What do women even expect us to say to them at this point?

What do women even expect us to say to them at this point?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>NSFFW

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No like I have no idea , when I try to act soft (the way I was raised) they want nothing to do with me, when I try to act hard by copying led Zeppelin lyrics, they frick me but then get mad at me later. I have no idea what they want

      Women, like anyone else, appreciate genuine communication. Instead of trying to say what you think they want to hear, try being sincere and attentive. Ask about their interests, share your own thoughts and feelings, and listen actively to what they have to say. It's less about saying the "right" thing and more about showing genuine interest and respect.

      Here are some things women often appreciate hearing:

      >Supportive statements: "You've got this" or "I'm here for you" can be powerful.
      >Words of appreciation: Thank her for something she did or simply express gratitude for her presence.
      >Genuine interest in her thoughts and feelings: "How are you doing?" followed by active listening shows you care.

      Remember, it's a two-way street! The best conversations come from mutual interest and effort.

      Bullshit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are you just gonna hit him with the bs after that thoughtful and insightful advice?

        tsk, tsk

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I already do all that shit if she deserves it. I'm talking about earlier stage where she doesn't know me yet

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the guy who even openly says he has no understanding of women calls good advice bullshit
        Many, many such cases.

        I already do all that shit if she deserves it. I'm talking about earlier stage where she doesn't know me yet

        >I'm talking about earlier stage where she doesn't know me yet
        And do you not think being genuine is a good way for her to get to know you? moron.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They want you to BE hard like led zeppelin lyrics, not just on the surface

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women, like anyone else, appreciate genuine communication. Instead of trying to say what you think they want to hear, try being sincere and attentive. Ask about their interests, share your own thoughts and feelings, and listen actively to what they have to say. It's less about saying the "right" thing and more about showing genuine interest and respect.

    Here are some things women often appreciate hearing:

    >Supportive statements: "You've got this" or "I'm here for you" can be powerful.
    >Words of appreciation: Thank her for something she did or simply express gratitude for her presence.
    >Genuine interest in her thoughts and feelings: "How are you doing?" followed by active listening shows you care.

    Remember, it's a two-way street! The best conversations come from mutual interest and effort.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      shut the frick up, GPT

      No like I have no idea , when I try to act soft (the way I was raised) they want nothing to do with me, when I try to act hard by copying led Zeppelin lyrics, they frick me but then get mad at me later. I have no idea what they want
      [...]
      Bullshit

      >when I try to act soft (the way I was raised) they want nothing to do with me
      yeah don't do that. duh. women want you to be hard without having to tell you to do so. if you're just being though because someone told you to, then you're not really a though guy, are you?
      >when I try to act hard by copying led Zeppelin lyrics, they frick me but then get mad at me later.
      yeah, because you're faking it. you're not actually being hard. you made this post because you care what women think of you and probably let it slip irl. or like the kids say nowadays, your nice guy side cracked and gave her the ick.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        tough**
        I am phoneposting, bear with me

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >bear with me
          Careful anon you'll trigger the moids here

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Women, like anyone else, appreciate genuine communication. Instead of trying to say what you think they want to hear, try being sincere and attentive. Ask about their interests, share your own thoughts and feelings, and listen actively to what they have to say. It's less about saying the "right" thing and more about showing genuine interest and respect.

      Lmao what a homosexual, do this if you want to be categorized as a "nice guy" aka "cuck" and cheated on constantly. Women barely understand words, communicating almost entirely on an emotional level (body language, tone, etc.). So it doesn't even matter what you say, it matters that you say it *as if* it were flirty and bold, even if you're literally at work giving the same canned responses you give to every customer but if the tone and body language says "were flirting rn and I am utterly not intimidated by you" then she's gonna react as if you actually said those words. The bar is actually incredibly low for men trying to transition into alphas because sperglord is increasingly the baseline norm.

      The real key to women in current Year is that they want you when they think you don't give a shit about them and they're just one option among many to you, the second you convey that you care about them they want to cheat on you and shit test you into oblivion.

      Dating in Current Year is honestly not worth the hassle but I'm dedicated to procreation so I have to put up with this insufferable bullshit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not reading that shit.

        Anon, it's a ChatGPT response. No need to go on a tangent over something as irrelevant as women's desires. Who cares?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm not reading that shit

          If your time were too valuable to read longposts then you wouldn't be on this website. Also I think it was either an actual roastoid or a troony

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why is chatgpt so blue pilled bros

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is there a single AI that hasn't been censored?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is the most anodyne bland pap I have ever read in my life anon.
      Was this taken from a GPT ? Are you an actual human being?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't want you to say anything. Women want security and comfort. They do not want you to be emotional (sensitive or angry) they want you to be stoic and dependable. That is it. Women will try to annoy you to make you angry or tell you to open up as an unconscious shit test. Life is not a video game with speech checks like you are playing a video game. Don't yap.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't seem true unless you're like an elderly couple or something

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Doesn't seem true unless you're like an elderly couple or something
        I am confident if you start being stoic and playful and not taking what women quite as seriously they will enjoy you and your company much more. I insist you give it a try and you'll very quickly find that it is true.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ACK! *thump*

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I talked to a real female these past few days, in DMs, and it basically confirmed every misogynistic belief I had.

    I don't think I could deal with a woman actually
    She is a NEET
    I am 100% sure she's cis female

    Like I'm volcel now instead of incel
    My eyes are open

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Volcel Pretty Based. I wonder if that's what I am. I enjoy my solitude, but I do love sex when the opportunity comes, especially with pretty girls n a nice ass

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You went into the discussion with a self-sabatoging mindset and felt glad went you subconsciously steered the conversation to proof your mindset

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There was a recent study that found 77% of women want to be approached. A lot of guys should attempt to cold approach even if it's scary or you're bad at it because mathematically nearly 4/5 women will walk away from the encounter flattered even if you don't get a date

    Something I used to do (and still do) tbh is

    >approach girl
    >"hi there, I'm really sorry I never do this but that jacket/tattoo/accessory looks great on you, does it have a story? I'm (name) by the way"

    Break this down:
    >"I never do this" gives you an excuse to be a little awkward and makes the girl feel special because you're implying that she was especially compelling to approach
    >"that accessory looks great on you" girls get complimented on their physical beauty all the time to the point they take it for granted. Complimenting something that's part of their outfit instead still reinforces their beauty but also compliments a deliberate choice they made regarding style which is sure to be a more interesting and unique compliment
    >"does it have a story?" this gets them to talk about themselves. People love to talk about themselves. It's unreal how most people can walk away from a conversation with a good impression of someone as long as all the other person did was listen. This gives you opportunities to segue into other talking points
    >then give them your name. Simple as. If they return their name and talk to you, you're like 90% of the way there

    You can't get away with this if you use it all the time becuase you'll develop a reputation and won't come across as sincere but it's been a classic for me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >%77

      find that hard to believe, i'd take a look at the study, but that has to apply to their dream guy not the average joe

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mathematically nearly 4/5 women will walk away from the encounter flattered even if you don't get a date
      the frick is the point of flirting with women if you don't get anything back?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Man, reading this reply made me realize something. Guys are so used to pragmatism and have internalize the idea that "all interactions are transactional" such that they can't fathom talking to a woman unless it immediately leads to sex. Maybe women were right about us after all.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I would love to just talk to a woman. But even women don't want much to do with the inane yammerings of some random man. I don't talk to women with sex on the brain. Rather have a date honestly. I think its fine to never talk to people you don't have interest in. Most men are interested in women because of the date / sex appeal or whatever. I am not going to talk to a random woman I don't know AND don't like AND has nothing that sparked my interest. If I saw a woman with like a shirt of a band I like, then sure, might chit chat. If she has none of those things? I am not talking to her.

          Do you randomly just walk up to haggard old women whom you have NOTHING in common with and just have a random conversation? Seems odd. The take away is that some sort of spark / interest point is needed. Generally speaking, a womans sex appeal is on that list in the common section.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't talk to random elderly people no, what a strange thing to ask lol

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm diagnosing you with poor reading comprehension due to autism, case dismissed, appeal rejected

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Okay. Even so, if you can only converse with women you are sexually attracted to or want to frick then you have problems and should post fewer 'jaks and spend more time loving yourself.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No moron(not the guy you responded to), I converse with women I find INTERESTING. Interesting can include sexual characteristics are hobbies etc. Its just easier to spot sexual characteristics and they are more common. The woman with large breasts isn't really gonna hide her chest.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Exactly! The point I am trying to make is that people talk to who they think is interesting. If I say a Mexican woman with a large ass, I may talk to her based on that alone. If I saw the same girl with no ass and a band shirt I like, I may talk to her as well. If I say a old lady just doing weird old lady things, I definitely would NOT talk to her because I have no interest at all with her.

            Basically, non-sexual things aren't the only interest triggers. Some people like speaking to women with long hair or other physical features. Hell even tattoos.

            And honestly, if you really think about, A LOT of things in our world were created just because some guy wanted to bang some woman. You think half the inventions on this fricking earth were because some dude just wanted to do? no. It was because someone SOMEWHERE wanted to frick at some point and needed to do something impressive.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think the lightbulb or toaster were created because men wanted pussy, no.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            how will you know if you have common interests with a woman if you never talk to them? you are only ever going to start relationships with people based on what they are wearing or if they are physically attractive? people like to talk about themselves, you even said it yourself, you just go off on inante yammerings, but maybe instead of doing that, let her do the talking instead and you listen.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Do you randomly just walk up to haggard old women whom you have NOTHING in common with and just have a random conversation?
            lol, they're the ones who randomly chat up people at bus stops at whatnot

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the idea that "all interactions are transactional"
          This idea is spread and enforced primarily by women thoughever

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frick this anon.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah it sounds like they get fricked pretty often, W rizz

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >4/5 women will walk away from the encounter flattered even if you don't get a date
      The absolute state of cucks.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        As opposed to losers on the internet who mock good advice even though they'll go to bed lonely, jerking off, with tears in their eyes like usual, because they never try to do anything to change their situation? Yeah those guys are "cucks" chief lmao

        >I'm really sorry I never do this
        Is this really necessary?

        NTA but as he said, mentioning that approaching isn't something you do gives you an excuse to come off as inexperienced or awkward and also makes the girl subconsciously feel more special because it signals to her that she was pretty/interesting/etc enough to force you to approach when you normally wouldn't. Women love to know that they change men's behavior. You could drop the sorry part I guess

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          She's just going to take all that new validation from the compliment and use it to frick some guy she's actually attracted to. It's bad advice. It encourages men to feel good about a bad deal under the guise of 'being nice.' That's exactly what the whole nice guy thing is about.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm really sorry I never do this
      Is this really necessary?

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    lmao

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://datepsychology.com/risk-aversion-and-dating/

      >mathematically nearly 4/5 women will walk away from the encounter flattered even if you don't get a date
      the frick is the point of flirting with women if you don't get anything back?

      >why would I ever shoot a free throw if I might not make it
      >why would I ever invest in a stock unless I'm guaranteed to profit
      >why would I apply for a job unless I know they'll hire me

      Your mindset is very telling. Approaching and dating is a numbers game much like anything else. You have to make the decisions that give you the best odds. There's a good chance especially when you're starting that you'll get rejected or it'll go nowhere. But for most men that reality is already facing them when they open up Tinder so why not try for once in your life

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        lmao

        Whoops I replied to the wrong post. But there's the study link

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they expect us to keep our distance

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    women only like men who are accomplished in the speedrunning world
    make sure to have a printout of your PBs and WRs on you at all times to attract a mate

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the least sucky dating app/site to use (as a 20-something NEET with no social skills)?

    besides the obvious honeypot (duolicious)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NSFFW /soc/
      craigslist

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Be hot
    >"Wanna make out?"
    Works more often than you'd think.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stop obeying the breeding industry, anon.
    If the wmn want babies, they don't need a walking ATM machine (aka men) to make them.
    Let them make the babies themselves.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just act like a human being, look her in the eyes, not every woman will like you, look at what you bring to the table and find a woman that might like that, and if you are bringing nothing to the table maybe talking to women isn't for you yet, find some hobbies, or something besides sex

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      b***h I am the table

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sex is overrated though I assure you that you haven't missed out on anything.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sex is not overrated lmao life is miserable without it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Didn't change my life in anyway except that I don't have to worry about my incels.is post count and losing my virginity anymore, sex is just like jerking off just instead of post nut clarity you cuddle with a foid and lie about loving her.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    say anything but desperate stuff but with 100% effort and emotions

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is nothing left to say
    Everything that needed to be said has already been said.

    Gym receptionist said hi to me the other day and I contemplated for one second whether I should even bother responding, but I did say hi however she already went past me and didn't even hear me as my hello was so faint. I don't have anything to say to anybody anymore so why should I even bother with these formalities?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because its an easy way to brand yourself as a loner and a shut in and that makes life harder than you think

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They expect you to listen to what they say, not think of shit to say. Jesus christ, just talk to them like a normal human being.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      to respond to what they have to say you have to use your brain and think of something to say, otherwise you say nothing

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Prolly "your numbers got picked on the lottery" or something

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't matter what you say.
    Some will be a b***h to you, some will act indifferent, and others will feign kindess but none of them actually care about what you have to say because they don't even know what they want you to say.
    Unless they want you to frick them everything you say or do will be reacted to with the three listed reactions or some spectrum between.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Girkin

    There's nothing that needs to be said, simply make the babies.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    poop pee salad

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You basically have to be charlie harper levels of wit and handsomeness (which isn't that handsome - sheen is basically hispanic looking anyway)

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What does it matter
    I care less and less every day, I have sex but even I don’t know when to squeeze or grind on a girl who had been clearly giving me signals. Sometimes it works, sometimes it don’t, 100% of the time they will pretend not to care about you while at the same time watching you and trying to get your attention and keep it, even after rejecting you. They’re cold, not cruel, but it makes me want to go cruel when girls are actually interested in me. I find myself going down an evil path that ironically only makes them respond more readily and submissively to me, but I don’t see any difference in them anymore. They are all the same girl, just “different”. I traded my simp card and heart for hoe vision.
    Frick em
    Never love
    Never marry
    No remorse
    No mercy
    No affection
    No sympathy
    Frick em
    Let em bleed like all they know how
    He who loves will lose her
    She loves who wins
    Your love doesn’t matter
    Their “love”, ironically, is the prize
    You want to trick them into loving you
    This is why they only go after powerful men
    They want to be the pet

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They want to see paperwork about your assets.
    666
    Blonde men need not apply.

    Your guide to modern "women."

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