Kissless dateless virgin at 27. Women act strangely towards me

I somehow ended up a kissless dateless virgin at 27, through no fault of my own, but simply because women never showed any romantic interest in me. They just look at me like I'm not a viable romantic option or like I'm some totally sexless creature. In my whole life I've not once had a female friend become flirty with me or express interest in me.

Despite this, I am allegedly a good-looking guy, I dress excellently and groom myself well, am 5'11 tall, in good shape, etc. And I have had a bunch of experiences in my life where random women acted weirdly towards me or "came on to me" in some way, and I don't know how to reconcile this with the complete lack of female interest I've had in my everyday life.

>When I was 16, a friend of mine had a crush on a foreign girl at our school, but she apparently had a crush on me and sent my friend texts about how "beautiful" I was and that she "couldn't stop dreaming of my eyes". Months later my friend told me about this, and I tried to pursue her for over a year in response, but she kept rejecting me and saying I was "attractive but she wasn't interested in dating me"

>When I was 17, I met a girl through a friend, and this girl literally asked me to be her boyfriend within 2 days, sent me nudes, and offered to have sex with me in a bush. I felt really uncomfortable and pussied out

>At 19 I met a girl at a summer camp type thing who randomly started talking to me a lot and, on the final night before we went home, we somehow ended up in bed together cuddling in our underwear, and she kept stroking my face and chest over and over and looking into my eyes. I didn't do anything in response, even though I really wanted to. The next day she sighed very deeply after she said goodbye to me, but when I asked her "what's wrong?" she said "nothing". A week later I saw on Facebook that she started dating a guy from her hometown and I felt deeply hurt and rejected

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Also at 19 I went to a house party and this really cute girl started talking to me. I thought it was going well and that she might like me, then randomly in the middle of the conversation she sighed and said something like "oh god, what am I doing..." and I felt really awkward after that like she was disgusted by me or something.

    >At university I met a girl who seemed really flirty with me and was literally about to ask her on a date when I suddenly found out she had a long-distance boyfriend in another country. I felt hurt and rejected, so only kept her as a friend. But she kept flirting with me over the years even more heavily, including at one point sending me her nudes (completely unprompted) and on another occasion straight-up offering me a blowjob.

    >Another girl once threw a house party and didn't invite me. Then on the night of the party she randomly messaged me and invited me to come. I went to her house but didn't see anybody I recognized, so felt really awkward. Then the girl came up to me and started talking to me. Then she lunged at me like she was trying to kiss me. I was really taken aback, I can't remember what I said but I left the party shortly afterwards. This same girl once told me that she "would never sleep with a virgin" so I don't know why she would have been interested in me

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Another girl started making out with me drunkenly at a party but I felt like I was doing it wrong so I stopped. But 5 minutes later I saw her making out with another guy. I felt rejected, and because I was drunk and mad I waited for the girl to walk away and then approached the guy and said some threatening words to him. I think he just awkwardly laughed at me.

    >Another girl seemed kinda flirty with me at a party, and all my friends were telling me "go for it man she's really into you", so I felt confident. 10 minutes later I was just talking with her normally, literally not even making a move on her, when she randomly started saying "look, I really like you, but I have a boyfriend so I can't do anything". I didn't even say anything in response, I felt so distraught I just stood up silently and left the party and went home. Later on she found me on Facebook and messaged me apologizing and saying she was really worried about me, which just made me feel pathetic and emasculated.

    It just doesn't make any sense to me how I ended up a kissless dateless virgin at 27 despite some of these experiences. It really feels like I came "so close, yet so far". I also don't fricking understand why female sexuality is so weird, and why girls were always rude and stand-offish to me in my everyday life, but then occasionally things like these would happen to me.

    What the frick is wrong with me and why don't women like me? I just find it impossible to understand. I'm clearly not some repulsive guy, judging by the experiences I've had, and yet I'm 27 and can't even get one single date or one kiss with a girl. It's just impossible.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      you're just scared of rejection and put way too much stock into a woman rejection. Like you gonna lose your whole life if you make a move and have to change states / cities.

      It's not that serious, half the signals you have gotten would literally be a greenlight to most guys. You are just a coward masking as a "good guy that doesn't wanna offend anyone"

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Like you gonna lose your whole life if you make a move and have to change states / cities.
        Well, it's true. Especially at school/university. I didn't want to be one of those creepy guys who women gossip about behind closed doors. I didn't want to destroy my reputation by making a move when it wasn't wanted.

        >half the signals you have gotten would literally be a greenlight to most guys. You are just a coward masking as a "good guy that doesn't wanna offend anyone"
        The way I see it, none of the signals were good enough because not one of those girls ever said - in actual WORDS - that they liked me. None of them ever said "you're really cute/hot" or "I like you" or "I want to date you". So technically I could have just been misreading all of their signals. There was no way to definitively know FOR CERTAIN that any of them were interested in me.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I didn't want to be one of those creepy guys who women gossip about behind closed doors.

          What a fail bro - a creepy guy that gets this treatment is someone that literally doesn't leave them alone + is autistic. If girls actually walk up and talk to you - this is not you and you will not get this treatment.

          > None of them ever said "you're really cute/hot"
          Only literal model tier guys get that kinda treatment from remotely pretty women , if these girls are actually objectively cute and hot by societies standards - they HAVE to test you just to make sure you are actually a man and not a boy still.

          If I was you - you need to get abundance mentality and not be afraid of saying the wrong thing and losing a girl , always say to yourself "there will be more" and that's objectively true especially with all the shots you've had - if these stories were true then there absolutely will be more chances. And you can increase that rate by being more social - they will come to you in the same way they did in the past.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >If girls actually walk up and talk to you - this is not you and you will not get this treatment.
            Girls generally don't walk up and talk to me though. 99% of the time women look straight through me like I'm invisible.

            Like I don't know how to explain the fact that all the experiences I listed in my OP were only a tiny fraction of my overall interactions with women. And a lot of these same girls who seemed like they were "coming on to me" would barely talk to me afterwards.

            Idk what the frick is wrong with me but it feels like women view me as physically attractive but as soon as they interact with me there's something on a subconscious level that repulses them and they immediately lose interest.

            There's no other way to explain some of the scenarios I have found myself in.

            >> None of them ever said "you're really cute/hot"
            >Only literal model tier guys get that kinda treatment from remotely pretty women
            I did once have a woman straight-up tell me that I was "sexy". It was a really strange experience. We were at a bar with some mutual friends. I only knew this girl vaguely. At one point in the conversation she started complaining about how she hadn't had sex in a long time. I responded something like "well, it could be worse, I haven't had sex ever" and she was really shocked and started telling me how I was "sexy" and "too hot to be a virgin". It was really fricking strange, I have never once heard of a girl saying things like that to a guy, and it made me suspicious of her like she was making fun of me or something. My friends kept telling me I should make a move on her for months after but idk I felt really weird about it.

            The fact that you can write all this whining is written over your face. I don't know what it is, but women could see, smell, sense how pathetic I was. The only girls I fricked at 30yo were so damaged they couldn't tell, but I avoided those kinds because I didn't want to end up with them permanently. I finally gave in, and honestly sex isn't amazing life changing experience, it's just jerking off into someone's holes. Yeah, that good stuff is having pussy grip your dick head while you cum, you can't get that even with the fappenator 3000, but it's nothing to crawl thru glass over.
            Anyway, my point is women can sense your thirst like they're snakes tasting the air with thermal cameras. You're just cold meat like everyone else, and only when you can stop listing and fantasizing about fricking every woman you meet can you have a chance of showing up.

            >and honestly sex isn't amazing life changing experience, it's just jerking off into someone's holes.
            I do not want casual hookups. I'm completely uninterested in that. I want to have an actual relationship.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >And a lot of these same girls who seemed like they were "coming on to me" would barely talk to me afterwards.
            >Idk what the frick is wrong with me but it feels like women view me as physically attractive but as soon as they interact with me there's something on a subconscious level that repulses them and they immediately lose interest.

            This is modern women bro - the whole "I'm gonna have a nice friendship and get close to her" era is dead - you have to have to work at lightspeed or she assumes you are stringing her along or playing games and she just wanna smash. Basically when she escalates - you're supposed to escalate then and there and be ready to bang within the week.

            You woulda done fine in ancient times - but with modern prostitutes its a different ballgame. You gotta keep up or you'll get left behind. When she offers to hang - she's expecting you to escalate , jokingly offers a BJ - she's letting you know she's sexually available, etc.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You sound like a massive c**t. Please leave my thread, I don't require any more "advice" from the likes of you.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            found the problem , homosexual thinks the world is his enemy

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, but "men" like you are definitely my enemy.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            For the record , I don't hook up either and despise this shit too but I'm not naive enough to not recognize the game for what it is. All I did was simply tell you what it takes and tbh nothing even that crazy - but if you wanna keep living in a fairytale - go right ahead.

            What you want is in church if anywhere at all , but

            My brother in the Arcane divert your sight from the wenches for that is not our purpose in the cosmos. Flesh will not satisfy you, only wisdom will. Ensure I willl attend you reaching wizard state in three years. For now I bid you farewell

            wizard poster is unironically the purest person here and was your shot at escaping this mental hell you put yourself in if you only knew...

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >What you want is in church if anywhere at all
            I'm not a Christian, nor would I ever consider becoming one.

            Is this larp? im not sure, but you seem decent as frick.
            >feels uncomfortable with unsolicited nude pics
            >feels uncomfortable with being offered a bj because you just met the girl
            >realizes the girl hes making out with is drunk and stops
            >uninterested in casual hookups and wants something meaningful
            >doesnt like it when other men trash women
            Do you have any hobbies? Go out often? Many women would be lucky to have you these days

            >Is this larp?
            No. For additional context, I have diagnosed aspergers syndrome, which probably explains many of my behaviors.

            >Do you have any hobbies? Go out often?
            I used to. At university, I did a lot of things. I did a lot of acting/theatre stuff. Wrote for a student newspaper and also for a student music magazine. Used to play soccer on the weekends. Was part of the debating club and was pretty good at it. And yeah I was very socially active, active in several clubs and going to social events and parties frequently. But romance just never happened for me. No girl ever wanted to date me. No girl ever wanted to kiss me. I was just invisible to them. Meanwhile my guy friends who looked worse than me, dressed worse than me, didn't take care of themselves, were shorter, etc, got dates and GFs with ease. None of it makes any sense.

            These days, I don't do very much, because I feel very beaten down by life and like this world just doesn't accept me. I feel like things would be different if women had treated me better over the years.

            >Many women would be lucky to have you these days
            But everybody on /adv/, and also on Reddit threads I have made, has always called me "mentally ill" "an butthole" "full of himself" "delusional", even "schizophrenic". There must be something wrong with me.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >"mentally ill" "an butthole" "full of himself" "delusional", even "schizophrenic"
            No that's the Reddit user's who are all of those things, you're above them and they're seething and lashing out like stupid herd animals over it.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is this larp? im not sure, but you seem decent as frick.
      >feels uncomfortable with unsolicited nude pics
      >feels uncomfortable with being offered a bj because you just met the girl
      >realizes the girl hes making out with is drunk and stops
      >uninterested in casual hookups and wants something meaningful
      >doesnt like it when other men trash women
      Do you have any hobbies? Go out often? Many women would be lucky to have you these days

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Many women would be lucky to have you these days

        Not OP.
        A minority of women. "Many" women say they want this but in reality, would walk all over this type of person because he lacks the edge to make a move, the other poster brought up one really good point: OP desperately needs words of confirmation , most girls will never outright say they like you , they insist on leaving tiny clues as their modus operandi.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >A minority of women. "Many" women say they want this
          Frick right

          >What you want is in church if anywhere at all
          I'm not a Christian, nor would I ever consider becoming one.

          [...]
          >Is this larp?
          No. For additional context, I have diagnosed aspergers syndrome, which probably explains many of my behaviors.

          >Do you have any hobbies? Go out often?
          I used to. At university, I did a lot of things. I did a lot of acting/theatre stuff. Wrote for a student newspaper and also for a student music magazine. Used to play soccer on the weekends. Was part of the debating club and was pretty good at it. And yeah I was very socially active, active in several clubs and going to social events and parties frequently. But romance just never happened for me. No girl ever wanted to date me. No girl ever wanted to kiss me. I was just invisible to them. Meanwhile my guy friends who looked worse than me, dressed worse than me, didn't take care of themselves, were shorter, etc, got dates and GFs with ease. None of it makes any sense.

          These days, I don't do very much, because I feel very beaten down by life and like this world just doesn't accept me. I feel like things would be different if women had treated me better over the years.

          >Many women would be lucky to have you these days
          But everybody on /adv/, and also on Reddit threads I have made, has always called me "mentally ill" "an butthole" "full of himself" "delusional", even "schizophrenic". There must be something wrong with me.

          >beaten down in life, the world doesnt accept me
          why? because you never dated? you know you dont essentially need a female to survive, right? why would you let your life quality drop just because you cant date normies? you should go out there and live your life as much as you can and not rot in your bed thinking whered you go wrong
          date your age, maybe try older women if youre looking for mental maturity. not all of them will be up your alley but youre not the only person in the world thinking that somethings wrong with them
          Also
          >"men like you are my enemy"
          >"muh uglier friends dated and i couldnt. EVERYTHING would be different if i had a gf"
          lol

          >It isn't my fault if no woman has ever shown romantic interest in me.
          First of all, there's a difference between a woman having a romantic interest in you and her actually showing it. Secondly, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE you moron. From your OP alone:
          >I felt really uncomfortable and pussied out
          Ok, so how was this not your fault? Whose fault was it then?
          >we somehow ended up in bed together cuddling in our underwear, and she kept stroking my face and chest over and over and looking into my eyes. I didn't do anything in response, even though I really wanted to. The next day she sighed very deeply after she said goodbye to me, but when I asked her "what's wrong?" she said "nothing".
          So you have a girl in her underwear stroking your face and chest and your homosexual ass doesn't even kiss her. Whose fault was that then?
          > I felt deeply hurt and rejected
          Which takes some nerve on your part because you're the one who rejected HER. What do you think she was sighing about you fricking moron? You made it so that poor girl felt humiliated as well as rejected.

          Chances are OPs a closeted homosexual

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >why? because you never dated?
            Not just that, but because of a variety of reasons. My life just didn't turn out how I wanted it to. I also socially isolated myself post-university to the point that I found out that many people erroneously believe I am dead. I'm not even joking about that. I had an old friend contact me a few weeks ago really upset because he had heard a rumor I'd killed myself. I don't even know how that happened.

            >you know you dont essentially need a female to survive, right?
            Of course, but I still want partnership. And when you see 99% of people being able to date and find GFs/BFs just fine, I wonder what the frick is wrong with me? In my friend groups at school and uni I was the only person (of either gender) that I knew who was kissless and dateless. I swear, almost nobody else in the world is in my position. I don't even relate to "incels" because they all hate women and are probably closeted homosexuals. I, on the other hand, am a real and genuine guy, who just has never had any luck with women.

            >date your age, maybe try older women if youre looking for mental maturity.
            I do find plenty of older women attractive, but I doubt they'd be interested in me. I'd ideally like to find a woman my own age though.

            >Chances are OPs a closeted homosexual
            Why do you say that?

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The fact that you can write all this whining is written over your face. I don't know what it is, but women could see, smell, sense how pathetic I was. The only girls I fricked at 30yo were so damaged they couldn't tell, but I avoided those kinds because I didn't want to end up with them permanently. I finally gave in, and honestly sex isn't amazing life changing experience, it's just jerking off into someone's holes. Yeah, that good stuff is having pussy grip your dick head while you cum, you can't get that even with the fappenator 3000, but it's nothing to crawl thru glass over.
    Anyway, my point is women can sense your thirst like they're snakes tasting the air with thermal cameras. You're just cold meat like everyone else, and only when you can stop listing and fantasizing about fricking every woman you meet can you have a chance of showing up.

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    My brother in the Arcane divert your sight from the wenches for that is not our purpose in the cosmos. Flesh will not satisfy you, only wisdom will. Ensure I willl attend you reaching wizard state in three years. For now I bid you farewell

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frick off homosexual, you're nothing like me. Don't talk to me again.

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >through no fault of my own,
    kek
    Your own post details perfectly well why it is your fault.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Elaborate.

      It isn't my fault if no woman has ever shown romantic interest in me.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It isn't my fault if no woman has ever shown romantic interest in me.
        First of all, there's a difference between a woman having a romantic interest in you and her actually showing it. Secondly, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE you moron. From your OP alone:
        >I felt really uncomfortable and pussied out
        Ok, so how was this not your fault? Whose fault was it then?
        >we somehow ended up in bed together cuddling in our underwear, and she kept stroking my face and chest over and over and looking into my eyes. I didn't do anything in response, even though I really wanted to. The next day she sighed very deeply after she said goodbye to me, but when I asked her "what's wrong?" she said "nothing".
        So you have a girl in her underwear stroking your face and chest and your homosexual ass doesn't even kiss her. Whose fault was that then?
        > I felt deeply hurt and rejected
        Which takes some nerve on your part because you're the one who rejected HER. What do you think she was sighing about you fricking moron? You made it so that poor girl felt humiliated as well as rejected.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >So you have a girl in her underwear stroking your face and chest and your homosexual ass doesn't even kiss her. Whose fault was that then?
          This one was not my fault. I WANTED to kiss her. I really liked that girl. I had spent a few days talking to her at that point, and I just could not figure out if she liked me romantically or not. She would get physically close to me on random occasions but she never, at any point, ever actually SAID she liked me. She never even flirted with me. She never said anything which implied she viewed me as anything other than a friend. Then suddenly one night she's leaning her back on me and asking me to stroke her hair. And then on the final night, the things I wrote in OP happened. BUT AT NO POINT DID SHE EVER ACTUALLY SAY SHE LIKED ME!

          >Which takes some nerve on your part because you're the one who rejected HER. What do you think she was sighing about you fricking moron? You made it so that poor girl felt humiliated as well as rejected.
          Well that's stupid, she shouldn't have felt rejected, because I really liked her. Not only was she physically beautiful to me, I also felt like I connected with her on an emotional level (even in the short time I knew her) and I really enjoyed our conversations.

          She even somehow guessed that I had aspergers syndrome. We were talking once and she just asked me if I had it. I felt really embarrassed, because I'm usually ashamed of my mental affliction, and I thought she would be repulsed because of it. But she didn't care. I thought, because she knew this about me, she would be more understanding about my shyness. But I guess she wasn't.

          I mean, just because I didn't kiss her doesn't mean I wasn't physically close to her. I still slept next to her the whole night, with her in my arms. And I remember in the morning, before I left, we even held hands for a while. Why would she think I "rejected her" when I did all of this? A guy who didn't like her wouldn't be so happy to be that close to her.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >BUT AT NO POINT DID SHE EVER ACTUALLY SAY SHE LIKED ME!
            Does she really have to you fricking sperg? Have you not ever heard the phrase "actions speak louder than words"?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Does she really have to you fricking sperg?
            Well, if you like a guy, shouldn't you at least say SOMETHING to indicate that you like them?

            She never even said she thought I was attractive or anything. I don't even remember her complimenting me. It was just us talking like friends and then poof one day she's suddenly asking me to stroke her hair, caressing my face and leaning in close to me. What the hell does all that even mean? I just don't understand women.

            >Have you not ever heard the phrase "actions speak louder than words"?
            But actions can be misinterpreted, whereas clear and precise words cannot. What if I got it all wrong and she never liked me and was just cuddling with me platonically or something? If she just said something like "you're cute" then maybe I would have got the message.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're beyond help. Thanks for wasting everyone's time.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            How am I "beyond help"?

            I seriously don't understand what you expect me to do.

            Even if I read her signals correctly, what is supposed to be my next course of action? Just grab her face and start kissing? That would come off way too aggressive. And I don't even know HOW to kiss. I don't know how to move my lips. I don't know what to do with my tongue. I don't know how long to do it for. I just don't know anything.

            It's all just too hard for me. I feel like a part of my brain is missing, leaving me forever incapable of forming romantic relationships.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            We aré similar, OP. Never listen to any advice from anyone. Read all the replies on this thread AND ignore all of them. Only you know the truth. The world Is too primitive for us. We aré from the future. Let nobody tell you what you aré supposed to do or feel. The world Is fricked AND has always been, It Is not your falta. We came here to suffer, not to find love. Every relationships Is Fake, nobody loves each other. The Highest form of love cannot be seen anywhere on earth AND has never been seen In thousands of years. Our love Is diferent than anything we have ever seen

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You are nothing like me. Go frick yourself.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            True, your Attitude Made me realize we aré not the same

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP, just man up, nobody will give anything in life you gotta work for it and take it instead of overthinking.
    Just try and if she say no or calls you a creep just leave and try the next time something different (just respect if she say "no" its "no" and thats it)

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