Islam - Special privileges give to prophet Muhammad's sex life

This verse from Al-Ahzab gives Muhammad special privileges including being able to marry cousins and those 'his right hand possesses'

Mike Stoklasa's Worst Fan Shirt $21.68

POSIWID: The Purpose Of A System Is What It Does Shirt $21.68

Mike Stoklasa's Worst Fan Shirt $21.68

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was like the Andrew Tate of the 7th century

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imo, Prophet Muhammad makes Andrew Tate look nice in comparison; however, the collective Stockholm syndrome Muslims suffer from they see Muhammad as the God Emperor of man...

      Kinda why I like posting these to pull the curtain of 'mystique' to reveal Islam is 'humbug'

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The verse is primarily about leading by example. The verses imposes five restrictions:
        1. The Prophet SAAW has to lead by example and pay dowers immediately.
        2. Bondwomen of the Prophet SAAW are as his wives and are Mothers of the Believers.
        3. Only the women of his extended family who emigrated - who put loyalty to Islam above loyalty to their family - were lawful to him.
        4. Believing women could offer themselves to the Prophet SAAW, whereupon he married those women to other men without a dower. See https://sunnah.com/nasai:3200
        5. The Prophet SAAW can marry only Muslims. Marrying Christians and israelites are prohibited for him.
        Overall, this puts obligations only on the Prophet SAAW that are only optional (but recommended) for other Muslims.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Also, first cousin marriage can lead to severe detrimental birth defects which you would think God or a 'prophet' would know about.

          Yeah, it might have been common at the time, but Muhammad is supposed to be a Prophet of Allah... This puts Muhammad under way more scrutiny as a historical figure.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It doesn't. Clan-specific disorders arise as long as you continue marrying within a common pool over many generations. Beneficial traits are also concentrated, offering a survival advantage. Both can also happen at the same time. A famous case of a double-edged sword is sickle cell anemia.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wrong. First cousin offspring have 2x the rate of birth defects. Anything closer than 3rd cousins causes problems.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because clans no longer exist. If you breed within a closed pool of 1,000 people or 10,000 people, you would have the same problem. That's why israelites continue to have certain diseases unique to themselves despite not breeding directly with siblings or first cousins.
            If clans were to exist and you bred within a village or a collection of villages, these issues would once again arise. Only in a society where authority belongs absolutely to the state can this institution even be sustained.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Muhammad was literally a slave trader and he ruined Khadijas business through incompetence. He forced his Muhajir companions after moving to Medina to give up their professions and become looters and raiders. He claimed a fifth of the loot for himself and Allah, because he claimed first choice goes to him. The guy is literally a moron and those believe him are no better than him.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At least Tate doesn't frick kids, allegedly

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you hold shift down while using the line function in pain it will make it straight

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      paint*

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cheers! Will do

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Black person cousin marriage and having female slaves is allowed for all muslims and even if God gave Prophet pub anything special so be it. The leader can't have anything special nooooooo!

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Which part of this do you object to?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What parts?

      Sex slavery
      Incest
      The fact a book, supposedly from God, conveniently gives special privileges to someone who calls themselves a prophet?

      A prophet who used his position to, according to the Hadith, have sex with a child?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >gives special privileges to someone who calls themselves a prophe

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The first is not specific to the Prophet SAAW. It's permissible to have relations with concubines if they have assented, usually after a public declaration. Most women desire the more honorable position of a concubine to that of a simple maid. Why is a woman to be denied this position if they seek it?
        It doesn't allow incest. Ironically, it's outlawing the israeli practice of marrying nieces and nephews. It is allowing for cousin marriage as the local Christian prohibition of marriage up to seven grandfathers was destroying clan ties, creating a gap for a despotic state to regulate local and personal affairs.
        There are no privileges. Only obligations. There are no rights. Only responsibilities.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Most women desire the more honorable position of a concubine
          lol. Fantasy time now. Do muslims actually believe this BS?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Would you rather marry the queen or clean the stables?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I would rather clean the stables if the queen I had to marry was a 50 + year old that is obsessed with sex. Easy Choice.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Then that is specific to you. Most would choose differently. Most have been proven to choose differently. Modern women routinely enter into relationships with far older men having far fewer rights being accorded to them than that of a traditional marriage or concubinage, even when younger mates are readily available.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Most would choose differently.
            Not most. Just because you would marry sex obsessed muhammad doesn't mean everyone but me wants to.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Your arguments run contrary to historical evidence. Most women would have gladly offered themselves to the king if given the choice. Medieval kings were known to have many mistresses, once again despite having none of the privileges wives or concubines are accorded in Islam.

            Slavery is bad, and humans are not property. Putting women in a situation where they can be property used for sex or a maid isn't exactly stellar for human rights

            Ah, there it is, drawing attention to Judaism or Christianity. Largely declining and secularising ideologies that fewer and fewer see their religious texts as 'the book with which there is no doubt."

            The fact that earlier texts, that Islam ripped off, might have worse verses does not vindicate the Islamic texts allowance of such issues.

            According to a quick google search cousin marriage can increase the risk of birth defects from 3% to 6%

            It's a negative that a book supposedly ordained by God fails to spot.

            It's prohibited to enslave free people and peasants, and it is prohibited to call anyone a slave, as we are all slaves of Allah SWT. The goal of slavery in Islam is to integrate the warrior elite of the conquered society into Islamic society.
            >Your slaves are your brothers. Allah has placed them in your hand, and he who has his brother under him should feed him with the same food he eats and clothe him with the same clothes he wears, and do not burden him beyond his capacity, and if you burden him then help him.
            What "slavery" in Islam addresses is the problem of prisoners of war. "Slaves" in Islam were the dispossessed elite of conquered societies. It is foolish to not put their worldly knowledge to good use, while it was equally foolish to let them do whatever they want without supervision. Hence, this institution was created, where Muslims would supervise their activities while they carried on with their former duties. This is why many slaves later rose to be generals, kings, and magnates.
            >cousin marriage
            As I said, common traits arise as long as you continue breeding in a closed pool. That's why we have racial and ethnic differences. Defects are telling only one side of the story.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Most women would have gladly offered themselves to the king if given the choice
            That is just cope and you have no ideal what those women would have wanted.

            > wives or concubines are accorded in Islam.
            you claimed you have a wife(press x to doubt). Ask your totally real wife if she would be okay with you having a another wife. Ask her if she would be okay with another wife that is 9 years old. Let me known what your "real" wife says.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Again, this is an unrealistic scenario. No one except premodern shepherds or farmers even have the possibility of getting married at that age. Even a 18-year-old has almost no preparation for the rigors of a harmonious modern marriage. The system necessary to facilitate what you're talking about simply doesn't exist. That's why Muslim countries have the highest ages at first sexual contact, far beyond basic sexual maturity.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >. No one except premodern shepherds or farmers even have the possibility of getting married at that age.
            Not true and it doesn't really matter. If islam is true and muhammad is a true prophet then his actions and teachings should not be dismissed because we live in modern times. It's either okay to bang 9 years olds or its not.

            So don't try and weasle out of the question with your lame excuses. Ask your "wife" if she would be okay with you following the example of muhammad by marrying and banging a 9 year old.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh really? Why couldn't get supply those shepherds with 18 year old partners to increase the Muslim population? Without the need of warfare, enslavement, cousin marriages, and underage marriages?

            Ignoring all the detrimental effects that can cause a normal population?

            I mean, if you were talking about some old kingdom I could see them doing things out of ignorance...

            But a population guided by a Prophet of the one true God????

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What specific issue would be alleviated by saying that the people of the time were to be prohibited from marrying before 18?

            >I'm not a midwife or gynecologist, so I can't comment on the safety issues
            It's common knowledge to everyone but followers of muhammad apparently. You don't need to have a doctorate to know that having sex with 9 year old is not good for the 9 year old.

            It didn't cause issues for her specifically. She remained healthy and active throughout her life.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Considering the amount of hobbled(you guys drape them to hide your shame as well) I've seen, I highly doubt she was "fine".

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            She even participated in a military expedition. Mentally, she was perhaps the greatest of the first generation of Muslims in her knowledge of Islam. Her achievements go beyond merely narrating ahadith, as she was the source of preference on issues relating to the Qur'an and Sunnah that confounded prominent companions of the Prophet SAAW. Her contribution to Islam is invaluable. This is not the sign of a woman who suffered harm, but a woman who benefited from Islam, who was privileged beyond all her peers.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >She even participated in a military expedition
            lol. Ya, against other muslims.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Against other Muslims with other Muslims. She later stated that it was her greatest regret, but her motivation was ultimately justice.
            Regardless, she clearly remained physically capable.

            I listed some signs of trauma. Being raped by a 50+ year old when you are 9 years old is trauma. I know that you have to pretend otherwise but to everyone that hasn't been brainwashed its obvious.

            How is early marriage automatically trauma? By that logic, all of the women in the Bible were equally traumatized, as they followed the same customs.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >How is early marriage automatically trauma?
            Having sex with a 9 year old when the man is 50+ years old. It's not the marriage part its the rape part.

            >all of the women in the Bible were equally traumatized,
            lol. I will entertain this because I know exactly what you are going to say. What women are you taking about in the Bible?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It didn't cause issues for her specifically.
            How can you know that? Do you have a degree in history?(I'm just making fun of your previous claim, I have to write this because most muslims have no sense of humor).

            We don't know what kind of trauma Aisha went through? We just know she never had children. She was forced to be a widow the rest of her life. Her goat destroyed parts of the koran on "accident" and she lead an army against part of ummah. Not that I'm a doctor but I can see signs of trauma in her actions.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            An 18 year old will be, unless there are other health issues, be considerably more developed than a 9 year old, reducing the risks of maternity problems.

            Basically, she has a better chance of having a baby, surviving, and if she chooses have more babies.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We're talking about a time when most women died during childbirth anyway. They obviously had mechanisms of managing risks incurred during delivery. I'm guessing they usually looked for physical markers of maturity before they allowed a marriage to be consummated. Aisha RA clearly displayed these markers, otherwise she wouldn't be allowed to consummate her marriage. Remember, this was five years after she hit puberty.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I listed some signs of trauma. Being raped by a 50+ year old when you are 9 years old is trauma. I know that you have to pretend otherwise but to everyone that hasn't been brainwashed its obvious.

            This conversation has deviated from the verse being discussed. I don't have the time to discuss every possible issue you take with the Word of God. I have other responsibilities to attend to, so I must take my leave.
            My approach to Islam is focused primarily on prayer and jihad. I read the whole Qur'an every six days. Believe me when I say that there isn't a single issue in the Qur'an, and that it is indeed divine revelation. The only preserved revelation from God.
            Goodbye. May Allah SWT guide you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Run away now like a coward. Bye now little sheep.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My advice to you, don't just read the Quran, there are many books you can read.

            Open your mind and read from many perspectives! Critique is how you know an idea actually holds water...

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I read the whole Qur'an every six days
            >Believe me when I say that there isn't a single issue in the Qur'an

            Sure I'll believe an idiot who reads the same thing each week

            I feel sorry for you trying to defend a sex crazed, warmongering rapist and killer who spread his religion by the sword and died by poision
            Muhammed was not a good person and neither are Muslims who follow Muhammed teachings

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In the temple of the Gods, we say that Islam by Muhammad's teachings is the third temple of the antichrist.

            The third is Muhammad, the rapist murderer and pedophile. Their and hypocrite and the one of the 40 thieves of Aladdin.

            The second is the teachings of Yeshua, the self proclaimed Lord. Elahi!

            And the first is the teachings of Moses, the killer of the Egyptian first born. Kin killer!

            The truth is Yahovah and Ra. Ye Zeus not Jesus. And Allah hua kha. Not akbar.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Don't you me schizo

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Would you have a sex with 9 year old like muhammad?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know how that would work. Our marital customs are too different to give a proper answer. My wife is older than me and we both work. Our marriage grew out of a romantic relationship whose primary basis was our shared love of math. I can't imagine a romance with a woman that is 19, let alone 9.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's funny how muslims will never condemn pedophilia

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So you can't imagine having sex with a 9 year old like muhammad did. So unlike muhammad you cant see yourself being a pedophile. At least you're better then muhammad in that way. But I'm sure that you will make excuses for muhammad's pedophilia.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A 9 year old is not a women.
            Just because she's menstruated does not make her a woman! There is a lot that goes into puberty than menstruation her overall neurotological/physical development has to taken into consideration...

            A 9 year old's underdeveloped pelvic floor would would increase the risks of maternity issues!

            Youngest pregnancy ever recorded was a girl called Lina Marcela Medina. She got Pregnant at less than 5 years old.

            Her baby had to be delivered by a Caesarean section due to her small pelvis.

            If Aisha at the age of 9 had gotten pregnant in the 7th century what do you think would have happened to her?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not a midwife or gynecologist, so I can't comment on the safety issues. I do know that women at the time were "prepared for marriage" by a diet through which they acquired a broadened pelvis at an earlier age. If you know more than me, you can tell me about how that works. No doubt, lots of women older than nine still have these issues.
            Regardless, the custom for women at the time was betrothal prior to puberty and consummation following puberty. Her marriage did not deviate from this trend. Neither did the marriage of Mary PBUH or any of the other women of the Bible.
            At the time, there was simply no need to delay marriage. It made no sense to simply wait. The earlier one married, the better.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm not a midwife or gynecologist, so I can't comment on the safety issues
            It's common knowledge to everyone but followers of muhammad apparently. You don't need to have a doctorate to know that having sex with 9 year old is not good for the 9 year old.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >actually believe this BS?
            I think most women would rather have an equal partnership with their Husband. Where they're treated as Equals, not Cattel.

            But then again, the Quran doesn't have the best view on women

            Expert from 2:282
            "But if he who oweth the debt is of low understanding, or weak, or unable himself to dictate, then let the guardian of his interests dictate in (terms of) equity. And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not (at hand) then a man and two women, of such as ye approve as witnesses, so that if the one erreth (through forgetfulness) the other will remember."

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is specific to financial contracts in an age when women did not engage in financial matters. It's ijma that a woman can be an equal witness to a man if the woman is qualified. There are also instances in which a man's testimony is completely rejected, such as the case of a woman's virginity or pregnancy. The second most prolific narrator of ahadith is Aisha RA, meaning the witness testimony of a woman is the basis of a significant portion of our teachings.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >be an equal witness to a man if the woman is qualified. There

            Oh Really? has nothing to do with Muhammad's belief that a women are deficient in intellegence?

            "Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri:

            Once Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) of `Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."

            This was:
            Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 304
            In-book reference : Book 6, Hadith 9
            USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 1, Book 6, Hadith 301
            (deprecated numbering scheme)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He's addressing specific women who cursed frequently and were ungrateful to their husbands. The majority of women alienated from Allah SWT will indeed display these characteristics.
            He's simply stating that they are ungrateful to their husbands despite their husbands having duties both material and spiritual that exceed theirs.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            "He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence."

            Also, food that can change an underage girls bone structure? That sounds pseudo science if I'm honest.

            According to Plan International however:
            "Child, early and forced marriage and unions (CEFMU) are human rights violation that rob girls of their childhood, education and limit their possibilities for growth and stability. CEFMU also results in increased risks of violence, abuse, rape, sexual assault, early pregnancy and maternal mortality and morbidity."

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The women being addressed genuinely were less intelligent than their husbands. They weren't scholars or doctors. They were quarellous housewives shirking their duties.

            >It didn't cause issues for her specifically.
            How can you know that? Do you have a degree in history?(I'm just making fun of your previous claim, I have to write this because most muslims have no sense of humor).

            We don't know what kind of trauma Aisha went through? We just know she never had children. She was forced to be a widow the rest of her life. Her goat destroyed parts of the koran on "accident" and she lead an army against part of ummah. Not that I'm a doctor but I can see signs of trauma in her actions.

            There are thousands of narrations from her. Nowhere did she express anything except the utmost pride in Islam and happiness for being Muslim. There are no signs of trauma whatsoever.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I listed some signs of trauma. Being raped by a 50+ year old when you are 9 years old is trauma. I know that you have to pretend otherwise but to everyone that hasn't been brainwashed its obvious.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ah yes, but a man who claimed Camal's urine can cure heat stroke sounds like the authority on who is or is not intelligent.

            Well, considering Sahih Al Bukhari was compiled 200 years after Muhammad's death, iirc. What can you say is true regarding Aisha? Still Bukhari is considered authentic by the Muslim mainstream; second only to the Quran itself.

            Regarding you claim she never expressed trauma what about this expert?

            "Rifa`a divorced his wife whereupon `AbdurRahman bin Az-Zubair Al-Qurazi married her. `Aisha said that the lady (came), wearing a green veil (and complained to her (Aisha) of her husband and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating). It was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) came, `Aisha said, "I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!"

            This is a snippet from Bukhari:
            "Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 5825
            In-book reference : Book 77, Hadith 42
            USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 7, Book 72, Hadith 715
            (deprecated numbering scheme)"

            Also, why would any such narration of Aisha disparaging Islam, Muhammad, or Allah ever be recorded? If she did criticized Islam she could've face the sword :S

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            feel free to answer

            Who wrote the Quran?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Slavery is bad, and humans are not property. Putting women in a situation where they can be property used for sex or a maid isn't exactly stellar for human rights

          Ah, there it is, drawing attention to Judaism or Christianity. Largely declining and secularising ideologies that fewer and fewer see their religious texts as 'the book with which there is no doubt."

          The fact that earlier texts, that Islam ripped off, might have worse verses does not vindicate the Islamic texts allowance of such issues.

          According to a quick google search cousin marriage can increase the risk of birth defects from 3% to 6%

          It's a negative that a book supposedly ordained by God fails to spot.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yet you still follow the Talmud. Why?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >This verse from Al-Ahzab gives Muhammad special privileges
    Let's see..
    >including being able to marry cousins and those 'his right hand possesses'
    Impressive reading comprehension and knowledge.
    (Well, to be fair the English text is a mess.)
    being able to marry cousins and those 'his right hand possesses'
    These are allowed for everyone genius. lol.
    Incidentally, you messed the "special privilege" actually mentioned, which is marrying a women without paying a "dowry" if she gives herself to the prophet.
    Men have to pay a dowry, even if a symbolic one. Actually a symbolic dowry value is recommended to not be mistaken for a bride-price.
    (the word "dowry" is also potentially misleading here due to it being dominantly used in English in the context of Indian culture, which may lead to upside-down understandings here.)

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who wrote the Quran?

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Muhammad is a false prophet.

    My sister tried to frick me, a random hot chick came into my room in her underwear in hospital. A nurse tried to frick me. A random girl tried to give me a three way.

    A true prophet doesn't have sex.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imo, maybe a prophet of Slaanesh...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Islam is just Arab Paganism based around a fertility cult that was hijacked by desert raiders made of nestorian Christians and Himyarite israelites who followed moms.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In ireland we have a saying Slan lat, slan lu, slan lay, slan la. Slannesh is my aunt anon.

        We are all family in the war against hamar.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do muslim men really get 72 virgins in Paradise ?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nope. In paradise you get an option. To join a 72 virgin team to kill the Emperors enemies or to go to hell. We're all virgins in elysium.

      homosexuals are not welcome.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only virgins allowed in elysium. Anyone who falls for the sin of flesh falls prey to being prey to the desires of flesh.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly, I can't remember where that comes from.

      If I remember correctly, one of the gifts believers can get in paradise is 'purified spouses'

      But take that with a pinch of salt

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Zayd my son, your wife looks kind of hot
    >o-oh yes of course I'd love to frick your wife. Look, Allah even said it's okay!

    Literally a Jonestown tier sex cult lol

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *