I feel really depressed knowing I'm 31 and I never had a woman in love with me. How do I stop feeling this way?

I feel really depressed knowing I'm 31 and I never had a woman in love with me.
How do I stop feeling this way? It's really bothering me.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop caring. Focus on being someone you want to be instead of who they want you to be.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Focus on being someone you want to be instead of who they want you to be.
      I still have to figure that out.

      Have you ever asked a girl out?

      >Have you ever asked a girl out?
      Yes I've asked out girls in my life, but never got even a date.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Have you ever asked a girl out?

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I never had a woman in love with me
    No man has ever had this, so nothing to worry about

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's time to change yourself, anon. Know that there are many depressed girls out there too. They're depressed because guys like you (and formerly me) are opting to stay at home, watching porn / anime and playing video games all day, adopting the ideology of hateful womanizers and racists who are terminally online and contributing to the downfall of society, instead of trying to be a decent person who brightens up the lives of those around you, participating in and building up a community, learning and using your skills to make other people happy, and fighting for the world you really believe in, which is a kinder, more romantic sort of earth. Girls want guys like you to pull yourself together. They're waiting for your love so they can trust theirs won't go to waste.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Know that there are many depressed girls out there too. They're depressed because guys like you (and formerly me) are opting to stay at home
      NTA but okay... where are those women? I don't see them outside so they are probably shut ins too. It takes 2 to tango. Women are not outside to meet a guy.
      What you wrote sounds nicely, something I wish was the truth, but I am not seeing it being real.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >where are those women?
        All sorts of places. Some are at home on dating sites, some go to comic and anime conventions, some can be found in book stores, some can be met at work in an office, some can be found in class at a university, some are attending yoga or a game jam. A lot of these girls are in STEM or are into anime and can be found at anime fan clubs both offline and online, and not all of them are obese, although a chubby girl isn't necessarily a bad thing if you're a balding guy.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh so they are in non specifically socializing places so in other words they are not putting themselves out there aka not interested in relationships! Got ya!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They are interested in having a relationship with someone who is a decent human being, which is hard to come by, but the chances are increased in those places

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >They are interested in having a relationship with someone who is a decent human being

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're your own worst enemy

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >All you have to do is be a le decent fricking human!
            >N-no don't look at who actually has success with women, don't believe your lying eyes!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Most men who have real success with women, as in get married, have kids and stay married lifelong, are precisely who I am referring to

            >They are interested in having a relationship with someone who is a decent human being
            Personal experience says otherwise for me, but this generalization isn't wrong, however, after being ignored by woman my age for years; now that I have some value I only date younger, and I am told I am a horrible person for this? Why is that?

            You need to interact with different girls, probably less Americans

            What places? Anime conventions are non existant where I live and they are for creepy smelly pervs, gays and females. I am neither.
            I already finished STEM major, this part gives me nothing. Bookstores? Aka the place people go to buy a book and leave?
            They are small enough that one failed pick up attempt would get me banned from that place.
            They wouldnt want to lose consumers.

            So in other words they are not showing up in places, showing they are interested in relationship. Understood!

            >What places?
            See

            >where are those women?
            All sorts of places. Some are at home on dating sites, some go to comic and anime conventions, some can be found in book stores, some can be met at work in an office, some can be found in class at a university, some are attending yoga or a game jam. A lot of these girls are in STEM or are into anime and can be found at anime fan clubs both offline and online, and not all of them are obese, although a chubby girl isn't necessarily a bad thing if you're a balding guy.

            >there are a lot of girls out there looking for guys like us, we just need to step up.
            Unironically lol'd, this is prime bait.

            It's not bait

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >See

            >where are those women?


            All sorts of places. Some are at home on dating sites, some go to comic and anime conventions, some can be found in book stores, some can be met at work in an office, some can be found in class at a university, some are attending yoga or a game jam. A lot of these girls are in STEM or are into anime and can be found at anime fan clubs both offline and online, and not all of them are obese, although a chubby girl isn't necessarily a bad thing if you're a balding guy. #
            Yeah those are shitty places that you pointed out my homie, as I edplained it to you. Did you read anything past those two words?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's nothing wrong with those places

            you can't possibly be fricking serious

            Improve your EQ, it's dangerously low.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >There's nothing wrong with those places
            I explained very well what is wrong with those places. If they are the only ones you can conjure up, then clearly they are not interested.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            how about you suck my wiener you humongous moron
            the 'many depressed girls out there' are sucking ad fricking their way to triple digit bodycounts, no matter how much they b***h and moan to you about how empty it is

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Seek therapy for your mental illness

            >men need to change but women don't
            men live in a cursed reality

            Both need to change

            If you stay at home all day watching porn / anime and playing video games, and you think like the internet hate machine thinks, then you have bad habits and you need to change

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Both need to change
            What do you think women need to change?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Emotional maturity, understanding that a relationship needs effort on both sides, knowing how to make a guy feel more secure and knowing which guys are appropriate for them

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            women don't change lol that is how it works, society stablished that men need to do everything to be "worthy" of a woman (that's what you did), that's why there are very few cases of women being the ones stepping up, even a woman that is madly in love with you would wait for you to confess
            if anything they'll change after ruining a man

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Some women do change. Most men and women don't change. Don't be the average and don't settle for the average.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Don't be the average and don't settle for the average.
            Easy to say when you start out with above average genetics.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You'll find any excuse to not grow up, because that's your game. Until you play a different game, you'll always get the same result.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Most men change and most women don't change*

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Seek therapy for your mental illness
            sorry, but that's the way the world works

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            According to your rotted brain, yes

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            single 'depressed girls' aren't just sitting around waiting for someone, they're going out and fricking as many people as they can for the sole reason that they're able to and it feels good
            single depressed guys (me, the target audience of your shitty bait message) meanwhile, have absolutely nothing

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Depressed girls don't necessarily sleep around. Many of them are introverts, and some of them have had bad past experiences and are now aware of which kinds of guys aren't appropriate for them, so they refrain from just shacking up with anyone.

            You could choose to view womanizing as a specific kind of misogyny if you insisted, but you're calling generic misogyny that is clearly not womanizing as womanizing.
            Actually take a second to read your own screenshot, how does
            >A womanizer is a man who always seems to have a new girlfriend, and who has no hesitation about starting up a new relationship before he's ended the last one
            possibly apply to the incels you're calling womanizers ITT?

            >you're calling generic misogyny that is clearly not womanizing as womanizing.
            The misogyny prevalent on this site mixes the two discreetly, hence the toxic view of loneliness that showed up in this thread earlier. Guys here are womanizers, whether they actually get laid or not. They treat women like boxes on a list to check off, and they project this view onto women, thinking that women couldn't be lonely when their inboxes are flooded with messages on dating apps. If they were more attractive, they'd instantly become womanizers — they'd sleep around as much as possible and deceive women with pretty words to do it. Their view of women, society, sex, relationships, and love all indicate this. All of this can be summed up as toxic masculinity.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Guys here are womanizers, whether they actually get laid or not.
            That's not how anybody understands the meaning of the word. Womanizers are successful with women by definition, read your definitions again. Do you have an emotional attachment to using that work despite it not being appropriate?

            >If they were more attractive, they'd instantly become womanizers
            That's very possible, but they're not attractive and thus can't be womanizers. The way you've phrased this suggests that you do understand that womanizers are necessarily successful with women?

            >All of this can be summed up as toxic masculinity.
            Just for my amusement, what do you think is "positive masculinity"? Or does that not exist?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jungian psychologists have regarded the Don Juan personality type as fundamentally misogynistic for decades.

            >That's very possible, but they're not attractive and thus can't be womanizers.
            Psychologically, they're still womanizers, because a womanizer is just an attractive misogynistic man-child. Take away the physical attraction, and you have the same individual; he's just not getting laid.

            >Just for my amusement, what do you think is "positive masculinity"?
            Feminist masculinity — men who don't treat women as objects, animals, or slaves, but as fellow human beings.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Jungian psychologists have regarded the Don Juan personality type as fundamentally misogynistic for decades.
            Do you understand that A->B doesn't imply B->A?
            I'm not arguing against you calling womanizers misogyny, but it's completely wrong to call all misogynists womanizers when they fail to meet the necessary condition of actually womanizing.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >it's completely wrong to call all misogynists womanizers
            It really makes no difference. Guys on here are all womanizers, or would-be.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >or would-be
            This entirely changes the meaning of what you're saying. Lots of people "would-be" professional athletes and actors, but they can't be.
            >Guys on here are all womanizers
            All, 100%? Probably not true.

            It sounds like you just want to rant, but if you're not and actually want to convince people of your views it's actually helpful *to you* to be accurate in your words and reasoning. Stubbornly using clearly wrong terms and arguing for them while posting screenshots that prove yourself wrong doesn't' help any case you're trying to make.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >This entirely changes the meaning of what you're saying.
            No, it doesn't. I use the word womanizer because it refers to a specific kind of misogyny that's prevalent on here, one that treats sex with women like a game or a competition and objectifies and dehumanizes women in the process. The word is a completely valid one.

            >All, 100%?
            Most. Don't nit-pick, it makes you look desperate.

            >Stubbornly using clearly wrong terms and arguing for them while posting screenshots that prove yourself wrong doesn't' help any case you're trying to make.
            Drop the pretense, you're not fooling me with it. You've been wrong the entire thread and you continue to be.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You've been wrong the entire thread and you continue to be.
            What are you talking about? The only posts I've made here are arguing against you using words that are so clearly wrong they stand out like a sore thumb.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I haven't used a single word incorrectly here.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >some of them have had bad past experiences and are now aware of which kinds of guys aren't appropriate for them
            ignoring the fact that your first statement is wrong; all girls sleep around solely because they can and it feels good, this is just straight up saying the let a run through woman settle for you

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >They are interested in having a relationship with someone who is a decent human being
            Personal experience says otherwise for me, but this generalization isn't wrong, however, after being ignored by woman my age for years; now that I have some value I only date younger, and I am told I am a horrible person for this? Why is that?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What places? Anime conventions are non existant where I live and they are for creepy smelly pervs, gays and females. I am neither.
            I already finished STEM major, this part gives me nothing. Bookstores? Aka the place people go to buy a book and leave?
            They are small enough that one failed pick up attempt would get me banned from that place.
            They wouldnt want to lose consumers.

            So in other words they are not showing up in places, showing they are interested in relationship. Understood!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >There's nothing wrong with those places
            I explained very well what is wrong with those places. If they are the only ones you can conjure up, then clearly they are not interested.

            >Anime conventions are non existant where I live
            Consider moving somewhere where they exist then, if you like anime

            >they are for creepy smelly pervs, gays and females
            Many girls who like anime are tender sweethearts who have nothing to do with hookup culture and are looking for more introverted guys to date, are these not the kind of girls you're interested in? If not, don't even reply to me, you are not who my message is for

            >Aka the place people go to buy a book and leave?
            It's a place to bump into someone who has similar reading taste or other crossover interests

            >They are small enough that one failed pick up attempt would get me banned from that place.
            You don't go there to "pick up" but to buy books and make friends, and from there see what happens

            >So in other words they are not showing up in places
            They show up in all these places, your conclusion is logically unsound

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Consider moving somewhere where they exist then, if you like anime
            Just change your entire life around bro so that you can check if my theory is correct.

            >Many girls who like anime are tender sweethearts
            Maybe it is so, but I am a man who isnt a gay, creepy or fat so its not a place for me. Its for those kind of guys and girls.
            Girls who if wanted to meet a nice guy would also consider other places.
            The fact that they dont proves otherwise.

            >It's a place to bump into someone who has similar reading taste or other crossover interests
            No it is not. Its for people to get a book and leave. Also I dont read so I wouldnt even have anything to talk about.

            >You don't go there to "pick up" but to buy books and make friends, and from there see what happens
            So you admit women dont go there to be approached and picked up. Got ya!
            Also I have NEVER seen anyone ever approach a woman in a book store.

            >They show up in all these places, your conclusion is logically unsound
            Yeah and these places are not for meeting people for the reason we are talking about here.

            If they were interested they would go out alone on their own and give men slight hint of being open to an approach.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Just change your entire life around bro
            To find someone appropriate for you, yes. It's the same with your career. Makes no sense to think otherwise

            >Maybe it is so, but I am a man who isnt a gay, creepy or fat so its not a place for me.
            It's not a place for any particular person besides someone who likes anime

            >Girls who if wanted to meet a nice guy would also consider other places.
            Not necessarily, because "other places" could bring them in the company of guys they're even less interested in. For example, bars.

            >No it is not.
            It literally is

            >Also I dont read
            So don't comment on the bookstore suggestion lol

            >So you admit women dont go there to be approached and picked up.
            You don't find a good girl to be in a relationship with always at a place that's geared for finding a relationship. Huge rookie mistake. A good relationship is founded on an emotional connection anyway, not solely physical attraction.

            >Also I have NEVER seen anyone ever approach a woman in a book store.
            Smarter guys don't do it openly in public places like that

            >these places are not for meeting people
            See my comment above

            >If they were interested
            They are interested

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >To find someone appropriate for you, yes. It's the same with your career. Makes no sense to think otherwise
            Lol you are either delusional or trolling. Find a job in another place, move out, to go out like a creepy 30+ YO dude to anime conventions.
            Not to even be SURE I'll find someone there, but to MAYBE check your theory if it's true. Hahahahaha. Good one.

            >It's not a place for any particular person besides someone who likes anime
            So women, gays and fat smelly slobs.

            >For example, bars.
            Ok, how about parks, boulevards, cafes, town square/plaza... These places don't gather the same kind of men that bars do.

            >It literally is
            Which part of "Also I have NEVER seen anyone ever approach a woman in a book store." didnt you understand?

            >So don't comment on the bookstore suggestion lol
            I still go to bookstores sometimes to buy other stuff so yes, I can comment on those places.

            >You don't find a good girl to be in a relationship with always at a place that's geared for finding a relationship.
            I dont know what that would even be, but I already gave good examples above.

            >Smarter guys don't do it openly in public places like that
            So you admit your bookstor recommendation was shitty, got you!

            >They are interested
            No, they are not. They are interested in their own hobby. If they were interested in anything beyond that, they would show signs.

            I have proved to you time and time again how wrong you are. You simply can not admit to being wrong, like with that other anon who proved you wrong on using the word "womanizer".

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >date women who are done with good looking men and now want to settle down at 30

            See

            You're your own worst enemy

            You are not worth responding to further. You're a womanizer who refuses to grow up and do what it takes to be a decent human being and be deserving of a loving partner. I have no pity for you. You have only yourself to blame.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can't respond to my posts about places to meet women because you have no arguments.
            I'm not a womanizer because I don't have boxes that have to be checked in a woman.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I've responded and already dismantled your posts and entire position.

            >some of them have had bad past experiences and are now aware of which kinds of guys aren't appropriate for them
            ignoring the fact that your first statement is wrong; all girls sleep around solely because they can and it feels good, this is just straight up saying the let a run through woman settle for you

            >all girls sleep around
            Define "sleep around."

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Define "sleep around."
            having sex with sexually desirable strangers (or frickbuddies) whenever they feel the need
            which is the default modus operandi of women my age

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's something you need to understand about women's sexuality. It's not like a man's. They need to feel desired in order to be aroused, which means it's a lot harder for them to feel sexually satisfied jerking off alone in their rooms — impossible even. Some women can handle not having sex or feeling sexually satisfied for a long time, but they tend to be not as feminine. A sufficiently feminine woman will want to feel sexually desired by someone at least some days of every month when she ovulates, whether she's in a relationship or not, and porn can't help her with that. They'd sooner have sex with their dog, because at least an animal in heat desires them a little bit.

            However, this doesn't at all mean that the average woman WANTS to sleep around. On the contrary, the average woman would prefer to be in a relationship, having sex with a single man who she has an emotional connection with, who desires her and makes her feel desired regularly. This is the ideal that most women want and are searching for. They don't care about "notch counts" on average and other shit that juvenile men and women care about.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >but they tend to be not as feminine.
            Or they're preoccupied with raising kids. Just wanted to add that.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dog-pilled again...

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dog-pilled again...

            dogpill is true, i remember back in highschool i had a girl using me as an orbiter (before I found out about that sort of thing) after she said she didn't find me sexually attractive, and a short while after she friendzoned me, she started venting to me about how she was having intense sexual fantasies about fricking her dog
            and i was like 'damn, this girl really sees her fricking dog as more of a viable sexual partner than me'
            i dont think i ever recovered from that one

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >i dont think i ever recovered from that one
            Just know that you probably weren't expressing your desire for her frequently enough, or in a way that was convincing to her, or you just didn't experience a desire for her as intensely or as frequently as she wanted, while the dog apparently did.

            Women want men to transform into werewolves in the bedroom. She wants her man to become overwhelmed by his desire to frick her. This turns her on. Find a girl who you can tap into that with and you'll have found your wife.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            no, the problem was that i was ugly and unmasculine

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >and unmasculine
            But that's what I'm saying. The ugly part can't be fixed though, you just need to find a girl who doesn't consider you ugly.

            Cope. A sub-5 can desire Stacy as much as he wants, but she's never going to frick him.

            Simps are usually not full of werewolfish desire, but childish neediness, which is a huge turn off and not the same thing at all.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            dont be an idiot
            an unmasculine man expressing sexual desire doesn't make him masculine, it makes him creepy

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sexual desire for a woman is masculine, so yes, expressing it does make him more masculine. If you paid attention to my post here

            There's something you need to understand about women's sexuality. It's not like a man's. They need to feel desired in order to be aroused, which means it's a lot harder for them to feel sexually satisfied jerking off alone in their rooms — impossible even. Some women can handle not having sex or feeling sexually satisfied for a long time, but they tend to be not as feminine. A sufficiently feminine woman will want to feel sexually desired by someone at least some days of every month when she ovulates, whether she's in a relationship or not, and porn can't help her with that. They'd sooner have sex with their dog, because at least an animal in heat desires them a little bit.

            However, this doesn't at all mean that the average woman WANTS to sleep around. On the contrary, the average woman would prefer to be in a relationship, having sex with a single man who she has an emotional connection with, who desires her and makes her feel desired regularly. This is the ideal that most women want and are searching for. They don't care about "notch counts" on average and other shit that juvenile men and women care about.

            I said

            >a single man who she has an emotional connection with
            Don't ignore that part, it's vital. Ignoring this is what makes you look creepy.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            sexual desire for a woman is only seen as masculine if she's already attracted to you
            women won't form emotional connections with ugly men

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sexual desire for a woman is inherently masculine. It's not a matter of how it's seen.

            >women won't form emotional connections with ugly men
            Incorrect.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            not masculine in any way that matters to the woman if she's not attracted to you
            >sartre
            ok, I'll just become an extremely influential author then ????

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >not masculine in any way that matters to the woman if she's not attracted to you
            You mean not emotionally connected to you.

            >ok, I'll just become an extremely influential author then ????
            That's not why he and Simone bonded, and they still bonded despite him looking like a toad.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            again, women don't connect with ugly and unmasculine people
            doesn't mean they can't pretend if the person is really wealthy and influential
            women are also aroused by evilness, which sartre had in spades, fricking vile piece of shit pedophile

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >women don't connect with ugly people
            Refuted by Jean-Paul and Simone.

            >and unmasculine people
            True, since an effeminate man is one who doesn't really sexually desire women, and that's a turn off for them. Sexual desire for women goes up as masculinity goes up. If your definition of an effeminate male is different, even if it's common, it's ontologically wrong.

            >women are also aroused by evilness, which sartre had in spades
            "Evilness"?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            sartre fricked little boys

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            1) Proof?
            2) How is this relevant?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petitions_against_age_of_consent_laws
            2) women can overlook a man being ugly if he's evil enough, as evil is inherently arousing to women because it is selfish and outwardly destructive

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petitions_against_age_of_consent_laws
            Where is the proof that he was fricking prepubescent boys?

            >women can overlook a man being ugly if he's evil enough
            For sexual stimulation, sure. Simone and Jean-Paul shared a lifelong bond together. This wasn't merely sexual, this was an emotional connection.

            sartre had de beauvoir grooming young girls for him. there's a funny anecdote of him trying to seduce a young girl for months and then when he's finally on top of her she freaks out because he's that repulsive looking and can never be in any way attracted to him, despite his literary fame

            the break between camus and sartre was not only philosophical and political in nature btw, there was conflict over a woman as well

            None of this is relevant, assuming it's all true.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            are you serious??
            you've read sartre and really had no idea he and de beauvoir were pedophile groomers?
            lol, enjoy the historical rabbit hole you're about to go down

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I read one book of his years ago. I don't care about them besides that their relationship proves women can bond with ugly men.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            it is true. I'm French, the infatuation of french artists and intelligentsia with pedophila is well-known. sartre, matzneff, foucault, even going back as far as andre gide and flaubert

            the couple you hold up as a symbol of pure love were truly horrible people

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They're not a "symbol of pure love," just an example of how women can bond with ugly men. Unbelievable how you morons lose the thread so damn easily.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            the point is that your example of how women can bond with ugly men is completely idotic, you fricking dunce
            it's one single anecdote from almost 100 years ago, before any girl could summon an on demand army of chads to frick her with a button press

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            How is it idiotic when Sartre was an ugly bastard? If Simone could bond with that, then the remark "women can't connect with ugly men" is literally fricking WRONG.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            because they didn't bond over each other, they bonded of their shared love of fricking children

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            and, of course, that we don't live in the same world as 20th century france
            we live in a world where the average womens' sexual value greatly outvalues mens'

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            let's see. 1) sartre was a literary superstar in a world where writers still had extreme status. there is no modern equivalent. take houellebecq x100
            2) de beauvoir was, despite being a talented women, an extremely deviant person. not only morally, but using her as a benchmark for the average woman in the first half of the 20th century is not smart, using her as an example in 2024 is...
            3) they had an open marriage. she tried to hook up with camus but he rejected her ( based camus). despite bonding cerebrally and artistically with him, there is no evidence of any sexual/physical attraction, of love in any sensual sense

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're looking at all these trivial details without understanding the underlying process that formed their bond: Simone felt SAFE and HEARD with Sartre. That's what an emotional connection IS. If it takes a deviant woman to love an ugly man, so what? It makes no difference here.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It does make a difference because I'm not arguing agains the possibility of it happening but against the probability. The chance is so infitesmal that in 2024 it could just as well, approximation, not exist. You having to use such an outlier example proves that

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No one said it was easy or common. You have to be lovable if you want to be loved. If you're ugly, you have to work on other aspects of yourself. That's just how it works. The point is, it can be done. What matters is the emotional connection. Attractive women will often dump attractive men until they find a man who they can connect with. Stop focusing on the ones who are genuine bawds who don't care about this because they don't matter to you.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            bro it's so rare as to be non-existent. it's asymptotic to zero. women can tolerate ugly men, enter relationships of convenience with them, but that physical spark won't be there. that's how it is. real genuine romantic attraction presupposes physical attraction. what you're talking about is friendship dressed up as love. a passionless relation

          • 2 months ago
            Seanonymous

            it's true we are animals but people get weird fetishes

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >real genuine romantic attraction presupposes physical attraction
            If you're ugly, then there's absolutely no point in believing this, unless you enjoy feeling miserable. But if you're ugly, then you probably do, so carry on if so.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            it's not a matter of believe, it's a matter of reality. I'm not ugly but you're a peddler of delusions and that's sadistic

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What you call reality is merely subject bias. What is common is not what is objective.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            from a positivist standpoint it isn't. but placing your hope on the most unlikely case of serendipity is not something that should be encouraged. hope only prolongs suffering

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Hope is for morons. Take action and alleviate yourself of shitty beliefs.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You have to be lovable if you want to be loved. If you're ugly, you have to work on other aspects of yourself. That's just how it works
            Like the pedo Sartre? Yeah, he just showered and learned to respect women. No dark-triad-maxxing at all.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            He dressed better than you, wrote books and plays, maintained a public image, and participated in political activism. And what are you doing?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            no one is refuting that ugly couples don't exist bro. but using sartre and de beauvoir as an example when they're obviously extreme outliers is odd to say the least. it's better to say that women can't physically/sexually bond with ugly men

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >but using sartre and de beauvoir as an example when they're obviously extreme outliers is odd to say the least
            No more odd than saying "women can't emotionally connect with ugly men." This is a gross generalization that indicates a lack of an understanding of what "emotional connection" even means.

            >it's better to say that women can't physically/sexually bond with ugly men
            This isn't correct either. Rather, women (and men) are far less likely to emotionally connect with someone who is ugly, because ugly people (man or woman) tend to have ugly personalities, too.

            Women want to feel desired by someone, and they want to feel emotionally connected with that person. Of course they will prefer the company of physically attractive men; men also prefer the company of physically attractive women. However, physical attraction doesn't necessarily lead to an emotional connection.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            sartre had de beauvoir grooming young girls for him. there's a funny anecdote of him trying to seduce a young girl for months and then when he's finally on top of her she freaks out because he's that repulsive looking and can never be in any way attracted to him, despite his literary fame

            the break between camus and sartre was not only philosophical and political in nature btw, there was conflict over a woman as well

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sartre was a fricking cuckold you moron.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They were in an open relationship and both had other lovers.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Cope. A sub-5 can desire Stacy as much as he wants, but she's never going to frick him.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I've responded and already dismantled your posts and entire position.
            Imagine having to tell yourself these lies to sleep well at night.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It's time to change yourself, anon. Know that there are many depressed girls out there too. They're depressed because guys like you (and formerly me) are opting to stay at home, watching porn / anime and playing video games all day, adopting the ideology of hateful womanizers and racists who are terminally online and contributing to the downfall of society, instead of trying to be a decent person who brightens up the lives of those around you, participating in and building up a community, learning and using your skills to make other people happy, and fighting for the world you really believe in, which is a kinder, more romantic sort of earth. Girls want guys like you to pull yourself together. They're waiting for your love so they can trust theirs won't go to waste.
      Peak cope. If you're not Chad women would rather you be out of sight and out of mind.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hi, womanizer

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          not him but after seeing my sister do this to a couple good men just because they're NOT that fricking good looking (they were decent/average) and choosing literal morons that SHE knows that they will leave her with a baby just because they look good really really makes me doubt. the modern women feel like they're entitled. keep in mind my sister looks like shit

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Your sister's not all women

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            His sister is 80% of all modern western woman.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ignore them and focus on the other 20% + all the non-western women who aren't like that.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >non-western women
            I'm told by woman that these woman only would love me for a greencard, is this woman being liars to protect their power? I've heavily considered going to another country to maybe find a lover, but put it off because even my own female family members told me going to another country to date a woman she will never "truly love" me.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, as much i want to believe you, my empirical experience tells me otherwise. my mother wasnt a women like that, and still my sister came out like she is now.
            but i guess its just because im a ultra sperg, anyways i hope do you actually find love anon.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Meds. I'm a non-Chad who knows his place.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Another demoralization attempt from a hateful womanizer

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What do you think "womanizer" means?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It means someone who objectifies and mistreats women

            Anon, as much i want to believe you, my empirical experience tells me otherwise. my mother wasnt a women like that, and still my sister came out like she is now.
            but i guess its just because im a ultra sperg, anyways i hope do you actually find love anon.

            See

            Ignore them and focus on the other 20% + all the non-western women who aren't like that.

            I did find love, that's why I'm moraleposting

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It means someone who objectifies and mistreats women
            No, not really.
            >a man who often has temporary sexual relationships with women or tries to get women to have sex with him
            Is how English speakers understand it. A bizarre thing to call a non-Chad who couldn't possible get temporary sexual relationships with any woman.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >No, not really
            Yes really, and that's what you are.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            are you perhaps an ultra autistic men that doesn't know anything out of science, akward as frick, never had any interaction with women, actually afraid of women that doesn't know how to talk to them, tsundere (for a lack of a better work) self sabotaging and procastaning frick? (the looks and washing habits are implicit)

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm pretty autistic and awkward, and for me it's philosophy instead of science, but I worked on myself, forced myself to interact, and overcame my fears. It's worth it, and my girlfriend tells me every day that she's glad I did and that there are a lot of girls out there looking for guys like us, we just need to step up.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >there are a lot of girls out there looking for guys like us, we just need to step up.
            Unironically lol'd, this is prime bait.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            i do really really really actually hope that you did anon. forgive me for not being able to believe you

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >men need to change but women don't
            men live in a cursed reality

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      awful bait
      just terrible

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sad that you think that's bait, anon.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          women who are similar to me have no issues getting partners and are getting run through as we speak

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >have no issues getting partners
            Not true, but you also should not be too similar to women, it helps them but not you

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Not true
            fat woman go on dating app, 5 billion matches

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Stop focusing on problems that aren't yours, all you need to be concerned with is

            It's time to change yourself, anon. Know that there are many depressed girls out there too. They're depressed because guys like you (and formerly me) are opting to stay at home, watching porn / anime and playing video games all day, adopting the ideology of hateful womanizers and racists who are terminally online and contributing to the downfall of society, instead of trying to be a decent person who brightens up the lives of those around you, participating in and building up a community, learning and using your skills to make other people happy, and fighting for the world you really believe in, which is a kinder, more romantic sort of earth. Girls want guys like you to pull yourself together. They're waiting for your love so they can trust theirs won't go to waste.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            but what you posted isn't true: the 'many depressed girls out there' aren't lonely
            with a push of a button, they can summon an army of men better than me

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They are lonely. The billion bots and dregs in their inbox makes them lonelier, in fact

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The billion bots and dregs in their inbox makes them lonelier, in fact
            ok so you're just baiting, then

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Your idea of loneliness is toxic and stupid

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            my idea of loneliness is toxic and stupid???
            my idea of loneliness is having nobody
            your idea of loneliness is having throngs of people begging for your attention
            nice reddit filename btw

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Your idea of loneliness is thinking legions of superficial men who just want to jerk off with your body somehow alleviates it when it doesn't, it's a toxic and idiotic view of social connection

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            you can't possibly be fricking serious

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            robin williams was an evil pedo and got what he deserved

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >date women who are done with good looking men and now want to settle down at 30

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't you hear? All you have to do is step the FRICK up!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't you hear? All you have to do is step the FRICK up!

        bro just change your entire persona

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >have shitty habits like watching porn / anime all day, playing video games all day, never leaving the house, adopting the values of the internet hate machine, objectifying women, etc.
          >thinks he should be perfectly lovable this way
          The arrogance is astounding.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you see, you can't like what you like anymore because women demand it
            i agree that being a porn addict is bad (like any addiction) and ofc you need to leave your house.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There isn’t a single thing wrong with being a racist in the modern meme sense. Rabidly hating individuals for no reason but their race is moronic, but it almost never happens. It’s just that everything remotely related to caring about race (but only for Europeans who aren’t self-hating) gets lumped in under the same label and connotation.

      And the same atomizing ideology that declared any sort of in-group preference evil incarnate is also responsible for breaking down societies at every level of organization. To pretend that people who value things beyond themselves are the real problem with society is bizarre.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Take the black pill (metaphorically)

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    tfw 31 and have a woman very much in love with me but I kinda pity her

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't lead her on?

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Watch Vtubers

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't worry anon, it's just nature's way of filtering out the unfit. You are unfit thus you cannot attract a female of your species and therefore will not breed. A genetic dead-end. Happens all the time.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Angry womanizers perpetuating schoolboy mentality into late adulthood, and they wonder why they're alone

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based ESL.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hi, womanizer

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You just mean misogynist wherever you've said womanizer in this thread. It's like calling a misandrist a bawd, you're simply using the wrong word.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            A womanizer IS a misogynist. Don Juan is a misogynist who is incapable of maintaining a real relationship with a woman. I'm not using the word incorrectly at all.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You could choose to view womanizing as a specific kind of misogyny if you insisted, but you're calling generic misogyny that is clearly not womanizing as womanizing.
            Actually take a second to read your own screenshot, how does
            >A womanizer is a man who always seems to have a new girlfriend, and who has no hesitation about starting up a new relationship before he's ended the last one
            possibly apply to the incels you're calling womanizers ITT?

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Move to a bigger place and get a social life. Find groups, hobbies something like that.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    date an 18-20 year old

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    To be honest, women aren't capable of romantic love. So, even all those guys whom you think are loved by women, are living a lie. Women can certainly show a degree of fondness but they're evolutionarily hardwired not to love men.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      proof?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just basic anthropology. Women always had to be prepared to swap dicks if their mate got killed or they were captured by an invading force. It was their only means of survival. Add male expandability into the mix and there you go.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's not true. I've seen women pine and almost kill themselves over men. it's just that women are more superifical. their love is only reserved for remarkable men. a man, in his heart, can see an uremarkable women as the light of his life

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The funny is when women meet a guy who's a notorious womanizer, then sleep with him anyway, then get upset when they're just another notch on the bedpost. It's kind of a self-fulflling prophecy, they sleep with the guy because other women have slept with him, and that validates her decision, plus he's going to have attractive qualities in the first place, but it's still dumb.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's not funny or dumb, they know what they're getting into
      the experience of being disposable is a major part of the appeal

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the experience of being disposable is a major part of the appeal
        Explain.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          not much to it, you said it yourself even
          it's all about social validation, having slept with so many women
          >man has many options
          >man must be doing something right
          >must secure genes

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, I've seen women get so hung up on men who have pumped and dumped them. This is why I don't bother with trying to find a gf. Women don't want someone to respect them, love them, or any of that crap. They'd rather just get used and obsess over that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      These are either immature women or women who have been divorced / cheated on in the past and no longer interested in finding a long term mate. The former are attracted to these men because these men do everything they can to be attractive, including (and primarily) using deceit and manipulation.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >including (and primarily) using deceit and manipulation.
        what do we do fellow virgin womanizers, are we meant to "step up" to be attractive or use the successful strategy of deceit?!

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You're meant to not idolize someone like Don Juan because he never experiences true love, being the emotionally stunted man-child that he is.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Don Juan
            Literally who?
            But I am very keen to hear who I should idolize as a man, from a woman who hates men.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Literally who?
            A classic literary character.

            >But I am very keen to hear who I should idolize as a man
            Why do you need to idolize anyone?

            >from a woman who hates men.
            I am a man who loves women.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I am a man who loves women.
            This is the only time on NSFFW I don't believe someone saying they're a man lmao

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why, because I don't perpetuate the values of womanizers like a weak-minded coward?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >A classic literary character.
            Yikes, it is not a good look to use stale colonizer media while claiming to denounce toxic masculinity... Do better sweetie.

  14. 2 months ago
    Seanonymous

    stop caring. enjoy your life. look at all the misery around you. if you can enjoy your life daily and they're not then they're just moronic

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is why you go out there and ask out as many women as possible. Date multiple women at the same time

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Given you posted an ugly asian I can see why. Women are repulsed by riceburners

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Since you've failed to find a girlfriend at 31, your options are
    >Stay single forever
    >Become a passport bro

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lol you’re a gross pedo who will have to move to asia. The women there will take balding beta leftovers nobody else wanted

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Find a woman who loves you. It may take some time, but you can do it. That's the simple answer though.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Just become rich bro. It may take some time, but you can do it. That's the simple answer though.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Especially true for money.
        If you don't try, you won't achieve, so you at least have to get out there and talk to women.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Find a woman who loves you
          >get out there and talk to women

          >Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps bro
          >Shake the manager firmly by the hand

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's not easy, but you CAN do it. Don't make excuses for yourself. If a woman is that important for you, then go get it. Same with a home or money or whatever it is.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The truth for you OP, and for many people in this thread, is that you'll probably never get it. If you haven't been able to get a single girlfriend, much less a single date, that means there's probably something very wrong with you. Don't let the improovers brainwash you into thinking that there's guaranteed hope, it's statistically possible but extremely improbable at this point. If you decide that you truly want a girlfriend, you need to determine what you're willing to do to get one. You should probably have a job, some hobbies, your own place, car, etc. Independence essentially. After that, you can start dating, but don't be too excited, at this stage women are looking to settle down and marry, so you aren't going to get "fun" dates but instead it's going to be more like an interview.

    If you do all of this, and still get one, it's better to accept your place in life instead of beating a dead horse. Make your life as comfortable as possible. Don't engage in drugs or negative copes, maybe start writing books or learn painting. You can do whatever you want, as long as you have something to strive for. If one day, you decide it's not worth it, you can always anhero.

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