Trying to defend women to a sexist but can't come up with anything

His claim was that "Women are useless. They have no traits over men, and even men are better stay-at-homes. (statistically and on average blah blah blah)."

I thought that it would be easy to smash his arguments into dust but when I started thinking about it, I couldn't come up with a retort to this idea that women are useless.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Men can't have babies and aren't hot

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Men can't have babies

      If that's the only thing women have, then they could be put in breeding cages and society would be technically better? That's a sexist thing to claim, Anon. Shame on you.

      >aren't hot

      Sex dolls become the new norm and platonic bromances are allowed to flourish again.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      most women couldn't either until men invented modern medicine that stopped maternal death in childbirth lmao

      how useless women are

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >most women couldn't either
        translation
        >I have never read a book

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          what a non response

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This post has been up for a little bit now. Why aren't the women of this board willing to tackle it?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why aren't women willing to bash their head against a wall to talk to men who will never change their mind anyway, even in the face of evidence refuting their points
      what a mystery. "arguing" with men is always the same song and dance

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah but if they dissappear so does the human race.
    Women also want to be "top g" they also want to make a positive difference in the world and place their name in history books.

    You can't deny these conscious beings the full human experience just because there's statistically more men on the right end of the iq bell curve than women or because they can't build muscle like men can.

    Why not leave it up to the individual to choose whether they want to be a side character/an entertainer or a doer/achiever and make something of themselves.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why not leave it up to the individual to choose whether they want to be a side character/an entertainer or a doer/achiever and make something of themselves.

      because autonomy is not always best for society. That's what the great debate between the left and the right is. What's best for society or what's best for the individual selfish person.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        People aren't breeding because the economy isn't what it used to be. You can't buy a lakehouse and raise a family on a Mcwage anymore.
        Enslaving women isn't going to fix this they'd still just slave away their days to maybe be able to afford retirement in 40 years if they don't take on additional expenses like buying a house and use sex as a temporary dopamine fix just like we do now.

        Not everyone can be a successful entrepreneur with a consistent revenue that's above the average income some need to be their workers and the existence of lobbying ascertains that the interests of the business owner outweigh those of common worker.

        You really think your average median wage dude wouldn't have 10 kids like Elon Musk if he could afford to?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >eople aren't breeding because the economy isn't what it used to be
          People in wealthy and poor countries are all having similar declines in fertility.
          Even in wealthy nations even wealthy people have declining fertility.
          The decline in fertility began with the wealthier members of society, not the poorer ones.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            High GDP per capita =/= affordable housing/food/tuition/gas.
            We live in a consumerist society our culture and economy relies on broke people flexing on their equally broke neighbor. Do you really think people within this society would rather be perceived as broke with a kid rather than moderately wealthy?

            Finance guru tells you to live frigally in your YouTube because compound interest works when best when you start young. This is just the way the system is set up save up when you're young and fertile and have kids later when your wife is almost out of eggs but you can afford to feed them something other than rice and beans everyday. People are raised on the saying "don't have kids if you can't afford em".

            Look at us north Americans. The entire world would agree that we are "wealthy" and we all agree that rent and housing is unaffordable and groceries have tripled in just half a decade. A 300k house in 2015-16 is now going for 1.2M in suburbs. City centers have shacks with only a ground floor going for >$1M.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >affordable housing/food/tuition/gas.
            Again, there is ZERO evidence that the fertility decline that has been ongoing for 60 years is because of family finances. Even nations like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait where a majority of the actual citizens have high inceome, free education, free medical care, AND FREE HOUSING has seen the same sharp fertility decline!
            >Rent and housing
            The current spike in housing prices is because between 2020 and 2023 North America had record setting levels of people buying homes. This is a temporary bubble already reversing with rents already dropping.
            It won't help fertility.
            In 2016-2020 when the US has reduced fuel prices, reduced housing prices, and actual real increases of wages?
            Fertility WENT DOWN.
            You simply have no idea what you are talking about.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Saudis do not have free housing amf Kuwait only provides housing support to low income people. The Median US house price did not go down between 2016-2020.
            And housing had already been on a downward trend before 2016 and was flattened out at 1.78 between 2018 to 2020. Wages did not go up between 2016 to 2020.
            >The current spike in housing prices is because between 2020 and 2023 North America had record setting levels of people buying homes.
            Yes that was because of the 2019 pandemic. Home ownership also saw a "spike" that went right back down.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >affordable housing/food/tuition/gas.
            Again, there is ZERO evidence that the fertility decline that has been ongoing for 60 years is because of family finances. Even nations like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait where a majority of the actual citizens have high inceome, free education, free medical care, AND FREE HOUSING has seen the same sharp fertility decline!
            >Rent and housing
            The current spike in housing prices is because between 2020 and 2023 North America had record setting levels of people buying homes. This is a temporary bubble already reversing with rents already dropping.
            It won't help fertility.
            In 2016-2020 when the US has reduced fuel prices, reduced housing prices, and actual real increases of wages?
            Fertility WENT DOWN.
            You simply have no idea what you are talking about.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All of this blabbering is irrelevant.
            Decreasing fertility rates are proportional with urbanisation. Kids are an asset if you have land and live farming, and a burden if you need to give them formal education. Whenever you are directly poor or rich is not what matters here. Modern people can't afford kids not because kida are expensive on their own, but because the standard of living that has to be met for what we see as good development of the child are so high. If we could still treat children as just cheap workers it would not be an issue.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Only to an extent. The various theories on WHY fertility is declining can't figure out if fertility declines starting with a desire to urbanize or if the desire to urbanize starts wtih fertility decline. Either way, rural fertility decline is real and just as bad
            >https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/padr.12220
            l;dr: even farmers that technically need more kids aren't having them.
            > the standard of living that has to be met for what we see as good development of the child are so high
            This does seem to be a huge factor in fertility decline - until rather recently children were NOT seen as "luxury goods" OR "productive goods" - they had a very different "value" to people. The Modernist Materialist belief that "kids used to be farm hands now they aren't valuable as workers" is very literally a core part of WHY fertility is declining.
            They is why the subcultures that retain healthy fertility share certain traits, the main one NOT viewing children as either labor or a luxury good.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You can't deny these conscious beings the full human experience just because there's statistically more men on the right end of the iq bell curve than women or because they can't build muscle like men can.

      kek, the "full human experience" is steaming dog-shit. We would be doing them a favor by figuring out some way to prevent female babies from ever being concieved..

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just tell him to touch grass. You can't convince someone that women can be intelligent and capable unless they've never met intelligent and capable woman. Chances are though that even he has and his ignorance made him think he was better than them anyway.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This post is all fricked up because I'm high right now, frick, point still stands

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Telling him to touch grass is not going to help me understand what women have to offer in this world besides prolonging the human race (a bad thing).

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It absolutely will because this is a terminally online argument that we shouldn't need to have but we do because people lose their frame of reference for normal perceptions and behaviors when they are online all day arguing about why women have nothing to offer.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not even trying to be hostile, I seriously need something to say (and frankly something to think for myself) when the subject of whether women have anything over men comes up. I know you think it shouldn't even be brought up but unlike most zoomers. I can't live my entire life filled with cognitive dissonance.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Read some Russian literature like Anna Karenina or The Brothers Karamazov. There are brutally honest depictions of women ranging from BPD bawds to pure childlike tradcons, you will find everything you need to know.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Classic literature is really underrated. I read two chapters of Pride & Prejudice and it explained incels better than anyone on here could.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Right? It should be mandatory reading. I guess it is or was, but good literature is being replaced by gay contemporary stuff these days.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >besides prolonging the human race (a bad thing)
        NTA but this underlying assertion is unjustified. You ought to flesh this out, because moral bad and good are by definition different from a thing being "values neutral", the default state of something lacking any moral weight.

        Asserting "prolonging the human race is a bad thing" therefore demands justification why there's a negative moral weight there.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Very, very shitty bait, OP.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's nice. Care to say what women have over men?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >hurr durr REEEEEEE!
        FTFY
        Women have
        >higher pain tolerance; better sense of balance; higher resistance to infection; higher resistance to cancer; better ability to recognize non-verbal emotional and social cues; more precise color vision; sharper and more discerning sense of smell; live longer
        All you are doing is proving that you aren't just a shitty troll, but that you've never had a GF

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ok. I don't see how those things are very useful in a well-run and pragmatic society. Maybe "better ability to recognize emotional and social cues" but that's also their downfall in many situations.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >"better ability to recognize emotional and social cues"
            When?!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            idk, seems kind of unfalsifiable to me.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Sure, sure, sure, women OBVIOUSLY have innate value, subjective value, as well as objective advantages over men BUT I AM STILL RIGHT! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
            You've never had the courage to ask a woman out, have you?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If women don't die they can do their jobs longer.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Women also fair better at high altitude, they're generally more resilient in all aspects.
          They need less calories so survive famines better

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your mom

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cause he straight and not gay.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >better stay-at-homes
    That's simply not true.
    RICHER families tend to be better stay at home parents and the majority of stay at home dads are rich. Control for that and women are better stay at home parents.
    OP, your terrible anti-natalist "I hate women because they won't touch my PP" whining is rather sad

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >OP, your terrible anti-natalist "I hate women because they won't touch my PP" whining is rather sad

      I know ad-hominem is the "name of the game" on this website, but it will never prove your point superior to mine. Women are useless. I'm not going to inform you whether I'm single or married (or how many times I've had sex) because that gives credence to your worthless ad-hominem.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I know ad-hominem
        There was no ad hominem you semi-iterate ignoramus.
        To be an ad hominem you must REPLACE an argument or point with ONLY an insult.
        I used a fact to prove you wrong and added an insult.
        You are not just a bitter virgin, you have delusions of being educated.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >To be an ad hominem you must REPLACE an argument or point with ONLY an insult.

          You just made that up. The inventors of the various logical fallacies didn't make that distinction. The fact of the matter is that you're wasting everyone's time calling me an incel when that has nothing to do with the conversation.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't even know what a logical fallacy is
            FTFY
            >The inventors of the various logical fallacies didn't make that distinction
            Yes.
            They did.
            Indeed the use of formal logic requires that an formal argument is being made.
            >you're wasting everyone's time calling me an incel
            I have never called you an incel.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I have never called you an incel.

            ah, I see, you're just a troll. I knew I shouldn't have taken you seriously. Despite being somewhat successful with women in my life I still believe they are a heinous filthy creature not worthy of life, and you have done nothing to curb that belief.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you're just a troll
            No. I am someone that knows that the term 'ad hominem' means.
            > I shouldn't have taken you seriously
            You didn't. You pretended that words don't have meaning, you lied and said other people didn't respond to you, and you tried to move the goalposts on a conversation.
            > I still believe they are a heinous filthy creature not worthy of life, and you have done nothing to curb that belief.
            Since you can't be bothered to take 2 minutes to look up a term you repeated misuse I'm pretty sure you are one of:
            1) Too stupid to change your mind
            2) Too stupid to change your mind
            3) Both 1 and 2

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This entire post is still talking about ad hominem. I believe you are latching onto this "mistake" I made in order to steer the conversation away from women.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I believe you are latching onto this "mistake" I made in order to steer the conversation away from women.
            False.
            There are at least 6 people ITT.
            I am pointing out your total ignorance of logic and misuse of terms, how you refuse to admit that your question has been answered multiple times, and how you refuse to admit error.
            Plenty of other people are proving you are wrong about women, they don't need my assistance.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >feminists
            so you don't know what that word means, either?

            >I am a liar. So what?
            I find it funny because you started with a lie and just continue them

            STILL not talking about why artificial wombs shouldn't be the top priority of scientists everywhere.

            STILL focused on the conversation makeup of the thread instead of the meat-and-potatoes.

            Are you a woman by any chance?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            STILL pretending your question wasn't answered multiple times.
            STILL crying about being proven wrong.
            STILL seething that no girl will touch your pp.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            OP
            >wimmenz are evil and stupid and bad and dumb
            Also OP
            >all these people that know more than me, caught me lying, and answered my question must be WIMMENZ!!!!!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >all these people that know more than me
            Yeah, they know more than me about logical fallacies I guess, but they still can't convince me about women

            >caught me lying
            has nothing to do with women. I didn't even try to hide it past a few posts. Some lie that was. Definitely worth bringing up over and over.

            >answered my question must be WIMMENZ!!!!!

            yeah, those "WIMMMMENNZZ" can we talk about them?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I refuse to change my mind. I am a liar.
            FTFY

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How ad-hominem normally works.

            “The sky appears blue due to how light reflects in the atmosphere.”

            “That’s not true you color-blind idiot.”

            What’s going on here.

            “Women have these objective advantages to men, you beta-incel.”

            “No, they don’t, you’re just using a logical fallacy!”

            See the difference is one scenario, the argument disappears with the insult. In the other, the argument is just as strong without it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm not going to inform you whether I'm single or married (or how many times I've had sex)
        we all know you are a KHHV incel, OP

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          heh, maybe.

          But you were already proven wrong about women.
          Remember?

          I don't see how dogmatic claims referring to the mediocre "superiority" of certain traits of women is "proof" that they deserve to live and exist amongst men. NO ONE is even trying to convince me. Except for

          Bitches and pussy are what make men great. If they never had hot women to impress they would never had done shit. Losers would make excuses that "oh it doesn't matter anyway" and die alone. But not with a "no pussy life" on the line. Literally no one wants to die a virgin. Nerds, jocks, sexists, incels. Everyone. Even the gay still crave female approval.
          >muh eugenics
          The greatest men need manpower and cannon folder. Weak and even dumb men need to exist. No one here invented shit or fought in a war. But if we died people would still be crying.
          >mah robots
          Lol. There would be no robots if the desire for sex didn't exist. Nothing your friend has if men of the past didn't improve themselves for a woman.

          . this guy made a bit of sense with that reply.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Control for that and women are better stay at home parents.

      I want to believe this is true. But the evil and nonsense they are capable of makes them not worth it in my opinion.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >evil and nonsense
        translation
        >they won't touch my pp so I hate them

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How am supposed to respond to this worthless ad-hominem? I'm trying to learn what women have over men.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            NTA
            an ad hominem can only exist if it replaces an argument.
            You made no argument.
            the reply was not an attempt to make an argument.
            You stated your opinion.
            You were insulted for ti.
            Stop using terms you don't understand, it only proves you are uneducated.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, you're wrong, ad hominem is actually a made up term with a general meaning and not what you decide it means. The fact of the matter is that he took away from the conversation to insult me. Also since you're NTA I assume you're new. Would you like to tell me something that women have over men?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >ad hominem is actually a made up term
            Yes, but it has a rather specific meaning
            >he took away from the conversation to insult m
            False. He made his point FIRST then insulted you.
            You are very bad at this,

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You are very bad at this,
            maybe, you're right. Care to explain to me why women haven't been shoved into cages at a societal level by now. Sorry if I'm not as good at "debating" as you'd like me to be. I'm trying to make points and learn, not necessarily win something.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I know you keep bringing up that ITS NOT AD HOMINEM BECAUSE HE DID A THING FIRST!!! But it's obvious that it distracts and takes away from the convo.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Sure, I misused the term but he was MEEEEAAAAN TO MEEEEE!
            FTFY

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yes, I supposedly misused the term, sorry. Wow, really wished I hadn't misused the term. Maybe then the thread would have stayed on the subject of women.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But you were already proven wrong about women.
            Remember?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm trying to learn what women have over men.
            A blatant lie.
            You ADMITTED these are true

            Men can't have babies and aren't hot

            >hurr durr REEEEEEE!
            FTFY
            Women have
            >higher pain tolerance; better sense of balance; higher resistance to infection; higher resistance to cancer; better ability to recognize non-verbal emotional and social cues; more precise color vision; sharper and more discerning sense of smell; live longer
            All you are doing is proving that you aren't just a shitty troll, but that you've never had a GF

            and admitted you can only WANT TO not admit this

            >better stay-at-homes
            That's simply not true.
            RICHER families tend to be better stay at home parents and the majority of stay at home dads are rich. Control for that and women are better stay at home parents.
            OP, your terrible anti-natalist "I hate women because they won't touch my PP" whining is rather sad

            You have had three anons PROVE that women have/can do things men cannot.
            It made you whine and cry.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Become a father.
        See for yourself. There's a lot of things men are better at in terms of parenting.
        But in general when it comes to getting all the organizational and logistical shit in order. The doctors appointments, the registrations, the socialization, and a million 9ther things, men are useless.

        My kids would not be trained or disciplined properly without me, starting with sleep training. Women are useless at sleep training. And I pick the best toys (entertainment and education wise. Wife pretty much buys books and stuffies).

        If it weren't for my wife, these kids wouldn't make a single appointment, they wouldn't be on the grid, wouldn't be well socialized and so on. And this isn't just me, there are fricking meme loads of content about how this is an extremely consistent truth.
        We both have jobs. Women are not useless.

        Also if you wanna ask incel God, Jordan Peterson, even he'll explain to you why women dominate the medical field.

        Basically if you're a male you're specialized. If you're a math king, you're probably also socially moronic if not autistic. If you're a woman with any kind of higher educational aptitude, likely you're also extremely well socialized and score high in agreeableness and social aptitude, a combination of which has plenty of it's own advantages.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bitches and pussy are what make men great. If they never had hot women to impress they would never had done shit. Losers would make excuses that "oh it doesn't matter anyway" and die alone. But not with a "no pussy life" on the line. Literally no one wants to die a virgin. Nerds, jocks, sexists, incels. Everyone. Even the gay still crave female approval.
    >muh eugenics
    The greatest men need manpower and cannon folder. Weak and even dumb men need to exist. No one here invented shit or fought in a war. But if we died people would still be crying.
    >mah robots
    Lol. There would be no robots if the desire for sex didn't exist. Nothing your friend has if men of the past didn't improve themselves for a woman.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I got a real question. Why are racists usually relatively normal people but sexists are weak betas that are mad at society?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because the majority of racists are racist for social reasons but sexists are sexist for personal reasons.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's honestly one of the best answers I got on here.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          thank you
          I just unfortunately know too many of both types.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ask a married man what he thinks about women. Are all married men betas?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm a married man.
        I am not sexist.
        Now what?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Then you lack critical thinking and pattern recognition skills, because the women I've been around my entire life are dumber than the men I've been around my entire life.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            NTA
            you lost your own thread.
            You said here

            Ask a married man what he thinks about women. Are all married men betas?

            >Ask a married man what he thinks about women
            here a married man answered

            I'm a married man.
            I am not sexist.
            Now what?

            you moved the goalposts here

            to:
            A) Talk about your own experiences, and
            B) talk about women you know being dumb.
            AND you tossed in personal insults, what you call "ad hominems' and complain about.
            rather than admit that not all married men are sexists you continue to prove you are over-emotional and uneducated

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            this isn't a debate. I'm trying to learn why people haven't shoved women into cages by now. I believe the reason people haven't done this is because people have been brainwashed into thinking that women have some kind of value when they don't

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >this isn't a debate
            Yet you keep misusing the term 'ad hominem' as if it WERE a debate.
            >I'm trying to learn why people haven't shoved women into cages by now
            Because, unlike you, 99.9% of men do not fear women.
            >I believe the reason people haven't done this is because people have been brainwashed into thinking that women have some kind of value when they don't
            I do love, and I mean LOVE, that you have dropped all pretense and are just admitted that you lied when you wrote

            https://i.imgur.com/h7wo7fP.jpeg

            His claim was that "Women are useless. They have no traits over men, and even men are better stay-at-homes. (statistically and on average blah blah blah)."

            I thought that it would be easy to smash his arguments into dust but when I started thinking about it, I couldn't come up with a retort to this idea that women are useless.

            HELP!!

            >Trying to defend women to a sexist
            Thanks for admitting that you're a fricking liar.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I do love, and I mean LOVE, that you have dropped all pretense and are just admitted that you lied when you wrote

            Yes. I did that so my post wouldn't get taken down by jannies. Why do you find that so funny? Also. I'm not afraid of women, I think they are worthless.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I am a liar. So what?
            I find it funny because you started with a lie and just continue them

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >ad hominem is actually a made up term
            Yes, but it has a rather specific meaning
            >he took away from the conversation to insult m
            False. He made his point FIRST then insulted you.
            You are very bad at this,

            How ad-hominem normally works.

            “The sky appears blue due to how light reflects in the atmosphere.”

            “That’s not true you color-blind idiot.”

            What’s going on here.

            “Women have these objective advantages to men, you beta-incel.”

            “No, they don’t, you’re just using a logical fallacy!”

            See the difference is one scenario, the argument disappears with the insult. In the other, the argument is just as strong without it.

            are you feminists switching to talking about ad hominem and just trying to make me look bad instead of talking about the hard truth of women?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >feminists
            so you don't know what that word means, either?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're not going to win the thread by splitting hairs on everything I type. Actually you might, because low-brow tactics usually do draw the attention of the audience. It's still annoying however. I don't care what your definition of feminism is by the way because that's one where pretty much anyone you ask will have a different definition.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            NTA
            >Being educated is low-brow
            >pointing out someone is lying is low-brow
            >pointing out someone is misdirecting is low-brow
            You already "lost" this thread way back when multiple people proved what women have over men.
            You just cried about it and started whining about "muh ad hominem" to try to shut people up.
            That didn't work out for you, did it?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Still waiting for that proof. I'll wait forever because there is none. Even if I were to believe everything those first few anons said. It's not enough reason to keep parasites around in society.

            So just to be clear. Even if the anons that defended women are correct. Women are still so useless (net negative more like), that it wouldn't matter anyway.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >All of my posts boil down to I hate women. No amount of facts can change this because no woman will touch my pp.
            FTFY

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            hey serious question. Lets say I'm not an incel, but I still hold to misogyny. Then what?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Then you're just another bitter low-value man who will be dead 3 months before anyone notices

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >no amount of facts

            WHAT FRICKEN FACTS????

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    women are more emotionally caring and concerned. theyre really nice to talk to about problems and emotions. they make you feel listened to and at least in that moment, cared for. they have a genetic drive to be motherly.

    USUALLY.

    some are lunatics. but for a normal woman, theyre generally sweet.
    men aren't sweet. they're fun, intelligent, strong, useful, funny. but not sweet.
    if your a person with emotional depth, thatll have value to you and tou can appreciate women for that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >emotionally caring
      This is one of the reasons female doctors have better patient outcomes than male
      Single women also give more to charity than single men
      Women are more likely to be environmentally friendly too

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    alright, I've got to get going. But I learned something from this thread. Whiteknights are the scum of the earth. You don't even know what you're defending because you've been brainwashed into thinking that women are worth defending. But you have no substance, you've spend the entire thread talking about my misleading OP and ad hominem instead of telling me about women. That's how I know you're brainwashed, you have nothing solid to defend women on. Only insults towards someone who thinks differently than you. Keep being redditors. Keep being brainwashed. I'll keep voting right-wing, living in my white, morally traditional town and enjoying life while hating and despising women for purely logical reasons. Bye homosexuals!

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gay men are better stay at homes specifically, not straight men. I agree with him there— that gay men are god’s blessing

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I couldn't come up with a retort to this idea that women are useless.
    Every single person I have ever encountered that says this are morbidly obese neckbeards who are useless by working meaningless jobs or NEET. All they do during their down time is consume media. Don't bother: they will never change their mind because they're narcissists with zero self-awareness. Pic is literally almost all of them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's more than just that
      they are stuck on an idealised revised idea of the past before feminism 'ruined' everything
      They think back in the day all a man had to do was work a job and occasionally do some DIY and for that he was rewarded with a loving wife and kids who he was expected to 'protect' (but generally never had to). The wife would take care of his home, his social life, his cooking and cleaning and possibly budget and she would be grateful for the roof over her head because unable to work, vote etc she would be completely dependant on him for his money in the same way he was dependant on her for keeping his home life in order.
      See https://www.columbia.edu/~sss31/rainbow/wife.html

      But now women can earn degrees and work too and are actually excelling more and more academically than men. Women can afford to be picky and are much less impressed by a guy who works but then sits on his ass 90% of the time outside of that.
      So they're projecting their own fear of being useless onto women. If they pretend women are only useful because holes they can feel better about it

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God this shit is moronic in so many ways that it's genuinely pissing me off. Let me try to go point by point.
    >and even men are better stay-at-homes. (statistically and on average blah blah blah)."
    This is so insanely moronic. I just..I just...WHY DOES HE THINK THIS IS? Tell your coworker that it's also true than men make better single parents, so a single dad is better than a single mom. Why? BECAUSE MEN CAN'T FRICKING GET PREGNANT! A stay at home dad and a single dad are both very good for a very similar reason. If you're choosing to be either, it's usually because you have enough support and resources to do so effectively. A woman can't decide to just leave a pregnant man with a baby because men can't get pregnant.

    Second, anyone that compares one group of people like this to another only does so because they hate one of the groups, and you can test this in real time. Why does your coworker put such a heavy emphasis on women? If the goal is to focus solely on having the most "useful" people, then shouldn't we find the most useful men and women, and then kill the useless men and women? Watch your coworker squirm to justify why women still shouldn't be kept around.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >men are better stay-at-homes. (statistically and on average blah blah blah)."
    What does this even mean? Men are notoriously bad at homemaking if there is anybody present to actually evaluate the quality of their job. They spend like twice as little on every chore, a three times less hours in a week on housekeeping, which logically means they are doing it all half assed because you dont need stregth to do them, just dexterity and women actually have higher dexterity on average, their bodies are more plastic. Not that this is a very important thing I note.

    Males main weakness biologically is however social cohesion and diplomacy. Women are the glue that ties society together and mediates inner conflicts of social circles. Take a look at the picture and try to think which side would you prefer to interact with if you ignore the word "male/female" in the equation.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have some points of disagreement with this, but I don't want to fight with you in a thread of united misogynists.

      Considering women don't believe in God anymore, don't remain virgin till marriage, and don't have the life goal of having a husband and children ; you are now out of all arguments.
      Women are worthless, and all those videos of people interviewing women on the streets, and the women being so proud to act and speak like moronic prostitutes, reinforces this sentiment.
      Bye

      >and all those videos of people interviewing women on the streets, and the women being so proud to act and speak like moronic prostitutes, reinforces this sentiment.
      Conveniently doesn't have an issue with the moronic men because he has no logical argument, just hates women and is desperate to justify his hatred.

      Find examples of loving and hardworking women, ez

      They can't do that because that might mean that this isn't a men and women issue, rather a ""useful"" and ""useless"" person issue. Keep in mind these people aren't intellectually curious about exploring this. They just hate women and want to justify it.

      They are better at managing money. Thats why onlyfan is only successful for women, guys are morons who pay girls to see them in swimsuit

      Source? Are women actually better at managing money? Not that this matters because, to reiterate, most people here just want to justify their misogyny, but I'd still be wary of making false factual claims.

      women cooperate more. Men betray eachother constantly which is why their lives are worse.

      Don't focus on the men v women aspect of this. They will always find a bullshit angle.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Considering women don't believe in God anymore, don't remain virgin till marriage, and don't have the life goal of having a husband and children ; you are now out of all arguments.
    Women are worthless, and all those videos of people interviewing women on the streets, and the women being so proud to act and speak like moronic prostitutes, reinforces this sentiment.
    Bye

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Find examples of loving and hardworking women, ez

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are better at managing money. Thats why onlyfan is only successful for women, guys are morons who pay girls to see them in swimsuit

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    women cooperate more. Men betray eachother constantly which is why their lives are worse.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ask him if he's secretly gay.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You couldn't come up with a compelling counter-point because his point wasn't compelling.
    It was very generic and broad stroking statements that doesn't have any substance to them.
    It basically boils down to "ya huh!" and "nuh uh!"

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