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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you use words like investment when you are talking about building relationships, it was over before it even started. The brainwashing worked on so many young morons.

    As an unrelated question, can anyone of you clown world materialist dorks give me the ROI of posting here?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Getting a gf is not the stock market

      >If you use words like investment when you are talking about building relationships, it was over before it even started.
      If a relationship isn't an investment, what is it?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is a relationship. You relate to someone, and you share the experience of life together. In a spiritual sense you bond with someone and become one entity. In a physical sense you extend your will and sense of self through your community and family.

        Even if you need to put it into autistic transactional terms, which is an unnatural abomination that sets you up for failure, every time you spend time building a relationship with a person, those skills and experiences are transferable to your next relationship. You dont start from zero. There is no physical way to save time, so you have to spend it with people you are attracted to or else you just waste it from a biological and transactional perspective, and relationships are quite literally priceless. No amount of materialism is going to protect you from the vulnerabilities of the human experience as a lonely man, and the vulnerability of a lonely man being an easy target

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You get into a relationship because you get something out of it. If you didn't get anything out of it, then there'd be no reason to get into it. Hence, it is transactional.
          >Even if you need to put it into autistic transactional terms, which is an unnatural abomination that sets you up for failure, every time you spend time building a relationship with a person, those skills and experiences are transferable to your next relationship. You dont start from zero.
          I'm not sure I see the contradiction. If anything, it perfectly demonstrates the theory that it's a transaction. You gain skills and become better at "relationship" stuff. You gain xp in exchange for time and effort.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Quick question, do you call breathing air a transaction? If so, you are already living in a transactional relationship, so there is functionally no difference between being alone or with a girlfriend.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Quick question, do you call breathing air a transaction?
            Technically, yes.
            >If so, you are already living in a transactional relationship, so there is functionally no difference between being alone or with a girlfriend.
            There is a difference, because the thing that is being traded is different. It's like buying potatoes vs carrots with money, you spend something but you get a different end product.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There is no difference. When you are breathing air, you are technically in a transactional relationship. You are investing all your time and energy into breathing

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You would not make this thread unless you got something out of it. What is it you are seeking?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're correct. What do you think?

            >people always consciously and subconsciously do things for a predetermined reason
            >people always get what they want
            Your fallacies are so absurd it doesnt even get to be called a theory.

            Give me your low IQ distinction between a transactional relationship and a non transactional one. If all relationships are transactional, then you concede that the word has absolutely no meaning, you can just call it a relationship and that your meme investments by definition have a positive return.

            always consciously and subconsciously do things for a predetermined reason
            More or less
            always get what they want
            Never said that
            >Your fallacies are so absurd it doesnt even get to be called a theory.
            >Give me your low IQ distinction between a transactional relationship and a non transactional one. If all relationships are transactional, then you concede that the word has absolutely no meaning, you can just call it a relationship and that your meme investments by definition have a positive return.
            All relationships are transactional, the question is what is your end goal for a relationship. Like I said, depending on the amount of money you have, you can buy potatoes, carrots, both, or none. It all depends on your starting parameters.

            There is no difference. When you are breathing air, you are technically in a transactional relationship. You are investing all your time and energy into breathing

            You can breathe air and do other things at the same time because you have enough of the right parameters for those things to occur. For example, you can breathe air and go for a walk at the same time because nature permits it. However, you can't breathe air and hold your breath at the same time.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nobody can invest their time and energy into breathing and doing other things at the same time.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's not true. What do you mean?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I mean what I said. People that invest their time and energy into breathing are in a transactional relationship. Its really that simple.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Explain

            Nobody can invest their time and energy into breathing and doing other things at the same time.

            >Nobody can invest their time and energy into breathing and doing other things at the same time.
            to me. It doesn't make sense, because you can clearly do other things while breathing. It's a parallel process part of nature.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >parallel process
            Are you just making up words or are you ESL? We are talking about being in a transactional relationship.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Are you just making up words or are you ESL?
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_computing
            You can do other things while breathing. I don't get the point of your posts. Your insults don't change the nature of this fact.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What does parallel computing have to do with your relationship?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you being intentionally dense?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How so? If you invest your time and energy into breathing, then you cannot invest it on other things. Its really that simple. Some ESL dork started talking about computers for some reason.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If you invest your time and energy into breathing, then you cannot invest it on other things. Its really that simple.
            No, it really isn't that simple. Time and reality doesn't work that way.
            >Some ESL dork started talking about computers for some reason
            Because it was an example of multiple things being done in the same time period, you moron.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >No, it really isnt
            I promise you that it is.
            >an example of the things
            Be more specific

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Continues to be intentionally dense
            I cannot reason with someone who chooses not to be reasoned with.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How so? You are being disingenuous and obtuse for bringing up computers in a conversation that has nothing to do with computers. I accept your concession though.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Continues to be even more intentionally dense than before
            When will it end?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Who are you quoting? I already accepted your concession

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're so intentionally dense I think you might collapse spacetime.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you the obtuse anon who randomly talks about computers as weak bait?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Here, take your last (You). You deserve it for being a moron this long.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That has nothing to do with my question or anything we were talking about. I accept your concession.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >people always consciously and subconsciously do things for a predetermined reason
            >people always get what they want
            Your fallacies are so absurd it doesnt even get to be called a theory.

            Give me your low IQ distinction between a transactional relationship and a non transactional one. If all relationships are transactional, then you concede that the word has absolutely no meaning, you can just call it a relationship and that your meme investments by definition have a positive return.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No point in talking about bonds when hoes out there "bonded" with Allah only knows how many dudes

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There is a point, if you build relationships. No amount of porn addiction changes biology

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >There is a point

            Not to the relationship

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There is nothing you can do alone anymore. People just spend all their time with their partners, even if you dont realize it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he thinks it was brainwashing
      By whom you fricking israelite? People who live in a permanent state of stress and scarcity develop this mindset naturally. You know what separates people like me who look at it as an investment and people like you who don't? Nurturing parents and environment, that's literally it. You didn't earn jackshit you fricking c**t

      Btw you're right it's an unhealthy and wrong way to look at life and people, but it is the only way I know.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The mindset is hella gay to begin with. The words come from Hollywood movies and Wall Street journalism. It bled through corporate culture into internet culture cuckoldry, and here we are. People like you who apply business and banking concepts into real world experiences, with the philosophy either superficially or fundamentally, that what gives you success in business or finance is what gives you success as a human. For morbillions of years, people didnt care or even have the concept of ROI. You learned through trial and error and lived in the moment. Even if you are someone with a good sense of foresight and insight, a meme investor doesnt actually predict the future or make claims about outcome. It is a continuous process with ever changing risks. The only way you lose is by not playing

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >If you use words like investment when you are talking about building relationships, it was over before it even started.
      All relationships are transactional. All of them. You PAY attention, you SPEND time, you INVEST time and effort... It's baked right into the language. It's one of those things people like to cover their ears and ignore because it's uncomfortable to think about, kinda like how the ground beef in your hamburger got to the supermarket. It's just how things are, you can get upset when someone brings it to your attention but that's life.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its factually true that people who treat relationships as transactions or investments are over before it even began.

        In a transaction, you have clear terms where you agree on the value of a product or service. In an investment, you have a clear agreement on paper on the value of a security or other investment vehicle. You are counterparties to each other, one buyer and one seller, who value something equally but have different incentives on either side of a trade.

        In a relationship, it is the complete and exact opposite. There is never a moment in a relationship where you can have the same value of anything you do, because of fundamental cognitive biases and the fact that people in a relationship contribute different roles and functions and capabilities. You will always overestimate the value of your contribution and underestimate the contribution of your partner, and even if you try to quantify everything there will always be disagreement without any final transaction because a relationship by definition is continuous and not discrete. Also, two people in a relationship are on the same side of the human experience. You either collaborate in a world that benefits healthy couples for millions of years of evolution, or you transactionally and selfishly extract from each other until one of you breaks. Its really that simple. Men with trophy wives are only happy for the sex and status, not the relationship. And once the woman is no longer young, its over. Plus, wanting a trophy wife is only viable for rich men

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What you said is a far cry from "complete and exact opposite" matey. Is it muddy? sure, but still a transaction.

          >Men with trophy wives are only happy for the sex and status, not the relationship. And once the woman is no longer young, its over. Plus, wanting a trophy wife is only viable for rich men
          Cope also you sound like a catlady roastie angry no sane man wants to invest in you kek

          nta btw

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Its not muddy, its a clear distinction.

            In an investment, two counterparties trade something of equal value while having opposing incentives. It is discrete and final.

            In a relationship, two people join together to provide for each other not based on trade value but based on uniting incentives and moral values. It is continuous.

            The grift of PUA ghouls is that you can take what top performers in IB do and just apply that to women. It makes sense on paper, but when you try it in the real world you fail. And you would be out of your mind if you thought roasties dont like being trophy wives for rich men, morono, theres just not enough bimbos for every autist who watched a YouTube video

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >In a relationship, two people join together to provide for each other not based on trade value but based on uniting incentives and moral values. It is continuous.
            That's a transaction, just a more ambiguous form of it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Calling any action a transaction completely misses the point of the trans part of transaction. You would do good to read a book, ESL anon.

            >actually, when you do nothing and dont get anything, thats also a transaction

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My apologies, I thought I replied to someone with a brain. I didn't mean to reply to you again

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's no problem. The guy who said that a transaction could somehow be "ambiguous" was just baiting you.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You PAY attention, you SPEND time, you INVEST time and effort... It's baked right into the language.
        Based anon also capped.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its the same thing with how your coworkers are basically your family. Good employees will work for free if they want to be part of the team

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A highly unoriginal, bargin-bin Slave mentality.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >baked
        >lil bro thinks language comes from an oven
        Oh man

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >lil bro
          I thought I was your lil bro, big bro/sis?

          >I love
          Oops, you slipped up, lil bro

          What happened?

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Getting a gf is not the stock market

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love when "power of friendship" sissies get triggered when you point out the transactional nature of all relationships. it's almost as fun as saying you're antinatalist.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I love
      Oops, you slipped up, lil bro

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >nature
      >using a term intended for one of the most unnatural concepts in the world

      Actually this is based. Life is like a box of chocolates ahh meme.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do autistic people incapable of having empathy?

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Correct.
    >Knowing that at any moment she could leave you or more likely cheat on you and break your heart
    >Knowing that she could always be lying about being on birth control, unless you see her take it she didn't really take it
    >Knowing that even birth control doesn't guarantee you won't have an accidental baby
    >Knowing that if you are married, she can one day decide to leave you and take half of everything you own and force you to move out and live in a 1 bed flat
    >Having to trust her with your money
    >Having to trust her with your car
    >Having to trust her with the house you most likely paid the most into
    >Having to talk to her dumbass family
    >Having to make sure she gets off during sex
    >Having to entertain her spontaneous needs such as getting a dog, subscribing to every single streaming service, building a yoga room or some other stupid shit
    >Not being able to escape her apart from when you at work
    Yeah I'm good on my own

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly men cannot be trusted in the first place. They just cheat and are violent against innocent women.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ask me how I know you're a woman. originally of course.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Feminists were right all along

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Women have the authority of the state to use against men at all times.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Even the state knows that men cannot be trusted

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because its purpose is not to totally buckbreak men into becoming complete wagekeks taxpayers to fund women and their endeavours.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nobody with a brain would ever trust men

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's a (trans)woman, I'm sure of it

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If everything is an investment or transaction then they are pointless words to use as it should go without saying.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think teenagers dont really understand that when you invest, you arent just giving your money away, you are buying a piece of something that you can sell at a later date. Somewhere in the gambling addiction era these guys started thinking that investment is when you pay attention or give free money away to something and just hope to get something back in the end. Like they genuinely think that you increase your chance of winning every time you play the lottery lol

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        False comparison
        >just hope to get something back in the end.
        Either sex in the case of women because thats all theyre good for, or a friend who has your back and opens doors (youd the same for him)

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thats the point. Doing something for someone because you trust them is by definition not a transaction or investment. Men have sex because it is a natural part of any human life

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