I'm catholic but would like to have sex before marriage

Am I really that much of a sinner?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you actually genuinely believe in God and/or were raised catholic or are you "le tradcath" Twitter Zoomer who only converted to get brownie points from autistic homies on 4chins. My answer is different for each

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a sin, live your life. Pray to God or the lord, have talk with them.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Here's your answer

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can just confess the morning after you moronic!
    Go to pray instead of asking advice from heretics!

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My catholic gf doesn't think it's a sin.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lmfao bahahahahahahahahahahaha. You better not leave her. You'll frick her up.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not her first boyfriend.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh that's bad. Good luck

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Incel lol

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not lel. Fr don't frick her up. You stupid normalgay.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty normal once you are not a teenager. She had one boyfriend before.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            She's not a virgin

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >be catholic
      >have a set of guidelines and rules
      >one of them says that sex outside of marriage dooms you to hell for eternity
      well I guess if your gf says so, it must be ok

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Why would you think you're an exception to the rule? Pride comes before the fall...

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're going to Hell homie

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I believe X but also want the antithesis of X’s teachings
    Not uncommon, but having the company of other immoral people doesn’t make you any more coherent or moral.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know of many catholics that really care. They mostly treat it like an ideal that would be nice if it were feasible but not like reality.

    You're not gonna be having much sex after marriage either way

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It is not only feasible but demonstrably better for marriage by every metric.
      Even controlling for religiosity, those who wait divorce less, have happier marriages, and even report greater sexual satisfaction.
      Sure, there’s undoubtedly selection effects—the kind of person who would fall to pieces without constant, on-demand, fetishistic sex isn’t going to wait—but the people who actually bother to wait are clearly better off for it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not feasible in that it doesn't happen, not in that a virgin is just as likely to divorce you. That is found even when controlling for IQ and other demographic factors. That's not what the thread is about though.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It can and does happen. The only thing that makes it unlikely is people giving up on it themselves.
          People think it narrows one’s dating pool, but that’s the point of standards to begin with. To select for the kinds of people you actually want to be with. Marriage is the ultimate limitation of one’s dating pool: down to a single person you choose to dedicate your life to.

          Unless you’re looking for chastity in a Scandinavian nightclub, it is far from impossible to find someone able and willing to wait until marriage. In the US, a little over 4% still do.
          Many people succumb to social pressure and never consider waiting as an alternative, but can be introduced to the idea. Another 20% of the population marries their first; a large chunk of these people would undoubtedly resonate with the reasons for waiting (commitment, exclusivity, etc.).

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        less impulsive people have better lives but it isn't abstaining that made them good, it's the fact that they're not impulsive people. if you're born not being able to put the marshmallow aside for 5 minutes nothing's gonna fix that

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It’s not just impulsivity. It’s how people treat each other and their relationships. Waiting is explicitly meant to put commitment before sex, to treat intimacy as something lasting and exclusive.
          That isn’t just a correlation. It’s an expression and realization of basic values. I’m not saying that every single person, regardless of their personal desire, would subjectively feel better off if they’d wait. Clearly, a polygamist won’t be swayed by an argument for complete monogamy.
          I’m saying that people who already value the ideals behind waiting are objectively better served by it.

          An impulsive person probably wouldn’t be able to wait even if they thought lifelong monogamy is romantic, true. But the impulsivity is external; it’s not a measure of what they value in the first place. Similarly, a disciplined sociopath who doesn’t care about others outside of their utility probably wouldn’t care to wait, even if they were more than capable of deferring gratification to get what they want.

          That’s why I mentioned finding someone both able AND willing to wait. Someone who both shares the underlying values and who has the personal discipline to adhere to them.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do it. God will forgive you anyways.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is called presumption and is literally an unpardonable sin.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bullshit. Where does it say that in the bible? Go on. Everyone who sins sins knowingly. The theif next to jesus stole shit knowingly and asked for forgiveness.

        Sooner or later OP will repent for his sins anyway. Why not just endulge and pray to got when you feel guilty?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Literal vermin.

          >Oh shit he "presumed" that the Omnibenevolent Being would be nice

          Unconditional forgiveness of someone who plans out evil isn’t nice. It’s rewarding immorality.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >This Omnibenevolent Being can't be nice to me unless I didnonuffin
            I'm pretty sure the catholic conception of god isn't morally inferior to literally me

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Literal vermin.
            You spite hateful nonsense instead of theological sound arguments.
            I'm afraid it's time for you to confess.
            God will forgive you if you repent even if you don't believe Him to do.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I’m not religious. I just really hate antinomians who cloak their garbage in the language of religion, the law, God, “love”, or anything else. The sophistic snakes whose sole purpose in life is inverting and destroying all meaning outside of the ego.

            They can’t be argued with, because they have zero interest in the truth. I didn’t say ‘vermin’ just because I was THAT mad. I used that word for a reason: you don’t get rid of termites by formal debate.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Bullshit. Where does it say that in the bible?
          Romans 6:1-4, Revelation 3:15-16.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            None of these say there is no forgiveness. Christ cucks keep making shit up. Blasphemous homosexual.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth.
            Ah, yes, so forgiving. moron.

            God won't forgive you if you try to serve him half-heartedly (lukewarm). He'll just spit you out. If you sin with the presumption that God won't hold it against you and try to game his mercy, he'll spit you out.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Could mean anything. Didn't say no forgiveness. You don't even know the context of the scripture

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Christ cucks
            >Blaphemous homosexual

            kek in my days trolling was an art

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Oh shit he "presumed" that the Omnibenevolent Being would be nice

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        presumption is a sin but not an unpardonable one. Sin against the Holy Spirit is the unpardonable sin. Which is hating God for his goodness.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Am I really that much of a sinner?
    Of course, you're a catholic

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't recommend it.
    The absolving of your immortal soul does not lessen the consequences in this life.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >sex
    its great but you can live without it. dont rush it
    t. sinned

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > oh no I have to sacrifice something for the god I claim to worship - whatever will I do?

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine giving a shit about rules made many hundreds of years ago for societies that tried hard to survive.
    Also, yes, you are going to hell, unless you frick church girls in the ass, in which case you'll be fine because they will still be virgins :^)

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Though you already know that and you just want someone to excuse you. Don't go that way, that's the roastie path.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The way I see it, God loves you, God wants you to be happy, God doesn't want you to sin because it's bad for you and will lead you down a dark path. If you're having premarital sex for sinful reasons then he probably would rather you didn't but if you're having premarital sex for reasons of love and faith to your partner and youre being safe about it then I think he would be fine with it.
    The Bible might say one thing but the Bible also says it's okay to beat your slaves, so at a certain point you gotta just derive your own meaning
    t. catholic

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t. catholic

      You are not a catholic

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You see your own happiness, however it’s achieved, as paramount, and you want God to be okay with that. So you pretend He is, because you never believed to begin with. The law’s only purpose, to you, is to provide what you desire. If it can’t, then the highest law of your own ego takes precedence, and you ignore anything else as an obstacle.

      > if you're having premarital sex for reasons of love and faith to your partner
      These are contradictory. Intimacy without commitment devalues both, which is readily apparent from the results of this exact mindset.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is a mortal sin. Which means if you die before confessing you get to enjoy the hot house.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frick a nun, that's what they're for.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    sex drive is natural, having these urges is natural. by feeling this you are not sinning. It is only sin when you consume in it. Since you sin against your own body. Catholic teaching says that man and woman give each other in marriage. Catechism states that marriage is inly valid once consummated, so once sex is had. If a manprostitute or prostitute give themselves 10203928x before marriage, they will not be able to have long term relationships/marriages since they will be always comparing and looking for the next appetite. The next person to frick. There are studies that those who abstain before marriage will have linger healthier marriages and with most sex than the average couple who has sex before marriage.

    Having sex before marriage is also bad because it creates soul tied and exchange of energies from other people. It’s really gross if you think about it whereas finding only one person to have sex everyday for the rest of your life with.

    you can go ahead and have sex, but long term it won’t do you good if you take your catholic faith seriously or your spirituality.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You'll end up boiling in a pot anyway. Sooner you accept it the better.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm catholic but would like to have sex before marriage
    If your gf is virgin then respect your ideals and wait until you marry each other.
    If your gf in non-virgin then leave her and look for another one.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. You're going to hell.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP here; I'm actually still virgin. I've rejected a few girls in the past because I didn't want to sin, but I don't know man...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pray to the lord for your answer

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I was a christcuck once and I did the same. Biggest regret. Anyways. Have sex get it over and done with. Lots of Christians have done it and God has forgiven them just fine.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That line of thinking is a slippery slope, sure you can have premartial sex, and you can be forgiven for it if you truly repent.
    But sin begets sin, a one time thing can turn into routine, a one night stand turning into fricking hookers, pratying, orgies, drugs, etc.
    All the while you'll be thinking "it's ok I can still be forgiven, just one more"
    But can you truly repent if you value pleasure more than your faith?
    And each step you take down it will be harder to climb back up later

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Christcucks always think like this. They make a mountain out of a molehill. In reality nothing happens.

      Have sex anon, it's good for your mental health. Once you do it you can focus on your life and fear of women disappears. You won't waste hours thinking about fricking them 24/7

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Have sex anon, it's good for your mental health.
        This is a complete lie, I've seen tons of people do it once to get it out of the way and they started fricking people constantly, they were miserable afterwards because they felt like a commodity and would constantly tell me how they felt used and alone. I just said "frick it" and stopped caring about having sex and worked on myself instead and I'm the happiest I've ever been even though I'm a virgin in my 20s.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Seems like a cope. If you had also had sex and thought it was bad then maybe, but your literally just coping with being a virgin for a ridiculously long amount of time.

          People don’t in general find sex to be bad. Especially men. Are you gay? Friends with a lot of women?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you can be forgiven for it if you truly repent.
      You can't truly repent if you do it knowing you are going to repent

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He will repent. Many have.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't Catholics have anal sex to bypass this law?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      All anal sex is forbidden in Catholic teachings
      you're thinking Mormons

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tell me where in the bible is says anal sex is forbidden? Don't larp with vaguehoods.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The Sin of Onan.
          Intercourse without chance of procreation is wrong.
          PiV orgasm for men is the rule.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anon if you masterbate to porn you've already fornicated. Why not just have sex for real?

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I am not really a Catholic
    FTFY
    rest of the thread
    >bait-takers

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    everyone is a sinner

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