What do people mean when they say "girls go after guys who don't give a frick about them"?

What do people mean when they say "girls go after guys who don't give a frick about them"? Does it mean you just shouldn't be needy/desperate or you should literally ignore women who you find attractive?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Being need or desperate only works if you're reasonably attractive and you have a borderline yandere after you
    Then the pair of you can feed off your toxicity and self destruct

    For healthy woman (lol healthy people are rare), you need to be able to communicate openly, but begging for her attention is going to be a turn off. You need to be confident in yourself and how you live your life.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not sure how this makes sense. So you can be king of the world but a woman is turned off from someone being interested in them? Thats fricking dumb. I hate women now.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is a massive difference between being interested and being a clingy whinger.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >So you can be king of the world but a woman is turned off from someone being interested in them?
        Yes unironically. Because you can't really be king if your captivated by her, atleast that's how she sees it. This is why all marriages go to shit, no matter how great and awesome you show yourself to be she will always resent the fact that she can easily have you. This is why if you ever get married (DO NOT RECOMMEND) you should have multiple wives, this way you keep them all in competition with one another = love

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Is this the key to common law states that outlaw poligamy??

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >> needy/desperate

    No. You should never do that regardless

    >> ignore women you find attractive

    Only if she finds you attractive too

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing you do or don’t do matters if they don’t find you physically attractive. If you’re not physical attractive you’re literally invisible whether you do this or that.

    It only matters if an attractive guy is conveying through his behavior that he isn’t needy and has options. Women like that shit

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're full of shit. Women go for guys that are there for them emotionally. I know it sounds hoaky but women care a lot about interpersonal connection. Status and shit matters too and women will be less likely to show intrest if X y and z (autism or this and that) are factors racial bias etc etc but you have to focus on the lotus of control. That's something my mom told me. She's a psychologist. It's like my life is kinda falling apart rn maybe and I might have to move back in with my family and I honestly just wish I'd been more there. Women do not dig men who "don't give a frick about them". Do not attempt this.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Women go for guys that are there for them emotionally
      Many do, but not all.
      The ones you want to be involved with should be like that.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most or the bulk do and the ones who don't you're never going to have anything stable with anyway.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >lotus of control
      Locus of control

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ok dude idfk. I work dead ends.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >That's something my mom told me.
      Lol. My mom also told me I'm handsome yet here I am.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No they don't, that's what they say they want but chads aren't there for females emotionally and they still get the most pussy while simps who are there for them emotionally just get used

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What do people mean when they say "girls go after guys who don't give a frick about them"? Does it mean you just shouldn't be needy/desperate or you should literally ignore women who you find attractive?
    Not that you should ignore them, just that you should treat them like you don't give a frick about them, you know? "Do I want her around today? Meh, I don't give a frick." "Do I want to answer her phone call right now? Meh, frick that, I'm busy jacking off." That sorta thing

    Now I'd like to point out that this isn't exactly the best attitude to have, but it does often end up "working" lol. Of course it's not something you can really fake too well, so this is kinda all pointless

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's cope. all these dating strategies only work if you already pass the looks threshold. if you do and a girl gives you the time of day it's hard to frick up unless you're a total sperg

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >all these dating strategies only work if you already pass the looks threshold
      Maybe but the looks threshold is so low that it's barely worth mentioning

      It means They are biologicaly attracted to emotionaly uninvested men.

      It doesn't need to be rational.

      Okay then WHY is that what they're attracted to? Don't cop out and use "biology" as an answer, give a real fricking reason

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's literaly irrational biology.
        Natural selection has observable motivation pressure.
        Sexual selection does not.
        It drove Darwin mad trying to fit it into natural selection.
        Its literaly just irrational.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          All horseshit. Come back when you have a real reason

          >WHY
          It's attempt to form a strategy to handle realities inherent dependance on chance.
          There is none, therefore irrational.

          >It's attempt to form a strategy to handle realities inherent dependance on chance.
          You lost me

          >but the looks threshold is so low that it's barely worth mentioning

          how old are you? it's insanely high among zoomers

          >how old are you? it's insanely high among zoomers
          Well I'm 30 so I guess there's that but I'm not sure I believe you. I know very few zoomers though..

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >WHY
        It's attempt to form a strategy to handle realities inherent dependance on chance.
        There is none, therefore irrational.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >but the looks threshold is so low that it's barely worth mentioning

        how old are you? it's insanely high among zoomers

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This
          Sub 8 is literaly invisible

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            older millenials are legit boomers when it comes to understanding modern dating dynamics. zoomers and zillenials live in an entirely different reality

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is only true in the delusional minds of shy internet obsessed zoomie shutins. Everyone in real life knows somebody who's not a looker but has a cute girlfriend, you literally have to just go outside and walk the street and you'll see it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All horseshit. Come back when you have a real reason

            [...]
            >It's attempt to form a strategy to handle realities inherent dependance on chance.
            You lost me

            [...]
            >how old are you? it's insanely high among zoomers
            Well I'm 30 so I guess there's that but I'm not sure I believe you. I know very few zoomers though..

            no. 2/3 of young men are single according to most recent statistics and this seems correct in my experience. I'm doing MechEng and the vast majority of my class are incels, most are virgins too. you guys have no idea how bad it is seriously. it's societal collapse levels of bad if it doesn't change and I'm no chud waiting for le west to collapse. it's really awful out there for us

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >in doing MechEng
            Have you perhapse considered that the reason behind this is that the male to female ratio is like 7 to 1 in that environment. I know for a fact that it's not there looks because I've seen it with my own eyes how ugly men can pull attractive woman.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            of course I have, STEM in general is incel central compared to the humanities, and while my specific environment might be uniquely bad, the general trend holds true in my experience

            I'm not saying an average man can't pull a stunner if he's a social butterfly and charmer, but the focus on looks becomes greater with every generation. my generation might be the most aesthetics-obsessed generation in history ( you see this in young men too btw with their weird main character syndrome)

            the more dating is confined to the apps, the less your intangible positive factors come into play because you already get filtered out before you can show them. a millenial could get his foot in the door by being charming or funny, this has become infinitely harder for us due to the nature of modern dating and the gender dynamics at play here

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >STEM in general is incel central compared to the humanities
            Yes, it was a terrible example thank you for owning upto it
            >I'm not saying an average man can't pull a stunner if he's a social butterfly and charmer
            So your basically admitting that attraction has less to do with looks, and more with those other things (not that i even agree that those are the best traits for attraction).
            >my generation might be the most aesthetics-obsessed generation in history
            Yet I still see sexy zoomer girls with ugly frick millennial men, and really good looking zoomer guys with la creatura woman.
            >the more dating is confined to the apps, the less your intangible positive factors come into play
            My simple solution to this is to go outside and meet woman in real life. You can still do that ya know. Dating apps don't teach you the masculine feminine dynamic, that requires real life experience. Ofcourse woman are going to have ridiculous standards in dating sites if they're the prize and have multiple men competing for their coochie (the male to female ratio on these apps is very large).

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's not a terrible example in the sense that propotionally there were always more incels in STEM compared to the humanities, but that doesn't disprove the overarching trend. it was always bad, now it's much worse

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Single
            >shut in virgins
            not the same

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lets be honest here, the vast majority of them are incel and not chads hopping from one partner to the other. zoomers are the most sexless generation ever

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >CHAD OR INCEL< NO IN BETWEEN! REEEEEEE!
            Grow up.
            >zoomers are the most sexless generation ever
            FFS.
            Has the average age of men and women losing virginity been going up for 25 years?
            Yes.
            Has the average lifetime sexual partner count for young people been going down for 25 years?
            Yes.
            After a full generation of young people being LESS prmiscuous, MORE prudent, and so forth Zoomers are almost, ALMOST, to the same levels of virginity retention and lifetime sexual partner count as...
            ...people born 1928 - 1945.
            The Silent Generation.
            All you are witnessing is the end of the weird anomaly called the Sexual Revolution. A reversion back to the norm of about 1860 - 1960.
            >
            ZOMFG! MODERN 20 YEAR OLDS AREN'T AS DEGENERATE AS BOOMERS! IT'S THE END OF THE WOOOOOOOORLD!
            is funny af.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the funny thing is that you think this is the result of some new form of prudishness and not gender and dating dynamics being completetly out of whack shows how disconnected you are friend

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the funny thing is that you think this is the result of some new form of prudishness
            I think its fricking hilarious that you think 'not acting like a degenerate boomer' is "prudishness".
            >gender and dating dynamics being completetly out of whack
            Friendo, 1 in 3 Zoomer men aged 26-28 are *married* already.
            They are excluded from that '2/3rd of young men are single' survey because they are, you know, MARRIED.
            Further, the percentage of young people who think sex outside marriage is morally wrong has been growing for years. The GSS and Pew both agree on that point.
            So - it isn't just "dysfunction', there IS a vast shift in attitudes and morals going on.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >MODERN 20 YEAR OLDS AREN'T AS DEGENERATE AS BOOMERS
            This just isn't true at all. Zoomer chicks all eat ass and shove dragon dildos up their buttholes while they aheago. They just don't want YOU to see it.

            >STEM in general is incel central compared to the humanities
            Yes, it was a terrible example thank you for owning upto it
            >I'm not saying an average man can't pull a stunner if he's a social butterfly and charmer
            So your basically admitting that attraction has less to do with looks, and more with those other things (not that i even agree that those are the best traits for attraction).
            >my generation might be the most aesthetics-obsessed generation in history
            Yet I still see sexy zoomer girls with ugly frick millennial men, and really good looking zoomer guys with la creatura woman.
            >the more dating is confined to the apps, the less your intangible positive factors come into play
            My simple solution to this is to go outside and meet woman in real life. You can still do that ya know. Dating apps don't teach you the masculine feminine dynamic, that requires real life experience. Ofcourse woman are going to have ridiculous standards in dating sites if they're the prize and have multiple men competing for their coochie (the male to female ratio on these apps is very large).

            >meet woman in real life
            lol. Where?

            >As soon as you point all of this out, the smarter ones start to get redpilled, but 4/5 will just turn their brains off as soon as you suggest they're in the wrong.

            yes. but it's also a generational thing. (older) millenials genuinely live in a different reality when it comes to stuff like this. when they offer advise like cold approach or hitting up girls at the bar I can only laugh. they don't how many girls whip their phone out and embarrass you on tiktok for tens of thousands of people or more. I'm not saying this is the common reaction but I've seen so many videos of that happening that the juice reaallly isn't worth the squeeze

            is right, approaching modern women in public is a surefire way to embarrass yourself. Even if the girl you're interested in would find you attractive and frick you otherwise, they get more clout from their dumb ass clique for acting like you're disgusting.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >where?
            Cafes, campuses, malls, parks, gym(not recommended), literally anywhere.
            >approaching modern women in public is a surefire way to embarrass yourself
            Damn really? Because I approached something 10 - 20 girls on my campus just two days ago and still no embarrassing tiktok clip.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            this homie is still cold approaching in 2024. that's good for you bro, but don't try to act as if that's a genuine tactic that has any success unless you're incredibly handsome. you're rolling the dice btw, one of my mates got into trouble for approaching girls like a moron and almost got kicked out for sexual intimidation

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >as if its a genuine tactic
            100x better than dating apps, or trying to get cushy with a friend group.
            >approaching girls like a moron and almost got kicked out for sexual intimidation
            Your friend has a skill issue. Neither me nor my friends have ever had this problem and we've been doing this for years. I honestly think that the issue with 90% of men who approach is that they try and play it off like it's "oh im just asking for directions", some real pussy shit. If your actually direct than you will never encounter a problem.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            then you and your friends must be straight from the runway of milan because no one I know irl has had any success whatsoever from cold approaching

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because no one does it anymore, homosexual. NTA but I used to do it during the 2013-16 pick up craze but was a teenager and at least got a date or two or some numbers. That “practice” paid off and I can 50/50 get laid talking to girls passing by on the street, and I know for a fact anyone can too. These girls are easy, just don’t live in a shithole or do more than your skill level requires and allows. Think of it as practice till just telling a girl you had to stop her cause she’s cute doesn’t cause you insurmountable anxiety

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you a bong?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A what? Shut the frick up and start facing reality, scumbag
            Obsession with other dudes and what their qualities reflect in you spells your doom

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Jesus what the frick? I just asked if your a brit, I'm not the other guy

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I’m not a Brit , I spit on that insult

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ok taugh guy, you made your point, remember your on NSFFW not a bar. You can take a joke right?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not British, don’t live in the UK I live in NA but I guarantee this works anywhere that isn’t Saudi Arabia, and even then lol

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm

            >as if its a genuine tactic
            100x better than dating apps, or trying to get cushy with a friend group.
            >approaching girls like a moron and almost got kicked out for sexual intimidation
            Your friend has a skill issue. Neither me nor my friends have ever had this problem and we've been doing this for years. I honestly think that the issue with 90% of men who approach is that they try and play it off like it's "oh im just asking for directions", some real pussy shit. If your actually direct than you will never encounter a problem.

            >where?
            Cafes, campuses, malls, parks, gym(not recommended), literally anywhere.
            >approaching modern women in public is a surefire way to embarrass yourself
            Damn really? Because I approached something 10 - 20 girls on my campus just two days ago and still no embarrassing tiktok clip.

            Suit yourself friend. If you don't want to I can't force you to, but you don't have any regret seeing a cute girl walk by the streets or to your classes and just gawking and letting her getaway? If not then that's great for you

            this guy bro. I already know what your talking about. I just asked cus the "telling a girl you had to stop her cause she’s cute" reminds me of The London day game model

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Straight from the runway of milan
            Once again this is cope. I'm average looking but granted quite tall, my friend is 5'7 and not good looking at all, and we have the exact same results. This is something you only learn through experience, which you could stand to gain from if you stop coping

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            once again, you live in a completely different reality to mine, because literally no one ( not a sinlge soul) that I know has had any success with cold approaching. the opposite is true, if you do that shit on campus it destroys your reputation

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Suit yourself friend. If you don't want to I can't force you to, but you don't have any regret seeing a cute girl walk by the streets or to your classes and just gawking and letting her getaway? If not then that's great for you

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            of course I have regret, but the alternative of being shamed by the people I have to see everyday is something that scares me, not even mentioning the actual trouble I can find myself in. I'd be more comfortable approaching women on the street tbf

            >having a different definition of being 'single'
            The study defines "single" as "they are not married, living with a partner or in a committed romantic relationship." They can't have a different definition than this

            >and increased LGBT stuff among women
            Lesbians are more likely to be single than straight women. Plus there's more gay men than lesbian women

            >but mostly hypergamy. many women are in harems without even knowing
            You're saying that there's a bunch of women calling the same dude their boyfriend? And that's happening enough to skew the results by 30%? C'mon, you can't even get away with some shit like that nowadays, what the frick you gonna do when she puts she's in a relationship with you on Facebook?

            no one uses facebook anymore bro. many girls just flock to one guy and he keeps them in rotation. is that enough to skew the result by 30%? who can say. but I'd be very wary of outright dismissing a study done by one of the most renowed fact tanks in the US famous for their rigour. and it more or less confirms to my anecdotal experience

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >no one uses facebook anymore bro
            Oh horseshit, everyone has a fricking Facebook, this "no one uses Facebook anymore" shit is a meme

            Regardless, substitute Facebook for whatever gay ass social media shit zoomers use instead then?

            >but I'd be very wary of outright dismissing a study done by one of the most renowed fact tanks in the US famous for their rigour. and it more or less confirms to my anecdotal experience
            I'm not saying they did anything wrong though. Like I said, my guess would be that the people in the study were fricking lying

            You know what they ought to study? Relationship statuses on fricking Facebook lol

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's important because facebook was more neutral and in a sense more open platform because you couldn't pull shit like that. ig or tiktok is pure unfiltered vanity. a good-looking man can hop on there and get laid 24/7 and have b***hes in rotation without any of them being the wiser

            if you go with the lying answer the question becomes one of motivation. why? it's not that people don't lie on anonymous surveys. social-desirability bias comes into play. but here? I can't see it

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it's important because facebook was more neutral and in a sense more open platform because you couldn't pull shit like that
            You talk about Facebook in the past tense but again, like half the world's population has a Facebook lol

            >ig or tiktok is pure unfiltered vanity. a good-looking man can hop on there and get laid 24/7 and have b***hes in rotation without any of them being the wiser
            Kind of different than a relationship, isn't it? Are these dudes telling girls that they're in a relationship? Doesn't seem like something you can get away with for very long

            >if you go with the lying answer the question becomes one of motivation. why? it's not that people don't lie on anonymous surveys. social-desirability bias comes into play. but here? I can't see it
            Shit, maybe b***hes think it looks bad if they're single or something?

            I really don't know either though, it's just the best explanation I could come up with. All I know is that the numbers don't add up and the typical explanations do not actually explain the shit. There's even fewer single women 30-49 years old!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I guess part of it could be this too

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          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            we don't really use facebook like that bro. maybe to stay in contact with older family members or something. most people have one but they don't use it

            maybe they're playing them or maybe there's a whole lot of wishful thinking on the girls' part? girls really can't say shit about men being simps because I've seen some genuine disturbingly deluded behaviour coming from females when it concerns attractive men

            in any case. it's a bit of an enigma. zoomers are the most sexless generation in history tho, and the dating scene is absolutely merciless to young men. those are factoids

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >we don't really use facebook like that bro. maybe to stay in contact with older family members or something. most people have one but they don't use it
            That's all anyone uses Facebook for. If you're in a relationship with someone, you change your fricking status to "in a relationship with so-and-so," though, right?

            >maybe they're playing them or maybe there's a whole lot of wishful thinking on the girls' part?
            Or maybe the girls would rather say "yeah I'm in a relationship with him!" than say that they're just frick buddies on this random Pew survey they're taking? Whereas a guy might be more apt to say "well, we've never actually said we're boyfriend or girlfriend" or "it's not like we've changed our Facebook statuses.." lol

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What reputation? See this is the thing I wish I learned when I was still a teenager.

            NO ONE gives a frick about your reputation as a guy. If you’re a guy and you have a shitty reputation I guarantee that will attract more women than you could even handle. Reputation on a college campus is something girls do and should concern themselves with, guys are out there to bone and that’s known. Just remember that every time you cared what she thought she was moaning some other dude’s name. And no this isn’t supposed to turn on the cuckolds, this is a reminder that women don’t spend half their time thinking about dudes they don’t like. They spend ALL their time on guys they do

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            baffling post

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I watch porn and think that is Real Life
            I can't imagine being as divorced from reality as you are

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I mean yeah, is anyone surprised that this is what happens after women convince each other for half a century that men are literally The Worst? And then on top of that you have social media telling all young women that they're probably bisexual at the least, but probably actually gay. And then on top of those already-shitty things, you have absurd standards of attractiveness for men in the media, so even these bisexual man-hating zoomer c**ts still expect to be with Chad Thunderwiener if they ever dare to date a man.

            As soon as you point all of this out, the smarter ones start to get redpilled, but 4/5 will just turn their brains off as soon as you suggest they're in the wrong.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >As soon as you point all of this out, the smarter ones start to get redpilled, but 4/5 will just turn their brains off as soon as you suggest they're in the wrong.

            yes. but it's also a generational thing. (older) millenials genuinely live in a different reality when it comes to stuff like this. when they offer advise like cold approach or hitting up girls at the bar I can only laugh. they don't how many girls whip their phone out and embarrass you on tiktok for tens of thousands of people or more. I'm not saying this is the common reaction but I've seen so many videos of that happening that the juice reaallly isn't worth the squeeze

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            when was the last time you had a date?
            Be specific

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            last month, why?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The word 'specific' confuses me
            FTFY.
            How did you initially meet her? When/where/how, etc.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            met her on bumble. we grabbed a coffee together and it went nowhere

            >the funny thing is that you think this is the result of some new form of prudishness
            I think its fricking hilarious that you think 'not acting like a degenerate boomer' is "prudishness".
            >gender and dating dynamics being completetly out of whack
            Friendo, 1 in 3 Zoomer men aged 26-28 are *married* already.
            They are excluded from that '2/3rd of young men are single' survey because they are, you know, MARRIED.
            Further, the percentage of young people who think sex outside marriage is morally wrong has been growing for years. The GSS and Pew both agree on that point.
            So - it isn't just "dysfunction', there IS a vast shift in attitudes and morals going on.

            1/3 is nothing, what's your point?

            >at least sometimes wrong

            doesn't mean an awful lot. such a vague criteria to differentiate on. I'd bet that 90% of those are men too

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Here is how it works
            >24 year old guy has seen a 22 year old woman on a date 4-5 times. They had sex twice. They haven't made any commitment
            >Ask the girl "Are you in a relationship?" she says "Yes"
            >Ask the guy the same thing he says "no".
            >Incels freak out '2/3rds of unmarried men aged 19-29 say they are single? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!'

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lol no. No one sees situationships as something else than what it is

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If 2/3 of men are single then 2/3 of women are single too

            Women are moronic.
            It's not about caring, what it is is that women like men that are driven, have passions and goals.
            Aggressive men seem to similar, hence why so many get with bad men. They appear to be going somewhere and that attracts them.
            The moronation comes into play when women target an ambitious man with his focus on his life. Meaning that she is not the main focus, this comes off as a man that doesn't care. Why? Because in their heads it's like the man outright saying "you don't matter as much as I do". The reality is that sentiment is true. No woman is worth being placed ahead of yourself. If you don't care for yourself, if you neglect yourself, you'll end up neglecting them. Women have no object permanence or understanding of delayed gratification. They want you to shift your focus and passion to them. They expect you to make them your focus. When you don't? You're an butthole. They can't seem to understand that men will work and build something for them to enjoy, many a little later. If you look at dating profiles or even what some women say, there's at times a line of "I want a man who's ambitious, hardworking and goal-oriented but not a workaholic, or too busy."

            Tldr women are moronic.

            >"I want a man who's ambitious, hardworking and goal-oriented but not a workaholic, or too busy."
            That's just code for "I want a rich guy who will spoil me" btw

            mens and womens standards are radically different though. it's incomparable. I'm not guilting them for being that way, it's makes evolutionary sense but you really can't equate men and women in that way. if given the opportunity women will opt for quality men for quantity

            >if given the opportunity women will opt for quality men for quantity
            Not even remotely true

            >the funny thing is that you think this is the result of some new form of prudishness
            I think its fricking hilarious that you think 'not acting like a degenerate boomer' is "prudishness".
            >gender and dating dynamics being completetly out of whack
            Friendo, 1 in 3 Zoomer men aged 26-28 are *married* already.
            They are excluded from that '2/3rd of young men are single' survey because they are, you know, MARRIED.
            Further, the percentage of young people who think sex outside marriage is morally wrong has been growing for years. The GSS and Pew both agree on that point.
            So - it isn't just "dysfunction', there IS a vast shift in attitudes and morals going on.

            >Further, the percentage of young people who think sex outside marriage is morally wrong has been growing for years
            What is the world coming to? I guess I blame the Muslims?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If 2/3 of men are single then 2/3 of women are single too

            no it's worse. much worse

            "Pew Research Center found that a whopping 63 percent of men in their twenties are single, compared to only 34 percent of women. The study revealed that men in their twenties are no longer pursuing relationships like they once were"

            deluded millenials on here will think everything is going swimmingly tho

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >"Pew Research Center found that a whopping 63 percent of men in their twenties are single, compared to only 34 percent of women. The study revealed that men in their twenties are no longer pursuing relationships like they once were"
            Yeah yeah, I've seen the study but the study is WRONG. It's literally impossible for those numbers to be accurate, they just don't add up. And no, it's not that young b***hes are dating older men-- the numbers show the same trend for 30s and 40s too. The study is just blatantly wrong, or rather, flawed. Now what the flaw was, I'm not sure. People lying, I guess?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            why would men lie about being single, why would women lie about being in a relationship?

            hypergamy, having a different definition of being 'single', and increased LGBT stuff among women. but mostly hypergamy. many women are in harems without even knowing

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >having a different definition of being 'single'
            The study defines "single" as "they are not married, living with a partner or in a committed romantic relationship." They can't have a different definition than this

            >and increased LGBT stuff among women
            Lesbians are more likely to be single than straight women. Plus there's more gay men than lesbian women

            >but mostly hypergamy. many women are in harems without even knowing
            You're saying that there's a bunch of women calling the same dude their boyfriend? And that's happening enough to skew the results by 30%? C'mon, you can't even get away with some shit like that nowadays, what the frick you gonna do when she puts she's in a relationship with you on Facebook?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        simple, by being very attractive so that the girl wants you. you can trigger nervous energy by not openly showcasing that you want her too. this nervous energy will result in her throwing more of her energy and attention at you to attempt to secure you, they do this out of neuroticism because she is used to a different kind of fawning from betas. this neuroticsism develops until you catch feels back and fail to keep up the lie, and then she "wins" and throws you away, having gotten the result she wanted from you. and then it is on to the next one.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah this is pretty much what happens lol. But I don't think it's the same thing as "attraction," eh?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            if all you want is to get your dick wet (which I feel like half the people here are talking about) then it works. but it selects for awful women, and places a lot of demands on yourself.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How do I approach a girl, especially through the internet, especially a very beautiful one while trying not to show that I want her? That seems like a contradiction...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Black person you di like attractive girls right?
      same thing goes for them with guys, if you're a lard or soft twink gay that dresses like shit and doesnt take care of his looks they wont like you but that's normal, you wouldn't like a girl like that either, aside from theoretically being willing to frick her just because she has a pussy but you wouldn't really be attracted to her to go on dates and shit

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mens and womens standards are radically different though. it's incomparable. I'm not guilting them for being that way, it's makes evolutionary sense but you really can't equate men and women in that way. if given the opportunity women will opt for quality men for quantity

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It means They are biologicaly attracted to emotionaly uninvested men.

    It doesn't need to be rational.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yall could have any woman if yall could stop being so fricking obnoxious.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You are so fricking dense. That just means have a personality that isn't being a thirsty little b***h and be an actual person instead of a homunculus doing the bidding of his dick constantly. What's so hard to understand, it's literally "just be yourself" but said in the context of girls so you won't ignore it.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women are moronic.
    It's not about caring, what it is is that women like men that are driven, have passions and goals.
    Aggressive men seem to similar, hence why so many get with bad men. They appear to be going somewhere and that attracts them.
    The moronation comes into play when women target an ambitious man with his focus on his life. Meaning that she is not the main focus, this comes off as a man that doesn't care. Why? Because in their heads it's like the man outright saying "you don't matter as much as I do". The reality is that sentiment is true. No woman is worth being placed ahead of yourself. If you don't care for yourself, if you neglect yourself, you'll end up neglecting them. Women have no object permanence or understanding of delayed gratification. They want you to shift your focus and passion to them. They expect you to make them your focus. When you don't? You're an butthole. They can't seem to understand that men will work and build something for them to enjoy, many a little later. If you look at dating profiles or even what some women say, there's at times a line of "I want a man who's ambitious, hardworking and goal-oriented but not a workaholic, or too busy."

    Tldr women are moronic.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The wienersucker who wrote "Women are moronic", go suck the biggest BBC atp. No woman, ugly or not, should give a frick about an incel like you.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tell me you have no idea what self-confidence means but use other words - the post
    I have a friend (call him Joe) with, at best, a 6/10 face. Probably just a strong 4/10 face. he's 5'10", in good shape, great voice, but ugly.
    But he's also the most self-confident man I've ever met. Never flustered, never speechless, never uncertain.
    Example: 4 of us were walking down the street when a block ahead of us a car lost control, jumped the curb, and hit some guy as it slammed into a building. Before the rest of us even processed what was going on Joe was sprinting to the scene and calling 911 on his phone. He snapped the car into park, checked the guy the car had hit and made sure he wasn't bleeding, put his jacket under the guy's head and told him to wait for help, then checked the driver, got her out and laid her down like the guy, all while telling 911 exactly what was going on, the address, that they needed two ambulances, figuring out the driver was having a heart attack while the guy hit had a broken leg, and calming them both down.
    The other three of us were still staring dumbfounded when he stood up and smiled at us
    >"That was exciting, wasn't it?"
    The cops arrived, he gave a simple statement, we went to eat. He never even raised his voice or looked flustered.
    To him a gorgeous woman is less exciting than that. I mean - he's polite, even charming. He holds doors and says 'ma'am' and 'miss' (and 'sir) as appropriate. Old school Southern gentleman.
    When women realize he needs only himself, that he already feels complete, is totally confident, that he literally does not give a single FRICK what anyone else thinks about him or anything else?
    They are desperate, DESPERATE, to get his attention. They will crawl through broken glass in the hopes he will give them special attention.
    I realized why, too. If *HE* cares about them they are special. His attention is proof they aren't like other girls.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Boom!
      This.
      Self-confident men don't abuse women or insult them. They just don't need them to be complete.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shutin virgins making up scenarios in their mind why they can't get pussy.
    You can't get it because you're an insecure homosexual, you also don't have any personality whatsoever.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can understand women or you can love them, its really hard to do both.

    > What do people mean when they say "girls go after guys who don't give a frick about them"? Does it mean you just shouldn't be needy/desperate or you should literally ignore women who you find attractive?
    Its market dynamics/sales techniques. They think if you pursue them you are trying to take advantage. If you ignore them then youre hiding cool shit.
    To understand women you need to understand who they are in competition with (other women) and what they fear the most. A womans sense of hell is being on the outside while everyone else is having a party having fun. Whole class get invited to party while she's the loser nobody wanted to socialize with; thats her greatest fear.
    So if you ignore them, AND Have cool shit (i.e. rich), AND have other options with women; they will lose their minds trying to get with you.

    Before I go any further remember this: Who cares. Women are soulless consumers, especially American. Leave this place before you become damned.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not the rest of the idiots in this thread but:

      How do I act upon this? Do I tell girls I'm interested in about other girls or something what do I do

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://www.girlschase.com/content/why-girls-bad-boys
        https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-preselection-can-get-you-girls

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Does it mean you just shouldn't be needy/desperate
    For normal, functional women, yes.
    >or you should literally ignore women who you find attractive?
    For women with mental problems that will ruin your life, yes.

    Have standards and stick to them. If you think the shit you have to do to impress a particular woman is stupid and has no bearing on you as a partner, then it probably is, so don't pursue her even if she's throwing herself at you. Make good decisions about partners. If you're just trying to frick, though, this does not apply, just don't take her to your real house or use your real name or number. But also, if you actually want a girlfriend, don't settle for just fricking; refuse to frick them until you find one that's actually GF material.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Does it mean you just shouldn't be needy/desperate or you should literally ignore women who you find attractive?
    The first one. Obviously.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are you Chad? Then congratulations.
    First of all, women pursue Chad only. So, of course when Chad doesn't chase them, they chase him. The end.
    As for non-chad males, unfortunately, this isn't true. If you stop giving the girl attention, she will dry up. Because that's all you have to offer.

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