GF trying to sue me for my crypto holdings?

I bought 100 bitcoins about a decade ago (I still have all of them). I told my GF to put her paycheck into bitcoin too and she ended up with 50 BTC. I told them that I would hold them for her. Two years she broke up with me because she "fell out of love". Recently I got a mysterious phone call from her, that she had a strange tone of voice. She was reminiscing about the past and then managed to bring up the Bitcoins. I immediately knew that she was recording me to use as evidence, so I end the conversation shortly after.

About a week later, her sister messages me and is a lot more confrontational, saying how I held those 50 bitcoins for her that they were her sister's money. Long story short, indeed it's true that she wants to sue me for those 50 BTC.

There is no paper trail of it and no admission of guilt anywhere, which is why she called me to try and extract a confession. She gave me cash to buy it back then so there is no paper trail.

Should I fight her on this or should I just give her her bitcoins? Keep in mind that when she dumped me, I fell into a deep pit of depression for years, she ghosted me and never checked up on me to see how I'm doing. I was just total trash to her.

I only escaped from the depression BTC pumped over 10 grand. I now have a new GF who is telling me to not give her a penny, that she wasn't there for me, that she doesn't love me like she does, and she dumped me when I was at my lowest, that she would never even think of doing that. Basically exactly what a good girlfriend would actually behave like.

Now she wants those 50 bitcoins, I am in a difficult position. I can't just make her rich, especially a girl that ice cold, although it is tempting to cash out a single coin and go on a lavish vacation, and post pictures of it on instagram to make her seethe.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    literally just cash out and move to iceland and forget about your ex, like, why even fight this you're rich

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    did she buy the bitcoins or give you the money to buy them for her? if the latter, she has receipts of that from her bank account and you would absolutely be fricked in court.

    >when she dumped me, I fell into a deep pit of depression for years, she ghosted me and never checked up on me to see how I'm doing. I was just total trash to her.

    wah wah, woe is me. keeping what's rightfully hers would prove you are total trash.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      She gave cash to buy them. It would probably show the withdrawal amount in her bank.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        exactly. do the right thing, anon.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        exactly. do the right thing, anon.

        >give your ex GF who betrayed you and treated you like shit millions of dollars

        lmaooooo

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >ending a relationship justifies stealing

          nig tier thinking

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's hardly stealing if she leaves you and doesn't take her stuff with you and then demands it after two years.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This.
            It's like retroactive rape claims when a b***h like her wakes up 9 years after hooking up with a guys and seeing that he became a millionaire and she wants some of his money so she starts saying that it wasn't consensual sex lmao.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >stealing
            It's not stealing when you do it to a roastie thot.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            my ex girlfriend left a USB flash drive at my house 3 years ago. am I under arrest if she wants it back?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Don't listen to that limp dick homosexual, just deny that she ever gave you any money for the bitcoins.
        If she ever brings up the money she withdrew and gave you as cash for the cryptobux, just say that it was her half of the bills.
        Cash the crypto out ASAP and move to another place, change names, get a new phone number, etc. Become unreachable for any lawsuit.
        God bless you OP, don't give into all that moral bullshit, the money is yours.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Dont even say that. Just say you never gave me cash. What are you talking about? Dont admit she ever gave it to you at all. Cash coukd have been for drugs for all the court knows.
          She is just a grifter that is trying to steal his btc he bought with his own money.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Contact a lawyer for a counselling session and ask him for legal advice and what the best way to proceed is.

        >She gave cash
        You'll have to return it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Don't be a fricking moron..women withdraw cash for all kinds of stupid shit all the time. There's no proof that some cash withdrawal from 10 years ago was specifically to buy shit coins. Don't be a fricking idiot. You don't owe this prostitute anything. BTC will be 50k soon. Will you be happy you gave your ex GF 2.5m? No you won't.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      exactly. do the right thing, anon.

      The right thing is to frick the roastie and live a life of luxury.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So let's get this clear. Because she broke up with you, you feel justified in stealing from her.

    Cash in some of your bitcoin to pay for a VERY good lawyer. You are 100% in the wrong.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      but there is no evidence, she gave me cash and I met some shady guy off localbitcoins to buy them. She didn't even ask for any evidence at the time. She just never mentioned it again.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >but there is no evidence, she gave me cash
        but she did, and you know she did. if you want to steal from her just fricking man up and do it but don't come on here expecting us to wash your conscience and provide copes for you, you gutless fricking weasel, if you're going to be a thief fricking own it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          She paid for them, you're an absolute piece of shit if you keep them. And make no mistake, you WILL get ass fricked in court because the law is 100% on her side here. You're just another scumbag thief.

          >b-but she broke up with me
          Boo fricking hoo. Grow the frick up, butthole. Maybe a nasty breakup justifies keeping a DVD she left at your place, it sure as hell doesn't justify STEALING $2.1 MILLION.

          >She gave me cash to buy it back then so there is no paper trail.
          Your IQ must be in the single digits if you really think it works this way. Literally all she needs to do is show her bank withdrawals to the authority, and that'll give them cause to investigate your own financial transactions from around that time. If they see you made a purchase with the exact same amount, that'll be more than enough evidence to convince a jury.

          This is no joke. Give back the money now or you're going to end up in prison for financial crimes. The government has been cracking down on crypto shenanigans lately because of all the highly publicized frauds, they'd gladly throw the book at you just to set an example.

          Your only other option is to try and flee to some shithole country with weak extradition laws. You could try Argentina, maybe their new ancap government will be sympathetic to your plight. I'm sure your current girlfriend will love that.

          OP is 100% in the right. She doesn’t deserve anything because she’s a disgusting roastie prostitute. She’ll waste it buying gold teeth for the Tyrones she fricks anyway.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >you feel justified in stealing from her.
      Not the OP but give me a fricking break you goddamned simp. She wouldn't have even known about Bitcoin if HE hadn't put in the work, learned about it, and bought it for her. If anything she's owed the original $$$ amount of the Bitcoin he bought for her. If she wanted to buy Bitcoin she should have been more than a useless female and learned it herself. Oh wait, she can't, because she's a stupid fricking female. I'm so sick and tired of females latching onto men, draining them dry, treating them like shit, and then expecting half or more of what the man worked for. Frick them. All a female has to do is stay loyal and there won't be any issue but she just can't resist jumping on Chad's wiener and ruining the lives of perfectly innocent men.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >grimey salesman in court
        "But your honour, the plaintiff didnt even KNOW duct cleaning was a thing BEFORE i told them about it and took their money to provide the service then didnt do it!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Amazong youre on a rant about how stupid women are but seem to think her not knowing about bitcoin would make it not a crime to then take her money and buy her bitcoin then not give it to her..

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >a crime
          I don't give a shit about the moronic fricking gynocentric laws that put women first and make men second class citizens. She doesn't deserve anything but her original USD back.

          >grimey salesman in court
          "But your honour, the plaintiff didnt even KNOW duct cleaning was a thing BEFORE i told them about it and took their money to provide the service then didnt do it!

          moronic fricking analogy.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >She doesn't deserve anything but her original USD back.
            And since she's being such an entitled c**t about it she doesn't even deserve that. OP so long as there's no paper trail and you've never admitted to using her money to buy the BTC, you're home free. Even if they can prove that you received the money, it's her word against yours that it wasn't a "gift."

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Even if they can prove that you received the money, it's her word against yours that it wasn't a "gift."
            How often do people just give each other gifts of $20,000 in cash for no particular reason? Yes, it's her word against his, but unless he has an incredibly good excuse, the jury is definitely going to believe her version of events.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >How often do people just give each other gifts of $20,000 in cash for no particular reason?
            All the time. Its just a matter of the scope of money you deal with. $20,000 to a billionaire is like $20 to a working class shlub. Friends ask for/give $20 all the time.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >being an entitled c**t about being robbed of millions of dolllars

            Youre being a tiny c**t about a woman you dont know youre now reading about on the internet. I wonder if youd launch into space with the shit stream youd be blowing all over if you invested money and it turned into millions ans the person you gave uour money to in trust said "lol sorry I dont like you now".

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't give a shit about the moronic fricking gynocentric laws that put women first and make men second class citizens.
            You seem to be misinterpreting this. It's not like she's claiming that he owes her half of his money just because they used to date. (I agree with you that it's bullshit for marriage to work this way.)

            The issue here is that she paid him to make an investment on her behalf, then he took the money and ran with it. It doesn't matter that he's better at investing than her, that was implicit in the agreement to begin with. He basically served as an investment broker for her and then refused to give back any of her money once it started getting returns. That has nothing to do with "gynocentric laws," the fact that she's female and used to be his girlfriend are both completely irrelevant to the situation at hand.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            She gave money to be used a specific way. OP is now keeping it. That is a crime.
            The irony of screaming "gynocentricism!!" When youre here calling for a crime not to be considered a crime because of your feelings on women.
            Thats some IQ 40 shit anon.

            There is no argument here af all whether or not what OP is doing is criminal. It absolutely is criminal. Anyone who doesnt agree is frankly totally moronic the debate is whether or not he can get away with ut

            And here you are flailing your arms screaming and seething because a woman is involved and that hurts your tiny child fee fees.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >he told her about bitcoin so now its not a crime that he can steal her money she gave him specifically for bitcoin that was to be held

            >here is another example of telling someone about something, taking their money, then not delivering.

            >HERSHEY DURR moronic ANALOGY

            Anon be honest. Did you or did you not pass 1st grade.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >ending a relationship justifies stealing

      nig tier thinking

      100% justified as reparations for her being a deceitful prostitute. Taking the money is right OP.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't that pretty standard when people break up though? A lot of people go non-contact as a protective measure for themselves.

    To me it's moral to give her the BTC, especially since you have a lot for yourself still. Keeping all of it seems kind of petty and greedy. From my perspective you both got lucky and it's still a win-win scenerio if you give her back the btc. I honestly get the vibe that the current GF feels like she deserves the money more because she's currently with you, wonder if she'll throw a fit if you give it back.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Give nothing. Take it all. The filthy prostitute needs to learn.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm going with this. Western woman have become utter gold diggers on average. Unless you litrally have no choice but to give her the money then don't. Don't care if you really have $500 or $5 million screw her.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >tempting to cash out a single coin and go on a lavish vacation, and post pictures of it on instagram to make her seethe.

    this would absolutely bite you in court, btw

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    1) atomic swap your BTC to XMR
    2) boating accident
    3) ?????
    4) profit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Dumped you meaning what? Why? If she actually did that for no reason other than her own mental illness I wouldn't give her a penny. If you did something bad to her that lead to her breaking up with you then you should pay up.

      This

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >cant believe breakups happen
        >cant believe this guy about to commit larceny in the amount of millions over pettiness and is letting his current gf influence him and needs the internets help to figure out the right thing was broken up with for no reason.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >keeping what you already have
          >larceny
          This moron is also free and clear if he can just shut the frick up about it there shouldn't be any proof this happened. The police and FBI are not superheroes and don't take the word of your average 30 year old woman that seriously. If I go into the police station and tell them my ex girlfriend stole 6 million bitcoins but no I don't have any proof or receipts how serious do you think they'll take me?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            assuming OP is American, she doesn't need the police to do anything. OP will get sued in civil court and there will be a discovery process by which he will be compelled to produce documents showing his guilt

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            he's definitely American, only in USA would someone think a breakup justifies criminal misappropriation of millions of dollars. mutt logic is incredible

          • 1 month ago
            MKG

            >misappropriation of millions of dollars.
            If the break up happened 8 years ago:

            https://i.imgur.com/LRFlERI.jpg

            I bought 100 bitcoins about a decade ago (I still have all of them). I told my GF to put her paycheck into bitcoin too and she ended up with 50 BTC. I told them that I would hold them for her. Two years she broke up with me because she "fell out of love". Recently I got a mysterious phone call from her, that she had a strange tone of voice. She was reminiscing about the past and then managed to bring up the Bitcoins. I immediately knew that she was recording me to use as evidence, so I end the conversation shortly after.

            About a week later, her sister messages me and is a lot more confrontational, saying how I held those 50 bitcoins for her that they were her sister's money. Long story short, indeed it's true that she wants to sue me for those 50 BTC.

            There is no paper trail of it and no admission of guilt anywhere, which is why she called me to try and extract a confession. She gave me cash to buy it back then so there is no paper trail.

            Should I fight her on this or should I just give her her bitcoins? Keep in mind that when she dumped me, I fell into a deep pit of depression for years, she ghosted me and never checked up on me to see how I'm doing. I was just total trash to her.

            I only escaped from the depression BTC pumped over 10 grand. I now have a new GF who is telling me to not give her a penny, that she wasn't there for me, that she doesn't love me like she does, and she dumped me when I was at my lowest, that she would never even think of doing that. Basically exactly what a good girlfriend would actually behave like.

            Now she wants those 50 bitcoins, I am in a difficult position. I can't just make her rich, especially a girl that ice cold, although it is tempting to cash out a single coin and go on a lavish vacation, and post pictures of it on instagram to make her seethe.

            >about a decade ago
            >Two years she broke up with me
            They were worth less than $50k then.

            OP wasn't obligated to continue to manage her crypto currency portfolio, just pay her out.

          • 1 month ago
            MKG

            Also, if she put her paycheck into BTC in 2014 and got 50 BTC, her paycheck was about $15k.

            These numbers aren't exactly precisely panning out.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Also yeah you should do this. Youre an idiot for telling the new gf. Btc to xmr then move it out slowly through coin cards and oay no tax.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >She gave me cash
    >there is no paper trail
    What did you do with that cash?
    Did you just throw it up into the air and shout "Bitcoin!" and it changed into Bitcoin?
    The only way you'll even come close to passing a cursory forensic accounting sniff test is if you took that cash and transferred it to a disposable debit card then used that card to make a bitcoin purchase to an independent wallet nobody but you knows about. And are still sitting on that account with no activity.
    Consider 50btc to be the cost of not getting absolutely ass raped by a drawn-out discovery process and the inevitable tax audit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's untraceable at this point, moron.
      Especially if you start to transfer that money through several trust funds and companies over the span of 2+ years.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >It's untraceable
        hahahaha holy shit you're moronic

        enjoy prison anon, you deserve it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Offshoring the money through several different institutions and disappearing from your state is going to make most prosecutors not bother with your case and suspend/discontinue it after some time.
          If there's nobody to prosecute and the money exists only physically with the last withdrawal through several banks in Germany, Czech Republic and some other slav country, you're not getting that person.
          This is why cross-border and international crime is so hard to prosecute. It's virtually untraceable unless the criminal messes up or if the victim finds evidence.
          That's why I called you a moron.
          t. public prosecutor

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It doesn't matter how untraceable it is now. It doesn't matter what you did with money since the initial purchase. The initial purchase is all that matters. That's what you're not understanding. You could've thrown it all out and it wouldn't make a difference.

            All they need to see is a bank statement from her showing that she withdrew the money, and any record of you depositing the same amount of money in an account shortly afterwards. There must have been some transaction by which the paper cash was transferred to a digital format, and there will be a record of that transaction which forensic accountants will be able to find.

            Sure, maybe if you were really clever, they might not be able to find where the money is currently located and take it directly. (You're probably not actually that clever, but let's pretend for the sake of argument.) It doesn't matter. They can still prove the initial theft, send you to prison for it, and seize any money or property you have that is on record. And when you get out of prison, you still won't be able to enjoy your millions, because the moment you try to actually do anything with it, the government will be on your ass like flies on shit.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            see

            You need to prove there was an order/contract for buying a specific amount of crypto, and that this money was specifically meant for the purchase and not for something else. Words are not enough to prove the existence of either, unless OP openly admitted it.
            And before the court would get OP's bank to cooperate and get the history of his transfers, OP could withdraw all his crypto to an offshore account, buy a plane ticket and frick off to Thailand for a few years.
            All of these responses just tell me you Black folk have some weird fetish and obsession with getting dominated.

            You're not pinning a tax crime on someone just because there were transfers of the same amounts of money at a similar time, especially since it wasn't a direct trasnfer, but withdrawals and payments. That's guesswork at that point, since there's no order placed on the money.
            You're not pinning a tax crime on a crypto purchase just based on guesswork and the testimony of one person. And that's not even taking into account that all these ebin detective stories and IRS memes that you got from TV shows and reddit don't exist IRL and people working in taxes don't get paid enough to bother with this shit.
            Sorry bro, your fantasy about the government being this almighty hydra isn't true, go back to eating crayons like the moron you are.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Who even mentioned tax crime? That's not the issue. It's a fraud case, plain and simple. You told someone you'd invest their money for them, and then bailed with it.

            >That's guesswork at that point, since there's no order placed on the money.
            Juries have convicted people on less evidence than that. And honestly, if the money just up and disappeared without a trace after she gave it to you, that's just going to look more suspicious to them.

            Is it possible that you might get acquitted? Sure. But the odds are really not as high as you seem to think. I'd think very carefully about whether keeping this money is worth the risk.

            But whatever, it seems like you aren't willing to even consider the possibility that there might actually be consequences for your actions, so I'm out. It's your life.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >It's a fraud case
            "Your honor, I didn't take any money from this person"
            The court screens your bank account and transfer history, your chat history and your phone calls with the plaintiff. They find zero evidence of a contract.
            There goes your case, moron.

            >You told someone you'd invest their money for them, and then bailed with it
            Prove it.
            You can't.
            The case gets discontinued.

            >Juries have convicted people on less evidence than that
            Source: dude weed lmao.
            Go be a bootlicker on reddit or tumblr.

            >if the money just up and disappeared without a trace after she gave it to you, that's just going to look more suspicious to them
            If the transfer tax from crypto to money is paid, they'll only be able to try to screen transfer information from the banks you used. If the bank is on foreign soil, you're looking at weeks just to get simple information about that bank account's transfer history.

            >But whatever, it seems like you aren't willing to even consider the possibility that there might actually be consequences for your actions
            This moron thought he's talking to OP, kek.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The initial purchase is all that matters.
            lmaoooo this dude still hasn't heard about money laundering in 2024
            homie this is why you're still a wagie earning less than 100k.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Money laundering doesnt do anything for an initial amount that can be demonstrated to have been from something...
            If they can pinpoint your money was drug money it doesnt matter if you laundered it if they know jt was drug money. Wtf did you think would happen if yheh could determine he bought 50 btc with her money to hold for her? "But your honour this 2 million I have is from my car wash. I dont have the 50 bitcoins I bought in trust for her anymore" like wtf?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >But your honour this 2 million I have is from my car wash. I dont have the 50 bitcoins I bought in trust for her anymore
            You're assuming the crypto was bought with HER money and FOR her without any evidence of this taking place, moron.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Im responding specifically to your insinuation in your post that the initial purchase *isnt* what matters.
            And as far as op goes we dont know what communications were had and what the ex still has. We do know there are bank records. And for the amount in question there would be a deep investigation.
            So, an exchange of texts talking abkut bitcoin, a withdrawal of money at approx. The amount of bitcoin at that time and rhen a purchase of that amount of bitcoin at that time? That would definitely raise a lot of questions, woukdnt it? And they *can* get that bank information.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Is the point she withdrew cash and you deposited it and bought bitcoin untraceable?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You need to prove there was an order/contract for buying a specific amount of crypto, and that this money was specifically meant for the purchase and not for something else. Words are not enough to prove the existence of either, unless OP openly admitted it.
          And before the court would get OP's bank to cooperate and get the history of his transfers, OP could withdraw all his crypto to an offshore account, buy a plane ticket and frick off to Thailand for a few years.
          All of these responses just tell me you Black folk have some weird fetish and obsession with getting dominated.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            all these responses tell me that there are literal children here with zero life experience who fall for obvious internet larps. the timeline doesn't add up: OP's gf handed him money to buy btc and forgot about it two years ago? when it was almost at all time highs? sure, pal.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Learn to read, moron.
            OP wrote that he bought crypto around 10 years ago and that they broke up two years ago.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            still doesn't add up. you don't forget about money when it's done nothing but go up since purchase. believe what you want.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    She paid for them, you're an absolute piece of shit if you keep them. And make no mistake, you WILL get ass fricked in court because the law is 100% on her side here. You're just another scumbag thief.

    >b-but she broke up with me
    Boo fricking hoo. Grow the frick up, butthole. Maybe a nasty breakup justifies keeping a DVD she left at your place, it sure as hell doesn't justify STEALING $2.1 MILLION.

    >She gave me cash to buy it back then so there is no paper trail.
    Your IQ must be in the single digits if you really think it works this way. Literally all she needs to do is show her bank withdrawals to the authority, and that'll give them cause to investigate your own financial transactions from around that time. If they see you made a purchase with the exact same amount, that'll be more than enough evidence to convince a jury.

    This is no joke. Give back the money now or you're going to end up in prison for financial crimes. The government has been cracking down on crypto shenanigans lately because of all the highly publicized frauds, they'd gladly throw the book at you just to set an example.

    Your only other option is to try and flee to some shithole country with weak extradition laws. You could try Argentina, maybe their new ancap government will be sympathetic to your plight. I'm sure your current girlfriend will love that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This

      https://i.imgur.com/LRFlERI.jpg

      I bought 100 bitcoins about a decade ago (I still have all of them). I told my GF to put her paycheck into bitcoin too and she ended up with 50 BTC. I told them that I would hold them for her. Two years she broke up with me because she "fell out of love". Recently I got a mysterious phone call from her, that she had a strange tone of voice. She was reminiscing about the past and then managed to bring up the Bitcoins. I immediately knew that she was recording me to use as evidence, so I end the conversation shortly after.

      About a week later, her sister messages me and is a lot more confrontational, saying how I held those 50 bitcoins for her that they were her sister's money. Long story short, indeed it's true that she wants to sue me for those 50 BTC.

      There is no paper trail of it and no admission of guilt anywhere, which is why she called me to try and extract a confession. She gave me cash to buy it back then so there is no paper trail.

      Should I fight her on this or should I just give her her bitcoins? Keep in mind that when she dumped me, I fell into a deep pit of depression for years, she ghosted me and never checked up on me to see how I'm doing. I was just total trash to her.

      I only escaped from the depression BTC pumped over 10 grand. I now have a new GF who is telling me to not give her a penny, that she wasn't there for me, that she doesn't love me like she does, and she dumped me when I was at my lowest, that she would never even think of doing that. Basically exactly what a good girlfriend would actually behave like.

      Now she wants those 50 bitcoins, I am in a difficult position. I can't just make her rich, especially a girl that ice cold, although it is tempting to cash out a single coin and go on a lavish vacation, and post pictures of it on instagram to make her seethe.

      Dude you gotta understand a theft of millions is going to be treated very differently in court. They will turn your butthole inside out searching every scrap of your life and studying your relationship with a comb in court in front of an audience and subpoena for your shit. If it was 2k it would be a he said she said. You stole millions. This is mega criminal in nature, and theyre going to investigate this down to your foreskin.

      If you still hsve your money, trust me on this, youre gonna wish you gave it up after theyre done with you. You have no idea how invasive the trial proceedings will be. Its almost worth it just to mske her go away.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you are a homosexual

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It wasn't worth 2.1 million at the time, and it wasn't stealing. Very disingenuous post.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    From a legal, moral, and "cmon man" standpoint, you should give her her bitcoins. She gave you money in trust to buy ajd hold 50 bitcoins for her. Theyre hers.
    If you held your 100, lord knows you have enough money. You dont need to play this silly dumb game.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Also
      >she broke up then didnt check up on me
      Dude its a breakup she isnt supposed to. All in all you sound like a homosexual entitled little b***h. Jesus christ. I can see why she broke up with you, AND why youre letting your new woman control you like this. Dang.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Also
      >she broke up then didnt check up on me
      Dude its a breakup she isnt supposed to. All in all you sound like a homosexual entitled little b***h. Jesus christ. I can see why she broke up with you, AND why youre letting your new woman control you like this. Dang.

      Dumped you meaning what? Why? If she actually did that for no reason other than her own mental illness I wouldn't give her a penny. If you did something bad to her that lead to her breaking up with you then you should pay up.

      This

      Roastie prostitutes are always wrong and evil. Taking anything from them and even raping them is morally right always.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Least batshit crazy NSFFW reply

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Literally none of this happened and you’re actually getting people to respond to this awful larp with real advice. Just ask for some head in exchange for the BTC and then don’t give it to her after you cum down her throat. This coombrain scenario is about as realistic as anything in this thread. Get a life

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >over 4 million dollars in BTC
    >asking for advice on 4chins
    You have to pick one

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >There is no paper trail of it and no admission of guilt anywhere, which is why she called me to try and extract a confession.
    Just say you have no idea what she's talking about and tell her to stop contacting you.

    Not her keys, not her coins.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dump it into monero, claim it got lost. Problem solved.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dump it into monero, claim it got lost. Problem solved.
    >Dump it into monero, claim it got lost. Problem solved.
    Dump it into monero, claim it got lost. Problem solved.
    >Dump it into monero, claim it got lost. Problem solved.
    Dump it into monero, claim it got lost. Problem solved.
    >Dump it into monero, claim it got lost. Problem solved.
    Dump it into monero, claim it got lost. Problem solved.
    >Dump it into monero, claim it got lost. Problem solved.
    Dump it into monero, claim it got lost. Problem solved.
    >Dump it into monero, claim it got lost. Problem solved.
    Dump it into monero, claim it got lost. Problem solved.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is actually a worse idea than pretending it never happened. This would be admitting there was a promise to buy and hold 50 bitcoins.
      Then transferring it to another asset would be misappropriation of funds..

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Tell them you got scammed

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          how would this absolve him of the fact that he owes her money? this is actually the worst advice in this thread: admit to purchasing it for her AND lie about where it went.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Didn't say to admit you purchased it for her. She doesn't have evidence of this. Even if she did, mismanaging of cryptocurrency doesn't make you liable for the claimed value of that cryptocurrency. No court is going to make a multimillion dollar judgement against a guy that, for all they know, is a broke frick.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Even if she did, mismanaging of cryptocurrency doesn't make you liable for the claimed value of that cryptocurrency.
            At the bare minimum, he would still be legally compelled to pay her the initial amount back, adjusted for inflation. And they would monitor his financial transactions for some time afterwards just to make sure that he isn't lying about being broke.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >At the bare minimum, he would still be legally compelled to pay her the initial amount back, adjusted for inflation.
            According to which law? Cryptocurrency wasn't a legally recognized investment at the time he may have invested. If she knows the address, then it will be a lot harder to pull this off. But if she doesn't, then he's in the clear.
            When a business venture fails, the CEO/Founder does not have to pay back its investors unless there was a violation of the investor's rights. He was given an amount to invest on her behalf, and "lost it all". As long as he didn't promise a return, and there's no way to prove he still has access to the account, its very likely he's in the clear.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            But if he has had transactions completed in the past year or so and they know the address, he's pretty much screwed.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So you are actively stealing 50 btc or what?

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I only escaped from the depression BTC pumped over 10 grand. I now have a new GF who is telling me to not give her a penny, that she wasn't there for me, that she doesn't love me like she does, and she dumped me when I was at my lowest, that she would never even think of doing that. Basically exactly what a good girlfriend would actually behave like.

    It's a bait thread but it's a pretty oblivious take once you have in my mind that for a gf your money is also her money.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >steals from someone
    >justifies it
    >considering lying in court to cover the theft while keeping the stolen property
    No wonder she thought you are trash. You clearly are, you fricking gay. Give her her BTC and go outside.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Frick the roastie. Hide your assets, become a passport bro, and live the luxury life in a foreign land.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This. Eastern women will suck your wiener for $7/hour. Just do it.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I know it's not 2010 anymore but when did NSFFW of all places get filled with reddit tier white knights?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Brother, some boards are bad. This is one of them. I’m trying to carry the load here.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      some of us grew up, went outside, and got laid.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I did that and I'm still not whiteknighting for some ho

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          her breaking up with OP doesn't make her a hoe. i keep forgetting i'm talking to literal children on this website.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You were holding 50 BTC for her. It's not your BTC no matter how much you dislike her. You and your new GF also sound like shitty people.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In sum.. op if youre here and not a troll. You asked a forum full of women hating incels and autists with no life experience or reading comprehension skills.

    Here's your real answer. Ive been through legal he said she said money shit with an ex. If she chooses to take legal action, and you decide to lie, it will be a long (im talking potentially years), emotionally draining, stress filled and humiliating ordeal for both of you where your entire relationship will be split open, scrutinized and put on display to figure out everyone's character and actions. And if she has any past communications and bank records, she has a case which will make it all the longer.

    You DID commit a crime, and the amount of money makes it fricking serious af. Worst case scenario, youre in an unbelievable shit frick tonne of trouble.

    Best case scenario, you win and dint have to pay her, but, frankly, with the world of pain youre in for getting there: if you still have your 100 bitcoin, then due to your relative wealth, you will be better off and happier just giving her the 50 bitcoin. It will save you worlds of headache.

    And real talk, your reasoning is kind of childish.
    >she broke up with me then didnt talk to me
    This is completely normal. This is how breakups work. You are responsible for your feelings, not her. People who stay friends with exes are morons of the highest order. It wouldn't have been better on you had she not cut contact.

    So, you are in faxt committing a crime, and your reasoning is that of a 12 year old. For your own good, just do the right thing. Itll benefit YOU not having to deal with what comes next.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lol are all you people children or is america actually a dystopia weirdoland where transactions and depositing money in your bank account is a weird event? I have several bank acvounts I move money between, family/friends are giving me cash are transferring me money for stuff, and I've had sparodic payments for work and all sorts of stuff all the time. If you went through my history of transactions with a comb, none of the parties involved in any of the transactions would be able to tell you what they were for, even for transactions that happened a few months ago.
    OP is talking about like a couple hundred quid that changed hands in cash a decade ago.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Going by the price of BTC in 2014, it would've been around $20,000. That's hardly "a couple hundred quid." Generally people don't just take out tens of thousands of dollars in cash without a serious reason for it.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    she would of never even heard of BTC back then if it wasn't for you. You held through all the bull / bear markets and executed extreme discipline to not cash out any BTC / sell when the market was hot / cold. You deserve all the coin you have, don't give a portion of it away to some dumb b***h who you owe nothing to.
    Keep the BTC OP.
    They're yours, and enjoy the wealth when the next hardcore bull market happens.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If your investment advisor told you about a stock, convinced you to give them money that would be deposited into that stock, and a decade later you wanted that money back, what grounds do they have to say "well I held through all the ups and downs of it and you didnt even know about it until I told you and you stopped talking to me and that hurt my feelings!!!"

      If you give someone money with the intent and promise that it is used one way, and they do not use it that way, it is misappropriation. If they then dont return that money, or the returns on it if it did indeed give the returns promised, that is a crime.

      I have no idea how 14 years old and autistic you have to be to think "well she didnt know til yoh told her!!" Is even remotely an argument for the fact money was given to him by her with the intentuon of being used a way which by now would make her a millionaire.

      Op has committed an actual crime. There is a good debate to be had about whether he can get away with it, but there is no argument what he has done is criminal and the amount of money involved makes it incredibly serious.

      And his entire reasoning is "well.she broke hp with me and it hurt my feelings and my NEW gf says no". So hes also a frickin pussy little b***h who doesnt know how breakups work and need women to coddle his feelings to boot.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I am not reading all of that homosexual

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A bf (you broke up with) is not an investment broker.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    FIRST. this is bait
    SECOND just deny this happened if she sues
    THIRD just say you sold them in 2013 or hatever and give her the cash

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >b-but there is no evidence
    You just made a big load of evidence you fricking moron

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    OP if there is literally any record of her withdrawing that money then you're going to get dragged in court and likely end up owing more than 50bitcoins. Try to just settle out of court and stop being a Black person

    This isn't about right or wrong, this is about not getting sued over petty bullshit

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like she was right to break up with you, what a scumbag. I wouldn't treat my ex the same way you did despite her being a c**t at times. You're stole her money.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    2 girls both trying to steal your btc.
    Why did you tell the new one about it?
    Just tell your old one I have no idea what you are talking about you never gave me money for btc?
    Frick her.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This anon does have a point though. Telling the new one about it can cause her to blackmail you (you will get me what i want or i will testify against you)
      OP pretty much fricked himself.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not really.

        >"You told the new gf you stole from the old, inst that right anon?"
        "No, I told the new gf thats what my old is accusing me of, and now she's blackmailing me with lies to get some for herself"

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    eh it's not about the personal shit at this point it's about the money. and it's not your money.

  30. 1 month ago
    Max Mustermann

    Frick her, don't. She got nothing on you.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ignore her and the simps. Just keep the BTC, pretend you know nothing about whatever she's saying.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >no paper trail
    >no admission

    Get a good lawyer, and give her nothing. Have it be clear to her it will cost her more time and money than she will get.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Its her money. You say so yourself -- her money to buy it with. You're holding it.

    Her dumping you and all the other stuff has no bearing on this, she may well have had good reason to do so.

    You don't need that money anyway, with 100 btc you're already set for life.

    Giving her her money now will save you a lot of headache later on.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >dude just give some b***h who cheated on you and left you for dead millions of dollars

      lmaoo

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        do you think financial transactions suddenly become null and void because people have a personal disagreement?

        "yes I took my client's investment money and ran off with it, but he was a real jerk to me so it's justified"

        from both a legal and moral standpoint, OP is completely in the wrong.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >ITT
    It's truly hilarious how many of you tards think Bitcoin is some kind of magic, untraceable fun money that makes it impossible to uncover financial history and assets.
    If this sees a courtroom then OP is going to get fricked so hard that the transcripts could be posted to Literotica.

  35. 1 month ago
    MKG

    I would arbitrate that you owe her the value of the BTC at the time of the break up.
    You could offer that to avoid the hassle if she persists.

    However, you are not obligated to make it easy for her. Or engage in contact with her in any way.
    If she sues, it might cost you more than you owe. At that point, it might be worth a lawyer consultation to determine if she has a case. There's a time limit by which she'd have to sue so she probably can't do shit if it was a decade ago with only a matching purchase in your name as evidence.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It wasn't worth 2.1 million at the time, and it wasn't stealing. Very disingenuous post.

      ok, imagine this scenario:

      >be investment broker
      >take client's money to invest it in stocks
      >stocks go up, money produces huge returns
      >client wants money back
      >refuse, tell him it's your money now
      >client insists and threatens legal action
      >begrudgingly give him the initial investment back, but keep the returns for yourself

      how do you think the courts would handle this situation?

      this is exactly what you're telling OP to do. and before you say "it's totally different, he's not a broker and they were dating!", it doesn't matter. I've seen cases just like this where someone takes money from a parent, sibling, son, daughter, cousin, girlfriend, best friend, etc. to invest it for them, and if they refuse to give it back, the courts will force them to pay the debt somehow. informal arrangements between friends, family, etc. are still considered binding under the law, especially when large amounts of money are changing hands.

      the only real difference between those cases and this one is that 1. due to the BTC boom, the returns are much huger than they would be for any normal stock (which actually makes things worse for OP, not better), and 2. the OP is unusually confident about his ability to get away with it, probably because he's under the impression that crypto is magic untraceable money that the authorities are utterly helpless against.

      • 1 month ago
        MKG

        >be unpaid volunteer investment broker
        >take client's money to invest it in stocks
        >client decides they don't want to associate with you any more
        >client ruins your personal life and breaks off all contact
        >eight years pass by
        >stocks go up, money produces huge returns
        >client wants money back
        >refuse, tell him it's your money now
        >client insists and threatens legal action
        >begrudgingly give him the amount the investment waa worth when they cut off any association with you, but keep the returns made after that for yourself
        FTFY

        This is why you never accept any large sums of money changing hands without a written contract, especially between friends or family.

        She was dumb and OP owes her, but just morally, not legally. Hard to quantify moral debt or terms of a nonexistent contract.

        How long can you leave a huge wad of cash before it is considered abandoned?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        She isn't a client

    • 1 month ago
      MKG

      >There's a time limit by which she'd have to sue so she probably can't do shit if it was a decade ago with only a matching purchase in your name as evidence.
      In the US, the statute of limitations for an oral agreement like this varies by state. As of 2022, in Louisiana and Rhode Island, it is 10 years. In Wyoming, it is 8 years. The rest of the states range from 2 to 6 years.

      All OP has to do is wait out the statute of limitations before she files a lawsuit and she won't be awarded a judgement against him.

      Holy shit you anons post some very opinionated ignorance.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's already been a decade by the OP

        • 1 month ago
          MKG

          Yup.
          If the OP was accurate, in the US, and he ever actually existed, he is in the clear.

  36. 1 month ago
    MKG

    >anon has roughly $6,500,000 in BTC
    >comes to NSFFW for legal advice
    Classial pottery

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Rape her. She can't sue you whilst your in prison

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Telling women about your net worth
    >ever
    YOU FRICKED UP

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    just say you sold it all

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This its literaly as easy as simply implying it's gone.

      >anon give me the bitcoin
      How much bitcoin do you think I have?
      >don't lie I know you have it
      You're going to waste alot of time and money on this fantasy of yours.
      How much do you think I have?
      >...
      When you talk to a lawyer they will need to know if you can pay them. If there is none you still have to pay them.
      So how much do you think I have?
      >(some number)
      (Laugh at them)
      (go grim faced and quiet)please dont waste all that time and money trying to get blood from a stone. Who's been whispering in your ear? Your sister? How much does she think shes going to get from you?
      >...
      Even if you pursue this, there was no contract, it will be "he said she said", and no more than a value at break up... Will that even pay for the lawyer?
      (Do napkin math) ...nope.

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >50 bucks in cash
    >10 years ago
    >no written contract

    No judge will touch it. Ignoring the bitcoin thing, let's say it's for literally anything else from a theoretical hitman assassination to an exchange of money for top secret information- and your job was to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that there was 50 dollars in cash given to OP 10 years ago, how do you do that???

    • 1 month ago
      MKG

      50 BTC (bitcoin)
      Which was worth nearly $15k in 2014.

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