What is this one major difference between men who have sex and men who don't?

It's not looks as you have plenty of ugly bastards getting pussy. It's not confidence as you have plenty of insecure and socially awkward guys still being in relationships. It's not money, hobby or status as you have literally billions of examples that represent the exact opposite, yet still get to have sex. Why all these men, despite being far from chad archetype get to frick while I don't? What is this one piece of a puzzle I'm missing?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You're boring

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're boring

      Basically this. Women are children constantly expecting to be entertained.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >men are children who constantly want sex

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you shouldn't be fricking children

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Grow up and stop asking for it then.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's okay, we are all children of our parents.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >men are children who constantly want sex
          Women are just as horny as men.
          But, perhaps, not for you. Sorry bud.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Testosterone is the main "horny" hormone.
            Which gender produces more of it?
            Unless estrogen has a similar dynamic?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're boring

      This.
      There's also common virgin memes or tropes or whatever like
      >double and triple texting, heavy emojis
      >confessions and other forms of love-bombing
      >being attracted to just the hottest most normiest girls possible
      >being shy :3
      >buying them very expensive things they don't ask for
      but the common thread of my peak virgin years was being boring, in that I almost never went out and had no friends other than a few other video game loners from high school.
      Some of my early failed relationships and one-time dates that I met online the girls outright told me I was boring (after me asking why probably while double texting)

      It was when I started going out and making new friends towards the end of high school that I finally had sex for the first time.
      >make friends
      >touch grass
      >have fun

      If I had been with people I didn't mix with at some night club whose music I hate being all stiff and awkward and bored I would never have met that cool girl at that fun bar and fricked her later that night & several times into the morning and early mid-day. I was the opposite of boring that night.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You're boring

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    gnirob er’uoY

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Also truly socially awkward guys don’t get laid.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Social awkward dude here.
      Nope, different women see it differently. I may not have gotten laid as frequently as someone else but some girls find it cute.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They have sex

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This better not be the anon who works with the guy with yellow teeth again...
    But to answer in good faith and assume you're not him, the reason is you don't have to everything. But you do have to have *something*.
    You don't need to have looks AND money AND confidence AND personality, etc (though the more you do have the better), but if you have NONE of them you're going to have a rough time.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >You don't need to have looks AND money AND confidence AND personality, etc (though the more you do have the better), but if you have NONE of them you're going to have a rough time.
      I kind of have none of these and never had a problem, none of these are necessary. People unanimously treat me like I'm ugly and I hate talking, no job, I have no personality and don't feel like using my energy to speak or think meaningful things, etc. The only two things that are necessary are:
      1) knowing how to initiate and maintain conversation with women
      2) how to get past the vulnerability barrier with a women, to get her to open up, trust you, and show you more of herself
      I'm definitely an undiagnosed autist too. I score well above the diagnosed autist average on autist tests even being very conservative with my answers and Im just kind of obviously autistic. I just found my own way that works. All the incels here just don't care to find the way that works for them and have given up before the game has started.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm this anon
        I'm going to add
        >You don't need to have looks AND money AND confidence AND personality, etc (though the more you do have the better), but if you have NONE of them you're going to have a rough time
        You can have looks and money and whatever else all at the same time and still be unlovable and an unbearable person to be around. Some people have these things and still struggle because they haven't found that deeper thing that matters more than material things and vapid traits like attractiveness. There are things more important than the traits you mentioned that are just harder to see unless you have developed an eye for them.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >they haven't found that deeper thing that matters more than material things and vapid traits like attractiveness. There are things more important than the traits you mentioned that are just harder to see unless you have developed an eye for them.
          I don't necessarily disagree at all and in fact I think you stumbled onto a good point. However, these more elusive qualities are pretty rare in people in general, no matter how much sex they are or are not having. They're not in reach for a lot of people (especially the ones here making incel threads), but the things I listed are simpler things they could try to strive for first.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >1) knowing how to initiate and maintain conversation with women
        That's confidence.
        >2) how to get past the vulnerability barrier with a women, to get her to open up, trust you, and show you more of herself
        That's a good personality.
        I agree with your larger point but at the same time I feel you're kind of lowballing yourself here. That was me you were responding to by the way.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >That's confidence.
          I wouldn't call myself confident at all. I just know how to erase concepts like confidence and fear from my mind so I can act on a random desire or impulse I have even if there's a good chance I can fail.
          >That's a good personality.
          I mean, maybe I have some personality traits that are desirable. But isn't that nearly everyone? Everyone has a unique personality with good and bad traits.

          I am definitely conventionally undesirable by looks, personality, wealth and so on, I just found a way that works for me by means of large scale trial and error that I was able to do because I can ignore my fears. And I was able to do that because I desired things like sex and love so much more than I was afraid of the consequences. The only things necessary are the desire and the lack of fear of failing a million times and things like finding love or sex will happen.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >erase...fear from my mind so I can act on a random desire or impulse I have even if there's a good chance I can fail.
            My friend, that is literally confidence.
            >Everyone has a unique personality with good and bad traits.
            Eh, I truly believe there are people out there who are completely lacking in any good personality traits. If you've been here long enough you've seen many of them post here. We're in a thread created by one of them now.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I truly believe there are people out there who are completely lacking in any good personality traits. If you've been here long enough you've seen many of them post here. We're in a thread created by one of them now.
            I mean I agree there are some people so irredeemable and unbearable to interact with but I've had my vitriolic incel NSFFW phase too. These people can dissolve the suffocating, self-detrimental mindset given to them by image board ideologies (possibly proliferated by intelligence agencies) and can self-actualize and seize their desires someday.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    do you ask girls out? or even flirt with them?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If girls don’t approach/ flirt with you then you’re subhuman.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes great, you're subhuman...but that wasn't the question. Lots of subhumans have girlfriends and wives.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Anyone can get a wife, women settling down rightfully have 0 standards. Have fun simping for some post-prime roastie

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Anyone can get a wife, women settling down rightfully have 0 standards. Have fun simping for some post-prime roastie

        are you OP? because it's really obvious what the major difference is now

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >OP is a seething incel who wants the world while also bringing nothing to the table
          Many such cases.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Did you get that image from reddit?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        is this true?
        I've never had this happen to me but it happens to my friends very often
        im the only one whose still a virgin

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >im the only one whose still a virgin
          Yeah, this implies you're less attractive than them. Sorry.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you don't want it enough. Seriously. If you did, you would change yourself and your life until you succeeded.

    Move , get a new profession, new hobby, new outlook, men have done this forever but you are too safe and satisfied with porn and video games.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      None of this helps. If you move, you're just alone in different place. In new profession you're again same place, you're just locked into a job this time get paid less since you're unskilled now with no CV. New hobby will keep you just doing shit alone on your own. No one is at all aware of your outlook at all since no woman is capable of speaking to you just like you have no option to communicate with them.
      >it's a pornvidyahomosexual
      LMAO no wonder you're moronic, your brain melted enough to believe some spam written by some moron.

      None of these things help in allowing to ever speak to a woman. There's only 1 thing you can change that can lead to sex or being around a woman and it's quitting professions/jobs altogether and going to university. You can stay where you live and keep same hobbies/outlook and you will have sex because now you get to speak. You just want to promote mindless hedonism that is done in complete solitary.

      This better not be the anon who works with the guy with yellow teeth again...
      But to answer in good faith and assume you're not him, the reason is you don't have to everything. But you do have to have *something*.
      You don't need to have looks AND money AND confidence AND personality, etc (though the more you do have the better), but if you have NONE of them you're going to have a rough time.

      He HAS EVERYTHING he just isn't in place where verbal communication with women is possible. He has looks AND money AND confidence AND personality and NONE of it allows for ever talking to a woman ever. EVERYONE has ALL these things at all times and none of it lets them have a conversation at all because they aren't in physical social place that lets it happen because that place outside of friends is only on the planet and it's in universities.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        hi schooler how are things

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Men who have sex have experience and know how to express their masculinity in a way women find attractive.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus. I'm telling you, he is that slick.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i am virgin but i've been literally begged by girls before for sex and got attention all my life. i just never made a move, ever.

    i've done the entire dance, have zero fear, approach random women, my friends call me a legend, but i'm looking at her and she's looking at me with those eyes and we're laughing and having fun and i'm gonna get another drink and hey some other girl what's up.

    it's not my fault. i've never been pulled in by a girl. i've met thousands of people and only one or two girls ever caught my eye. it was never the prettiest ones, the smartest ones, the quietest ones, the wildest ones, it was instead the ones who understood my own wildness, able to dance with it but never be caught by it, to embrace the howling wind and fan it stronger, all while knowing it's a game, and to be able to put down the game or pick it up at will.

    i can be the storm, or the peace, or anything in between, shifting without notice or word, to advance everyone's good time, and to make hostile anyone's close approach. it's extremely rare for me to get caught, but it's happened maybe twice, i will never forget those girls. especially when we were in tokyo

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > i can be the storm, or the peace, or anything in between

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        storm in a fun way, like a tornado. i am infamous for getting people out on the dance floor and matchmaking

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's having a social life. If you take care of yourself and have a huge and growing network of friends that you hang out with regularly it's only a matter of time until a woman shows interest in you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it's all about having enough opportunity to speak to women

      men who have sex just get more chances to speak

      the only way for incels to have sex is to get to talk and the only ways to speak nowadays is to be in school or meet them through mutual friends.

      Quit your job and go to university, there you can speak to girls and sex will happen eventually as long as you just talk enough to enough girls.

      School setting is one of the most important aspects to starting romantic/sexual life and no one will admit it because they all profit from you being exploited in work.

      This, you need either school or friends who can allow you to speak to women and that's what incels dont have, they aren't in school so they cannot form the network or speak to any women. They are excluded from social life involving women. They aren't going to have it until they can afford to quit their job and go back to university setting again.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the schooler

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes that happened and then I didn’t know what to do when she asked me out. I have nothing in common with women. We just sat there for an hour in almost total silence.
      If you fail to socialize in your teens, it’s incredibly difficult to catch up later.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Everything in life is just pure luck and happenstance. Nobody successful wants to admit this because it makes life seem out of control and simultaneously diminishes their idea of themselves as being successful people rather than enjoyers of success. You never asked for the life you were born into, the body or the brain you have, the parents you had, the opportunities you had. Nobody did. It's all luck and nobody is steering the ship.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >pure luck and happenstance

      >happenstance built the pyramids in egypt
      >luck invented cars and airplanes
      >chance made you an engineer
      >randomness got you laid
      >coincidence took you on vacation to florida
      nihilist logic lmao

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Hard work made the grand canyons, determination made beehives, self direction filled the ocean with life, a little bit of elbow grease made the stars.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Wait, smartphones don't grow on trees?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The simplicity of your understanding reflects more the simplicity of your mind than the simplicity of the situation. Look up Cartesian dualism and maybe some things will click.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Yes, this is also true. A majority of people will prefer a comforting lie over a harsh truth. Women particularly do not like their carriage upset so as long as you're shouldering all the difficulty, they don't want to hear about your woes. You're there to work, not whine.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Has passable functional skills
    >meets new people

    It is. An. Odds. Game. We cannot repeat this enough to you. Like 5-10% of women will frick you. If youre exposed to 10-20 new people a month, that translates to a new frick a month.
    Your stats will vary slightly to the next person, but doing the same things ane acting the same ways your number still comes up.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What is this one major difference between men who have sex and men who don't?
    What do you think you're missing?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >t. guy who enters the room and everybody hates me immediately like satan stepped inside
    literally me

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No OP

    I've just come to accept that I'm just too damn picky for what I'm worth. I'm fat and I don't want to date a fat chick. So the only solution is to lose weight. Kinda hypocritical to want someone and can't even conform to the same standards.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Based on my experience, the biggest difference is they ask people out. Ask women our, most will say no, some will say yes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >most say no
      I think this is the huge mountain to overcome for a lot. Like by default 90% of women wont like you. Period. Thats just how it goes.
      Then incels are looking for some algorithm that has to work every time then ghey strike out with woman #1 which is a fricking given, and they think well back to the drawing board, not realizing exactly what they just did will work eventually.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, just be a desperate simp begging for pussy. I’m sure that will do wonders for your reputation.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    normal people see women as people with feelings, thoughts, desires. incels see them as alien beings

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Look man, if you've spent any time in relationships you quickly learn that men and women don't think the same way and that's just how it is. A lot of people accept this to be in a long term relationship whether they admit it or not. Some choose not to deal with it. So called "incels" may have no luck with women for a wide variety of reasons including their own dysfunction but let's not kid ourselves that everyone thinks the same.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >men and women don't think the same way
        never said they didn't? in fact it's one of of the key parts of having a successful relationship, realizing that we are both very different

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They are comfortable enough talking to women and talk to them regularly enough. You don't.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Talking to women is important but just talking to them won't work if you aren't physically attractive at some level. That's the issue a lot of guys who have friends but no gf struggle with (and no I don't mean that they have to be "chad" tier or whatever either.)

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Broad and wide is the way which lead to death and many be there who find it, because straight and narrow is the way which lead to life and few be there that find it.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The same difference between men who have successfully hunted, and those who haven’t.

    You know you can.

    More importantly, you know you have met the Darwinian standard to reproduce. A woman, acting as unwitting arbiter of your genetic fitness, has judged you worthy, and allowed you Inside.

    Sure there’s more to it than that, but at the end of the day that’s all you really take away from it. Aside from some oxytocin and maybe an STD.

    It is a temporary external reassurance of your Darwinian and existential value. It feels good man. But like all things it’s fleeting. It is at once important and meaningful, but also Empty and transient, as are all phenomena. You realize there are far better and more lasting things you can do with your time.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a gay virgin in my early 30s with a six figure salary and my own house. For me it's mental illness and complete social moronation. I can interact people at a surface level like with my job or accomplish some kind of transaction like closing on my house. But I find it impossible to interact with people beyond that and social situations give me extreme anxiety so I never leave my house or talk to people. The thought of sex and being intimate with someone else is also terrifying for me.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have had sex before, but I don't consider myself a man who is having sex (because I'm not). Having to rely on dating apps has been pretty depressing as of late.

    The difference between me and a guy who hasn't had sex is that I don't consider having sex to be any sort of a milestone anymore-- I just want to find someone who I can be in a relationship with because doing so usually helps me stay positive.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    dude... stop.
    its literally the easiest thing in the world to get laid the only real issue is finding a girl who wont make you feel like a disgusting slob after fricking her. there are literally billions of women who are lonely and desperate as you are, who would frick anything with a pulse that called them pretty. getting laid isnt your problem... thinking it is your problem is your problem
    but if u really want to frick a girl here is my advice...
    shave your balls and dick and shave any other hair that looks gross and weird (back hair, neck hair)
    take a shower and wash yourself, clean your teeth and your tongue, and generally try to get rid of any disgusting parts of you that you can. knowing you are clean and frickable will give you more confidence, and girls find well groomed men attractive.
    then go out there and find a girl.
    its not hard.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >its literally the easiest thing in the world to get laid
      Pure bs

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >ake a shower and wash yourself, clean your teeth and your tongue
      what the frick kind of advice is this, are you moronic? Who doesn't shower or brush their teeth?

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Post em

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you don't have charisma

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The difference is most of thier women are ugly and they're ok with that

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >It's not confidence as you have plenty of insecure and socially awkward guys still being in relationships
    Huh. In my case, becoming more assertive is how I got laid.
    >What is this one piece of a puzzle I'm missing?
    Do you flirt with girls?
    A lot of miserable homosexuals refuse to flirt with girls because they feel bad when rejected or they think asking a girl if she finds you hot is sexual harassment.
    Fear, uncertainty, and doubt are cringe.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In order of importance (in the US at least):
    >good straight + white teeth,clear skin, being sociable and having lots of friends of both sexes, being physically fit, being tall, being white-ish/"light skinned"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >having lots of friends of both sexes, being physically fit, being tall, being white-ish/"light skinned"
      I guess it’s over

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You can easily make yourself more sociable, especially if you don't have social anxiety (autism is not an excuse, autists can be quite social though usually those autists are kind of annoying.)

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What is this one major difference between men who have sex and men who don't?

    AUTISM

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You must not be interesting. Ugly/interesting guys can get pussy.

    You (anyone) must have some positive quality that distinguishes you in order to have sex

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