trans women are intersex female. trans men are intersex males. gender is fake

trans women are intersex female
trans men are intersex males
gender is fake

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    And please tell me how this arbitrary and bizarre theory benefits society? Bonus points if you can describe how it holds any weight

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it's important to consider in a medical setting when on hrt and depending what surgeries you've had. and gender is just useless

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I wonder why every successful society in the world has had different roles for men and women then
        FYI, you will never be a woman

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          right because there are no women, only male and female. and trans "women" are intersex female

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And please tell me how society deserves to benefit from me?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i am a disgusting autistic man with mild gynecomastia, no other way to put it, it is OVER.

    My life couldn't become worse even if I fricking tried. Frick all of you!

    I only trust and like people who hate trannies. At least you can trust in their hate being authentic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      people who hate trannies are the majority of the world. counter culture accepts them, same as it did in the 60s

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you say that like the alternative (being "accepted" by a small community but only on the basis of being such a failure as a man that you castrate yourself and are permanently viewed as comical, an emasculated failure of a man, not a woman) Given all the tools to succeed, and yet still fricked up any chances of having a good normal life up beyond repair.

        I am disgusted by the aberrant unrecognisable version of myself I have grown up to be.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          that's on you for not accepting yourself, don't project your nonsensical bias onto intersex people

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            All I hear is a nasally voice saying "You need to accept yourself for what are you, a fricking homosexual!".

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          honestly it's better to be a hon than a man, that's the point of transitioning in the first place, but it's unironically society's fault that trans women have so many brainworms, they just decided morals are conditional when it comes to us

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Actually, trans women are just males and trans men are just females

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      no they're intersex females and intersex males respectively. from transition they get more sexual traits of the "opposite" sex from what they were born as. hence intersex

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >this garbage
    Lol, no.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Absolutely and it's disrespectful to the people who have them!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        There are more religions than just Christianity. Therefore it's possible to be atheist. Oops I guess I just offended Hindus.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Chill with the Whataboutism and maybe i'll start taking you seriously

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this is stupid. chromosomes are one part of sex, but so are primary and secondary sex characteristics, as well as dominant hormone. hence intersex

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's not how this works. Also, gender is fake, only biological sex is real.
    t. Bachelor's in Biology

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      name 5 traits that determine biological sex

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      so you agree that they're intersex as that's all they can be

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Intersex is people with chromosome disorders, and is extremely rare. Gender is fake. Sex, determined by your chromosomes which in 99.9% of cases is either XX or XY, is all that is real.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      intersex is more complicated than that, just like sex is. hence we're intersex and lean more towards the opposite of our birth sex after hrt and surgeries

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        then explain why I look like Adam Lanza if he was a gyno ridden manlet and had an even longer more comically skull-like face.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          intersex

          HRT and surgeries are human-invented abominations that have nothing to do with what is natural. Your chromosomes determine your sex. If you have XY, you are a man. If you have XY and you like men, you are a gay man. If you are XY and like wearing women's clothes, you are a man who likes wearing women's clothes.

          dominant hormone changes from T to E
          secondary sex characteristics of E form
          changing the primary sex characteristic at just changes or to neutral

          therefore we're closer to intersex female or male

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Oh so you're just a schizo
            .Got it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm losing the logic battle? I know, I'll call them a schizo!
            literal moron

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        HRT and surgeries are human-invented abominations that have nothing to do with what is natural. Your chromosomes determine your sex. If you have XY, you are a man. If you have XY and you like men, you are a gay man. If you are XY and like wearing women's clothes, you are a man who likes wearing women's clothes.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          life is a human invented abomination. The heat death of the universe cannot come sooner.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Intersex is people with chromosome disorders
      So are Androgen Insensitivity males not intersex? Even CAIS males? Just because they have normal XYs? Come on moron. Don't throw out fake "99.9%" horseshit you picked off of skimming twitter.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine not having a penis and still being technically male. Nightmare world. I wouldn't know how to explain such a thing

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I wouldn't know how to explain such a thing
          Then maybe you should be more nuanced in your assertions about the world and the billions of people in it.

          HRT and surgeries are human-invented abominations that have nothing to do with what is natural. Your chromosomes determine your sex. If you have XY, you are a man. If you have XY and you like men, you are a gay man. If you are XY and like wearing women's clothes, you are a man who likes wearing women's clothes.

          >HRT and surgeries are human-invented abominations that have nothing to do with what is natural.
          stop taking medicine and die then you stupid c**t

          HRT and surgeries are human-invented abominations that have nothing to do with what is natural. Your chromosomes determine your sex. If you have XY, you are a man. If you have XY and you like men, you are a gay man. If you are XY and like wearing women's clothes, you are a man who likes wearing women's clothes.

          >Your chromosomes determine your sex
          LOL what about genitals? gonads? hormones?? you don't know anything

          it's so sad the current moron subhuman freaks who think they're intellectuals for listening to joe rogan at 2x speed while half drunk after their Amazon shift spent years shitposting online about "FACTS AND SCIENCE!! PWNED LIBTARDS!!!!!!" and still don't know shit

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            well said nona

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ty bella

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What are you saying? I was feeling bad for dudes born with CAIS

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            what is there to feel bad for? Their bodies literally cannot respond to T so they literally aren't men even if they're genetically XY. The vast majority of the time they're literally just normal women.

            "Dudes with CAIS" would constitute a handful of FTMs who find out they're genetically male but cannot respond to testosterone, and then promptly an hero.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Okay, but are they intersex or not. their chromosomes are XY so their biological sex must be 100% normal male and non-intersex, right? Or is there more to biological sex categorization than just chromosomes?

            HRT and plastic surgery are not medicine and are actually harmful to those who take them. They cause permanent blood pressure issues, infections, and infertility. They serve no benefit beyond cosmetic body image satisfaction, which is pointless.
            >genitals? gonads? hormones?
            What about them? You're a man whether you cut your wiener and balls off or not. Sorry.

            >HRT and plastic surgery are not medicine
            Why isn't hormones or surgeries not "medicine". Insulin is a hormone too, is it not a medicine? Is it all determined by what "ME NO LIKE!!!" like a subhuman moron freak?

            >They cause permanent blood pressure issues, infections, and infertility.
            No they don't lol. You've seen those photo covers of pregnant FTMs. Infertility is a meme. "Infections" from HRT makes no sense lol. And from surgeries, yes, all surgeries have a risk of infections, this doesnt make all surgeries therefore bad.

            >What about them?
            What determines sex? Why can't you morons follow a single train of thought? Did your crack prostitute mother rape you or something and give you brain damage? Think, moron!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes genitals play a role as well. Saying that chromosomes are the full defining factor is lunacy at best.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Insulin is a hormone too
            Insulin prevents people from dying. HRT is just cosmetic.
            >all surgeries have a risk of infections, this doesn't make all surgeries bad
            You're right. The fact that it's cosmetic surgery is what makes it an abomination. There is no medical reason to get it. You don't die if you don't get it. You aren't disabled if you don't get it. It's purely for cosmetic reasons.
            >What determines sex
            I already said chromosomes objectively determine sex. That was my argument from the beginning. Chromosomes are sex. XX = female and XY = male. Any variation on that is intersex, which is a rare mutation. Genitals, hormones, mental state, whatever don't have anything to do with sex. You're the one introducing all this extra bullshit that doesn't matter.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Insulin prevents people from dying. HRT is just cosmetic.
            That has nothing to do with determining if something being a medicine or not. Sex hormones are indeed extremely important biological chemicals and necessary for human health and life. Stick to the fricking topic you stupid c**t.

            >You don't die if you don't get it. You aren't disabled if you don't get it. It's purely for cosmetic reasons.
            Sex hormones are indeed necessary for human survival. You're such a failure dude.

            >I already said chromosomes objectively determine sex.
            Prove it. Show us the facts without saying words like "abomination" or other meme words you got from your podcasts.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Your sex hormones should match your chromosomes if you want to be healthy. Why do transgender people get heart disease and blood pressure issues from HRT? They're getting the wrong hormones from what their body needs, because they're fixated on a cosmetic image of themselves that doesn't match the reality they were born into.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Your sex hormones should match your chromosomes if you want to be healthy.
            This is magical fantasy. Your body has both estrogen and androgen receptors. You have estrogen in your body right now you stupid homosexual. Your body can develop under either estrogen or testosterone. CAIS people survive just fine and are perfectly healthy despite being XY males with zero testosterone receptivity.

            >Why do transgender people get heart disease and blood pressure issues from HRT?
            Where are you sourcing this? The reason estrogen might cause a XY male to get different heart conditions, is because everyone with an estrogen-dominant hormone system has those same issues. Women tend to have different rates of heart conditions and other issues as androgenic males.

            I truly doubt you have any diploma at all other than jerking yourself off raw.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Why do transgender people get heart disease and blood pressure issues from HRT?
            You say that like people like you don't want trans people to be forced on antipsychotic medications that can cause irreversible damage beyond that of even the hardest of drugs,

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Jordan Peterson and his crew is now saying trannies should drop acid to cure their troonyness.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're putting words in my mouth. I simply believe the Bogdanoffs are a mental illness and trannies are no different from them. I don't think it should be illegal or that people should be put on antipsychotics for it, but extreme body modification is not justifiable as sane behavior and certainly shouldn't be encouraged. Trannies should be socially shunned the same way that people who get their eyes tattooed are shunned.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Estrogen isn't a big deal bro. I have breasts and my thighs are a little thiccer. Get a grip (if you want).

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It wouldn't be a big deal if you actually LOOKED like a woman. But you most likely just look like a teenage guy with wider hips and slight gyno. You should have a fricking problem with how other men view you as an emasculated subhuman at best, because they certainly arent seeing you as a woman.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >It wouldn't be a big deal if you actually LOOKED like a woman.
            I was at a function recently as a guy with my chest bounded in a suit and still passed as a girl, and when I dress normally at work etc I never ever ever don't pass even when I don't do my hair or makeup etc.

            Are you saying "body modification" isn't immoral and sinful as long as I pass? Passing is based on luck, genetics, and timing, which is why early intervention for dysphorics is essential and should actually be endorsed for such individuals such as myself. This is the only moral option IMO.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            post your face or I refuse to believe you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            not her but I don't wear makeup and I pass as a woman too. although I hang around old people, mostly for cultural reasons, so they might not know what to look for. but they'd be honest if I didn't pass

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Are you saying "body modification" isn't immoral and sinful as long as I pass
            I'm saying the ONLY thing that matters is how you look, nothing else. If you aren't the top 0.01% of troons the only solution is cope or die.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I have literally no idea what Bogdanoffs are

            Jordan Peterson and his crew is now saying trannies should drop acid to cure their troonyness.

            It sounds too good to be true, because it is. There is no cure. You just have the choice the thug it out or give in.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            HRT and plastic surgery are not medicine and are actually harmful to those who take them. They cause permanent blood pressure issues, infections, and infertility. They serve no benefit beyond cosmetic body image satisfaction, which is pointless.
            >genitals? gonads? hormones?
            What about them? You're a man whether you cut your wiener and balls off or not. Sorry.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >moronic "logic"

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >troony needs to resort to ad hominem
            classic

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I only throw what I catch. ad hominem meets ad hominem for morons like yourself

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >sex is either MALE or FEMALE
    >it's all determined by uh...PENIS or vegana
    >well most of the time
    >well it's also all determined by GONADS...
    >and maybe GAMETES...
    >and also uh...well phenotype...
    >hormonal makeup...uh...well it's a bunch of things isn't it uh...
    >ANYWAYS ITS REALLY REALLY REALLY SIMPLE YOU STUPID troony

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ITS ALL CHROMOSOMES!!
    NO NO WAIT ITS ALL GENITALS!!
    NO NO WAIT ITS ALL GONADS!!
    NO NO WAIT ITS ALL GAMETES!!
    NO NO WAIT ITS ALL CHROMSOMES!!
    UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FRICK FRICK JORDAN PETERSON AND BEN SHAPIRO DIDNT PREPARE ME FOR THIS ONE UHHHHHHHHH

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Okay I read this and see what OP is getting at. But what's the fricking point?

    The other anons are correct from the perspective that we are a sexually dimorphic species whose phenotype is in one of two distinct clusters or modes. If you fall too far outside of those for whatever reason you are very likely to be sterile. An evolutionary manufacturing defect to be culled.

    That said I'm not sure what evidence there is for troons having some identifiable inherent characteristic that you could argue belongs within this cluster of things we call sex. Typically the physical equipment is fine before you guys frick with it and as far as "different brain" there's evidence of trenders being a real thing.

    If you want to go truscum and argue dysphoria has a biological basis and therefore counts as intersex, knock yourself out. Doesn't have much practical importance.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >there's evidence of trenders being a real thing.
      there isn't really. if you're talking about ROGD that was solely based on parents voting on an internet poll.

      i remember in 2010 homosexuals were saying it was a trend and would "collapse any day now!" and it still hasn't happened. if anything the rate of referrals etc has plateaud

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >nitpick the lowest hanging fruit
        >completely ignore everything else

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You didn't say anything other than "I don't care" "It don't matta" which are just your opinions. Bringing up so-called evidence which doesn't exist however was something I wanted to remark on.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I gave my opinion on you creating the thread. What do you hope to get out of pushing a technicality?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I didn't create the thread. And why care so much about my nitpick about your stupid trender comment? Maybe you shouldn't have bothered to make it at all if you knew it was stupid to begin with.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    trans women:
    female dominant hormone
    female secondary sex characteristics
    male secondary sex characteristics neutralized
    male primary sex characteristic neutralized
    male chromosomes

    mostly female, some male. so intersex female

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've never met a right winger that didn't turn into a drooling sniveling lying c**t the second troony issues came up. They could be some esteemed scholar or "serious type" and insist on all sorts of philosophical rationale for other debates while showing off their book collections, but whenever it comes to trannies, it's like a switch gets flipped and they repeat braindead moron stonetoss hatefax meme shit they heard on their groyper servers or start sputtering out slurs like an inbred trailer trash dog fricker. Without fail, every single one.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't care about trannies. I just sling slurs and watch the chaos because I love to make people angry

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >It's not a "medicine" because I don't like it, surgeries are all evil if I don't agree with them, yes I am a biology student

    right wingers literally all believe this

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    balding causes major suicidal feelings in millions of men, therefore testosterone is evil and should be eradicated. Testosterone is unhealthy. Is this logical?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      testosterone is evil, but it would be kinda based if all afabs were offered testosterone, literally it promotes equal rights, and the discrepancy between testosterone levels and social roles are probably why men are stereotypically bad and women aren't, but i'd rather be in a society where women were as aggressive and dangerous as men if it meant they got to be equals and we never had to hear rhetoric about men being essentially bad or violence being stored in the penis or whatever

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's funny rightoid subhumans treat sex hormones as some kind of fricking evil narcotic cancer satan chemical that kills on impact. what do they think is running through their blood.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    People who work out at the gym to change their bodies is not justifiable as sane behavior and certainly shouldn't be encouraged.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, we go to the gym to gain strength and be healthy. This, as a consequence, increases the quality of our lives by being able to function better and feel good. Trannies on the other hand physically mutilate themselves and pretend to feel better. Shitty analogy.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Trannies take estrogen to gain secondary sex characteristics and be healthy. This, as a consequence, increases the quality of our lives by being able to function better and feel good.

        >No, we go to the gym to gain strength and be healthy.
        And yet so many fitbros still kill themselves. Therefore the gym and working out should be banned. Right? Ohhhhh I guess if you wike something then its good!!! Why are rightoids all braindead subhumans like yourself who can only spew homosexual memes? What drugs do you take bro because BAP told you to?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >be healthy
          BZZZ WRONG, try again dumbass.

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