How do we reunite men and women? We need each other. South Korea has the lowest birth rate in the world.

How do we reunite men and women? We need each other. South Korea has the lowest birth rate in the world. We are talking about potential human extinction here.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >We are talking about potential human extinction here.
    And that's a good thing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >We are talking about potential human extinction here.
      what's the issue?

      You don't really mean that.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >How is it with mankind, whose cause we are to make our own? Is its cause that of another, and does mankind serve a higher cause? No, mankind looks only at itself, mankind will promote the interests of mankind only, mankind is its own cause.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are you ready for a desolated earth? Cause you really should

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >How do we reunite men and women?
        you don't. no need to do what doesn't need to be done
        >We need each other.
        no we don't. the world population has never been so divided in history
        >We are talking about potential human extinction here.
        you say that like it's a bad thing. you reap what you sow. the child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth.

        i do mean it and i am tired of pretending i dont
        world's going down the shitter either way. if it isn't incels continously unable to push evolution forward causing extinction, then massive corporations will cause our demise by the way of chasing limitless profits.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >We are talking about potential human extinction here.
    what's the issue?

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Extinction by not having sex is impossible, there will be just some funneling

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We well, we create a third gender. The presence of an X and Y chromosome implies the existence of a Z chromosome. With a hypothetical Z chromosome, the following new genders would exist: XZ, Varaman. YZ, Tilyuman. ZZ, Zoraman. Varamen can get pregnant, but can only produce tilyuman offspring and females. Tilyumen too can get pregnant, but can only produce varaman offspring, as well as males. Zoramen can create both tilyumen and varamen offspring, as well as other zoramen. The problem with the Z chromosome however, is that individuals with such a chromosome would need to have a set of accessory organs that the current human body simply just doesn't have, owing to the effects of having a new type of chromosome in the human body. The best solution for this would be to have some sort of mutualistic being residing inside of people with the Z chromosome in order to function as their accessory organ, although such a creature would likely have to be artificially made, which would be hard to do considering how fricking shitty genetic engineering is so far. For frick's sake, nothing cool has happened with genetic engineering. Designer babies? Don't get me started on those. They're still the realm of science fiction. We'll have actually intelligent AI long before we ever have reptile people, and even then, AI will never be intelligent.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tale your meds SchiZZo.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I get the feeling you've thought about this a fair bit. Would you care to expand?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      frickin zaggots

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm an incel loser, the whole world can go down the sewers for all I care

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    what can you do anon?
    let people argue if they wanna
    >potential human extinction here.
    As far as I'm concerned we're pretty much dead already
    The only way humans can meaningfully survive long term is if we decide to woek together and not hurt each other which will never happen

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >We are talking about potential human extinction here.

    One can only hope!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who's we? Elections are decided by the masses of morons since there will always be many more morons than intellectuals

      Too many satans in this thread.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There won't be any extinction because as soon as societies collapse due to women not doing their job they lose their leverage over men. Because women can only have an opinion if the state enables them. In real life they are depending on men.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    hold tournaments for selecting people to breed. competition and teamwork makes people horny, hence why war is such a big thing (this is the truth)

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just let it happen. Such a massive issue can't be solved by your average person. It's not our duty. If our leaders won't institute changes, we chose the wrong leaders. We chose this.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who's we? Elections are decided by the masses of morons since there will always be many more morons than intellectuals

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How annoying are women from the UK?

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We should send in whites for the purpose of breeding Asian women, and genetically engineer them so they only give birth to Asian girls.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      why do white men bully asian men so much

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    this graph is moronic. How does one quantify "liberal" and "conservative" as if they're unchanging unshifting standards? This is like that Vox video where they talked about how DANGEROUS it is that LE CONSERVATIVES are becoming MORE EXTREME based on LE SCIENCE DATA when you can't actually fricking quantify a political spectrum as a number when the Overton window is always shifting.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Give everybody dumbphones

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do britbongs really use the term "liberal" in the same way that amerifats do?

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >We are talking about potential human extinction here.

    Unironically there are too many humans. We clearly don't do well in these massive societies.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How do we reunite men and women?
    You can't do it. A runaway hypergamy event is irreversible, no society throughout history ever managed to do it.

    Men will simply for new alliances after the collapse and take servile women for themselves at gunpoint.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >for
      form*

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >We need each other.
    Sounds like Chad's problem. I'm not involved in any way.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically the only way to ensure that things do not revert to a permanent Bronze Age collapse is a mass reduction of the global population and a complete restructuring as to how society and civilization as a whole go about things. Which will never in a million years happen because for some reason there are plenty of bleeding hearts who want a bajillion starving and malformed Bangladeshis whose only purpose is to be a sweatshop slave around and plenty of pedophilic billionaires who want to suck up whatever is left before nothing remains. So frankly I do not really care about the world at large at this point, its fricked, its always been fricked, and will never not be fricked. Even the most optimistic portrayal of the future that has been made still required direct outside intervention from aliens after we spent decades nuking each other into the Medieval age, and even that only happened because of some Isaac Newton tier hermit messing around with warp technology. We are going to go into a new feudal age with flashy neon lights as everyone new born is filled with microplastics all throughout their bodies before they even exit the womb, as the ones running the show keep driving everything into the ground as a display of power. This is what people at large want even if they say otherwise, because nobody bothers doing anything to so much as try and stop it. So frick it, if we self destruct like this then its just the Fermi Paradox doing its work.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Unironically the only way to ensure that things do not revert to a permanent Bronze Age collapse is a mass reduction of the global population and a complete restructuring as to how society and civilization as a whole go about things

      Based. Forever pissed that the right adopted pro-natalist positive eugenics instead of negative eugenics. Watching prison docus has blackpilled me to the reality of prisoners having 6+ heroin addicted babies who grow up to be delinquent morons raised in foster care.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Watching prison docus has blackpilled me to the reality of prisoners having 6+ heroin addicted babies who grow up to be delinquent morons raised in foster care.
        I fail to see what this has to do with a eugenic position. Eugenics means that these men should be sterilised - and possibly their children too, since personality traits which predict crime are heritable.

        You can hold a pro-natalist position in a sense of encouraging people to have children but at the same time practice eugenics in a sense of encouraging pro-social matches or removing people from the gene pool should they reveal themselves as detrimental to public well being.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The problem is that these people are pushing positive eugenics WITHOUT negative eugenics, which will lead us into societal collapse. Malthus was right, infinite population growth cannot be sustained, and we will eventually move into an era where there will be conflict over global resources.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, but despite these dysgenic breeding tendencies, we are 'still' facing demographic collapse. Carrying a bunch of deadbeats wouldn't be that much of an issue if the middle class still had children. The same is true for replacement immigration, which is more of an issue due to the fact that white women don't give birth in sufficient numbers.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think it's all social media, but do you think algorithms could aid in this? A generation of women exposed to leftist ideology through buzzfeed quizzes, and men exposed to rightist ideology through gaming. With social media, people are atomized from a shared social fabric, so men and women are socialized completely differently. There used to be women and men's mags, but people still read the same newspapers. This problem is compounded by parents not raising their kids in their values, and letting social media influence them. My gen alpha brother is already using incel forum slang, and he's only 10 years old.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      People aren't being socialized period.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >My gen alpha brother is already using incel forum slang, and he's only 10 years old.
      Kek, I'm picturing some squeaky voiced kid who hasn't even hit puberty yet complaining about he got heightmogged yesterday.

  21. 2 months ago
    Stormy

    With BWC ofc

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      they only frick white men to spite their own men, they still don't want any kids

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Personally I would never have kids unless these conditions are met. I'll probably just become a cat lady otherwise at some point
    >husband who makes enough to provide for both of us while i'm pregnant
    >isn't one of those men who secretly hates and resents all women
    >if we both work full-time jobs (while i'm not pregnant), he must do 50% of the housework
    >recognizes that having a child is a huge sacrifice since it can destroy a woman's body, and thus pays for any surgeries i want after pregnancy
    The % of modern western men who are capable of fitting into these requirements: 0. The likelihood of me ever having kids: 0.

    It's just easier to not have kids because you lose so much as a woman, and the man gains everything without having to lift a finger most of the time.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >husband who makes enough to provide for both of us while i'm pregnant
      Our healthcare clearly isn't perfect, but I live in Canada, and it's actually reasonably affordable

      >isn't one of those men who secretly hates and resents all women
      This is actually fairly easy to determine early on, as most feel the need to have their views affirmed because they're egotistical. Most men who genuinely hate women, like the ones on here actively avoid relationships. You can also refer to threads where men mess up when messaging women, and it's quite hilarious how oblivious they are.

      >if we both work full-time jobs (while i'm not pregnant), he must do 50% of the housework
      Totally reasonable, but I think this is most common in relationships of millennials and late gen-z where women work full time.

      >recognizes that having a child is a huge sacrifice since it can destroy a woman's body, and thus pays for any surgeries i want after pregnancy
      Honestly every woman worries about medical complications but it's not as rare as you think. Also surgical healthcare expenses are not that bad here.

      >The % of modern western men who are capable of fitting into these requirements: 0
      It makes no sense to be blackpilled as a woman. If you think modern western men are worse than the men elsewhere they're truly not.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Most men who genuinely hate women, like the ones on here actively avoid relationships.
        I think it's more likely that the relationships avoid them, which in turn makes them misogynist.

        Also, most men here are at their heart liberal cucks who want to believe in all that equality nonsense but end up disappointed by reality, when it turns out that the majority of women is not interested in an equitable relationship but they want a guy who outperforms them by all metrics and tells them what to do.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >want to believe in all that equality nonsense but end up disappointed by reality
          Your personal experience is not reality. It's a piece of the pie, but a very narrow perspective.

          >guy who outperforms them by all metrics
          That's fair. I think there is a balance between this and wanting to feel secure in the relationship. I just want someone who is in a similar position in life so we can relate to each other more.

          >tells them what to do
          A lot of young men have that mentality, but it's only helping them look like a shithead. Some women prefer someone more dominant, but I say it's been overblown by the media.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Your personal experience is not reality.
            I hold fairly essentialist views. But in my experience, most online "right wingers" are simply disappointed liberals and if you have them elaborate their world view it's more often than not rooted in a liberal ontology. They're not genuine Chuds, like myself. What I'm saying is: while it may be true that I'm a bad person and the opposite of relationship material, I don't think that's true for the average robot.

            >I just want someone who is in a similar position in life
            Women are outperforming men in terms of educational attainment (https://doi.org/10.1177/000312240607100401), i.e. you're less likely to find someone who is in a similar position, and all the women below you in terms of social status are also competing for those men. That makes it pretty hard to find a partner and you have all reason in the world to be black pilled about it.

            >Some women prefer someone more dominant, but I say it's been overblown by the media.
            That's not my experience but I have no data at hand for this point so I might be wrong on that issue.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Men get easily trapped in Skinner boxes that bang on their dopamine receptors and stagnate as individuals.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, this is completely true. But I think what we experience is not just a matter of men being failed by the system. While you do have some smart individuals, who could have achieved more in life than max level in WoW, who due to detrimental personality traits and no network of friends and guiding figures to compensate, ended up in places like this, I don't think they are the mass of the problem. They're merely very visible on the internet because they have a voice and recognise their issues. The real issue is that half of the population is simply below average. With men generally expressing greater variability than women, this means significantly more men are 'way' below average. They're not going to achieve much. It's illusory to expect everyone to become a data analyst or run a successful business. And I'm not saying the problem is just women here, since men primarily select for age and looks, quite a few high status men end up with low status women, leaving high status women who would not accept less than their peers (and perhaps for good reason) without options.

            I don't think this problem is fixable without legalising polygyny or somehow creating an environment where men and women don't compete in the same status hierarchies making their achievements incommensurable - but with an underlying capitalist logic and money value as the great equaliser, I don't think this is a realistic option. And since women are probably going to be less than thrilled to hand over the rights they fought over, we're in for a tough social climate. The polygyny option could at least give us some time and perhaps also serve as a wake-up call to those who are still fence-sitting.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            If people were cool with polygyny it would be a reality today. Even the damn top dogs can't afford to keep multiple wives.
            Most that you could do is change the alimony laws.
            We have really no need for all these men as of now, there are no great building projects.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Even the damn top dogs can't afford to keep multiple wives.
            The reason why divorces happen is usually because either the woman becomes discontent, due to having married a man who she only begrudgingly accepted, or because the guy had an affair or feels discontent with his current wife because he wants a younger one, which is usually when the mismatch goes in the other direction. If polygyny were legal, women could marry high status men, become their second or third wife if need be, and still have the legal and security benefits of a partnership, not having to worry about families being torn apart, etc. Women could partner with the high status men they desire in committed relationships, since the Chad they're marrying could be certain that he could later add a younger wife, so there is no reason for him to lead her on for sexual access, and the woman, being certain that he's going to commit (although not exclusively) would be more willing to commit as well and thus give birth to his children. Also, we are living in de-facto polygyny already since most women are recycling men from a relatively small in serially monogamous relationships, which however remain childless due to a lack of willingness to commit on both ends, i.e. it wouldn't make life worse for low status men that it already is. It would only 'confront' them with the reality that all those single women they see outside aren't actually available to them since they have no interest and seeing them being taken by high status men would be a good wake-up call to all the people in denial about the dating landscape.

            >We have really no need for all these men as of now, there are no great building projects.
            That might as well be the case, but it's not like they're going to vanish. And in fact: most western countries are importing 'more' low status men through immigration.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It makes no sense to be blackpilled as a woman.
        It very much is, because there simply are not enough men who women would consider marriage material. Take this data from Norway:

        >People generally express a desire for relationships and tend to be happier when coupled up (Argyle, 1999; Diener et al., 2000; Grover and Helliwell, 2019) yet singledom has become more prevalent (Fry and Parker, 2021). Over the past four decades in Norway, the proportion of people not in established relationships has increased from 24% to 33% (Bergloff, 2021). An important driver of this development appears to be how female mate preferences disincentivize women from settling for the increasing number of men who now have relatively lower status and less crucial provisioning to offer (Buss, 2016; Brooks et al., 2022).

        This feeling expressed here is common among women throughout the developed world.

        >For men, the importance of income in predicting ever being married increased steadily over time. Income predicted only 2.5% of the variance in ever marrying for those born in 1890-1910, but about 20% for the 1973 cohort. For women, the opposite is true: the higher a woman's income among those born between 1890 and 1910, the lower her odds of ever being married, explaining 6% of the variance, whereas today a woman's income no longer plays a role in ever being married (https://doi.org/10.1080/19485565.2023.2220950).

        >Unmarried women expect their future husbands to be 30% more likely to be employed and 19% more likely to have a college degree than the unmarried men available. Furthermore, unmarried women expect their future husbands to have an average income that is about 58% higher than that of the unmarried men available. This selectivity was particularly pronounced among highly educated white women, which suggests that growing social status among women amplifies their choosiness (https://doi.org/10.1111/jomf.12603).

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          How is any of that blackpilling for women? All the data you cited says that it comes down entirely on women's demands rather than any objective standards. It's not that they can't find men who bring in more money than they consume, it's that they can't find men who bring in substantially more money than they consume. The women aren't being forced to settle for homeless guys or NEETs, just for average men with average salaries. The horror. This is the equivalent of a guy complaining there aren't enough women with E-cup boobs and they have to settle for a B-cup if they want to date. They're not being forced to date AA-cups or women who have undergone mastectomies, just average girls whose boobs would still feel nice despite not being massive. How is that blackpilling?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You really don't fathom how many men are low income. You can't do shit with that income.
            You should be able to afford a mortgage in a nice area, an education for your children and a comfortable standard of living.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's not really true for multiple reasons. Firstly, men make about the same amount of money as women in the lower age groups and generally more in the older ones. If a woman can live a single life comfortably then things wouldn't get worse by adding a second income at the same level. Secondly, low income is relative. $100k a year in Silicon Valley is poverty tier, while the same amount of money in some rural area gets you a very nice lifestyle. You don't have to live in the most expensive place in the country to be happy. Lastly and as I said in my post, women don't have objective standards such as a man needing to make enough money to give her a comfortable lifestyle. Instead they just want men that meet their subjective expectations. A man making $100k is huge for a woman who earns minimum wage, but unacceptable for a woman making $200k, regardless of whether that $100k would be more than enough for a comfortable lifestyle.

            >How is any of that blackpilling for women?
            It means they won't be able to find a partner they deem adequate. We have substantial evidence that women generally prefer to remain unpartnered than date down, which is also why we're in this mess regarding birthrates, because women marry too late and have children too late, largely because they begrudgingly settle.

            It is also blackpilling in the sense that the Chads they meet on apps aren't willing to commit to them. They're using them for sexual gratification but they're not going to marry them.

            Men and women have different sexual interests. It's equally blackpilling for both genders.

            >It means they won't be able to find a partner they deem adequate
            I know, I'm just saying that isn't a blackpilling situation. To use one of the ever popular food analogies, I would prefer to eat a good medium-rare steak for dinner, but if I all have in the fridge is spaghetti and meatballs then I'll just happily eat that instead. Those still make for an enjoyable meal, I'm not forced to go dumpster diving for half-rotten apples to survive. I reject the notion that spaghetti and meatballs are equally bad as half-rotten apples simply because neither one is as good as the medium-rare steak I wanted. Women are facing a self-caused problem of letting perfect become the enemy of good. This is especially ironic given that women were the ones who demanded entry into the workforce and equal wages and all that jazz only to then complain that now there aren't enough men better than them. This is not blackpilling, this is moronic.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yea and she has a different standard for what is comfortable living and it's living in a metropolitan area where she can actually make use of her degree.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            By your food analogy a woman would have a lower metabolism and she could make do with eating medium-rare steak every other day.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I completely understand what you mean but women can't choose to want what they want. Female choosiness is tied to their own relative social status. From the moment women became equal, when they began to compete with men in the same status hierarchies, more and more men became unattractive to them as potential partners. There is significant data which shows that women would rather be alone than settle for a low status man - despite the suffering it causes to them.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I completely understand what you mean but women can't choose to want what they want
            Sure, but that still doesn't mean their situation is blackpilling, i.e. hopeless. They are in a situation where they have a safety net of decent options that they can always fall back on, which allows them to reach for the stars without fear. Most women eventually end up settling for average guys and most of them are satisfied if not happy with that. Even arranged marriages where the women can't choose their husbands end up being about as functional as "normal" marriages.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Most women eventually end up settling for average guys and most of them are satisfied if not happy with that.
            Yes, but the fraction of never married is getting larger. Also, that is part of the problem: they marry too late in life to have those 2.5 children, which is why we are in this entire mess. And while you may argue that they don't have it 'as' bad as men, since they can be sure that 'someone' is going to want them, they still experience the dating market as fiercely competitive, they are worrying about finding 'the right guy' before their time runs out, etc.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >And while you may argue that they don't have it 'as' bad as men
            Yes, that was my point and I stand by it. Women having to worry about things like whether they can find a guy doesn't mean the scale of the problems they face is anything like what men end up dealing with. I wasn't really commenting on the negative societal effects of this but those actually end up making things even worse, as immigrants to the West are mostly made up of young men that is pushing the demographics in some European countries towards a similar gender imbalance as what is seen in China. A situation where there exist men who would not find a wife even if every single woman their age was married is very different from women wondering whether they will find a guy that meets their expectations.

            [...]
            Essentially what I'm saying is: it is wrong to assume women have the same sexual psychology as men. While many men aren't particularly choosy and would be content with a less than ideal fallback option, the same is not true for women, who experience a much greater amount of sexual disgust towards men they aren't attracted to and for whom the idea of having to marry a less than ideal guy might as well be as harrowing of an idea as having nobody is to men.

            I agree with the notion that men and women are psychologically different, I just don't think that's relevant when it comes to evaluating their situations. I've seen soldiers in a war zone act less distressed than kids who are getting their vaccinations, but I would not make the claim that those kids are going through something worse than the soldiers just because their psychology causes them to react more strongly. One situation is objectively worse, which could easily be proven by making the two parties swap places. Would women be more or less happy if they were in a situation where even securing the average man was a difficult task out of reach for many? We both know the answer to that.

            >Most women eventually end up settling for average guys and most of them are satisfied if not happy with that.

            About 70% of marriages end in divorce.

            80% of divorces are initiated by Women

            I assume the rest of the Women are just cheating.

            The number of divorces is inflated by serial divorcees. If you focus on first-time marriages the number is lower. IIRC it's actually trending down too as fewer people are getting married, since that means the average married couple is more committed to it and often motivated by factors like religiosity. I would also note that not all divorces are caused by unhappiness. The situation is definitely grim but you're making it look even worse than it actually is.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The situation is definitely grim but you're making it look even worse than it actually is.

            im blackpilled

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Most women eventually end up settling for average guys and most of them are satisfied if not happy with that.
            Yes, but the fraction of never married is getting larger. Also, that is part of the problem: they marry too late in life to have those 2.5 children, which is why we are in this entire mess. And while you may argue that they don't have it 'as' bad as men, since they can be sure that 'someone' is going to want them, they still experience the dating market as fiercely competitive, they are worrying about finding 'the right guy' before their time runs out, etc.

            Essentially what I'm saying is: it is wrong to assume women have the same sexual psychology as men. While many men aren't particularly choosy and would be content with a less than ideal fallback option, the same is not true for women, who experience a much greater amount of sexual disgust towards men they aren't attracted to and for whom the idea of having to marry a less than ideal guy might as well be as harrowing of an idea as having nobody is to men.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Most women eventually end up settling for average guys and most of them are satisfied if not happy with that.

            About 70% of marriages end in divorce.

            80% of divorces are initiated by Women

            I assume the rest of the Women are just cheating.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            FRICK thats brootal man
            average life of not even beta buxx but most normies now

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's crazy to me how robots can see pics like that and then complain about not having a gf instead of realizing that they dodged a bullet.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Everybody thinks they are special and that it wouldn't happen to them

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >How is any of that blackpilling for women?
            It means they won't be able to find a partner they deem adequate. We have substantial evidence that women generally prefer to remain unpartnered than date down, which is also why we're in this mess regarding birthrates, because women marry too late and have children too late, largely because they begrudgingly settle.

            It is also blackpilling in the sense that the Chads they meet on apps aren't willing to commit to them. They're using them for sexual gratification but they're not going to marry them.

            Men and women have different sexual interests. It's equally blackpilling for both genders.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Women would rather big the Kings concubine than the potters wife.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >This is the equivalent of a guy complaining there aren't enough women with E-cup boobs and they have to settle for a B-cup if they want to date.
            But here's the thing you don't get about us (ESPECIALLY as a guy who believes that flat is justice):
            Men can't settle for those B-cups. They'd be barely lucky enough if they get an A-cup after bending over backwards to please her. We're talking gouging 40% of his monthly income on bullshit gifts, regardless of how much he makes. If he's rich, she'll demand more.
            You REALLY don't understand the state of hoe-flation out here.
            >A man making $100k is huge for a woman who earns minimum wage, but unacceptable for a woman making $200k
            Again, I'd like to compare that to the male standards. Where most of the people on this website would be fine with dating someone who makes HALF as much as he does, but the girl won't bite. She demands 100K+, even though she makes 40K. That's MOST women.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think you understood my point. I'm saying that the problems that women face aren't really blackpilling because they are entirely self-caused. They aren't put in a situation where they simply have no options, but instead ignore the decent options in the hope that something even better shows up.

            Yea and she has a different standard for what is comfortable living and it's living in a metropolitan area where she can actually make use of her degree.

            >Yea and she has a different standard for what is comfortable living
            Yes, that's the crux of the whole issue. Her situation is entirely the product of her having very steep expectations, just like a guy refusing to date anything smaller than E-cups. It's not even remotely comparable to not having any options, which is what I would actually call blackpilling. A position where you can afford to be picky is one of privilege.
            >living in a metropolitan area where she can actually make use of her degree
            She can work in a metropolitan area without needing to make a huge amount of money, especially if she's willing to spend some time commuting to work. If her degree is actually worth something then odds are she could also find work in smaller cities or even have the chance to work mostly/entirely remotely.

            By your food analogy a woman would have a lower metabolism and she could make do with eating medium-rare steak every other day.

            I'm not entirely sure I follow. Are you saying that because women don't really need men that much it means they can afford to be more picky about the men they choose? In that case I'd agree, which is exactly why I don't see their situation as blackpilling. They are ultimately choosing to be in that situation of their own volition. My life would be miserable if I had to hit myself in the balls every day, but thankfully I've chosen not to do that.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        well I'm usually more abrasive here and do come off as more "blackpilled" than I am irl. appreciate the response, husbando material anon.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How do we reunite men and women?
    We can't.

    With modern education and employment opportunities raising their social status, women simply aren't interested in the majority of men. The only way to solve this is to legalise polygyny or to restrict women's rights.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >We are talking about potential human extinction here

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What? the graph just shows that libs are growing at lower rate in skor than other countries and conservatives at faster rate than anyone else, of course the gap would wide.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://voca.ro/1mavozJB4M4E

  27. 2 months ago
    lesbianloserlurker

    we don't time for gender separated society where men and women only interact for breeding

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    by posting on NSFFW about how much we hate women

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Koreans don't reproduce, who cares.

    This graph is moronic anyway, cuz I doubt most people support whatever parties, it's just online freaks, so no doubt they'd have drastically contrasting positions

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Koreans don't reproduce, who cares.
      Western societies don't reproduce either. If you factor out immigration and single motherhood (which is less common in South Korea), the birthrates in the west, especially in Europe, are comparably low.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I ment it in context of the graph, Koreans have the biggest gap between men and women, EU is way smaller.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          South Korea is just ahead of the curve. In Europe right wing parties are winning elections.

          Gender relations aren't going to improve but they're going to get worse.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It happened before. It'll one of those:
    >1. The society completely collapses
    >2. The society is replaced by immigration or invasion by those who didn't gave women rights
    >3. The men of said society gets done with everything and takes away women's right

    Also women depends on the gaslighting and mental tactics to manipulate men into thinking they have some sense of power. So this chart is good actually. And that's why no one will do shit. Because women can use this as a bargaining chip, like they are doing in South Korea 4B, and men are just waiting for everything to collapse or to everyone to get so pissed off they won't care about consequences.

    If people and society wanted a dialog they wouldn't let things get to this point and wouldn't try to antagonize each other.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >human extinction
    Good. The sooner, the better. Especially if every moid dies a slow, painful one.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >breeding bratty femanons to extend the inevitable and condemning ones children to a life of even greater misery

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      why attach an image of a boy while making a post like that, doe

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why Korea? Why? You were the chosen ones. Both Korean women and Korean men are hot, and beloved the world over.

    How did we get here?

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Women are objectively already favored in education, employment, courts, and social settings. Men have to deal with genital mutilation and nobody cares, women have to deal with abortion issues and it's a huge deal. But despite this, women still think they're being oppressed because some random homeless Black person on the subway said they had a fat ass and made them feel uncomfortable, and so they vote the moronic leftist policies that ironically leads to policies that make women more vulnerable like third world immigration and gun control and so they double down because obviously it's still white male patriarchy causing all of this. That's the jist of it.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What young women believe ultimately doesn't matter, only young men. If shit gets bad enough young men can just take away womens rights again and throw them back in the kitchen. Besides, most of these women will end up dating these guys and being influenced by their politics (hence why older women are more conservative). Like I said though, as long as young men are based we're fine.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >most of these women will end up dating these guys and being influenced by their politics
      I find it more likely that the people who are becoming more conservative are the guys who aren't dated by them. The successful guys who live content lives aren't incentivised to overthrow the system.

      But that ultimately doesn't matter because their political power matters all the same.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dont care also birthrates in developed countries are below 2.1
    Even if I dont think developed neocapitalist countries are really made for having kids

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    All these homies talking about some bullshit ITT

    Here's the 101:

    WOMEN WILL NOT MARRY AND REPRODUCE UNLESS YOU TAKE THEIR RIGHTS AWAY.

    INCENTIVES TO MARRY AND HAVE CHILDREN DO NOT WORK

    • 2 months ago
      Stormy

      t. shitjeet

      gtfo

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You'll never convince these idiots because they actually believe women are rational actors capable of the same depth of planning as men.

      • 2 months ago
        Stormy

        >breeding is more important than Women's rights

        shitjeet pls go

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >breeding is more important than Women's rights
          NTA, but yes.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          is more important than Women's rights
          Always has been. You'll see global leaders changing their tune once it becomes a problem.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you as in the incels on this board?
    you dont, because if you were capable of thinking you wouldnt become conservatives or incels

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    normy take: it is men's fault, they are more "misogynist" than they were in the 1950s!
    fedora take: it is women's fault, they are brainwashed by feminism
    patrician take: it is men's fault, we became decadent and let our culture be taken over by mass media, women were always going to be more susceptible to propaganda and it was our job to protect them from foreign influences

    There is a massive propaganda campaign to get people to hate white men and get rid of white men for not being "diverse", if any of you fricks sort yourselves out and get a job that doesn't involve wearing a paper hat you will be racially discriminated against. That said, as much as an embarrassment as you are, if you make good followers we won't exclude you the way society has done.

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's very easy but it won't be done so I don't think it's worth discussing.

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Here is what you do:
    Embrace Christ.
    Go to church.
    Go to a free church.
    95% of churches arent even Christian anymore. Go to a church where contraception is a sin, where the earth is 6000 years old, where women are forbidden from preaching and where everyone has 10 children.
    And marry and have 10 children.
    If we have 10 children and the leftists have 0, guess who is going to be around in 3-4 generations?
    Its very simple math

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >We are talking about potential human extinction here.
    No we are not. Third world countries are still having babies like crazy. We are looking at the extinction of developed liberal democracies. Which hopefully happens oh my god.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Third world countries
      >human

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    lol i dunno bro. the bright side of the current state of things is I can be realistic see what people are like with less stringent social standards. Even If I could have been a family man in the 50s, I still would have been a gross mouth breathing autist that wouldn't be able to mentally adjust if my wife cheated on me with the milk man or neighbor.
    I am blackpilled, but I am free.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We are watching natural processes take place. Theres no stopping it. Just watch in awe

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    First and second world phenomenon. We might be talking about significant declines in the quality of life, but the Africans and Arabs will keep fricking and just oppress women horribly. We are talking about major backsliding yes, but not human extinction.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Misogyny is the best baby maker. All the patriarchal countries are shitting out a ton of babies. Its why the central Asian birthrate is much higher than East Asia and Europe.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I do not see it happening. Something huge has changed. It trends worse more often than not.

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >We are talking about potential human extinction here.
    There will be plenty of Black folk don't worry

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How do we reunite men and women?
    Don't. The solution is to kill them all.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are you saying all the males should be exterminated, all the females, or all the humans? Your usage of 'them' is ambiguous in this situation. Noted

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm on team male, but it doesn't really matter. Just start the violence.

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Humanity sucks, we should go extinct. This is fine.

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