Is it true men cannot be true friends with women?

Are men really just that primitive that they can't be trusted to have genuine friendships or love for women without expecting romance sub-consciously? (Unless he's gay)

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women are terrible friends, compared to men.

    I have more in common with, and more potential for true friendship with, even the men who are my enemies than with any woman.

    The only reason to talk to a woman at all is to romance her, or perhaps to use your acquaintance with her to integrate into some broader social circle where you might find men to befriend or other women to bed.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every single woman i've tried to be friends with just waited until i was vulnerable to have a go at me

  3. 3 weeks ago
    neanderthal kun

    i'm gay but have no women friends. should i make friends with women? i just subconsciously feel like id make them creeped out

    • 3 weeks ago
      neanderthal kun

      i mean i've talked to a few fembots on here and they were nice

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i mean i've talked to a few fembots on here and they were nice

      No woman that browses this website is worth knowing

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    here's what I do know, women with a lot of guy friends are emotionally dysfunctional

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    True but men dont owe you friendship femchud

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They can if he is already in a happy healthy relationship where such things are already satisfied.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why? Im a depressed loner whos never had a gf, prob never will, but I have many female friends that I enjoy's company because they are my friends. Sure, I'd prob date any of them if they were down but they arent. They still make good friends. I dont let my own foolish desire for intimacy control my actions around them, I treat them like my male friends.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    are you... are you an idiot?
    what's the point of this thread
    you know the answer god damn well

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >All men I meet only want my pussy
    >This means all women and all men can't be genuine friends
    These women are so close to getting it. Almost as the problem is inside of them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what are you fricking gay homie? ofc it's ab pussy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        moronic pederast, they cant fathom being friends with men because they just have no personality and only have pussy to offer. Your child molesting ass and I agree, dumb pederast.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          brother the satellites are overreacting it's time for your medication

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe in high school, but among adults it is possible. Especially if both people are married and have healthy relationships already. There might be some early on tension, but as long as that resolves then friendship can happen.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its not that I dislike women, but they are sort of a net negative in general to be around and to associate with. Even when I tried to be just friends with women, there are so many instances where I provide for them like a boyfriend, or even a father figure would have and cannot say they truly helped me with anything personal. In the instance where they offered it say advice, or rather gave me the unsolicited advice, its so generalized and corny that it doesn't help me at all, but worst of all it is so far out of context that it makes me feel even shittier. You know isolation doesn't make you dumber, you often spend a lot of time consuming random reading material, but a lot of the women I meet socialize to learn and this is probably why they are often ignorant and yet simultaneously arrogant. Basically, most people who have something very important to say are rare and you have to go out of your way to find them, the common man will not be able to help you with complex spiritual or philosophical problems and especially not a common woman. ESPECIALLY NOT.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's possible for a guy to not find you attractive, and still hang out with you. At least that's true for me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i'm vomitting

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My brother's girlfriend is 14 years older than me, and I like to hang out with her, even though I don't find her attractive at all.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          how do you guys frick then

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Through our cloacae

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    women aren't interesting to keep them around as friends,we just pretend they are because of pussy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can someone find the archive on the picrel, I wanna lurk that thread?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://desuarchive.org/NSFFW/thread/10044579/#10044579

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is crazy, thanks. It's insane to me that they are using the exact same terminology even 11 years ago, though I guess, not much as changed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's just not true. It's a very different feeling when a girl is nice and sweet to you, even when you don't find her attractive.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >even when you don't find her attractive.
        that's actually worse

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Women are more gentle and soft, so it feels more relaxing and comforting

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There was a study conducted on baby monkeys where they offered a cold robot that provided it with food and a soft stuffed animal on a pole. You're the baby monkey.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Still, it makes me feel nice. When I try to give hugs or be emotionally intimate with my male friends, there is just this feeling of something being off.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I know, you're a baby monkey and you chose the soft stuffed animal, that's how sad your existence is

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why is it sad that hanging out with women makes me feel good?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There ya go homiemonkey
            https://www.psychologicalscience.org/publications/observer/obsonline/harlows-classic-studies-revealed-the-importance-of-maternal-contact.html

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't get how that answers my question, but thanks anyway. I have another question for you, though. Does it make you feel the same when a male and a female friend give you a hug?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you're so gay sounding

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >uh... uh... you da gay!
            Kek. If you don't wanna engage with me, just say so.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i'm not

            There ya go homiemonkey
            https://www.psychologicalscience.org/publications/observer/obsonline/harlows-classic-studies-revealed-the-importance-of-maternal-contact.html

            x4dap

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they're cynical b***hes that love to trow shit at you

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I fart in your face with the force of a thousand suns

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      women are extremely interesting, you just can't see it o_o

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so in other words men are buttholes and not to be trusted

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i still don't know how to understand men, it's actually kinda crazy
        i'll meet a dude and be like "wow he's amazing" and he's more likely to be a serial killer than a dude who i'm like "yo this guy get away from me" and he turns out to be the most helpful harmless person on the planet
        i just don't know man, i just don't know

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wish I could spend a day just being beside a woman that is out in public talking to diffrent men while I just observe.
          I could in an instant tell her which would be good for her and which aren't.
          Very easy
          While she would have opinions and stuff about ea h that probably wouldn't wouldn't true or she cant see far enough into the future.
          I really wish I could provide this to a woman who thinks men are hard to understand or have been burned before.
          Men are really easy to vet through.
          But that's me speaking as a man and a very special case of man at that.

          I could my tips would be life lasting if I could give them in the situation and actually be with her as she interacts with men without them noticing me.
          I would need to be a ghost observing then it would be perfect and super obvious which men are good.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How come yall are so frickin moronic on this? Least you're aware of it, all women process is Superficial Charm (dazzling up front, possible serial killer) whereas someone who just acts normal and doesn't put on a fake front is off-putting for not being super performative with their social larps, meanwhile they're probably decent people.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I really wish I knew. I'm sick of getting fricked up by men I deem good.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you're supposed to trust white knights and your partner

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eh not really. My female friends are actually funny and have interests similar to mine. That said, there is a natural dynamic between men and women that does play a factor. I do enjoy making girls laugh more than guys, and I generally like getting attention from females even if it isnt romantic. Thats a good thing though, thats healthy and natural. Doesnt mean Im actively trying to frick them and vice versa

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Befriend a woman
    >Inevitably fall in love with her
    >Either get friendzoned and do all the boyfriend shit for free
    >Or female pretends to love you back just to completely destroy your feeling of self worth later, women pride themselves on this shit.
    inb4 reeee incel that never talked to women, I had more female friends than male ones, and all my shit moments in life were because of women, so go frick yourself you israeli roastie.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All my female friends were fine as long as they had a boyfriend. As soon as one of them broke up, things eventually went to shit and the friendship ended

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can have female friends but only under specific circumstances. You have to have had sex with them and decided mutually a relationship was not a good idea. She can not wiener block you in anyway and if anything she should help you get pussy. You should help her get with the guys she wants to get with. Think about it if shes not a bro then how can she be your real friend.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes actually that is exactly how it works. its not "primitive" thats just how brains our wired

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Friendship in general is fake & gay. It's all transactional, and once you stop providing what they want, they'll distance themselves from you.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >transactional relationships are... le bad!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes because it means it was never a friendship/relationship/marriage/etc. to begin with.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >transactional relationships aren't relationships because of... le reasons!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're clearly either a troll or extremely low IQ. Either way, welcome to the filter. Please keep responding when I'll never see them. I know you can't resist.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >neener neener neener I can't hear you

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Wowie

    Men and women are neurologically the same. The sooner you realize this, the sooner you'll start to have a good dating life.

    When men say "why are women like...." what they are really saying is "why are well-socialized people like....?" Likewise, when women say "why are men like..." they are really saying "why are poorly socialized people like..."

    Is that clear?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Men and women are neurologically the same
      factually incorrect
      >When men say "why are women like...." what they are really saying is "why are well-socialized people like....?" Likewise, when women say "why are men like..." they are really saying "why are poorly socialized people like..."
      >Is that clear?
      the only thing that's clear is your sexist bias

      • 3 weeks ago
        Wowie

        It's factually correct. I studied psych at a top research uni. There are more neurological differences within male/female populations than between the two genders.

        >Sexist bias
        You want to debate whether women are generally socialized better than men? There's not much of an argument to have - it's just true XD

        • 3 weeks ago
          Wowie

          *sexes, sorry.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That statement doesn't mean anything you know, the average iq difference between a population can be 10 but the range inside the population is huge. When we say men and women are different we are talking about the average man and woman. You can find very different people within each gender but they are not the average person, they are outliers.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Friendships are built for trust and you being homosexual towards your friends sounds like you are the problem and not the men.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I remember telling this to my ex and she didn't believe me. After we broke up the guy she was friends with ended up admitted he had a crush on her the whole time.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i can be friends with very ugly women. but every good looking girl i know i think about naked all the time and imagine hooking up with them. straight, gay, single, married, doesn't matter.
    im not an immigrant so i don't act on those thoughts though, so i can be friends with them.
    IMMIGRANTS cant be friends with women because they have no understanding of social norms and terrible self control.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What do females have to offer as friends? Male friendships are usually based on shared interests.
    You don't play video games aside from the most surface level mobile garbage, you don't watch movies aside from the shit gets recommended to you by men, you aren't interested in anything except your vegana and if that's all you have to offer, then you're not a friend, you're a potential sex partner. That's it.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women dont treat male friends decently.if you hug them they lose their shit. Your just a cuck with a fancy title to them.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its a waste of time. women are just sort of annoying and unpleasant otherwise. their greatest value is either they provide sex or they have friends that can provide sex and they can get your foot in the door

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women are not real friends, they always demand something from you, that's why I've fricked all the female friends I've had.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this

      read OP pic again
      >Men are not nice to women they don't want something from.

      Men do not expect other people to be nice to them. When they are around age 14 or so it stops being the default. Men associate with other men they think are funny or amusing, then gradually this develops into a friendship and they finally start to do nice things for each other.

      This dynamic does not exist for women. Women are wonderful. Everyone is nice to them. Everyone will instantly socially accept them and rush to their aid if they need help, maybe not Queen b***h Stacy who smokes in the toilets, but ~95% of people. They start to expect it and view you as a bad person if you don't do them favors. Hence..

      >Men are not nice to women they don't want something from.

      This is actually an incredibly entitled attitude to have, and she is totally oblivious to it, still believing herself to be the victim. I almost believed it until I analyzed it a little.

      When was the last time she did something nice for a man? When was the last time Stacy said "ew, look at him" and she said "I don't find him disgusting, why are you such a sad horrible little person, Stacy?" I don't recall ever in my entire life a woman standing up for me when I was mistreated and socially ostracized, they never cared how horrible it is to treat someone like this and sentence them to be lonely and miserable their entire life. I don't recall women caring about the injustice and inviting me to parties and helping me socialize. Nearly every woman joined in and participated in it. Nearly every woman shows this level of hate. Then they ask "why isn't he nice"?

      This is why it is not possible to be friends with women under 35. You can be friends with them, but they will never really be friends with you. It is the same even if you are Chad, the moment you fail to meet their expectations, if you are ill or lose your job or something, in your time of need they will go "ew, how dare he treat me like this".

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they try to control women because they literally won't be with you otherwise
        we don't need 8 billion people on this planet, but for some reason men thought we did

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't we be friends and frick too? I'm never friends with ugly women, but the fact that I'm putting my penis inside of her doesn't mean I don't appreciate her as a person.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >men are not nice to women they don't want something from
    yup
    if you as a guy, befriend females, you're a homosexual. Women as just 'friends' are absolutely useless, and they contribute nothing to a man's life/progress if they're not hooking up with him.
    I'm always nice to the ones I'm interested in, but as soon as she gives me the vibes that she doesn't wanna do nothing more than just being 'friends' I subtract myself from that equation really quick with no remorse. I learned the hard way that if you as a man, stay around women who only see you as their 'friends' they're gonna use you and walk all over you and they will see absolutely nothing wrong with that.
    >be me
    >talk to woman
    >let her know I'm interested
    >Awe I'm sorry, we can only be friends
    >ghost and never talk to the c**t again

    as easy as that. women nowadays have extremely ridiculous standards, and a social media fueled hyper inflated ego who makes them think they're more than they really are. They want you to have so many qualities, and all they have to offer most of the time is another man's kid, and a high mileage pussy.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    im gonna be honest, the majority of women ive met are too normie to be friends with. their hobbies are basically consuming whatever is popular like kpop, FOTM shonen, romance novels, taylor swift, boy bands, fortnite, valorant, etc. but theres no passion in those hobbies its just all surface level and thus have nothing interesting to say. i tried to be friends with someone like this and she was nice but she was just really boring. the only person i could consider a female friend was my professor. she was smart, had lots of life experience, and was old enough that im not attracted to her.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, women and men cannot be friends, simple as.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I dont regard women as trustworthy confidants.m, butni can and do have more casual conversations with them. I can be acquainted with women, most of whom I am not attracted to, but I dont want them as close friends

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Being friends with women is difficult
    They often do not understand the boundary between friend/boyfriend, except when it comes to access to sex. By that I mean, they expect male friends to act like boyfriends, but without the sex. They expect you to drop everything when they need you, and will get mad if you don't. But that will never go both ways. They will never be ready to drop everything to help you. In fact, they don't expect you to need their help at all, ever. Women cannot keep secrets. So you cannot confide in them. Everything you tell them, they tell to their best friend, and probably their girls group chat they all have. So you can't even talk to them.
    And, like the OP image says, it is almost impossible to not end up wanting to frick them.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Personally I like my female friends the same as guy friends. Now sure, I find most of them attractive and would be open to dating most of them but they either have bfs or are just uninterested and Im fine with that. I dont feel I have ulterior motives, I enjoy their company as my friends and who knows, maybe something more could develop but whether it does or not doesnt matter. What kind of creepy mf cant just be friends with girls without making it all about trying to frick them?

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women are boring and annoying and not worth talking to for any reason besides sex.

    Any aspect of "friendship" a woman could offer could be done 10 times better by a male friend.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But male friends arent cute.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Women are boring and annoying and not worth talking to for any reason besides sex.
      Not true. They are smol and cute and I want to give them hugs. Also, they have their own lives, interest, feelings, and opinions. There is definitely stuff there for interesting conversations. One benefit of having a female friend over a girlfriend is the fact that you can be more emotionally open with her, because you don't have to worry about her losing feelings for you.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Either a woman wrote this or a fsggot did. Either way, opinion discarded.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It more has to do with the fact women are only good for fricking so an ugly prostitute is of no use.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What even is "hookup"? Genuinely, I don't know what it means.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be gay
    >Get female friend
    >"So what's being gay like?"
    >"What's it like to have gay sex?"
    >"Do you bottom?"
    >"Are you ever curious about sex with a woman? Cuz we could try"
    >"You should let me peg you"

    JFC FRICK OFF. I'm not attracted to you roasties.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe I should pretend to be gay too

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In my 25 years of living I've never met a woman who worth talking to.
    I'm physically attracted to women.

    Men who have guy friends are more manly than men who have women friends. Notice how homosexuals are always hanging around women and copy their mannerisms.

    Women love gay men who are flamboyant and
    emulate their selfish personalities.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Wowie

      If being "manly" doesn't get you laid or a ton of money, what is the point? Focus on outcomes, not process.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Foids who so call hate men it's interesting that you visit and hang around an all male board that hates women and their shallowness.

    Just goes to show women are so selfish and attention starved while also wanting chad that they'll subconsciously go to where the ugly men are because they aren't even satisfied with us being alone. They still need the attention from us.

    Subconsciously foids are hoping by coming here that they can get a 6/10 normie-chadish-lite white man who's got the stereotypical skinny physique and wavy hair to sweep you off your feet on discord and edate you so you can have a little crumb of attention.

    They are almost like sharks. If they sense a single small space that's male only, they'll rush to it like blood only to feed their selfish carnal desires, not because they actually care about men or starting a family or long term relationship with the sub 5 men here.

    Foids are pathetic.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.
    My GF and I used to play an MMO together and we had a lot of friends in common from our guild. Some of those friends used to talk to her A LOT more than they talked to me, but it didn't bother me because she always showed their conversations to me.
    One guy in particular used to message her EVERY SINGLE DAY nonstop. It was pretty clear to me that this guy was in love with her, so I told her that I wanted her to stop talking to him and she told me I was crazy and that he was like a little brother to her. I mean, he used to tell her literally everything about his life and she thought that it was just because he enjoyed talking to her.
    So, I came up with a plan and told her to be a little flirty with that guy to see how he would respond (while I watched over their conversation). I knew he'd confess his feelings on the first opportunity she gave him. She did just that and in the moment she told him that she LIKED HIM, he opened up and told her how much he loved her and how he'd been waiting for this for the longest time. She literally only told him that she liked him and he folded like that.
    After that, I told her to do the same thing with all the other guys that talked to her. The same thing happened with literally all of them. Not a single one rejected her (small) advances. They all knew we were in a relationship but they didn't care, as soon as she opened up even slightly, they went full on flirt/love confession.
    That actually made her really sad and disappointed because she unironically believed those guys saw her as just another friend. She stopped playing that game because of this incident and hasn't talked to any of them since, so obviously I had to quit the game as well.
    That was a huge red pill moment for her, she really was that naive and believed those guys saw her as just another friend.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >my gf
      okay you can kys now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's hard for me to believe is that women are this stupid. I choose to believe she knew, they all know, they always know. She just lost her plausible deniability after this and had to cut off her orbiters to appease you, which is a good sign that she actually likes you I guess.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >She just lost her plausible deniability after this and had to cut off her orbiters to appease you
        Oh that's definitely possible. The only reason I believe her is cause she's also another huge nerd who was sheltered from the world by her family and spent her youth playing videogames. She's pretty naive when it comes to stuff like this so I choose to believe her.
        Either way it doesn't really matter, I proved my point to her and she accepted it which is good enough I guess.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Your girlfriend is moronic and so are you.
      She never thought that the only reason YOU like her, is because you're fricking her.
      She wasn't redpilled enough, since she didn't follow that line of thought sufficiently.
      If she wasn't fricking you, you'd either be ignoring her or be just like those pathetic men in the guild.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      LMAO she knew, women are prostitutes.

      This is why I'll NEVER trust women

      They NEVER commit. Even hollywood chads like dicaprio if he was married or chriss pratt who got divorced and is literally a multimillionaire chad.

      You can be rich, chad/chad lite and STILL not be good enough.

      The taliban have it right. Women don't deserve rights. They deserve to be locked up and hidden because they are mentally children.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        but we're so socially apt and interesting

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can be friends with females I do not want to have coitus with

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