I'm so far removed from reality, I can't even believe people actually have sex; it seems like something that only happens in movies and book...

I'm so far removed from reality, I can't even believe people actually have sex; it seems like something that only happens in movies and books. I'm seriously supposed to believe that most people go out and join hobby groups, see someone they find attractive, proceed to speak to them without messing up, and essentially seduce the other person, and that somehow leads to sex, and this process is so easy that 99% of people have done it by the age of 35. Literally less than 1 percent of people by the age of 40 are virgins because most people can form relationships and have sex just as naturally as drinking water. Short people, tall people, fat people, skinny people, people with mental disorders, and neurotypical peopleeveryone has had sex at some point in their lives, but yet....i just can't believe it. Maybe I'm an alien. I'm most likely going to be part of that 1 percent that dies a virgin.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >can't even believe people actually have sex;
    haha same
    It's a wierd feeling when I'm talking to some people and then realize how drastically different their life is from mine

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same brothers
      I am typing this from a Greyhound stop at a gas station btw.

      Just embrace the fact that you're a statistical outlier. You won't know by how much until you finally have sex - it could be soon, who knows?

      Sorta but you should actually also realize there are some disturbing trends and the average dude is just "not making it" anymore...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is primarily why i isolate, i can't stand talking to people, i just don't feel human knowing this fundamental aspect of life is barred for me

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm this guy

        >can't even believe people actually have sex;
        haha same
        It's a wierd feeling when I'm talking to some people and then realize how drastically different their life is from mine

        I don't think you should isolate
        Maybe do what I do:
        I don't isolate, I don't seek any social interactions but I don't try to avoid them, if they happen they happen
        Though I don't know what your struggling with, maybe you're socially anxious and if so I'd understand why you'd want to isolate
        >fundamental aspect of life
        personally I don't even care about sex, I could buy it whenever

        but what's a little sad for me is how easy it is for them to make social connections (friendships and relationships) while throughout my whole life I couldn't even get a friend

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah i shouldn't project onto you, my bad
          >socially anxious
          that's mostly it, maybe general anxiety, i feel this vague pervasive sense of dread at the reminder of how different my life is, it really honestly physically hurts when i can't immediately escape the reminder, i tried medication and that did shut it off, but the ed took away one of my only sources of pleasure in life and i was gaining weight a lot easier too so i had to get off it

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just embrace the fact that you're a statistical outlier. You won't know by how much until you finally have sex - it could be soon, who knows?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Some people stay virgins from womb to tomb

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They are usually called cat ladies.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Bachelors too are a thing

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, but most bachelors have sex. Just wear a condom.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe with escorts yeah.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah man
    they really do live wildly different lives
    its kind of unreal how we can eat the same soon, breathe the same air, drink the same water, sit on the same table

    but they are fricking a diffent girl a week while partying and making money, while im a autistic virgin loser who escapes the pain with videogames

    its stunning

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How much do you even want to party or live a life like you've just described? Companionship is nice, but I've never wanted to party or live the stereotypical wild life, but that's just me.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        i want to experience something
        im a 30+ virgin, anon
        i want something, and i have absolutely nothing
        id like to have lots of sex, because thats better than nothing
        id like to have intimacy, love, feeling a girls naked body, creampieing her, having her fall in love with me, etc

        idk. i just want something, and i just dont have anything

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Same bro
          There used to be elusive girls who would come into these types of threads and offer to help guys like us, but it always felt contrived.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >30 virgin
          How the frick is that possible? Did you never go to school when you were a teenager?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            weak bait anone

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dude there are tons of us
            Just because we slip thru the cracks invisibly doesn't mean we aren't there
            Do you have a female cousin you could introduce us to?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            they're just a baiter that's their schtick, I've seen the exact same argument countless times in other threads. it's just a way to get (you)s, they're not actually asking.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I am actually asking. i don't really understand it. when i was younger finding a girlfriend was literally everything to me because of how crazy hormones are. there was never an option to be an adult virgin, especially not in the modern world

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >because of how crazy hormones are.
            https://testosteronedecline.com/

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            lmaoo this will prolly rile someone up but I know you're just doing it for kicks. we all know the guys at the back of the class who got zero b***hes, it's natural that it would extend into adulthood. for every 1 nerd that makes it out, 100 including me failed despite our best efforts. staying single for the vast majority of men is very easy if they are not pursuing.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I sat at the back of the class. It's usually the special kid in the front that seems to have less sex on average.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            metaphorically speaking, you know what I mean. the guys who are isolated, front or back of the class semantics don't matter. in my school the spergs all sat at the back so we could mess around on our computers.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            also those crazy hormones could easily be diverted into porn if you're striking out with girls at an early age. I know because I was talking to girls and asking them out, they would reject me and I would just go home to fap furiously to porn. eventually it sticks as an easy out to getting humiliated for the crime of trying to get your dick wet. now you could go to jail if you're sloppy in your approach.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >porn
            nah that's degenerate and just makes it worse.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            for sure, not denying that. eventually I tempered myself, but you also have to ask for what. because not fapping to porn doesn't suddenly make women want you. it does make you more desperate though, and can make you a bit of a sex-pest making a fool of yourself for the hope of bringing a girl back home. I know from half a year of nofap it just made me more degenerate in my lust. tried wacking it out in the shower without porn, but there's no fantasies for me to glean on, women never wanted me. can't really imagine sex with women I work with or know irl because it makes my stomach crawl, knowing they don't see me that way. so you could pound out weights to slightly relieve the sexual frustration for a bit, but your libido will go up afterwards and you fap even more. so there isn't a solution, other than saying porn bad because..it just is ok? when they say porn isn't real life what they mean is that you will likely never get passionate sex, only starfish sex with a woman who is done being sexual with the men she actually liked. outside of extreme measures like castration pills, there isn't really a solution. so, do you have any solutions? because I would like to hear it. I've tried basically everything.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            it's more important that you want women. you don't need to make all women "suddenly" want you, but nobody is special enough to be unwanted universally. some women don't know what they want, some women will take what they can get, and others are just looking for comfort or a rebound or have some other vulnerability that may or may not be an ethical question but everyone still ends up having sex, it's basically biological.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I wish I could see the world like you. think some people just have really bad luck. maybe some guys aren't good enough to be any of those things you listed. can't really be a rebound if you have no experience, can't be comfort. I'm lesser than the men they can get, even if they're scraping bottom of the barrel. maybe if I go to jakarta or some third world country, I could attract a woman but can't just leave my job since I can't take vacation even with all my PTO .
            >special enough to be unwanted universally
            I'm not so sure from my experiences.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            if i had bad luck i would just be dead already.

            could i ask you a quick question? how did you learn to use a computer? you had no experience and its not even natural.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I learned to use the computer through reading a manual, the messed around with the OS

            I had no experience, but someone showed me how to do it, read up on it and learned more myself. it's pretty natural for humans to use tools, which is how we started civilization.

            you can't read on how to get women, apply it and see results congruent to what you learned. women aren't a monolith in that regard, each one is different. no one showed me how to approach women, in fact I was discouraged from having female friends by family. so I went out and talked to women anyway, learning interaction myself with little to no progress in trying to bed one. it's natural to try to approach women, it's unnatural to remain alone into your 30s despite it. so I looked to myself, fixed what I could and still no results. so why bother trying anymore. I will be 40 in a decade. It's obvious I'm a leftover man. homelife wasn't good either, didn't have two parents who cared about each other so I could learn from that and emulate it. no surprise how I turned out.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >i had no experience
            exactly. so you should have been too unlucky to be able to learn

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            well someone did show me and I learned myself, so I was good on that. I have a brain to learn. brains don't equal sex kek.

            Aight bro didn't know this was an interrogation

            it can be anything you want it to be, babe

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            i think using a computer is just luck. there are no rules or logic involved.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            computers are nothing but logic doe
            girls ain't logical, lmao suggesting otherwise is pretty misogynistic

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            i'm p. sure that there is no logic in computers. it's all just luck

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I hope I didn't break you poor nonny 🙁 if you say it enough times it might come true lmao.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            nobody said it wasn't true lol

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            nobody said my dick was 12 inches yet here we are, I have a 12 inch behemoth in my pants. it's just logic.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            imagine if you applied this persistence with actually finding a loving partner, instead of believing some myth about luck. people like you always prove me right its wild.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            in my experience persistence does more harm than help with women. it's great for getting raises at work tho. it's all about effort to reward ratio, imo. spent the effort, no reward, no more trying as relationships are out of my control. to believe otherwise I think is delusional. though I welcome arguments. relationships are 90% luck 10% self improvement.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It has nothing to do with improvement. Relationships have a hint inside the word. Being relatable. Its almost all in your control if you are a man, thats usually how hetero relationships work. But if you are the expert on how everything is just luck and you cant actually learn English or whatever, thats fine too. You are making the mistake of overthinking a natural life experience, thats not a virtue

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            being relatable is not a grounds to build a relationship. I have related with a number of women, they just want to be friends. you underestimate how much raw attraction has to do with it, i.e. your genes = luck. the only thing in my control is approaching. what comes after is usually a mess. therefore I don't approach. simple a-s.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Approaching is not the way to do it. Why are you talking with conviction about something you have zero understanding of? Your friendships are still relationships, and the skills you learn inside of friendships are literally the same ones you apply in 99% of romantic relationships. Raw meme attraction is only for transactional relationships, and that has nothing to do with luck either because men can just pay for it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Approaching is not the way to do it.
            >Its almost all in your control if you are a man.

            so women are just supposed to fall out of the sky in my lap then. if that's your premise, then it doesn't sound like it's in a man's control to me, man. you can be vague all you want though doesn't bother me, I understand it's easier to be like that so you can always argue in your favor. it's not one thing it's another. you're doing it wrong, you should do this that will net you zero women. it's apparent you just want to be right, which is fine by me but I will point out what I think is wrong. your anecdote vs mine, anons can decide who is right or wrong.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, clearly doing something wrong is wrong. Otherwise you would have a girlfriend. You are categorically vague about meme genes as well, despite the fact that your parents probably had sex, so nuance trolling is not your position in the first place. I was simply showing you that you have as much capacity to find a girlfriend as anyone else, proven by your basic abilities to communicate and be persistent. If you figure out how to be relatable, then you will have relationships. This isnt a conversation about becoming elected president, its about a biological reality that we are almost all born with.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            we can agree to disagree

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >proven by
            Nothing was proven except his inability to have a gf. You can't assume just because most people can do something then everyone can do it. Posts like this made the meme where someone tells a limbless person he just doesn't try to walk hard enough. You are assuming if someone can form basic sentences and doesn't miss a body part then they can't have any other issue that interferes with anything they might want to do.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is what talking to incels like you is like.
            Absorb it

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It is more like this.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame af

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It is more like this.

            Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame af

            >none of those things prevents you from talking to people
            >you use them as an excuse to not talk to people
            See
            [...]

            >strawmanning
            >false equivalency
            >gaslighting
            >ad homs
            >rinse and repeat
            the normie playbook is getting very old.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Incel
            >I work slow and that is why I cannot talk to people. Also, I wear glasses. And I am unfit for military duty
            Humans
            >why does any of that prevent you from talking to people?
            Incel
            >GASLIGHTING! AD HOM! WHY ARE YOU ATTACKING ME?! REEEEEEEEEE!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >misrepresentation
            yawn

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >quotes are misrepresentation!
            lol
            lmao, even

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            you're misrepresenting the situation. most people dunk on glasses-wearers as it's a sign of bad genes = low-status. the whole nerd connotation doesn't help. it definitely prevents you from making girlfriends, making friends is also more difficult.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            > most people dunk on glasses-wearers
            LOLOL!
            Not since the 1950s, Richie Cunningham!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't live in reality
            thanks for confirming shitposter

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            In my 28 years on the planet wearing glasses since I was 6 and with about 50% of all my male and female friends also wearing glasses I have never, ever heard of anyone being mocked or treated badly for wearing glasses, ever. It certainly never stopped any of us from talking to people!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Why does slow talking / doing anything prevent you to talk to people?
            You are right. People love tards around them. Women become wet when a guy who can barely form coherent sentences asks them out.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the glasses are SO BIG they cover my mouth, ok?!?!?!?!?!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Raw meme attraction is only for transactional relationships
            to me it's the only way to not have transactional relationships. nothing meme about being an outgoing, attractive tall guy, women eat at their feet.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Being with someone for their height is empty and transactional. You are leaving out a lot of other criteria. Men eat at prostitutes feet because they sell sex. Avoid transactional relationships and you will be fine

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            on that basis you could make the argument every relationship is transactional. even when you relate to someone, you are exchanging that information of relatability. that's transactional, otherwise you wouldn't be paired off. what relationship isn't transactional outside of a mom or dad caring for their kid? and even then, if the kid doesn't follow their parents' advice or meet expectations, their love will diminish so even that's transactional.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >nobody is special enough to be unwanted universally

            In my 30 years not one single female has expressed romantic interest in me, if that's not proof I don't know what is.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            the important thing is to express romantic interest in females. most people have self awareness, like for example when you learn to feed yourself instead of waiting for someone to express an interest in feeding you.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Good idea the next time I'm horny I'll just take the nearest woman for myself.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It would be curious if all incels really do only have an interest in harming women and not anything amicable or romantic

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Aight bro didn't know this was an interrogation

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            anyway all I'll say is porn is a decent pacifier for sexual urges, it's not good but more a necessary evil.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            oh actually there is one thing I found to help with sexual urges, fasting is pretty good for that temporarily. eventually you have to eat and your libido shoots up again. nicotine also suppresses sexual appetite. but both of those are kind of destructive.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            it's bait but if anyone doesn't believe this I graduated 2 years ago. I played sports athletic and lifted. nothing happened, not even a conversation.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not everyone who has sex is partying and fricking a different girl every week. Most men are content to have sex with their wife or gf for years at a time because even for sex-havers getting to that point isnt always easy.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That sounds amazing. Ive never had sex that lasted for years at a time. 30 minutes maybe, but not years.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I used to have roommates, all of which had gfs or wives and I would frequently hear them going at it through the walls. of which I'd have to play music on my headphones turned to max, or I'd go outside. my unit was the only one which caved in from a storm so I moved back in with my family. gotta say my luck has been so bad in life it's bordering on the supernatural.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is the primary reason why I don't want to have roommates when I move out hearing that would definitely push me over the edge

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        One time I was woken at 2am to my roommates going at it and I had to wake up at 4am everyday to get to work. so I did flipout and I threatened to knock the guy out. I was very on edge for reasons unrelated to my roommates, messing with my sleep was the last straw. I don't give a shit if they keep it down but sexhavers tend to like making as much noise as possible. it was a flex for them. landlord didn't do anything to me because I paid my rent early all the time, but I got out of there involuntarily so I'm more peaceful these days.

        if you ever move out make sure it's your own place, lesson learned. saving the money living with roommates is unbearable especially when they're shit, and most are shit.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    And to add more salt to the wound they 1% of virgins over the age of 40 are probably celibate due to religious reason were such huge outliers it's essentially unheard of being a virgin at that age involuntarily

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What really baffles me is how easy it was for me to become a late age virgin. If it was so easy for me why do 99%+ of guys just magically dodge this bullet?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why don't you just go to a massage parlor or find an escort/prostitute? Maybe go out of your home country to find one? It seems like you are the one holding yourself back when the answer is right in front of you.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Escorts/greencard prostitutes don't solve the fundamental problem at all, in fact going to a hooker would just be a bitter reminder that I have to pay hundreds just for basic intimacy.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            So you just want intimacy with someone and that it really isn't about your virginity then.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >If it was so easy for me why do 99%+ of guys just magically dodge this bullet?
        I think it's because the majority of men will do anything to get a gf. maybe we just don't want it bad enough to get rejected by 100+ women just for one date which might not go anywhere. from what I see normies are constantly mingling, constantly swiping on the apps, constantly hitting the gym and trying to get raises at work etc. I was on a self-improvement arc and even the women I attracted were trashfires, they were fat, or had kids, or had mental issues etc. I basically soft-rejected them and went back to doing the bare minimum. no female attention since then.

        I just don't see the value in working hard for these women. if you could attract a better girl self improvement might be worth it, but it's never guaranteed you'll attract anyone, and it takes months of hard work to find any woman who'd want to date you. it's an effort to reward ratio thing for us I believe. objectively we're not any uglier or weirder than the majority of normies especially after covid. the women I could attract at my best just aren't worth it, so I quit trying with women, and lo and behold I said frick it. I'll just have fun being single and wack off. I've noticed women are more than happy to cheat on their bfs or husbands all the time, it's not worth getting into a relationship so many of them are looking for penis on the side.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the majority of men will do anything to get a gf. maybe we just don't want it bad enough to get rejected by 100+ women just for one date which might not go anywhere.
          This is actually a false narrative.
          We are a symptom, we are not the cause.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not saying it's 100% our fault but more like 50/50. no one wants to meet us halfway but also we're not doing absolutely everything we can to up our chances like the normalgays do. the difference is they go through constant humiliation and hits to the ego just for one date. it isn't really easy for them either, the ones that have it come naturally have been in and out of relationships since early highschool. so the experience does carry over. now with apps the game is harder for everyone. you want to go through all that for the chance at a gf? I tried and couldn't go through the humiliation of asking women out constantly. most are snarky and cruel, I don't want that for a gf.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >not doing absolutely everything we can t
            anon please speak for yourself
            Not everybody is just like you

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            maybe you're right, not trying to project. but have you asked any women out recently? I haven't. not trying to say you're lazy or anything.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            This. I ascended basically by just going after 100s of women a year and accepting humiliation and rejection and bullshit over and over and over again. Its like job hunting in so many ways

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'd be too demoralized to even have a gf at that point. I like the fantasy more than reality. You could at least shoulder the humiliation, I don't have the self esteem for that. It would drive me insane. To each his own.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Where do you even meet hundreds of women clubs and bars I'm guessing? Are you going out with friends or were you going out alone

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            not that anon but it's likely a mix of apps, irl cold approaches and asking women out at school and work. you could count a left swipe as a rejection nowadays.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            all of those are bad options. you meet a lot of girls just living a normal life through your social circle and at events. don't waste your time on complete strangers

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Also it only took a handful of rejections to crumble for me. I wouldn't be able to keep the girl if I was lucky enough to get a relationship.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It just all comes down to being neurotypical and somewhat social most people aren't on a constant self improvement journey just to get a girlfriend humans are supposed to just naturally socialize with each other without much effort our brains are wired to enjoy socializing but for us something went wrong and were thrown into a world that's hard to navigate because it simply wasn't made for us so to answer your question most people avoided becoming virgins because the Majority of people are neurotypical

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It kinda just happens sometimes

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, it's just that media portraits anything relationship-related wrong. You base your reasoning on a false information.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My issue is I hate being rejected consistently by condescending people who likely see me as subhuman for simply existing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      precisely which is another point that makes approaching women not worth it when you're a guy like us. sure you could do it for the 0.001% chance a girl will give you a number, only to discover it's fake. at the end of that process you've just wasted a lot of time and emotional investment into something that never paid off. legitimately not worth it when you're an unattractive guy by default.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not as easy as drinking water for most, but people usually want it badly enough to get it by 35.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You guys are just behind in certain skills.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The fact they always assume I have no friends and am some kind of social recluse is annoying, Women are in their own league of difficulty people should just straight up acknowledge that

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        how many times in the last month did you contact a friend/have a friend contact you and go out with them?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          you know the truth is "never"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The updated pic is much more accurate

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >learn to talk to men
        It is funny because I can't talk to men either. Thus we are back to square one where nobody can help. The actual "truth" is if you are really an incel and not a normie who is down on his luck for a while then nothing can help. However admitting this bothers the general population because they love to think everything they achieved in life is thanks to their own great personality and hard work. If they admit someone was born without a chance it will drag them down.

        That is why this advice pulls the "build a life" as a bare minimum necessity for sex when we all know this was never a requirement as poorgays have the most children.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Of course you can learn. Yes, it will be hard. yes, you are far behind.
          All of your whiny cope that you "can't" is disproven by how you write out the post. If you have the intelligence and capacity to WRITE A POST you can talk.
          So it is not a lack of language, it is a lack of the willpower to speak in person.
          In the end, you are CHOOSING to socially isolate yourself.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why do you assume if someone is not a potato then they can do anything? Because you love to think you are such a hard working and smart person.
            I failed the basic driving test dozens of times. Multiple schools and instructors advised to give it up because I simply can't pay attention to multiple things at the same time.
            I have official papers issued by the government I'm unfit for military service. In fact I have papers about genetic defects I didn't know about until I became old because guys like you always threw me a "you are just lazy" as an advice.
            I have bad eyesight, I always had trouble with reading. I'm wearing glasses for someone who is 20 years older than me. I can't really use small screens because I can barely read them. (thankfully you don't need smartphones for anything nowadays).
            I'm also slow, I was always slow, I got it from my mother who always needed to work twice as long to do what other persons do to finish her job. No one hired me when they saw I need too much time to finish anything.

            But hey, I can form a few coherent sentences in 15-30 minutes for a post so I have no issues because you said so. The only thing I don't understand still is why are such smart persons here, shitting on the less fortunate. They could do anything else since they are so smart.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They just want the engagement really. Makes them feel better about themselves. No one who browses here is a happy or fulfilled person and that's fact. If they were slaying they wouldn't be here.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >none of those things prevents you from talking to people
            >you use them as an excuse to not talk to people
            See

            This is what talking to incels like you is like.
            Absorb it

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >talk to people

            Why do you assume if someone is not a potato then they can do anything? Because you love to think you are such a hard working and smart person.
            I failed the basic driving test dozens of times. Multiple schools and instructors advised to give it up because I simply can't pay attention to multiple things at the same time.
            I have official papers issued by the government I'm unfit for military service. In fact I have papers about genetic defects I didn't know about until I became old because guys like you always threw me a "you are just lazy" as an advice.
            I have bad eyesight, I always had trouble with reading. I'm wearing glasses for someone who is 20 years older than me. I can't really use small screens because I can barely read them. (thankfully you don't need smartphones for anything nowadays).
            I'm also slow, I was always slow, I got it from my mother who always needed to work twice as long to do what other persons do to finish her job. No one hired me when they saw I need too much time to finish anything.

            But hey, I can form a few coherent sentences in 15-30 minutes for a post so I have no issues because you said so. The only thing I don't understand still is why are such smart persons here, shitting on the less fortunate. They could do anything else since they are so smart.

            >impossible, I wear glasses
            Every fricking incel is crazy

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >need to wear two different glasses
            >glasses are so strong no normalgay can even comprehend them
            >vision get blurry all the time, can't focus on small letters, post are full screen on my monitor and I need software to read me long texts
            normalgay translation:
            >lol why would this interfere with getting a cushy office job?
            >lol why wouldn't any woman throw themselves on this guy who will probably be blind in a few years

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Again, slowly-
            Why
            Does
            Having
            Glasses
            Stop
            You
            From
            Talking
            To
            Men
            ?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            He is a low IQ incel, he forgot the post he was replying to

            >learn to talk to men
            It is funny because I can't talk to men either. Thus we are back to square one where nobody can help. The actual "truth" is if you are really an incel and not a normie who is down on his luck for a while then nothing can help. However admitting this bothers the general population because they love to think everything they achieved in life is thanks to their own great personality and hard work. If they admit someone was born without a chance it will drag them down.

            That is why this advice pulls the "build a life" as a bare minimum necessity for sex when we all know this was never a requirement as poorgays have the most children.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            there is absolutely nothing stopping this guy from talking to men, same way there is absolutely nothing stopping you from talking to [insert whatever athlete or celebrity or whatever you actually admire]

            do you think they want or have time to talk to you?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            no and that's a barrier stopping you from talking to them. unless you want to catch a harassment charge kek. that anon is too funny.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >there is absolutely nothing stopping this guy from talking to men
            Obviously
            >there is absolutely nothing stopping you from talking to [insert whatever athlete or celebrity or whatever you actually admire]
            I have had nice conversations with several celebrities.
            >I used to live in Carmel
            It isn't hard, at all.
            And the incel homosexual isn't trying to corner Chris Pratt, he's too scared to talk to a classmate

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Just talk to men? JUST TALK TO MEN?! Do you think the President would want to talk to YOU? HUH?!?!

            me talking to a normal functional person is like you trying to corner Chris Pratt. lots and lots of reasons why. but i am out of my place and my element and i will be punished for my insolence. i always am

            >ive had lots of nice conversations with celebrities

            i guess they have to try and be saints so that no one tells the world they are dickheads. most people dont have that on em. they are free to tell those they find repulsively inferior to frick off

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >any and every excuse to never try
            I know, kid.
            I know.

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          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            the worst emotional pain you have ever experienced is nothing like the pure hatred and abuse normies project at me whenever i dare violate their field of perception. try and deny it. all im doing is typing words at you over the internet and you instinctively loathe me for my inferiority

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Incels only gave three messages
            >REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
            >WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
            and
            >I hate everyone

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            AND they wonder why they haven't any friends

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            why have you put cause and effect ass backwards. cant you remember at grade school kids you mostly ignored but when you did interact you kicked around and shit on cos you had instinctive disgust for them. how do you suppose they turned out. was it their responsibility to please you and become acceptable to you, in some way you can't even define

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >cant you remember at grade school kids you mostly ignored but when you did interact you kicked around and shit on cos you had instinctive disgust for them
            No.
            I never abused anyone.
            We had some weirdos that refused to talk to people. Everyone ignored them.
            I remember Richie, though. elementary and middle school he was silent, sullen, refused to talk to anyone, wouldn't look you in the eye. Like that through freshman HS year
            Sophomore year? Totally different. Talked, cracked jokes, made a wide circle of friends, that Summer he was fricking Rachel.
            Maybe you should be like Richie and grow the frick up

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >weirdos that refused to talk to people.
            did you try to talk to them or just assumed that?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Just talk to men? JUST TALK TO MEN?! Do you think the President would want to talk to YOU? HUH?!?!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Learn to talk to men, make some friends
        Done. Been done for over a decade. Having male friends does not make it any easier to get women to like you lol

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Even if you get male friends none of them will actually help you with your relationship problems
        Either they think it'll be beneath them, give advice that just doesn't work for you, or more commonly are also incels and thus has as much experience and idea about it as you do.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm seriously supposed to believe that most people go out and join hobby groups, see someone they find attractive, proceed to speak to them without messing up, and essentially seduce the other person, and that somehow leads to sex,
    They don't even do that anymore
    they literally download an app swipe left on a picture of them and they're fricking in less than an hour.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    1 percenter here. Yeah it is pretty wild. I'm working in the same shitty retail job I got by pure luck. I have no idea how people just decide to have careers, get the education for it and find a job (where they get in the upper positions as the time passes). It is surreal. Sex is the same.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the world needs ditchdiggers, too, son

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I ascended at 24. Before then I did was a hermit crab who lived in his room and only went out for fast food and to work dead end jobs to make enough money for rent. I had and have only one friend. But I never felt I could relate to anyone before I met my girlfriend.

    The start of my journey was me recognizing that I was living life wrong and wanting to change that. Over the course of years, I rebuilt my ego and self esteem piece by piece. I had to basically recreate confidence to the point my everyday constant stress couldn't affect me too much anymore. Then I got a job with my family for $13 an hour and moved into my grandmother's house, which I know is a lot to ask if your parents can't help you, but making money and having free rent helps with budgeting for dates and all the time spent on dating apps. I pushed thru any humiliation or anxieties because I remembered the worse feeling: the feeling you had at your rockbottom, you know the one.

    So many times before, during, and after using dating apps, I had to cope. I would tell myself that it's okay that I was a loser before and that I could one day ascend. True confidence is feats-based, so once you have actually done stuff, you have that memory, that knowledge, and you no longer need to cope. Breaking past that wall of anxiety and nerves, that constant bickering at myself, it's so liberating. It's like finally getting that weight off your shoulder, no longer having a crippling toothache, or being let out of prison to start living your life. To put it another way, I don't even worry about my past or how long it took me to ascend anymore. Those things just feel like minor inconveniences, when before they were the dull pain I felt at every waking moment.

    Don't beat yourself up because you're living wrong. You're not wrong for living wrong, you know? It's all you know or all you had to cope. You're not making any mistakes that can't eventually be fixed and forgotten about. Even if youre older than me you can ascend

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >how did you make it through high school without losing your virginity
    i went to an all boys school. maybe three quarters of us were virgins when we graduated

    everyone else got a gf during their first year of college though. except me. and a couple of v religious dudes. and the one guy who was even more autistic than me but literally asexual. he occasionally had drunk chicks grinding on him and would nervously run away like "noooo lemme get back to my beer" it was bemusing. funnily enough his autistic hyperobsession was this one particular soccer team, so he actually never lacked for chad friends and hearty backslapping social interaction. im glad i wrote this blogpost it should give you people a window into nonarchetypal lives

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you guys think there will ever come a point where normalgays finally admit we were right about women? Or will they take their pride to the grave?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      they would rather shit up NSFFW for easy (You)s and not have any actual arguments. misrepresentation, gaslighting, ad homs are the normie's bread and butter. they have to be right, even when they're wrong. best to dismantle their arguments calmly and succinctly so other robots can take note. inflammatory responses is all they want so they can feed their ego.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why would they admit it? what's in it for them?
      same reason there's nothing to lose if an incel shits on women (not like women can get a lower opinion from them) there's nothing a normalgay will lose if the incel remains an incel. Either they are right and you're just fricking around or you are right and any and all conversation is futile meaning there's no point in saying anything let alone agree with you.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When you see that 99% or whatever of 35+ year-olds have had sex, you assume that everyone who was a virgin in their 20s eventually had sex. In reality, many of the virgin dudes just kill themselves and can't be counted in the statistic any longer. Also the percentage of virgins at that age is going to be getting a lot higher in the coming years.

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