Tried to pick up a 10/10 goth chick from tinder but I fucked up, please save me

Normally I wouldn’t care and just move but she’s absolutely beautiful and I’m sure there’s still something I can do lol

So basically I saw this 10/10 goth girl on tinder and decided to hit her up on instagram, the conversation was as follows (I’ll translate it to English but it sounds not as bad in my native language):

>„You know, I actually wished for a cute goth gf last Christmas and there you are finally“

„I’m kinda late though :‘)“ (she followed me back)

>„You kept me waiting, we have a lot to catch up on“

„Hahaha when and where?“

>„Sunday in *city*. I bet you like sushi, I know a good place. And afterwards we can down a bottle of my finest cheapo vodka at my place“

„I think I’m gonna pass.“

>„Not a fan of sushi?“

„Sushi is fine but the rest isn’t.“ (she unfollowed me)

>„Then let's skip the rest and make up for it with twice as much sushi."

Just sent the last message and she hasn’t seen it yet. Is there any way I can recover from that? lol
Really don’t wanna give up on her yet, she’s the hottest girl I’ve seen so far

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    sushi and alcohol huh

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Probably invited her to my place too early but that’s just how I do it with other girls and most of the time it works. Oh well, sometimes at least.

    Please give me some advice

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Your date is fricking boring bro.
      >Ya let's just eat posh food, get drunk off lower shelf goose, then just like-ahaha frick?
      You clearly don't know a thing about this woman and she saw right through you.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What else could I have done with her?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >>„Sunday in *city*. I bet you like sushi, I know a good place. And afterwards we can down a bottle of my finest cheapo vodka at my place“
          lmao why did you say this? You had it in the bag. The fact that she followed you back was good. Don't be overly sexual on the first interaction, she already knows that it's implied when you're hitting her up that you want to eventually frick her or date her so there's no need to explicitly ask her to your place.
          If she likes you on the date she'll likely want to go back with you anyways. Or setup another date where that can happen.

          Depends on the size of your city, but there's a lot you can do.
          Go check out a museum, go dancing at a club, take her thrift shopping, go on a walk, karaoke, bike ride or rent scooters and ride around the city, mini golf, bowling, roller skating, etc.
          Just be playful, girls just wanna have fun. Think of your dates like "playdates"

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Frickkk how can I save the conversation now, is there any hope or is it over?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            pic with sushi
            pic with alcohol

            see how she feels. i dont even use insta and this makes sense to me, where do i go wrong?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Don't listen to

            pic with sushi
            pic with alcohol

            see how she feels. i dont even use insta and this makes sense to me, where do i go wrong?

            Just leave it at that, don't chase her. you already lost her follow and turned her off with your invite over.
            Just move one, maybe she responds to your last message in a few days or weeks from now and you can pick up from there. But otherwise don't send any more messages, you'll look desperate.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, I can agree with this anon. If she's already shot you down then you may just have to accept the loss or risk making the situation even worse.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Picnics
          >Scenic views, more secret the spot the better
          >something fun, doesn't matter just something. Carnival, concert, thrift hunting (bitches love that)
          >flex cooking ability to seduce her
          >aquariums
          >zoos
          >smoke sesh if she's into that but prob not given context
          >some girls like hiking, not a lot tho nor would one who got the ick want to do that 1st date
          >coffee shop date (super low investment easy to sus it out for both parties)
          >If she's a creative, ask if she wanna do art together. Even if you suck or take her to a gallery
          >Jogging if she's into that
          >Cat Cafe if she likes cats.

          The sky is the limit but dudes are too pussy to be labeled as simps that they don't spend anytime being romantic and im a dude.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't even think it's the simp thing, I think a lot of guys just find dates boring because they aren't that imaginative with dates.
            A lot of them just see dates as a trial they have to pass to have sex instead of something for them to enjoy too.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Dates as trials
            This is true for the man who wants a hookup.
            For those who just want love, you best change that lens you look through before crashing into reality.

            You need to remember we are living in the fallout of mid 2000's "You're gay" dude bro insults. Oh you LIKE to hold hands? What are you? Fricking gay?

            I struggle finding someone who's emotionally available/Not a POS/Monogamous but to those in the PNW this seems to be rare.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >PNW
            ?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Pacific north west.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think you killed her interest by suggesting you get blackout drunk on your first date, much like she said.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, you think there’s any chance I can rekindle her interest?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, I think you just got unlucky OP. Seems like you played it all pretty well, but the chick in question may have some baggage regarding alcoholism that turns her off immediately. That and the usage of the word "cheapo" may have been insulting to her, even if it was intended to be playful. When it comes to inviting someone for booze, I think you have to use a lot more tact, even if you have to lie a bit.

    Best you can do is try to make it seem like you'll bust out the "top shelf" vodka instead (i.e. "we can save the cheapo booze for another night :^)") sort of thing. Or try to find out if she's not much of a drinker (she may end up going off about drinking and how much she hates it, so be prepared for that).

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There is no such thing as a 10/10 of either gender in real life. That isn't how that works. Picrel is a 5/10 average looking girl.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      In my area she really does stand out. You wouldn’t believe how ugly the girls are over here. Plus I always wanted to frick alt goth emo uwu girls

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I’m an alt guy. From my experience goth chicks don’t like to be “fetishized” for being goth - especially by those who aren’t goth themselves. It comes across as desperate to be like “omg be my goth girl gf”. At most just say “I dig ur vibe” or some vague shit. Also you were way too quick to suggest going back to your place - especially when drinking is involved. It comes across like you just want to use her for a hook-up. Especially combined with the objectification of her aesthetic in the earlier messages.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you really wanted to try to take her home you should’ve brought it up DURING the date after you finished eating sushi - “hey wanna swing by my place, I just bought a fresh bottle” - that way the chemistry would’ve been already flowing if there was any since you two are already on the date. Look into escalation ladders, you went from 0-100. You basically want to do

      Invite on date —-> go on date —-> light physical touch/banter/flirting —-> kiss at end of date or invite back home if you want to try to smash

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        As a woman and someone familiar with the subculture, I agree.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nope, suck up your loss and move on. There are other 10s out there

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ok so she read my message 2 hours ago and didn’t respond so I guess it’s over.
    You think it could work if I wait a few weeks and try again? If so what should I say to her?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >And afterwards we can down a bottle of my finest cheapo vodka at my place

    Sounds like you're offering to date rape her or at least implying you expect sex on the first date. Women want you to take things unbearably slowly unless she feels like "losing control" in the heat of the moment, in which case you're supposed to psychically Intuit that and switch from gentleman to porn star immediately.

    I've watched a girl go from "stick it in me right fricking now" to "actually I'm really tired" just from being asked for verbal consent to avoid potential rape charges

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >strike one
    Implying you just want to get her drunk and stick penis in vegana
    >strike two
    Texting her after she unfollowed you out of desperation

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