What is the point of marriage for men?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sometime pussy get up and leave. but if ring around pussy owners finger, this happen less

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao you stupid apes cant think about muh dick. Worthless.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    single household dual income

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can do that without marriage too. I don't want kids, but I also don't want to be tied to a foid who can sue me and extract money from me if we divorce.

      I also don't want her b***hing when I buy expensive stuff from our shared pool of money. My parents constantly argued about money because of this. There are also no tax benefits for married people in my country.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You can do that without marriage too
        you can do it with marriage
        >I don't want kids
        Peak brainwashing. I bet you still work at a job too, LOL
        >who can sue me
        Literally anybody can sue you at any time. You become more resilient in a marriage, not less.
        >My parents constantly argued about money
        There are people who don't argue, it's not that hard
        >There are also no tax benefits for married people in my country
        This is a lie and also contradicts your meme about lawsuits.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How does that benefit you if you're a man unless she's making a lot more than you, in which case she won't want to be with you unless you're a top 5% genetic lottery winner. Women spend most of the money.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >how does it benefit you to have more wealth
        Lol

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You don't, though. The way women spend your money you're going to end up poorer. You're an autistic bean counter with no real life experience.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think most men look at it logically. They love the girl and want to lock her down, even if it means signing a bad contract. And a smart girl would never get with a man unwilling to marry.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This might sound crazy but some normal people have this thing called "love"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >i just love her so much bro so i'm gonna let my livelihood and wellbeing rest on the delicate balance of her whims knowing she can take me to divorce court and ass rape me for all i'm worth at a moment's notice for any reason and if her mood changes one day

      moron

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Marriage is a control scheme by the church sure, but you know you can just sign a contract about how the resources should be divided in case of a divorce right?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nothing screams love like a contract that says "i'm convinced that without this you'll frick me over"

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe you shouldn't marry out of love. Have you thought about that?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that frickin sucks. so this is just a business contract? what for?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dunno but you shouldn't marry your first love.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >but you know you can just sign a contract about how the resources should be divided in case of a divorce right
          Which are then routinely thrown out and overruled by female judges

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's why people routinely stay together instead of divorcing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I bet they do, especially women who initiate 80% of these divorces. Not for personal gain of course, that would be beneath them.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >do something for personal gain
            >get nothing
            The divorce rate for someone with a bachelors degree is only 13%. If you are living in a community or family where divorce is common, I know exactly what you look like, lol. It's no wonder that you people are so angry about normal marriages.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Just alimony
            >No mention of giving away houses and child support
            So this is what they did during Augustus' reign huh?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            in case you are not mentally moronic, the rates for those are even lower.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The rates for child support are even lower moron
            Source? I know its hard to find or prove but anyway thats not the point of my post you zero reading comprehension having black as night apelet. good luck getting those marriage rates up!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You didnt have a point. Some moron assumed that women get something out of a modern divorce and then immediately shut up when he was wrong.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Source on child support payments being lower than 10% as result? Or were you just being an angry incel?
            And lol
            >Still not understanding
            So this is why Augustus failed convincing men to start marrying again. He employed morons! Good luck raising those marriage rates baby.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >word salad
            Keep getting those obesity rates up!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Assumptions
            >Word salad
            Lol, seethe harder. But thanks for proving you dont understand english ESLicus
            Source on child support payments as a result of divorce happening in less than 10% of cases?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Source on men like you and your biological dad never wanting to provide for their children? Source on your latest criminal record?

            Keep getting those obesity rates up, you are doing a fine job

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >BRO I WAS JUST SAYING THINGS OKAY, I WAS SO ANGRY THAT I NEEDED TO DISPROVE YOU HERE

            in case you are not mentally moronic, the rates for those are even lower.


            So you are just an angry incel? Get a life, go outside, touch grass, have sex. Be happy. You will thank me someday angry esl incel

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >NOOO STOP TALKING ABOUT MY CRIMINAL RECORD OKAY?
            lmao every fricking time

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Assumptions again
            Average pedophile wanting people to marry so he can diddle their kids. Let me take back my words, don't go outside, don't touch grass in playgrounds, don't be happy and don't have sex (most important one)
            I won you stinky pederast. You silly childmolester.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Does anyone else notice how mad they get when you mention their single mom and criminal record? This unc literally just started spazzing out all over his keyboard

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Gets this mad because he couldnt prove what he claimed here

            in case you are not mentally moronic, the rates for those are even lower.


            Why are you a pedophile however. Typical angry incel is typical. I won btw.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I won
            >meanwhile has a lengthy criminal record
            We are so back. I agree with you that incels have no clue what they are talking about btw, some moron earlier brought up child support for no reason after talking about how women get something out of divorce. And he doesnt have a source apparently.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >t. snarky temper tantrum throwing pedophile
            lol, go outside

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >just go outside
            >just go find a boyfriend, its easy
            >just go get a high paying job
            >just change your genetics
            Normie advice its all so tiresome

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The divorce rate for someone with a bachelors degree is only 13%
            Cope, techcels like Techlead get divorce raped and cucked just as hard. Your money and feigned sense of upper class means absolutely nothing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            marriedcels like my parents have been together for 40 years
            marriedcels like all my friends parents have been together for 30-50 years
            marriedcels like me and almost all of my coworkers have been with their wives for 10-15 years

            let me know when the divorce meme is supposed to happen. i know two guys that have been divorced and they both remarried within a few years.

            >living your entire life in a marriage doesn't actually mean you were not single that whole time

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >marriedcels like me and almost all of my coworkers have been with their wives for 10-15 years
            solid LARP, but you forgot where you're posting

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This would be contradictory because anyone here talking about divorce would be also larping by that logic. I know exactly what you people look like lol

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're larping. The demographics of this board is common knowledge, the odds of you being successful, educated and married are close to zero. You're either a NEET kang who just got up or some wagecuck bored at work. Either that or some discord troony raiding.

            >t. your biological dad is in jail and you treat women like objects

            Samegay some more, Black person. I bet you're happy that they removed the IP counter.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >dorky child of a single mom tries to provoke real humans with his delusions about normal relationships
            >also acts like real humans would never post here
            Pick one, bud

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >normal relationships
            >posting on /NSFFW/

            This gets better with every post

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >doesnt even know what thread he is in

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're some fat fricking incel with a neckbeard, same as the rest of us, bonus points if you're wearing programmer socks too. I mean who the frick are you kidding?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah true, I was just like you. You are not missing out on much. Except I dont have a single mom or degenerate gangbanger cucks all around me. You are definitely on your own with that one

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Yeah true, I was just like you.
            Oh, so it's not a LARP but your escape fantasy, I get it. Well, I wish you the best of luck, buddy.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks. I will definitely need that luck if you think a divorce is somehow in my future.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It really does not matter how long the people you know have been married, the man still has a gun to his head, it all depends on if the woman uses it.

            A bad contract that is never actively used against you is still a bad contract.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thats why you sign good contracts. A man who makes bad choices has to face the consequences of his actions.

            The only two things that PUA guys say are bad about marriage are that you might end up not married, which means anyone unmarried is a loser, and that you might lose money, as if all PUA guys have so much money but just not enough to survive a divorce. In reality its usually the poor people that divorce and even they have a more fulfilling life than people who divorced before they even gave themselves a chance at a family

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >t. your biological dad is in jail and you treat women like objects

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >divorce rate for someone with a bachelors degree is only 13
            It's actually twice that atleast you lying israelite.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Its not. The probability that you get divorced before age 65 is only 13% if you are a married man with a bachelors degree

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Men will remarry quickly though so it's okay

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They also kill themselves twice as often after a divorce, plus a woman is potentially set for life after divorcing, so why would they remarry? Makes no sense.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's not love unless it's legally recognized

      Wha--

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are you wondering why marriage was ever a societal institution in the first place or why people are still doing it in this day and age?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Attraction to the opposite sex, the desire to leave a legacy behind, stable household for kids. It is not for everyone.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Attraction to the opposite sex, the desire to leave a legacy behind, stable household for kids.
      Realistically you can have all that without marriage though. That's what makes it so pointless.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can't, going about standard things in strange ways won't yield success, or people would have done it more throughout history. Marriage is the standard, and what one would expect of older people they have respect for. Some dude in his fifties who only has a girlfriend is either a loser or a new age hippie, in general, it's good to have as high a standard for yourself as you'd expect for others, even for historical figures.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You literally can. Everything you just said boils down to worrying about how it appears as opposed to doing what makes you happiest and leaves you in the best position.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just ran a quick search to prove my point. You would have never guessed any of these successful people never married, but they didn't. You don't need to get married to make your mark or earn respect. Its basically just cheap social currency for the common man that will be quickly forgotten anyway.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Keanu reeves is definitely married

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not sure, seems like he s just shacking up with his grandma.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            god forbid a male celebrity dates someone close to his age

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I was just joking, she looks sweet. I'd be fricking 18 years olds though. To each his own I guess

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >worthless actors
            these are forgotten as soon as they die or near thereto, at least post some freak philosopher to try prove your point, frivolous people acting frivily is not a surprise

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >list of people with TOTALLY SHIT personal lives ranging from massive trauma and loss (reeves) to lifelong drug addictions leading to death (perry) and you crow "they never married tee-hee, and they are on my computer!"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >attraction to the opposite sex
      You can just jerk off or have casual sex or a long term relationship without making yourself vulnerable to divorce misery.
      >desire to leave a legacy
      So go do something you'll actually be remembered for. I don't know any of my ancestors older than my grandparents. You'll be forgotten anyway, wether you have kids or not.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Masturbation and casual sex far into ones adulthood leads to an immaturity misery. As for legacy, I meant a blood one. Having kids is also a good way to honour your parents. It is not for everyone however, you are free to do or see the world however you want.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Two years of bliss, twenty years of pain

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a religious thing for extremely devout and pious people. It's not hard to understand.
    That said, most marriages are false. Anyone who gets a pagan marriage is moronic. If one has a marriage license or gets it legally recognized in any way then they are very stupid, there are no benefits in that case. Religiously speaking a pagan marriage is breaking one of the ten commandments. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. If the state recognizes the marriage that means they worship the state and dedicated the union to a false god. These are the people who get divorces, cheated on, dead bedrooms, and all the other problems that could have been avoided if they just got a Christian marriage instead. Pagan marriage is essentially a wager. I bet half my stuff that I picked a good woman and that she won't do anything bad. If he wins the wager nothing happens. If he loses the wager then he loses half his stuff. Not exactly a great prospect but pagans aren't exactly known for being smart.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i've never seen a point in marriage at all, other than maybe the tax breaks you get in some countries or whatever
    like, what is it supposed to accomplish anyway? changing last names? wearing a ring?
    it's all beyond me, the promise to "love and respect 'till death do us part" should already be present in a stable enough relationship

    i know for one i'm never getting married if i can help it, lol

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Marriage or long term commitment means you get to spend time with and build a life with your best friend to whom you also immensely attracted and emotionally connected to.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was kind of worried I was going to get a shotgun wedding after she got pregnant. Yeah that was a pussy moved that backfired.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    To bring more suffering into your life after the divorce. Suffering builds character. The greater the disadvantage the more you can gain.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No benefits at all for men, only cons

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >OH MY GOD THIS MAN JUST GOT HIT BY A CAR AND HE'S BLEEDING A LOT AND-
    >Oh, no insurance?
    >Frick 'em.

    >OH MY GOD THIS MAN JUST GOT HIT BY A CAR AND HE'S BLEEDING A LOT AND-
    >Oh, he's married to a hole that has a job that which doesn't pay well, but has has "Family Plan" Insurance
    >WHATEVER HE NEEDS! YER GONNA MAKE IT!

    Just treat it as a business arangement, it's the only way it can "work".
    And make sure you don't get divorce-raped, so just get gay-married.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I have no idea that you cannot withhold emergency medical treatment because of a lack of insurance
      FTFY
      Try to leave mommy's basement more

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is none anymore because sex outside of marriage is okay. Once that happens the number of children born outside marriage skyrockets because men dont want to risk being assraped by the courts lol.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Western countries are already averaging at 50% of children born out of wedlock
      >It's only rising
      Lol

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Babby. Otherwise I would avoid it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Western countries are already averaging at 50% of children born out of wedlock
      >It's only rising
      Lol

      Nah. And if you really want to avoid it yet want babbie go the surrogacy route.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Men who are married are:
    >healthier; less stressed; have more friends; have more sex; live longer; make more money; less likely to be victims of violent crime
    and a lot more.
    All the positive start within 6 months of being married and end within a year of being divorced/widowed.
    And ignore the moronation about divorce rape - just don't live in California

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >married
      >less stressed
      iunno chief

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Study after study shows that married people eat better and are less likely to smoke and drink excessively.
      So just live a healthy lifestyle? Lol.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you lived a healthy lifestyle you would understand the advantages of having a committed romantic partner honestly, and culturally you would still get married even if you wanted to avoid the legal implications

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I do, but that's what studies mention on why exactly married people live longer. It's a bit like sockbuddies in the military. If you are in charge of your own feet health you will not care but you will care if you have to care for someone else and someone else cares for you. This can all be done by one person however if they are not moronic and responsible for their own health. It's literally just a wife telling you to eat less and not smoke that grants you a whole whopping 2 more years

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Look, if you are the type of pedant contrarian that nuance trolls his way out of every decision in life, yes you can have a healthy and happy existence on planet earth without marriage, and you can argue that certain situations and personality traits lead a marriage to be measurably riskier than just living alone or with an unmarried partner.

            Unfortunately, people have learned and relearned the lessons about family and community thousands of times in history, and no amount of Hollywood or japanese corporate culture brainwashing is going to change our biology or preference for stability and commitment

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You are just a troll dude
            What a copout. Those studies you are mentioning are basically saying the same thing I am saying except for some aspects they still need to study. Newsflash bucko, marital stress (not just divorce stress, just normal stress from marriage) thickens your heart more than other kinds of stress. This is so controversial that they don't know why married men live a whole 2 whopping years longer than unmarried men. I am not even saying they dont live longer, I am saying that a lot of the difference can be negligent if you just simply take care of yourself. Revolutionary, I know.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Taking care of yourself is easier with support from someone that lives with you and has bonded with you, but no its not revolutionary at all to be self sufficient or an egomaniac. Studies show everyone is a fat b***h, but that doesnt mean you cant learn about diet and exercise

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We are now saying the same thing but glad to see you agree on the taking care of yourself part and it being easier when you have a buddy.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I agree with you, I was just saying the nuance trolling is not based. Its like the guys who say you can technically walk everywhere and never need a car

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Nuance trolling
            You should consider that other people are arguing in good faith. If you have to assume this about others who don't agree with you when discussing things you should reconsider things. And i wouldn't use false equivalencies either. Anyway cool cool we should promote individual self sustainability regardless. It's a good thing. Lest you become dependent on the spouse and suffer immensely after divorce/death.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just because some people divorce or die, doesnt mean supporting each other is bad.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's not at all what I was saying. The dependibility problem is precisely that after a lifetime of depending on the other, once a partner falls away, the surviving partner doesn't know how to take care of themselves and they die quicker than people who lost their spouse but didnt depend on them for everything.
            >Research from around the world confirms that the death of a spouse increases the likelihood of illness and disability in the surviving spouse, and that men are more vulnerable than women. One reason that widowers fare so poorly is that nutrition and other health habits deteriorate when men are on their own; even a wife's hospitalization is hazardous to her husband's health. Another factor is social isolation. And a study of 1,667 men in the Boston area linked the death of a spouse to a decline in testosterone levels comparable to the drop that occurs during 10 years of aging.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do you depend on food to survive? Why not just stop eating food?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >But what about this false equivalency
            >t. just here to argue to win internet points
            Very tiresome but ill indulge you this once. Why not get married to air? You can marry inanimate objects in a lot of countries.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The fact that you think its a false equivalence only shows how far disconnected you are from the human experience. Show me a study on autism next please!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Its not a false equivalency
            >Being married is just like food
            Troll, go a week without your wife and die because you need her as much as you need hamburgers and air.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Go a week without posting bait on social media. I guarantee you will struggle

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Mockery
            I already knew

            >But what about this false equivalency
            >t. just here to argue to win internet points
            Very tiresome but ill indulge you this once. Why not get married to air? You can marry inanimate objects in a lot of countries.

            You just have nothing left to say but you are so angry that you became moronic. Work on those issues buddy, because otherwise you wont find a wife that will lengthen your life (if you can find a woman in the first place).

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The bootstrap self improoov mentality is definitely trendy, but I dare you to find many people on this board who did not suffer immensely from being alone or isolated. The types of dorks who blame their parents or society for their underprivileged or pointless life should logically have the most to gain from a committed relationship

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Now this is nuance trolling. And actually, unhealthy people pair more often with other unhealthy people than healthy ones, only reinforcing unhealthy behaviour.
            >It's often said that old married couples come to resemble each other. That may or may not be true, but according to Italian researchers, married couples do have similar cardiac risk factors. In their 2009 report, the scientists reviewed 71 earlier studies that covered more than 100,000 couples. All in all, the spouses demonstrated many shared risk factors, including hypertension, diabetes, cholesterol, obesity, and smoking. Some of the similarities can be explained by the tendency for people to choose spouses like themselves, and some of the shared risk factors depend on lifestyle habits partners have in common.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just because some people are unhealthy doesnt mean that they are all incels or femcels

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And luckily that was not at all what I was saying. You're just putting words in my mouth. You say they would benefit from a partner but
            >The types of dorks who blame their parents or society for their underprivileged or pointless life
            more than likely have problems that they will then try to find in others. Unhappy marriages are actually worse for men than being unmarried. So unless they fix their mental problems first, they will most likely find someone like them which will only make things worse.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >just learn to love yourself
            >just fix all your problems alone
            Most understanding teenager

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I accept your concession good gentlesire. Another internet point for us!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You had one job. Jimmies status: rustled.

            Upvoted you good sir. Edited thanks for the gold you are a gentleman and

            a scholar.

            We hate marriage lol my girlfriend can have sex with anyone she wants actually!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            She can do that anyway.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This.

            A real man lets his partner frick a lot of other men, and raises her children.

            There is no benefit to marriage! Trust me

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A real man gets cheated on and has to pay the woman a settlement when they get divorced.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Also 2 decades of child support to tyrone's kids no paternity test necessary. Don't be a deadbeat, best interests of the child(tm) and all that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Only normies get married.

            A real sigma male from reddit loves it when women frick other guys. They would never get married because getting married is not sigma

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >They would never get married
            On the contrary, reddit loves israeli humiliation rituals.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, reddit is the literal place where incels got started, and the whole sigma lifestyle. they keep bringing up divorce rates from the 1990s because they know how rare it is today.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, reddit loves israelites and their culture, maybe you should go there and check it out for yourself and then get back to us.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Reddit is where all these guys who hate marriage came from.

            It's only rare because no one's getting married anymore.
            Still not seeing an argument for why marriage is good btw.

            There was never any argument. Sigmamaxxing is based on faith, not logic

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's only rare because no one's getting married anymore.
            Still not seeing an argument for why marriage is good btw.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are no upsides besides virtue signalling. You risk money and lose freedom and receive nothing in return. In the old world, divorce was difficult and women didn't have bank accounts so there was no financial risk, plus it gave you the right to use your wife whenever you want - but now that's marital rape.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Modern day? Absolutely nothing

    It was originally made for ownership, because rather than sharing a life with women, you need to own a woman

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is what people dont understand about citizenship in general. If you want to have rights, you need to understand that the government owns you and can do anything they want.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It feels good in a ritualistic way and you get to fulfil society's expectations of you. It's objectively a bad deal though.

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