I'm thinking of opening a gay bar and grille up in Provincetown, that is heterosexual friendly someday.

I'm thinking of opening a gay bar and grille up in Provincetown, that is heterosexual friendly someday.

Are there any business owners or restaurant operators here? What kind of costs would I be looking at to get the business off the ground?

And what do you think is a better name, The Blue Rooster or The Rainbow Rooster?

I don't want to name it anything with "wiener" in it, I want to open a casual bare and grille, not a strip club.

UFOs Are A Psyop Shirt $21.68

DMT Has Friends For Me Shirt $21.68

UFOs Are A Psyop Shirt $21.68

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    have a nice day, homosexual.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, I love life too much. I'm not going to be responsible for your insecurities. I don't owe you a damn thing. Plus I don't believe in suicide. I don't even support euthanasia.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why are you talking about me? have a nice day, homosexual.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ~$1.4m for the property
    ~$250k renovations
    ~$150k equipment
    ~$20k licensing
    ~$20k initial food/drink stocking
    ~$20k initial payroll/labor/training
    however much you want to spend on grand opening marketing
    contingency fund of 10-15% of that total for unforeseen misfortune

    my uncle needed just over $2M for starting a restaurant in Haverhill, I can't speak on Provincetown specifically, but MA is gonna be in that neighborhood. Three years later he had to close the restaurant too, because most restaurants are failures.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >75% cost from buying the property
      why didn't he just rent? is your uncle moronic?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How much are banks generally willing to loan. I have a little over a million dollars in assets. Should I look for a cheaper venue?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How much of that $1MM do you plan to put on the downpayment? If restaurants are anything like other asset classes, a Bank would probably be willing to give you 70% leverage.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe about half to 75%. I don't want to put absolutely everything on the line.

          Would finding a business partner or two first be more of a feasible option. I had a friend who wanted to open a bar with me a few other friends, not a gay bar though, he's straight. I considered it but then the fricking pandemic hit. Probably best that we didn't open one right before it happened. I've since lost contact with him. He had some family issues.

          I doubt he would be interested in opening a gay bar. The most flattering thing he ever told me was that I changed his opinions on gay people. He said he used to hate us.

          We used to hang out at a local pub drinking beer and playing darts. God, I miss those days. Sharing a pitcher of beer, with some frickles and just talking. Too bad the place didn't also have a pool table.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dont waste your money on the heterosexual friendly part. Straights don't want to go to gay bars. It'll just eat into your profits

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gay-friendly bars are definitely money making since you're capturing a bunch of women who love high-end wienertails. But gays or women don't want the fried food/sports of your typical B&G.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can have a B&G that is karaoke or music oriented instead of sports. Ever seen the show Bar Rescue? There are plenty of places that are geared towards being music venues.

        Can you explain what "gay bar and grille that is heterosexual friendly" is, and what makes it different from any other bar/grill?
        Maybe you should make a fricking foot fetishist bistro that's armpit friendly
        Just pure gobbledyasiatic

        It means it's primary target demographics is gay and bi men, but is welcoming to heterosexuals. Straight women love a good gay bar.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >target demographics is gay and bi men
          Explain how you target these men. Food is food, no? Are there dildos in the seats?
          "I'm looking to make a restaurant that primarily appeals to men who like receiving penis into their rectum"
          "I want my movie theater to primarily appeal to people with cleft palate"
          "My used car dealership will ideally appeal to people who like ranch dip"

          If you were making a club, this would make a lot more sense. Will there be a male-only brothel on the side?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, you open it as a safe space, with rainbow flags and all male bartenders, with gay iconography all over the walls. If people in the community know it's owned and operated by a gay man and that most or all of the bartenders are gay men and they see certain signs they'll know it's a gay bar. Gay people pick up on signs and symbols. That's why way back in the day, before people said they were gay, they had certain "speak easy" type bars where gays men and women would go to dance and drink. Cops often loved to raid the places and they had a special alarm button to alert the customers that they were coming, and the lesbians and gay men would switch dance partners and pretend to be heterosexual couples as to not get arrested. Back then, way before we were born people wouldn't ask "Are you gay"? They would ask "Are you a friend of Dorothy?" which was a reference to Judy Garland who was a gay icon.

            Word of mouth is a very powerful tool.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You'd be surprised. You know how many gay hags and gay stags love a gay bar. Straight women will go to them because they feel safer around gay men and straight men will go there to try and pick up the straight women. You must've never been to a gay bar in your life. Those places are pakced with hetero women and straight dudes trying to get laid. I had a straight friend aka a "gay stag", who loved to go with me every time I went to the local gay bar just so he could try to pick up on the omen there. He said he got better women from gay bars/ clubs than he did at regular bars/ clubs.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can you explain what "gay bar and grille that is heterosexual friendly" is, and what makes it different from any other bar/grill?
    Maybe you should make a fricking foot fetishist bistro that's armpit friendly
    Just pure gobbledyasiatic

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do you have any experience on the operations / management side of restaurants? From my limited experience as a bartender, it's not easy to establish a successful restaurant. Margins are extremely thin and you're going to have a hard time finding a location where you aren't paying a shitton to own the lot or even more to rent it. Is there a large gay community in Provincetown? I'm not familiar with Massachusetts / Cape Cod area. Are there any other gay bar & grilles in the area?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, do you bartend at a gay bar and how long have you been bartending?

      There's a gay bar about an hour away. It's called "The Park". I was confused when on a Saturday night a group of my gay friends were talking about going to "The Park". And I was like "really were' going to be hanging out in a public park on a Saturday night? who does that". They got a good laugh out of that.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Or If you really want to confuse people call it the "Bear and Girl Bar and Grill".

    Bears as in that gay sub culture and girls well as in girls. That would be interesting to see who all shows up.

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *