How have you dealt with "autogynephilic" feelings?

How have you dealt with "autogynephilic" feelings?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    when i was 12 my """room""" was a pile of dogshit of all kinds including clothes that aren't mine and was like a storage room with a bed, at nights i would wake up and wear her undies and use something like a bottle to emulate getting fricked without inserting
    tho i had an insertion thing when i was 9 or 8 i think when I'd go to toilets
    >porn
    no just fricked up from ostracization, girls in primary and middle school treated me like absolute human scum because other boys who happen sometimes to be their crushes/bf sollicited them to and i got bullied a fricklot even tho i fought back they'd just double down and the teachers and my family, so i emulated having a girl near me by taking the role or lusting over dolls
    I don't have any now more like suicidopholic feelings hahaha

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >her
      i mean my mom ive been sleepless for two days don't mind me

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't you still like the idea of being a girl? Does it not seem pleasurable?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I know it's delusional, it's interesting and arrousing but i erase it
        but what interests me more is the idea that i wouldn't reach these levels of fricked up if i were female

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >it's interesting and arrousing but i erase it
          I wish it didn't feel like I have this hanging over me. Or maybe that it wasn't. I also ultimately ignore it. Even though of course I would enjoy having a girl body.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      escapism. playing as girls in games, reading troon manga, drawing cute girls. beats actually trooning out thats for true

      You will never be a woman. You are experiencing mental illness. Get help from someone who doesn't believe in perpetuating your illness.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You will never be a woman.
        What precisely do you mean by this? I know I'm not physically female, how does that stop be from fantasizing about being one?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >What precisely do you mean by this?
          Exactly what it says. Fantasizing about yourself as the opposite gender is very harmful to your self esteem and self image. You are not a woman and wishing it were otherwise will just drive you further down the hole of misery. Accept your fate and move on with your life.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Accept your fate and move on with your life.
            how
            what if it gets worse?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's not going to get worse. You feeding the delusion is what is making it worse. Come back to reality before it's too late.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            how do i stop feeling envy of girls then? I also don't follow why you're calling it a "delusion". Why is fantasizing about it a delusion? Like I can't look at girls sometimes and not feel envy that I can't be one, I don't get how you're saying it works that I could just stop that in this way

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm sorry for calling your experience a "dillusion", that was a bit harsh on my end. The envy will decrease in time. You must remind yourself EVERY time that feeling comes up that you are a man and that's okay. In time you will make peace with the fact that you are not apart of that group we call "females." In reality (I mean outside of your opinion), females are creatures that are able to give birth to more humans. That's it. They don't have anything special besides that. They do not exist to make you envy them, that's your own interpretation of reality. Keep these things in mind when you are around them.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >and that's okay.
            But what do you mean it's okay? Also I've tried telling myself I'm happy as a man I think but I still envy girls sometimes.
            >The envy will decrease in time.
            i dont know about that..

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >But what do you mean it's okay?
            It's okay to be born a man. It's okay to exist as a man.

            >i dont know about that..
            It will. You're not born on this planet to have an easy going at it. Life is hard. Life is suffering, and denying yourself the things today that you think is good for you, will actually benefit you later. That's what makes you a responsible human being.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It's okay to be born a man. It's okay to exist as a man.
            i don't know what you mean by *that* but if it's okay to exist as a man I don't see how that means it wouldn't be even better to be a girl or anything
            >and denying yourself the things today that you think is good for you, will actually benefit you later.
            i don't think that's necessarily true unless you mean something else by "benefit" that i may not even want

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >it wouldn't be even better to be a girl
            You're not a girl. You will never be a girl. That's not in the cards, man. It's only in your head that the possibility even exists. Throw it away. It's a poison that causes you to envy actual women for the crime of being born what you idolize.

            >that i may not even want
            Your choices are your own. Either way you reap what you sow. I don't know if your choices will affect those around you or people who love you; I'm not talking about that because I don't know your situation. My point is a personal one.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You're not a girl. You will never be a girl. That's not in the cards, man. It's only in your head that the possibility even exists.
            I know
            >It's a poison that causes you to envy actual women for the crime of being born what you idolize.
            I suppose I don't really think that's the cause.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I suppose I don't really think that's the cause.
            Tell me. What do you think the cause is?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >What do you think the cause is?
            I'm just attracted to being a girl. Don't see how I'm supposed to make it go away, even if I acknowledge I'm not actually a girl. How do you expect me to make the attraction go away? Why would it go away just because I know it can't be fulfilled?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're not attracted to "being a girl" because you have no fricking idea what that even means. You've never lived as a girl even for a second. You are fetishizing a make believe existence. I'm sorry to be so harsh about it but it's the truth. You are a low creature of envy and fantasy. I feel bad for you. I hope you think about this conversation and remember to remind yourself of the truth: you will never EVER be a woman and you have NO IDEA what it means to be a woman.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You've never lived as a girl even for a second.
            What? It's easy to imagine being one.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It will. You're not born on this planet to have an easy going at it. Life is hard. Life is suffering, and denying yourself the things today that you think is good for you, will actually benefit you later. That's what makes you a responsible human being.
            nobody was born on the planet for any reason at all. suffering for suffering's sake is pointless. responsibility without reason is worthless.
            if that were true then coal miners and child soldiers in africa will benefit the most from life

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        that's literally my point. I know I'll never be a woman that's why I use escapism as a means to cope with it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        i don't care if im not going to be a woman. it's the only known working way to cope with this illness

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Suicide unironically. Do it OP

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    escapism. playing as girls in games, reading troon manga, drawing cute girls. beats actually trooning out thats for true

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Titano once told me she was groomed into thinking she was an FtM trsnny by some guy on Instagram when she was 12.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >FtM trsnny
      No I don't care I'm not talking about ftm

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    One time while really drunk and high I imagined myself having huge breasts. I rather enjoyed the feeling and was sad I did not in fact have huge breasts. Spent an evening wondering if I'm a troony. The next morning felt normal again. I just really like breasts.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gender affirming activities and grooming. Lifting weights to increase my masculine frame, growing out my facial hair, cutting my hair short, wearing more masculine designed clothing.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah. When I was in high school, everyone around me hated men and this naturally led to me hating myself and wanting to be a girl, I think. It's gone away now that I'm mostly by myself, although feminine beauty still exerts a significant influence over me psychologically. I like looking at and experiencing beautiful things, women are beautiful, therefore I collect lots of images of anime girls to cope with the lack of femininity in my life (and maybe with my fear of it, I dunno).
    Thinking that everything would change if you were a girl is likely a coping mechanism more often than not, OP. If it's just sexual attraction to the idea, that's a lot different (are you bisexual? submissive? what in particular arouses you about thinking of yourself as a woman?). But of course those two things get mixed up because the male sex drive is incredibly strong and pervasive.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just imagine I'm a girl when I'm horny, I jerk off, and then forget about it. Doesn't really affect me tbh. If I could press a button and become a cute female with a real vegana and everything I would immediately but I'm okay the way I am

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe I just need to figure out how to accept living with not having something I can't have.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    repression, im not talking to a therapist let alone anybody about it

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    crossdressing at costume parties but then being normal the rest of the time

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fap, then it goes away for me. My agp is pretty mild

    I realize this isnt helpful its just my experience

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just beat off to solo traps sometimes. I realize it's only a side effect of the unnatural conditions in which I'm forced to inhabit and move on. It's not that serious.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine you but with chronic pain and bleeding and trashy morons who can't even brush their teeth or wipe their ass obviously trying to have sex with you (only once though) and will never leave you alone.

    Be happy you were blessed with freedom to do whatever you want without anyone harassing you 24/7.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you but with chronic pain and bleeding and trashy morons who can't even brush their teeth or wipe their ass obviously trying to have sex with you (only once though) and will never leave you alone.
      i already have all of this

      >Be happy you were blessed with freedom to do whatever you want without anyone harassing you 24/7.
      people already harass me 24/7 for my few hobbies, poor skill in vidya, and inability to do "basic" things like draw or play instruments

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I always just kept them among my other fetishes, but I've been watching and reading some looksmaxxing stuff and I can't help but feel like I'm trooning a little bit... You know, taking care of skin, improving eyelashes, putting a bit too much focus on the butt during my workouts...

    I imagine this autogynephillic thing developed as escapism. I never felt desired, even in elementary school the girls would laugh at me, etc etc, so it's easy to let the mind wander and as a teenager I would find myself daydreaming about looking like (not "being" per se) a hot girl and getting lustful looks and catcalls from both men and women. It's really just about feeling desired, I don't even want to hook up with anyone, sex seems daunting and unnecessary.

    So nowadays I "cope" (actually getting myself deeper down the abyss) by jerking off to AI generated erotica and porn games where I'm an attractive trap (looking like a hot girl without giving up my dick and my identity). But being fair, I stopped daydreaming about this stuff when I started jerking off to this. I guess it's just something that needs relief.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm used to just kinda having them now, no specific way I deal with those feelings. I know it stemmed from a lot of things tho.

    I was never desired by family or at school, and girls always just had life easy, no pressure to be confident or to lead, they were always liked or had friend groups, if you were shy or inexperienced it would be seen as a positive, if you have weird interests it becomes socially acceptable instead of it making you an outcast or loser.

    As for the physical side, being a girl would mean you're cute and have softer skin, all the way to the hedonistic view where women have better and multiple orgasms. You'd just get to lay face down in the sheets and be lost in the pleasure while your much bigger boyfriend fricks you. No effort for a much bigger reward.

    Then one night I had a dream where I was a girl, I remember my skin being soft, having long hair, and I was having sex. I felt him inside of me, my arms and legs wrapped around him, then I woke up after he came inside me. It felt amazing...

    A lot of things would've went right for me if I was a girl, but I know I'll have to come up terms with the fact I'll never have those things in this life.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I had a dream where I was a girl, I remember my skin being soft, having long hair, and I was having sex. I felt him inside of me, my arms and legs wrapped around him, then I woke up after he came inside me. It felt amazing...
      I've never had that happen to me

      I'm sorry anon. It's gates of hell. If you will avoid pinkpill and live normal life then good for you. But it's unlikely.
      AGP fantasies made my dysphoria much worse than it used to be. I mean I always had dysphoria, since 5 yo. I just didn't know how it's called. When I found out about HRT it was over for me.

      >I mean I always had dysphoria, since 5 yo.
      I dont think I ever really noticed that. I did some girl acting "outbursts" and was shot down, but

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i once had a dream where a dog fricked me in the ass and knotted me hard while some ladies stroked my hair and told me everything would be ok, am i a literal b***h now?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's still scary for one, out of all things, to think im going to live the rest of my life knowing i would click a button to change into a girl. and feeling envy about girls for now at least, maybe forever

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          if it was possible without being a Troon(tm) i'd do it too but mostly because

          i wish i was a girl so all the crazy fetish shit i do would be considered cute instead of cringe

          I don't have AGP fantasies or """~~*dysphoria*~~""" but it would make my life much easier

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            fetish stuff like what?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            all of them.

            It's wild you think that, folks think being an ugly woman is their ticket to a better life.

            even ugly women get treated better than average men

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i wish i was a girl so all the crazy fetish shit i do would be considered cute instead of cringe

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's wild you think that, folks think being an ugly woman is their ticket to a better life.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I just want to jerk off as a woman. The pleasure I would experience from being a woman while being penetrated and having sex is almost immeasurable

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sorry anon. It's gates of hell. If you will avoid pinkpill and live normal life then good for you. But it's unlikely.
    AGP fantasies made my dysphoria much worse than it used to be. I mean I always had dysphoria, since 5 yo. I just didn't know how it's called. When I found out about HRT it was over for me.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No and I hope for mercy on whatever soul is plagued with this stuff.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You read about metaphysics and figure out that your thinking is wrong and comes from a place of self-reference that is ultimately circular.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      really? what kind of philosophy, how's it circular?

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah. It was a lot stronger when I was younger and now it's something I think of less often. I don't dress up anymore, partly because after puberty I don't have the physical structure to do so anymore

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >partly because after puberty I don't have the physical structure to do so anymore
      Sad

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