If you're an older kissless virgin at 25+ years old or older who never had a girlfriend, have you given up on getting a gf?

If you're an older kissless virgin at 25+ years old or older who never had a girlfriend, have you given up on getting a gf?
>tfw 28 khhv and rejected after asking her out

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't say I've totally given up, but I have no real hope of it anymore. I don't want a normie GF though, I'd want someone who's in a similar situation to my own. The problem is they have no interest in someone like me usually.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think I have a sliver of hope, but it's dwindling very quickly. It all depends if I change soon.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    given up probably the wrong term. I prefer not actively pursuing.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    33.
    I need to build myself up more. My lack of confidence has always held me back. I've probably been closer than I realised multiple times over the years but I've never had the strength to make that final push.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      naw. there isn't that much to it. saying you have been close to getting a gf is life saying you got close to wearing pants, either you put them on or you didn't.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You got a point. I'm likely just too slow and laid back and mildly mentally ill to keep up with this world.
        Not so mentally ill to be entirely dysfunctional, but enough that I'm plagued daily with self-doubt and being repulsed with myself despite praise from others around me.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i never cared in the first place. in hindsight there's been signs of women being interested but i give so little of a frick

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    giving up no shifting my priorities as I get older yes. being a virgin doesn't stop the world from demanding you pay your bills or be homeless.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    lol god will tell me i'll never have sex and i'll instantly start crying. it makes sense that he tells me this thousands of times per day, considering the effect hearing it has on me. and, if i dont cry hard enough when he says it, he will just say it again, except this time it will also include a picture being sent to my mind which invokes a feeling of sexual FOMO. they're really easy pictures, just a picture of somebody sitting next to you is all it really takes. its just really funny is all i guess is what i'm saying.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can't give up if you never even tried. No but honestly, I gave up very earlier in life that I wouldn't even know what to do with a woman if for some strange reason one would come on to me.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is no choice, we just dont know it yet.
    33 khv.

    >13 to 18
    >want to frick/kiss girls
    >don't know anything, play games on my own in my room and just fantasise
    >19 to 25
    >surely one of these days it's gonna happen, everyone else have it have happened to them>I will just wait for community college, for university (dropped out), for the next community college again
    >it will happen naturally surely
    >25 to 30
    >okay I've had no clue how people let alone how women work my entire life
    >I've missed so many signals, I can see that now being forced to work with people and having my first job that my social skills have been non existant
    >no matter my chances I would have never taken them as a younger man, I had no choice because I knew nothing, I started life with negative emotional and social intelligence, I can see that now
    >let's do some serious masking now and be very conscious of what others think of me
    >maybe someone tangential to my work will give me signs like those 16 year old girls did in highschool that I missed
    >30 to 33+
    >there is no free will
    >I can try to change and change for as bit but it will fail, I will go back to my room exhausted and less clear on what normal humans go through each time I try
    >when I thought "no one understands me in this world" as a teenager I wasn't wrong
    >I just never knew how little everything actually mattered, I could have just kept going as I did when I was 12 for all these years and I would still ended up here the same anyway
    >time spent overthinking and reflecting was for nothing, I can't do this anyway

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think the worst part is some people can just close it all off and be content but some people can't.
      I still thirst. So much. Despite everything I still have that nagging little fools hope. I get so tired some days. Tired of living this life of internal turmoil and external bleakness.
      I often wish I could just lie down and stop being alive because I dont know how I can handle this for the other half of my life.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe you should've tried putting any effort into it before you turned 30
      I'm a diagnosed autist and stayed home playing games until I was 21. After COVID I actually went out and forced myself to socialise, try new things and get to know people face to face.
      Of course I was socially moronic but I found people I liked and social stuff got easier with time.
      I'm 23, soon 24 now and have gotten a gf. Would not have happened if I stayed home playing more games, rarely interacting with anyone

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        why do you morons always assume that if you are khhv you must be locked in your basement 24/7? Like I had a job, college, went out whenever I could and still ended up khhv at 28, Just going out being social won't magically make someone attracted to you. Life is not netflix movie. dysu

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          dude, he's just trying to make himself feel better about his image. when you're here long enough you kind of learn that's the game with these insults here.i can't remeber what shoujo i read, but it had a line in it that forever stuck with me. "the quickest way to make yourslef feel big is to make others feel small". i've taken that to heart and now see it constantly for what it is. i try not to take shit like this personally, anon. if they want to delude themselves into thinking that they hurt you, so be it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I know but these kind of 'positive life fuel' responses make me even more depressed.
            >I was totally ugly shut in autist who got a gf by stopping video games and going outside.

            Like if all you had to do to get a gf was going outside, if it was that easy, you weren't unnatractive in the first place.

            I already did what most anons here clasify as 'trying' and still nothing. That leads me to two possible conclusions;
            a) I'm much more ugly then guys here (who are already ugly on average)
            or
            b)I'm much more moronic then most guys here

            tbh I'm not sure which of the two is more depressing. I think I'm gonna kms.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's not just going outside. You need to actively try to meet and make relationships with women. Get a fricking dating app. If you have to wonder if you're ugly - then you're not frickin ugly. Maybe bad hygiene idk.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Get a fricking dating ap
            you really think i didn't try that? Got like one match in 6 months which ghosted me

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because either you're disfigured/super ugly or you are socially moronic if you can't get a girlfriend. Or you're not even trying, waiting for the perfect one to approach you instead. Also read the post I replied to, he complained about staying home playing games most his life so that he got set back in his social experience

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Because either you're disfigured/super ugly or you are socially moronic if you can't get a girlfriend.
            idk maybe both then
            >Or you're not even trying, waiting for the perfect one to approach you instead
            I never understood this 'try' argument. What does that even mean? The times I tried to approach women in bars or social events they were visibly uninterested and mostly in their friend group.

            Also, whenever I ask my friends who are in LTRs or have had multiple gfs they always said they didn't actively try to get a gf. They didn't woke up one day and said ok I'm now trying to get a gf. They lived their life and a girl found them attractive/hot and they got together pretty easy.
            Should i wrote on my forehead that I'm looking for a gf?

            I tried all the usual advice but it just doesn't work for some reason,

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            you'll always be blamed for it anon, don't stress. what you described as your friends experience is the same as my group. they're physically attractive guys and girls would either approach them or send very obvious signals. the odd time this didn't happen that would just dm some girl though social media and get her.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    kind of, i mean, i don't expect it to happen
    there's a tiny little bit of hope buried deep in my heart still, i guess
    but my expectations are zero, and i've made my peace with it
    there are other cool things in life i can do, like making friends, working with what i enjoy, watching good shows, taking care of mom and grandma, playing good games, etc.
    maybe later on i'll be that cool uncle to my friends' kids if i end up with more friends later on, i think that'd be nice too

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a 34 year old virgin and never had a gf. I haven't given up but I realize that my prospects are very bleak.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I gave up at 14 even before getting started. Never even tried asking a girl out or talking to a girl 1:1. I have too many issues, that make me incompatible with human relationships. I'm 25 now.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      self fulfilling prophecy anon. you can never succeed if you never try, and therefore you didn't try so you could confirm your own preconceived expectations. many such cases!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I tested the grounds beforehand. I asked every woman I knew about my physical appearance and I was called extremely ugly by all of them, including my own mother. I knew right there and then that my it was over before it started. Just saved myself a lot of trouble.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >including my own mother
          This is more to do than your mom being a selfish b***h that didn't raised you right than you actually being ugly. You probably grew up around her and she, being the c**t she is, made you feel down at every opportunity she had, which is probably the reason you have no self steem in the first place. You don't need to believe me, just reflect on your interactions with her with this in mind from now on.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >you can never succeed if you never try

        tell that to foids

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      hoh boy do i feel this. I convince myself I don't care about it but deep down I know that's cope.

      self fulfilling prophecy anon. you can never succeed if you never try, and therefore you didn't try so you could confirm your own preconceived expectations. many such cases!

      >you can never succeed if you never try
      ok anon
      how do i try then
      what do i do and say

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not kissless or a virgin, but I know I'm never doing either again. I'm almost 30 and I haven't even kissed a girl in like ten years.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    no i feel like i'm just getting started

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    past 25 the prospect of getting a gf loses most of its magic.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Such as what exactly? What do you mean magic?

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I managed to get a gf at 31 and lose my virginity. So I say keep trying

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    35yo here. I haven't given up but it feels pointless. The only woman who talks to me is 19.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    29 KHV. I realize I don't want a commited, serious relationship. I want a cutesy teenage fling to experience what I missed out on in my youth. Since this is physically impossible there is no sense for me to date as women can't offer me anything and I can't offer women anything.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why is this impossible? Just find yourself a repressed girl in her early 20s who's finishing/just finished education and is about to be released from her parents' grip. I had that teenage love experience at 26.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    26 and yeah.. I have given up

    But I've been blackpilled since about 14 so I've had awhile to come to terms with it. I'm a Zenpilled monkmaxxed enlightenedcel

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    33kv here. Nigh impossible to get a life partner where debauchery is the norm. Years of constant rejection and lack of self-affirmation from my family & friends only reinforced my position in the dating market. Shit's fricked.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    25 year old virgin but just went on my very first date like 2 weeks after my birthday.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty much. If I'm still one at the end of my PhD in Hong Kong, when I'll be 30, I think it's okay to throw in the towel.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    trying to come to terms with becoming a wizard while im 19. nofap helps or maybe my sex drive just lowered. thankfully it will get easier when i am older and then maybe i will enjoy my wizard powers.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    nah it's over
    who wants to be with a 30 year old virgin? it's weird.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I knew when I stopped and thought about it on high school graduation. I got "stood up" on prom but knew it wouldn't come to fruition from the get-go. I was always the butt-end of a joke with girls and their games. Other people made a small drama out of it upon hearing it. I didn't care.
    There was one point where I did crush on someone somewhat, not even in my teens, but I basically got immediately shit on. Like I was with everything else. Just the same old generic "loser" and "homosexual" shit-talk that never had anything to take from it or improve on.
    By the time graduation came around I realized that I didn't have any emotion pulling me toward other people. Most of my agony was shame from being unable to play the game, like my family kept pressuring me to do. Then I sat down in my room for a while, after being alone for a while, and realized I finally had peace of mind. No pressure, no shitty kids to deal with, no shame, no goals. Probably the most free I'd ever felt. Getting out of public education was the biggest boon toward personal growth I'd ever experienced.
    I'd managed to dismantle the stigma on being alone after working on it for a few years, my memory is fuzzy, so I think I managed to dismantle it proper around 21, 22 years old or so. When my family gave up pressuring me to socialize (another large contributor to the shame being perpetuated off and on) I finally started to get the ball rolling.
    I'm 31 now and feel nothing. I think love is probably one of the biggest lies told by mankind, one required to perpetuate the species and one that slows personal growth by constantly making people look to others to "complete" them somehow. By the time a person is truly mentally ready for having a relationship and family, it would just be an excess. I am my own confidant, so there is nothing being romantically tied to someone could offer. It's an alien emotion to me. I barely registered valentine's day's existence, but I did get called in for extra hours.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    34 in april, bit hard to give up when you never even really tried, social anxiety and poor self image got in my way along with an overly critical helicopter parent who is no longer with us, i worry if i try it will just ignite a whole bunch of negative self image issues, either that or it will all work out and life will drastically improve, i'm not as optimistic for my future anymore

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah im putting all my stocks in on AI gfs. Talk to chatbots these days now.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    27, downloaded dating apps in december 2023. Gradually lost my khhv status within 2 months. I lowkey look like the guy in your photo, just 1 score uglier and with a worse hairline.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I got 2 likes (not matches, likes) in 2 weeks back in 2020.
      I obviously didn't know how and what photos as a man you are ""supposed"" to use ans my phone is an older phone with a bad camera.
      Here is the sample of my pictures and I cur some of the second picture out to not include my sister here.
      Also a picture of me currently.
      I stopped using tinder after 2 weeks when all I got was 2 likes. One from a bot and one from a troony.
      I researched how thr algorithm worked after that and also what kind of pictures you have to take if you looks are below the 9/10.
      I would argue that even if you are a 9/10 facially you can't take the kind of photos I did even or get anything from them.
      Women swipe on pictures that make a man look extroverted, being out and about in a normal and natural social setting, showing off goods, etc. While also, of course, displaying good genes.

      I'm 6'1 btw.
      33 khv now.
      This was my earlier post here:

      There is no choice, we just dont know it yet.
      33 khv.

      >13 to 18
      >want to frick/kiss girls
      >don't know anything, play games on my own in my room and just fantasise
      >19 to 25
      >surely one of these days it's gonna happen, everyone else have it have happened to them>I will just wait for community college, for university (dropped out), for the next community college again
      >it will happen naturally surely
      >25 to 30
      >okay I've had no clue how people let alone how women work my entire life
      >I've missed so many signals, I can see that now being forced to work with people and having my first job that my social skills have been non existant
      >no matter my chances I would have never taken them as a younger man, I had no choice because I knew nothing, I started life with negative emotional and social intelligence, I can see that now
      >let's do some serious masking now and be very conscious of what others think of me
      >maybe someone tangential to my work will give me signs like those 16 year old girls did in highschool that I missed
      >30 to 33+
      >there is no free will
      >I can try to change and change for as bit but it will fail, I will go back to my room exhausted and less clear on what normal humans go through each time I try
      >when I thought "no one understands me in this world" as a teenager I wasn't wrong
      >I just never knew how little everything actually mattered, I could have just kept going as I did when I was 12 for all these years and I would still ended up here the same anyway
      >time spent overthinking and reflecting was for nothing, I can't do this anyway

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        For me, my quantity and quality of matches improved A LOT after using the "right" photos.

        But after 2 months still got 0 dates, I found that talking and getting dates is even worse then getting matches.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Hey im the guy you replied to
          Yeah I can imagine even using the "right" photos then if you actually arent a normie inside of your mind then whats the point?
          It really is up to emotional and social intelligence at the end of the day.
          Biggest determinant factor even over the internet.
          In person only height can be a deal breaker for women that goes before social and emotional intelligence.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        damn you look like you get pussy

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anon I think the problem here is you're fricking moronic. If I were a woman and I had to interact with you I'd shoot myself. Wtf are those pics, get a haircut and have someone (who isn't you) take some pics

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >34 khhv
    >never tried approaching a girl, only hinted to girls I liked
    >never tried online dating or anything
    >kept hoping for things to happen by chance in everyday life - through school or work
    >never happened
    >no girl ever considered me for a relationship once in my life
    >women at my work talk about how they can't find a "good" man with me within earshot while never having even considered me - even if I get along with them amicably
    >simultaneously, they tend to treat online dating like a buffet, dating tons of men and seemingly rejecting them after 1-2 weeks
    >got fit, got a good job, am financially stable, finishing grad degree while working
    >lost all friends due to isolating out of a sense of shame as I watched everyone else I know seemingly get married and have kids
    >can't relate to them any longer - feel ashamed of my life
    >even if other aspects of my life are in decent shape now, the lack of any relationship erodes the foundation - makes me feel like I am inadequate or fundamentally flawed in some regard
    >get harassed at any wedding I go to now as I never have a date
    >people don't believe me if I explain my situation (if asked) as I am decently attractive
    >they criticize me as if it were my fault for not playing the numbers game despite relationships being a two way street based on mutual attraction between 2 parties
    >end up avoiding any social functions as a defense mechanism now
    >little to no self confidence as I view the lack of relationship experience at my age as an indication that something is fundamentally wrong with me that is irreconcilable
    >try to assuage such negative self-talk as negative self-bias but cannot do so when no woman has approached me either
    >simply save money for a future I don't care to see.
    >plan to give all my money to nieces and nephews, don't expect to live long either by suicide or early heart attack

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. It hurts me to say but my own inaction and things beyond control rendered me like this. After a certain age, you stop having existential dread over it which is dumb to begin with.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Given up. I never dated until 23 because I have a millimeter Peter. Bout the size of pic related when soft, maybe smaller.

    Got fit and read a ton of cope reddit/self help forums stuff, then made a tinder and went on a date. It was going amazing, back to my place. As we get to the door and I fumbled for my keys, she started feeling around for my junior jester. Then 10 minutes later:

    >"omg anon my friend got in a wreck!! I need to go give her a ride. I'm so sorry, let's hang out next weekend. I'll call you"

    She did not call me. In hindsight I should have kissed her while I had the chance.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm 33 khv. I was hoping that it would happen naturally. It's not happening, is it? At this point I only interact with my coworkers. So I have given up.

    I really really don't wanna use dating apps.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i turn 30 on the 7th and im still a virgin. i gave up a long long time ago. i havent tried since like age 21. i was actually ok with it but now that 30 is happening im suffering from a bit of buyer's remorse although i still have no intention of pursuing women

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    32 and I've not given up completely I'm just a fat frick who needs to lose weight. My big problem is soda addiction

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >having hopes of ever having a FRIEND let alone a gf
    normalgays

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was just a few months away from hitting 25 before I met my GF on Tinder. I just want to say that Tinder can be "gamed", and if you really focus on raising your chances, hitting the jackpot becomes more realistic.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So how do you game it? what's your strategy? I'm so scared of dating apps.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Common sense stuff like learning when women actually use the app in your area. Usually Tinder has "High Activity" alerts or you'll notice you start seeing more likes on a certain day at a certain time, eg Saturday after 7pm.

        Other things like understanding Chess ELO and that all matchmaking services from Videogames to Dating use a modified version of ELO. Practically, this means stop swiping Right as each failed match is a hit on your Dating ELO score. The more you swipe Left, the better the Leftovers and the less Bots Left.

        Every time you open the app for the first time each day, you'll notice that the top 10 or so girls might get repeatedly shown to you once or twice. If you got a like, it's probably from one of these girls, and the system wants you to match without making it obvious.

        Then of course, figuring out how to make yourself look good and how to take good pictures of yourself. And a bunch of other little optimizations that I probably can't remember from a couple years ago. All in all, this stuff might not save an autistic dude, but it could help, and it might be what a failed normie needs.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks. The ELO stuff was interesting. I will keept that in mind if I ever work up the courage to try.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The last one is the most useful. Make yourself look good.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, you're conflating usefulness with ease. Being good looking or faking it makes things easier, but if it was so easy to be good looking, or to fake it, then men wouldn't have so much trouble dating. Besides from personal experience, doesn't matter what you're doing, if no women are using the app at that time of day might as well just twiddle your thumbs.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, pretty much. Im at that point where I wouldnt care about others and say that Im a 31 year old khv straight to their face.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    26 kv.
    I wouldn't say I've given up, but I just don't have the same drive I had when I was 20-21 when I wanted a relationship. I haven't tried "going outside" (hobbies, making new friends, clubs, putting myself out there, etc.) I have this idea that since a couple of girls did like me in the past (I fricked it up, that's another story), I could probably get a partner later on (such a cope, I know). Dating apps sort of work as I do get matches but I end up thinking, "Do I want to change my life? Am I ready for something like this if it works out? Maybe she will just ghost or something? Maybe this is just a distraction and waste of time." and deleting the app. Maybe I'm still not mature enough for a relationship or ready. I'll see where I am in the next few years and focus on work.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So you wanted a relationship at 20-21 but you didn't use dating apps or "go outside"? What's the point of wanting a relationship then

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My issue is I don't want a normal gf. I want a bpd egirl gf legitimately

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Then you're a dumbass.

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nah I'm 29 virign, but I recognize my blessings and blame myself.

    I'm actually serious, but I'm not implying others should do what I do, some people actually never had a chance.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >27
    Mostly given up. I wouldn't even know what to do if I got in a relationship, the entire process is just beyond me. The gulf of experience between me and other people my age is very wide and makes me feel inadequate, but it only gets more pronounced the older I get. I'm getting close to the age where if you've never had a relationship people assume there's something wrong with you. Maybe they're right.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Like another anon said, I haven't given up, but I have little to no hope left. I'm 26 and I'm considering hiring a reputable escort.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mean I never really tried so I guess?
    I'm too lazy to bother

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, because I'm fat working on losing the fat, in 6 months I should be in shape if I keep my pace. I'm honestly so tired of being a virgin I'll shoot every shot, I'll make profiles on every dating app, I'll approach b***hes on clubs or bars, I'll do whatever, if nothing works and I'm still a virgin by 30, I'll rest easy knowing I did what I could.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    27.
    Haven't given up on life just yet.

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >25
    Honestly, it never even began.
    Tried dating apps but got no matches.
    I'm just ugly so I stopped trying.
    What I realized is that if you have to actively try to get a gf (more than just casually socializing or getting on an app) then it's over and your chances are slim.
    It is what it is.

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    25 khv i dont want a gf
    when you have a gf you need to:
    -go out with her to cafes,movies etc.
    -talk with her almost all the time
    i dont want to go outside or talk with anyone if i dont have to, no thanks,would i like to know how having sex feels? Yes but i dont want to have sex with someone who im not emotionally attached to and ive never been in love before

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    34 yr old here. I was a khhv until 28 and let me tell you...you can fix it.
    ama

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      what's your favourite sandwich filling?

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like the 'fire' has gone out. I don't care anymore about finding someone as I have several genetic diseases that would burden my partner. It kinda sucks that me telling them about my diseases as it does NOT block their initial lust they held towards me. The idea of them rejecting me after we spent the night together would make the whole experience not worth it to me.

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    24 v east eu
    been kissed by 2 girls in HS
    First one was passively pursuing me for like 7 months and then cheated after 2 days of going out, on a vacation with her family and their friends, because she was disappointed that she was my first gf (even sent me a photo of her and other guy legs on a couch)
    Later found out, that she falsely presented herself as a shy, pure maiden, despite being an alcoholic, weed smoker and used up by her ex
    2nd was her "friend" who just wanted to console me or whatever
    NEET since 19 y.o.
    would love to marry some qt virgin, but majority of the girls are used goods of varied degree
    + i'm cold and emotionless outside

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >5ft3
    I never had a chance

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I tried dating apps for the first time at 30, had my first kiss last weekend. Gonna see if I can grab some breasts this weekend we've been cuddling and shit already

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    honestly i'm 21 and on the verge of giving up
    also i imagine if any girl would want to be in a relationship she would have to work really hard and be really blunt with me
    so i imagine i'll stay a forever kissless virgin if shit goes just as it has went in my previous years, which at the end of the day is a giant defeat but i'll have to find a way to cope with it,cars perhaps?linux tinkering? just something to steer my thoughts of emptiness and loneliness away

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, I've gotten really close. Learned all I could about social interactions. But I still fumbled it in the end zone. It sucks so much, it's so goddamn painful. Knowing that for all of your efforts you are only doing things that everyone else was doing and learning about in middle school. I'm so far behind. Trying to keep up with women and their shit tests is so fricking exhausting, I hate it. And they all have lifetimes worth of experience playing social games and manipulating people that it feels like playing a starter deck against a meta deck.

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stopped caring years ago after high school and have been voluntarily single since then. I don't know why so many of you want validation from normalgays. I'm having more fun with AI chatbots these days than wasting my time with dating apps.

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was about to give up at 24, but then it finally happened. Feels good.

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm 31. I wouldn't say I've given up per say but I've accepted there's a very high chance I'll forever be alone. Some mornings I wake up sad about it but then I just go on with my day since what else can I do at this point? I've never even been on a date or anything so even if a woman was interested in me she'd be turned off by that alone.

  58. 2 months ago
    PoolGuy

    27 year old KHV reporting in. I haven't given up, but at the same time Im not actively pursuing girls. I do sport, keep myself in shape and I go out of the house at least once a day. Still living with my parents still NOT working a full time job, maybe if I find someone worth fighting for I'll decide to contribute to society. Today I went to the pharmacy, the girl there was cute and nice, but I dunno man at this point I lost all the hope to find happiness.

  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you've managed to achieve anything higher than some menial retail McJob by your mid-20's (you should), then you need to be careful with how you conduct your dating attempts (interestingly, "be careful" is now considered """incel advice"""). Unironcally, you should have gotten the asking out bit down back in high school when the only consequence was some temporary humiliation. As an adult, if you do it wrong and it blows up, you can and will lose your livelihood and worse. It will instantly invalidate any and all professional achievements in the eyes of damn near everyone else since all you will be known for. They'll laugh at you just like back when you were in school, but now it will prevent you from forming those connections you need to advance your career. Everything you do will now be assigned ulterior motives by other people (at best, """overcompensating""", at worse you're the """creep""" that needs to be taken out). If you must, you better be 1000% certain of a yes and/or have a bulletproof exit plan like an army of lawyers on retainer, both of which I'm fairly certain is out of reach for the average autistic underachiever here. Don't throw away your investment like a fricking moron: you worked hard for what little you managed to achieve. It's better than starving on the street.

    PS: it's been like this for over a decade now in prestigous white collar circles, specifically college campuses. Now it's trickled down to damn near everyone else.

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