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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so are they not importing energy from mexico anymore?
    pre-solar wave, the figure was ~30% of california's usage was supplied by mexico

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Top of the graph shows imports. They are a net importer but they also export tons during the day.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its fricking pathetic we rely on any foreign nation for our power. 3rd world shit. Theyre trying to do that with other industries. Have the beaners put in the chemicals or make the fake meat and sell it here.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You import from up here in BC too

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How big are the farms?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tiny.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Show pics.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          All good found one that is 10kms

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Show pics.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Did they place those at orions belt coordinates?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not sure. Kind of looks like it from the ground.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I can smell the flamers from here. That’s what they call the 130birds set ablaze, every single day, per plant… and that’s just the ones they are allowed to record
            >ooooh, so green…

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2965070/amp/Solar-farm-sets-130-birds-FIRE-Extreme-glow-power-plant-ignites-creatures-mid-air-tests.html

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Those boondoggles went bankrupt IIRC.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Where is this? Is that useable farm land under it? Ironic the mentally ill left and boomers are ok with this destruction of the environment.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All good found one that is 10kms

            Giant lakes of poison blocking out the sun.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >solar panels
            >poison
            Ahahahahhaa the new carbon crime family spin.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Chang you're a moron.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >muh dick

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they could have been 100% nuke for decades

    yawn

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nuclear would require batteries and slave labor.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        your brain doesnt work

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You don't know how nuclear or grids work.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i work in ops at a nuclear power plant.

            >muh slave labor
            you're brain dead

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Uranium is mined by child slaves in Africa.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            but lithium mines for batteries are fine im sure

            brain dead

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lithium is mined in Australia, not Africa.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            so is uranium clearly. even more in canada, etc.

            30% of lithium is mined in chile.... im sure its awesome there for them

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Chile isn't a total shithole though.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're fricking moronic, Canada exports loads of uranium.
            Cost of fuel isn't even a major factor for the price of nuclear power, and the cost of uranium is a small fraction of the price of fuel.

            Nuclear = flat power output
            grid demand = fluctuating
            batteries fix this problem of nuclear

            Or you know, dams, like Ontario has been doing for decades.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nuclear does not require any batteries whatsoever... did you graduate 4th grade?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nuclear = flat power output
          grid demand = fluctuating
          batteries fix this problem of nuclear

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Or just don't be a b***h and allow some gas on the system

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Or just don't be a b***h and allow some gas on the system
            So nuclear isn't the solution. Got it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            only 90% of the solution.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yep something like that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Solar can be 100% thanks to batteries.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There’s not enough lithium to maintain battery supplies

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's been fine so far, which is pretty much the way forward for all other energy sources. Thing is, if we run out of lithium then we'll just learn to recycle it better, prices will go up, and the world will keep turning just fine.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think you should own a lawnmower instead of a computer, you might be of use to someone then.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You literally do not have two neurons to rub against one another

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Batteries appear out of thin air, and mining trucks are powered using solar power

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry bro, not how the world works. The carbon criminals are done for.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Solar has shitter lifecycle CO2 emission compared to hydro/nuclear. You're promoting more CO2 emissions for literally no benefit, because you are moronic (or a shill)

            "Green" morons can cry all they want but the real world is turning to nuclear as it is objectively the best clean source of power. Even Canada (esp ontario), as moronic and doomed as it is, is heavily investing in it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >(or a shill)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If that were true China's CO2 emissions should be skyrocketing. But they're leveling off.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because they've been aggressively replacing coal. Replacing coal with anything else will produce much less CO2

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            funny how you're talking about china
            they had recently spilled a massive oil leak on the south chinese sea purposely
            you should be worried more about this kind of shit than carbon
            or maybe in your non existent brain oil is good for the fish and the sea plankton which allows you to breath

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Checked. Just remember you’re arguing with a 32+PBTID israelite shill/ bot….
            >co2 is a meme, it’s plant food. It’s a classic bait and switch for certain ~~*groups*~~ to siphon money and gain control while real pollution is ignored and wild lands continue to be destroyed at an increasing rate

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Checked. Just remember you’re arguing with a 32+PBTID israelite shill/ bot….
            >co2 is a meme, it’s plant food. It’s a classic bait and switch for certain ~~*groups*~~ to siphon money and gain control while real pollution is ignored and wild lands continue to be destroyed at an increasing rate

            I see you've been beaten back and now grasping at straws. The carbon cronies can't win in the market nor on the forums.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Probably because they’re working on building a stock of thorium salt reactors

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nuclear can be 100% with far fewer batteries, that's the point you moron. Literally just look at the fricking area difference.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Or, just don't be a b***h and use HEU like naval reactors.
            >noooo you can't just throttle up and down a nuclear reactor on a moments notice
            hahaha you can if you're not a b***h

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            heat cycles are the bane of any sophisticated system
            what you are suggesting is periods of extreme heat followed by periods middling heat and back again
            this would not scale

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >doesn't consider building out more nuclear to exceed peak consumption needs
            You are literally moronic

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can't quickly spin up or spin down nuclear.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the word you are looking for is base load

            google peaking power plant

            this stuff is decades old. its not hard to manage grid demand.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, it's figured out with batteries.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            its been "figured out" for decades all over the world.

            grid load management is not new.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Name a 100% nuclear powered grid.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            France is at 70% nuclear. any country can go very close to 100% if they simply build the base capacity. again you will need peaker power plants as i show here

            zero carbon could have been done for decades

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And yet they're disassembling it and reducing it to 50%. Turns out, nuclear is not the solution.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >And yet they're disassembling it and reducing it to 50%.

            That's because Hollande, a patented moron, signed a coalition agreement with the Greens (even bigger morons) to secure a political alliance.

            There was nothing fundamentally wrong with nuclear in France. Those absolute fricking imbeciles cancelled experimental research reactors that would be even cleaner and re-use previous fuel, because greens simply hate the word "nuclear".

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            thats a loss for the environment as always.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A loss for the environment, a gain for DEIversity.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ffs

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Let's produce billions of batteries requiring cobalt partially mined by children in DRC, where all but 2 major mines are owned by chinese
            I for one, favor wind turbines built using steel produced by coal-powered foundries in China, transported by diesel-fueled boats through the oceans, then brought to location by large diesel-fueled trucks

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Chinese steel sucks

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Demons, lads, they cant go a minute without twisting the truth

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            France is the first Muslim country to have nukes. Allahu Akbar

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Holy fricking shit you are moronic!!! hahahha

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can see for yourself in the OP image. Demand fluctuates, nuclear stays the same.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How in the frick do you think nuclear creates constant output?! The whole issue with nuclear is how to fricking limit its output so it doesn't melt down. Sorry for getting so excited, I didn't expect to meet a mongoloid in the wild today

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, that's the point. It can't adjust to the grid. So nuclear powered society would need batteries.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You don't need batteries, just a power source that can adjust rapidly.

            A mix of hydro (if you have that in your country) and natural gas works.
            Both can be controlled rapidly to adjust to demand changes.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            if this poster had a brain he'd know nat gas plants ramp up and down to manage grid load (all over the world)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's what batteries are. A power source that can adjust rapidly.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm gonna help you out here bud. Batteries cannot produce energy they store it. They are volatile stores of energy unlike fossil fuels or nuclear fuel meaning they lose energy doing nothing. This means per unit of energy produced, a significant portion of that will go into recharging batteries even if they are not in active use, meaning they CONSUME energy. Their energy density is abysmal, meaning the amount of space and material you need to store the same unit of electrical energy is mere fractions of what you get in hydrocarbons and nuclear fuel. The electric grid does not have storage built into it for all of these reasons. We just produce about 133% of projected peak demand in order to buffer power demand fluctuations. It takes minutes to increase the consumption of hydrocarbons or nuclear fuel in order to meet this demand if need be. Solar and wind cannot do this no matter hard you drool on your phone screen. I don't care how pretty your crayon drawing is of planet earth on wind and solar, it has one major problem: IT DOESNT WORK. To just address your confusion with nuclear and constant output, nuclear doesn't produce constant output. It produces exponentially compounding output to the point it will melt a hole through the surface of the planet unless you go through great pains to keep the amount of heat generated down. This typically requires cooling systems that operate at 25 times atmospheric pressure, and constantly have to be monitored by people minutely articulating reactor enthalpy by commanding giant machines to insert and remove graphite control rods to moderate the velocity of neutrons in the reactor core. TLDR wind, solar, and "batteries" are fricking beta onions boy shit and nuclear is a God

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And yet, we use batteries for laptops, phones, and cars.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Explain to me how you are going to put a turbine driven generator in your phone you fricking simpleton

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lrn2paragraph

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            if this poster had a brain he'd know nat gas plants ramp up and down to manage grid load (all over the world)

            Besides, if we're really gonna autistically insist on relying on a single power source + storage for sake-of-argument-land, nuclear would still be much better than solar in that regard. Just look at OP's graph: Nuclear produces constant power while solar produces LESS when electricity is needed the most.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can do nuclear + some hydro/gas/oil
            France used to be 75% nuclear before they got moronic and started dismantling their nuclear power

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >gas/oil
            Can't. That causes pollution.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Gas is really not that bad because it burns cleanly.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No it doesn't. Gas causes global warming and cancer. Clean gas is a myth.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is that what they say in US to shill against nuclear?
            France literally does that in 30 min

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Carbon zero is homosexualry

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Batteries
    FRICKING...*sigh*...it's all so tiresome.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do they harvest batteries from walnut trees or something? No idea where they get those batteries from.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All the boomers have solar in San Diego, I’m not surprised. Of course this only works here because we have virtually zero weather phenomenon

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > the shittiest technologies for renewable energy source and energy storage (solar panels and batteries) are the most used ones
    JEWED.COM

    I don't want to post anything here but I had a compilation about this topic in /n/ years ago, there is an archive of it linked by 4plebs.org's "about" section. i also posted a lot about it here in /misc/ and some of it in NSFFW.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are you Black folk this moronic?
    You do realize that they restructured the solar deal to frick over consumers who put panels on their homes so the electric companies don't have to pay market rate. The get flat arbitrage to the consumer. It is all a complete scam.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, consumers just need to install batteries and they don't need to pump energy into the grid.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, just pay ten grand for batteries lmfao. cummiefornians are a bunch of idiots. What is the best way to destroy solar panels?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Neglect their maintenance until they fall apart.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Batteries still suck and California is using economies of scale and billions in federal subsidies and inflated gas prices to pretend solar + storage is even close to a viable strategy

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ten grand is pretty cheap to have free energy all day.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They last about 4 hours into the night lmfao. God you are so fricking stupid.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They last several days.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *flat arbitrage* are you fricking moronic?

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So they are using more gas now than in 2021. Good to know.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's all the batteries they have to charge to save the planet.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't know batteries were considered a sourced of fuel.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I didn't know batteries were considered a sourced of fuel.
      Every battery you throw in the ocean increases the power output of solar panels. Trust the Siyence!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can't believe these people think they are environmentalists and have never thrown one car battery in the ocean.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they also cost a gorillion dollars and have about as much utility as this graph shows. You might as well build a capacitor the size of Rhode Island and plant it in Black personville. That will actually have more utility.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They've been cloud seeding like frick to keel the hydro up.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Keep*

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    zero carbon could have been done for decades

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They want to use solar panels to power electrolyzers to produce hydrogen and store it underground and then extract it later and burn it in turbines.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    whats funny is California voters tried to shut down Diablo Nuclear Power station until someone reminded them it would lose 2,000 megawatts of zero carbon electricity and increase carbon emissions.....

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Based hydro princess carrying all their fake and gay solar shit, and caligays still want to tear down their dams. Sad!

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is it all pv or themo-solar?

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    when a nuke comes offline in New England it was replaced by nat gas and emission rose.

    Same in NY when Indian Point was closed for no reason.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >When New York’s deteriorating and unloved Indian Point nuclear plant finally shuttered in 2021, its demise was met with delight from environmentalists who had long demanded it be scrapped.

    >But there has been a sting in the tail – since the closure, New York’s greenhouse gas emissions have gone up.

    >Since the plant’s closure, it has been gas, rather then clean energy such as solar and wind, that has filled the void, leaving New York City in the embarrassing situation of seeing its planet-heating emissions jump in recent years to the point its power grid is now dirtier than Texas’s, as well as the US average.

    >“From a climate change point of view it’s been a real step backwards and made it harder for New York City to decarbonize its electricity supply than it could’ve been,”

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Natural gas is pollution from the earth itself. Burning it actually helps the biosphere. You get water and CO2 which are both good for plants. They pump CO2 directly into greenhouses to get the plants to grow better.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ^^ The real Chad argument

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this is why the US govt is panicking at the absolute domination of the solar panel market by China

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And how much does the state subsidize green energy?

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All of this to produce a fraction of a small nuclear plant's power

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That’s one of the most depressing images I’ve ever seen. All that land will end up being poisoned

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, the total land used by solar is incredibly tiny.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Any land covered in this demonic shit is not worth it. There has to be an alterior motive for this.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >demonic
          AAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA who the frick uses "demonic" in the 21st century? You a boomer that came out of a time machine from the 1980s?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're demonic, gay.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >25% of the posts
            >demons arent real
            Says the demoniac.

            AHAHAHHA he's still using it. Everyone laugh at the silly boomer!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Go back. I’m embarrassed for you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >25% of the posts
            >demons arent real
            Says the demoniac.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          **ulterior

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >nuclear hasn't moved at all
    Maybe it's for the best because we'd have another nuclear catastrophe if we let the CaliforBlack folk build more reactors

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even India has multiple nuclear reactors, and we well know the quality of their engineers. I think that says a lot about the safety of modern reactor models.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They don't want to invest in nuclear because it will end the green energy problem
      Why bother solving something so profitable?
      Hilariously enough, countries that invest in nuclear sell their excess energy to their green energy neighbours who can't produce enough to keep up with demand
      Waste is a thing of the past and now can be reduced to inert rock. There are also large vaults underground where our great grandparents assumed we'd be storing it but everybody is slow to adopt nuclear
      Also if you check the big israeli environmentalist organisations, WEF, Blackrocks ESG fund, etc they all specify nuclear energy being shown in a positive light is forbidden and should be discouraged while green energy and other israeli scams should be shown as examples of green renewable energy

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wow, solar when demand is low and you already have sufficient supply in the middle of the day. Utter scam for morons lol.
    You wanna be green, go nuclear or hydro, and both of those have their own problems

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Since when did it become carbon and not carbon dioxide? Everything is made of carbon, we're made of carbon, they're literally telling you they want you eradicated.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thank frick someone in here gets it.... silicon is their God

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    peak demand is DOWN 3 years later?
    less people or reverse global warming?

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the effects of human made climate change won't become apparent until 2500
    you're worrying over nothing and sucking big corpo wiener for it, actually no. you're sucking everyone's wiener
    the only thing you should worry about is the ozone and the manufactured horrible chemicals that destroyed said ozone and are currently destroying your organs and brain
    carbon dioxide is nothing you should be worried about the man made chemicals, it's not the first time the atmosphere was full of carbon and biological ecosystems have a way to bring the balance of carbon back down. also solar panels are bad they're only useful for space craft and this is a fact, they're completely useless on a planet. all the lithium and zinc to make theses solar panels. that's alot of orphan black kids on africa to make something so useless and irrelevant

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the effects of human made climate change won't become apparent until 2500
      False. They became apparent in the 20th century.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no. that's not carbon moron
        like i said in my post you should be worried about actual dangerous chemicals and not carbon
        carbon is the most natural most normal form of pollution you can find. even volcanos exhale carbon
        if you fail to understand this you should have your voting rights removed
        solar panels are completely irrelevant
        but you know what kills more frogs and fish each year? all the biological waste you subhumans dump on the ocean and plastics

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes it is. You ever heard of global warming?

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah uh, maybe you could learn a little restraint in consumption instead of doing the same exploitative shit we always do to “solve problems” because I’m not sure the lifetime of that equipment is even long enough to recoup the energy cost of making it.

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