only independent fundamentalist churches whose pastors thunder from the pulpit that marital rape is the worst crime satan has invented and the congregation goes to the purple ribbon protest against domestic violence. with churches like that who needs israelites

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If men feel no regret impregnating and abandoning the mother why should thr pregnant lady feel regret for abortion?

        lol you act like single mothers tried to find a nice guy who would commit and he changed after the pregnancy. No, the only women who get knocked up by men who won't stick around are women who reject any man who would stick around. Grow up and realize that many women do not WANT a nice committed guy, they want the bad boy who will abandon her because she thinks those men are exciting.

        I have never met a single mother who wasn't the type of woman who actively pursued shitty men and rejected the genuine nice guys (outside of one woman whose husband died young)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      More evil is never the answer to evil.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >help make baby
      >want nothing to do with it
      Black person behavior

      >kill baby
      israelite behavior

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you're so clueless you dumb b***h.. no wonder no one takes women seriously. man sprays his seed, you grow baby inside you. hey, just cut your eye out, you've got two and one of them looks funny

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i got a black girl pregnant twice. she aborted both times. sometimes o feel a twinge but are you kidding me a black son??

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    stop fricking chads that will force you to get an abortion

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A man wrote that.
    Women aren't capable of feelings such as remorse

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i made a b***h get an abortion and then dumped her not soon after. pretty sure i gave her lifetime trauma as i checked in recently after a few years and she's all tatted up and bloated. sad!

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >lifetime regret
    women arent human and dont have the capability to regret anything. it was for the best because she would of trooned her kid out

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you know most people who gave birth to down syndrome kids and have kids with serious damages that could have been aborter are having lifetime regrets and suffer?
    My distant family(not blood relate fortunately) just had 60yo down die. His father was 95 and for 60years he was taking care of this down. After his down son's death he was smiling and looked far more relaxed than ever, something noone seen in ages. Three months later he died himself. What was his life about if not regret and suffering.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Did you ask him what he thought about his sacrifice? The treasures he was storing up in heaven are infinitely greater than the treasures he sacrificed by being a man of God and by being a father like God is our father.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No they won't. They just say this to get victimhood points and get free stuff from simps.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i was freaked out about finances when my wife got pregnant but being a dad has been the single greatest thing of my life. It's like seeing in color for the first time. You understand that you didn't know love before you met your children.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    actions have repercussions. glad she came to her senses that she broke this homosexuals world most pious, pure, SUPERCALIFRAGILISTICEXPIALIDOCIOUS and magical relation just because of her reckless behaviour. She betrayed her defenceless child who needed her the most.
    you can hate nature, you can love nature but you can't ignore nature.
    Hope she grow up and try to be a better, responsible human.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Normalise sending kid's birthday cards to women who had abortions on/around what would have been the child's birthday

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My mom aborted who would've been my brother and I would see his spirit all the time. There are timelines where the decision was not made to murder them, so their ghost is present among us.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      my sister iced her third kid, would've been my nephew and my kid's cousin. Only my mom and I knew, and she took it to her grave. I need to tell my dad but I'm afraid it'll kill him.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Good
        One less Black person mutt

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          there has been one notable romanian in 1000 years, and he is famous for shoving wood up turk anus

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sad
      Another anon said something similar
      God is real
      Christ is King

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No I think it's further proof of alternate timelines which are not described in the israeli bible because it's bullshit.

        We need to make normies aware of the aborted ghost phenomenon. My mom even said she's seen "my twin" aka my little brother she aborted.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >We need to make normies aware of the aborted ghost phenomenon. My mom even said she's seen "my twin" aka my little brother she aborted.
          I'm sure there are many others who have seen these spirits of the aborted. We have souls. Those children are ripped from the world at such a young age and when and where they are completely defenseless. It's very sad
          Recognizing this spiritual reality is on the way to appreciating God's existence

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Women aren't aware of anything that will happen any amount of time from now.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How is she anything but a victim? She wanted a kid, probably wanted to marry the guy, but he didn't because there's nothing that says he has to despite impregnating her.
    Nobody likes abortion, some people cope and pretend to, it's just the least shit solution in a world with less community than ever.
    There's no village to raise the baby, there's no generational family on two sides to love, support, and welcome a baby and new spouse to the family, no glad union between two houses, two long lines.

    We're back to the fricking jungle, worse than the cavemen, when it comes to actually nurturing and supporting people. It's really not her fault in this particular circumstance.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    me and my ex aborted our seed in november 2007. it has become very painful to me as we approach what would have been the baby's 16th birthday.

    nobody ever talks about the toll this takes on men..well it does. nobody ever thinks about us

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >me and my ex aborted our seed in november 2007.
      Based
      >nobody ever talks about the toll this takes on men..well it does. nobody ever thinks about us
      Even though we have to find a name for this type of mental illness

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    heres what would make her feel better

    ITS BECAUSE YOU MURDERED SOMEBODY b***h

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Consequent to this, it is imperative that laws are changed world-wide to allow abortion up to the 66th trimester.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The honest ones admit it. But don't underestimate the scale of double-think and self-delusion that a modern, empowered feminist woman is capable of.

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That’s awful. God help her

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My mon was batshith crazy alcoholic at a times, but I'm thankful she was strong willed enough to resist her parents forcing her to abort me as freshly 18yo to a point she ran away from home.

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >aware of the lifetime regret they will experience?
    women with foresight?
    i have seen intelligent Black folk, honorable chinks, hygienic pajets, responsible spics, honest israelites, atractive feminist and one time i even saw an anglosaxon with a straight row of teeth, but a woman capable of long term planning able to see past beyond hedonistic instant gratification frivolities? now that's the rares cryptid you could possibly ever find

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I would rather kms than be responsible for raising a child. Good luck changing my mind.

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    But Abortion is a woman's right!!!

    While many women get an abortion because of family/boyfriend pressures. In the end its not really their choice.

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They brought women with such regrets to my school when I was a kid to discourage abortions. However, the sad truth is that many pro-life parents will suddenly be pro-choice when it's their teenage daughter who's gonna be a single mom before graduating high school.

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    She saved him from entering this hell. A true hero.

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    needs to be a carfax for women to know if their pussy's are haunted.

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >They all know how old their child would be.
    And they'll remember it when they burn in hell.

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    rate my daring synthesis.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      9/11

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >naming your child Todd
    why?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      skyrim

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        what about it?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          he was in the chess club

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's my cousin's name

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is most white women that have abortions. They never had the ability to realize what they were doing beforehand and were led by terrible people and a terrible society into doing something they'll suffer with for the rest of their lives.

    If there were a spiritual force that harvested human suffering for its power, one of the first things it would do is convince young women to murder their children in their most vulnerable state so that they live in trauma for the rest of their lives.

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sane women stop after one abortion and admit they regret it greatly. Insane women typically have multiple abortions and will burn in hell for all of eternity.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Checked
      I think at a point they really embrace the evil. Maybe after the 4th or 5th abortion

  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    New INCEL thread just dropped!

  60. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    at least this woman is taking some sort of accountability. but that's a good angle to hit at these feminist roasties; your child today would have been x years old, he would look just like daddy or she would look just like mommy, etc..

  61. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you think any women have any bit of empathy for all of the men who have their baby aborted without their consent? How many men have these same dreams?

  62. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    depends, do women feel anything?

  63. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No foids cant think into the future

  64. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yo where's that comic that's all "today I will crush my child with a rock"?
    You know the one.

  65. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't even hate these people, society has brainwashed them into thinking that their only option is to murder their own kids in the womb or they're destined for a horrible life of pain, it's sad and evil

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > you are told you will have a sad life on inconvenience if you dont murder an innocent baby thats your child
      > what would you do
      > people dont think it be like it is but it do

  66. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Do you think most women who get abortions are aware of the lifetime regret they will experience?
    it come swinging back at them decades after and then you'll see them collapse one day under the weight of all their wrong choices
    I've witnessed it and if you stay long enough to hear what they have to confess you'll see how miserable their lives really are

  67. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wake up.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      in the Hippocratic oath you make a promise to God to do no harm among other things.

      one of the main vows for millennia was to preform no abortions and to go out of your way to help the mother to at least let it be born.

      in the 90s almost all med schools altered the oath in their own way, only 7 schools kept the preform no abortion, but that quickly changed when [[[someone]]] found out

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        “I swear by Apollo the physician, and Aesculapius the surgeon, likewise Hygeia and Panacea, and call all the gods and goddesses to witness, that I will observe and keep this underwritten oath, to the utmost of my power and judgment. I will reverence my master who taught me the art.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oaths and Vows
        33Again, you have heard that it was said to the ancients, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill your vows to the Lord.’ 34But I tell you not to swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35or by the earth, for it is His footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King.…

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          An oath ties you to the past. If I make an oath I am held to it so long as it is unfulfilled, but the moment I make that oath the time had already passed. Imagine, also, needing to make an oath not to be wicked, that doesnt say much about who you are. But then also, the idea that the past can chain the present is folly, the past has no bearing on now, unless someone agrees that the past defines who they are. The blacks are a good example of this, the ones that break the chain of slavery are the ones who get called uncle toms, but the ones that continue to "fight against slavery" are enslaved by it and their very existence is made a mockery.

  68. 2 months ago
    Expatriate, Anons
  69. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I will post a homosexualy screenshot instead of a link
    old.reddit.com/r/Vent/comments/1chwaxg/i_had_an_abortion_and_i_regret_it_massively/

  70. 2 months ago
    Shueisha

    I would say it's also the dad's fault, she seems like a young woman who drowned in the bullshit views of others but has a gentle heart on her own. I hope she finds a better man who will cherish their baby more than her homosexual "student" partner

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Which dad, her dad or the baby daddy? If the baby daddy, consider that she only chose the man BECAUSE he was a shitty loser who wouldn't make a good father. Why blame a man for being the type of man she's attracted to? If he were the type of guy who makes a good father, she never would have slept with him at all.

  71. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Regret? What do you think they really mean when they say “I got bodies”

  72. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    moronic animals lack awareness
    Human modern females are moronic animals

  73. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >i feel as though a part of me has died
    well yeah it literally grows thanks to you

  74. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Regret of abortion is a minority experience. Most women who get abortions are already mothers. They are protecting the children they already have by trying not to overwhelm the time and resources they need to be good mothers. Who would regret giving a better life to their children?

  75. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tragic.

  76. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Abortion doesn't stop a women from becoming a mother, it just makes her the mother of a dead childld

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