When did men stop asking women to be their girlfriends with flowers, posters, 'nd gifts or special events?

When did men stop asking women to be their girlfriends with flowers, posters, 'nd gifts or special events? Now they just assume that y'all are dating.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When real monogamy ceased to exist. Youre all just bawds and prostitutes now, there are no girlfriends, no relationships

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why can't you be nice?
      >Youre all just bawds and prostitutes now, there are no girlfriends, no relationships
      There are still women who aren't bawds but everyone's eyes are focused on social media which doesn't represent the real world.

      I thought most women saw all of that as corny nowadays

      What woman do you know finds a man spending his money and time into her "corny" ?

      I always imagined I would do it while we're alone after a fun date or long conversation. Perhaps plan out the whole day before doing it.

      It's nice to know good people still exist

      Why are you asking us? This is the incel board.

      It's the only board I use.

      do guys greet prostitutes with flowers too?

      But a girl you like or your girlfriend isn't a prostitute..

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >What woman do you know finds a man spending his money and time into her "corny" ?
        I know women like it when guys buy shit for them but I got the impression they thought flowers and posters lame and overly dramatic

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well that's not true

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah yeah I know, women aren't all the same, I don't even know why I'm saying this dumb shit anymore

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why can't you stop expecting men to either be a 6'10 vampire rapist millionaire or a Black person you fricking c**t?
        Women stopped rewarding men for being romantic.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >There are still women who aren't bawds but everyone's eyes are focused on social media which doesn't represent the real world.
        They don't leave their house or they hate men usually.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Why can't you be nice?
        Nice guys tend to be "ick" for women and men know that they finish last. This is extremely basic knowledge.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think you forgot about the "actually meeting her" part. But yeah if you get that point it's not that difficult.
          [...]
          >Why can't you be nice?
          Most women assume nice guys are indecisive pushovers and since men usually don't want to beat up someone for the sake of proving otherwise it's not very easy to show.

          None of this is true, anons..

          Well as a horticulture stuudent i give all women who are close to me flowers on their birthdays and such occasions. I would do it on dates too however i never get past a conversation or two before either getting ghosted or fricked over by fate. Hell this girl im into agreed to meet up after the thrid time i tried to set up a date but i can feel im gonna be dissapointed with the outcome.

          Just go on the date, you're going to regret it later on if you don't

          >When did men stop asking women to be their girlfriends with flowers, posters, 'nd gifts or special events? Now they just assume that y'all are dating.

          The girls I knew collected the flowers and letters and put them in a box, as sort of a trophy case of how desired she was. It didn't matter if she didn't really like the guy, it was the token that made her feel good.

          wow

          why would they? no one is looking for a lifelong partner and no one values love. you'd get posted to her groupchat either when it happens, or after you break up. she might even make tiktoks about you. she'll bring up how pathetic you are to the men she's actually attracted to. and it's not like being outwardly chivalrous does any good attraction-wise. write a homemade card with poems and drawings in it for your girlfriend and see how quickly she's turned off. it's not worth it in any way. people think they know what they want but they dont.

          It's extremely obvious you haven't spoken to anyone irl for a while

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Just go on the date, you're going to regret it later on if you don't
            Thats the plan. It's not that i dont want to go but every single time before, the girl always canceled. So i hope this time ill get further.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Social media is the real world now.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >But a girl you like or your girlfriend isn't a prostitute..

        You think the guys who you spread your legs for like you or see you as marriage material? You are merely a willing wet hole that allows attractive men to drain their balls into yourself. Men don't ask out sex toys, they just use them.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought most women saw all of that as corny nowadays

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I always imagined I would do it while we're alone after a fun date or long conversation. Perhaps plan out the whole day before doing it.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are you asking us? This is the incel board.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    do guys greet prostitutes with flowers too?

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I personally stopped after one failed attempt.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      back in 2010

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon..

      Why can't you stop expecting men to either be a 6'10 vampire rapist millionaire or a Black person you fricking c**t?
      Women stopped rewarding men for being romantic.

      >Why can't you stop expecting men to either be a 6'10 vampire rapist millionaire or a Black person you fricking c**t?
      Women stopped rewarding men for being romantic.
      Are you okay? Where are you getting this from? And when did I ever say that? You can not be so brainwashed by media and small interactions with women online, that you believe every single woman on earth is evil or has unrealistically high standards..

      You are asking men who are for the most part never had a date why men who have been dating since they were in high school dont act a certain way in dating.
      This isnt really going to get a very definitive explanation I reckon.

      No, there are men on here who have had romantic interactions, the angry, hatefilled ones are just the loudest

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > hatefilled ones are just the loudest
        Majority. Maybe some who have, but they are probably zoomer tourists and also not a good source of coherent information either.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's mostly the older robots

          Yep, the majority of women are insane, but thank goodness there are still sane, romantic girls like you who aren't loke the other ones.

          What?

          >Then break into their homes or something.. don't actually, but there's still social women who aren't prostitutes
          That's the thing, if you're not in their friend group, you're fricked, there is VERY little ways to actually make friends with strangers nowadays unless you feel like leaving it to chance in which case good luck because we don't have that either.
          [...]
          I'm not your butler, do it yourself.

          Literally just express any sort of romantic interest in her. If she's anti-social she probably hasn't had a lot of interaction with men, and she'd be flattered a male is so much so as acknowledging her irl.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think you forgot about the "actually meeting her" part. But yeah if you get that point it's not that difficult.

            Why can't you be nice?
            >Youre all just bawds and prostitutes now, there are no girlfriends, no relationships
            There are still women who aren't bawds but everyone's eyes are focused on social media which doesn't represent the real world.
            [...]
            What woman do you know finds a man spending his money and time into her "corny" ?
            [...]
            It's nice to know good people still exist
            [...]
            It's the only board I use.
            [...]
            But a girl you like or your girlfriend isn't a prostitute..

            >Why can't you be nice?
            Most women assume nice guys are indecisive pushovers and since men usually don't want to beat up someone for the sake of proving otherwise it's not very easy to show.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Gotta Paleomax, Fren
            >Get in persistence hunting shape
            >Lose almost all higher cognitive function
            >Carry spear
            >Wildly scream like an ape and throw spears at Chad
            You can't lose with this method

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You are asking men who are for the most part never had a date why men who have been dating since they were in high school dont act a certain way in dating.
    This isnt really going to get a very definitive explanation I reckon.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Now they just assume that y'all are dating
    Because that's what most people say even when they don't.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, it's true. They assume you're their gf or message you over text and then think it's over with.

      >There are still women who aren't bawds but everyone's eyes are focused on social media which doesn't represent the real world.
      They don't leave their house or they hate men usually.

      Then break into their homes or something.. don't actually, but there's still social women who aren't prostitutes

      a generation of being mocked and browbeaten for trying to be romantic mixed with a generation of female hyper bawdtery means men just don't see the juice being worth the squeeze, women self sabotaged

      >mocked and browbeaten
      I don't understand the male brain. What types of women are you men meeting that are doing this to you? They're definitely not sane ones. You think just because one or two bad experiences happened with a female means that your life is over and you should die or enter a depressive state and hate women forever.
      But I love you, anons, get better and seek help.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yep, the majority of women are insane, but thank goodness there are still sane, romantic girls like you who aren't loke the other ones.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Then break into their homes or something.. don't actually, but there's still social women who aren't prostitutes
        That's the thing, if you're not in their friend group, you're fricked, there is VERY little ways to actually make friends with strangers nowadays unless you feel like leaving it to chance in which case good luck because we don't have that either.

        Go out there and prove me wrong then homie,

        I'm not your butler, do it yourself.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    a generation of being mocked and browbeaten for trying to be romantic mixed with a generation of female hyper bawdtery means men just don't see the juice being worth the squeeze, women self sabotaged

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ok not all women are hyper bawds, sure deep down they want chad but they are still willing to love and stick with average dudes nonetheless

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ....I can't believe someone would write something this stupid.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Go out there and prove me wrong then homie,

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >ok not all women are hyper bawds
        i didn't specify all women, i was answering the question in the same degree of generality as it was asked in, of course there are exceptions to the hyper bawds same as there are exceptions in traditionally romantic guys

        but it doesn't change the fact that in general women self sabotaged, and the only way to reverse it is if the decent women teach the degens the way forward because society won't accept it being mansplained

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >not all women

        Oh those 'not all men' arguments during metoo were so convincing that you thought you'd get in on the action?

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well as a horticulture stuudent i give all women who are close to me flowers on their birthdays and such occasions. I would do it on dates too however i never get past a conversation or two before either getting ghosted or fricked over by fate. Hell this girl im into agreed to meet up after the thrid time i tried to set up a date but i can feel im gonna be dissapointed with the outcome.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >When did men stop asking women to be their girlfriends with flowers, posters, 'nd gifts or special events? Now they just assume that y'all are dating.

    The girls I knew collected the flowers and letters and put them in a box, as sort of a trophy case of how desired she was. It didn't matter if she didn't really like the guy, it was the token that made her feel good.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why would they? no one is looking for a lifelong partner and no one values love. you'd get posted to her groupchat either when it happens, or after you break up. she might even make tiktoks about you. she'll bring up how pathetic you are to the men she's actually attracted to. and it's not like being outwardly chivalrous does any good attraction-wise. write a homemade card with poems and drawings in it for your girlfriend and see how quickly she's turned off. it's not worth it in any way. people think they know what they want but they dont.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That would be a traditional move reserved for tradition women.
    It depends how the person acts/is, most modern women don't deserve that kind of treatment.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's embarrassing to put it all on the line and do all these grandiose romantic gestures for women that have already been known in the most intimate and vulnerable ways and fricked by other men. That sort of treatment is reserved for loyal virgins. I want it to be something special and meaningful that's related to the special bond that we share that nobody else can lay claim to, not just some jestermaxx song and dance to be the next dude to ride you for a little while

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only women left in the United States that want proper actual relationships with masculine men like what OP is talking about are obese.

    There are men that would do things like that, but they need to be motivated. Nobody is going to be motivated by the 175 pound woman you're ashamed to be seen in public with like in the Plapjack memes. The juice is not worth the squeeze, like with most of the topics on this board. Nobody ever wants to make a fricking moron out of themselves doing embarrassing corny shit like buying a bouquet of flowers, unless the girl they are dating looks like this basically. If you look way shittier than this, you should be lucky I'm even trying to go out with you.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >flowers, posters, 'nd gifts or special events
    I did all this for my ex gf and more.
    In 6 years she never got me a single gift for me kek.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When women stopped being exclusive with the man trying to woo them. Why would I do all that for a woman who has 10 other dudes already lined up? Even here, on this board, where women claim to be oh so lonely they have multiple men in their DMs. No, thank you. I will die alone before participating.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not OP but this board, which is for people that have been treated bad by normies (IMO), has a majority of posters that would use somebody as a practice gf, then dump them when a better opportunity comes along. Most people on this board claim to hate normies, yet yearn to be a normie themselves, it's disgusting the hypocrisy on here.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, some men also participate in disgusting behavior.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Now they just assume that y'all are dating.
    Wha... what the frick? That's your line! You dumb bawds always want to know if we're dating when you catch feels. Hahahah! Yeah, sure, we're dating, and you're my only love too. Dumbfrick. Ahahahahaha!

    Loving a hoe? Not even once.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why are men putting in less effort to court fat bawds and of prostitutes with romantic gestures
    Who knows

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ask a dumb question
    >get an answer
    >"uhhhhh just no! Its all in your head chud!"

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The short answer anon is that I haven't stopped but, many people gave because sex is no longer tied to love. Many young men and women want sex- not love- because love is not easy where as sex is.
    So basically you have to find a boy who is a romantic if you're also a romantic, this usually means a lot of wasted dates if you go the dating app route

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >materialist drivel from a 14 yo girl

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would we do these elaborate romantic gestures for women who sell nudes of themselves for the price of a cheeseburger and have sucked 10+ dicks since they turned 13?

    Modern women behave like 1950s sailors with how much they swear, drink and get tattoos. They're not ladylike at all

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Blame the women's sexual liberation.
    Once women started fricking more men than prostitutes do, drinking more than alcoholic hobos do, and wasting more money than their mothers do men realized that there's no point in putting in any effort.
    Sure that cute demure girl doesn't look like she acts like those other prostitutes, but you've met other cute demure girls who do and that's enough for men to say
    >nah bro

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Sure that cute demure girl doesn't look like she acts like those other prostitutes, but you've met other cute demure girls who do and that's enough for men to say nah bro
      ding ding ding winrar

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Once women started fricking more men than prostitutes do, drinking more than alcoholic hobos do, and wasting more money than their mothers do

      Why would we do these elaborate romantic gestures for women who sell nudes of themselves for the price of a cheeseburger and have sucked 10+ dicks since they turned 13?

      Modern women behave like 1950s sailors with how much they swear, drink and get tattoos. They're not ladylike at all

      >Modern women behave like 1950s sailors with how much they swear, drink and get tattoos. They're not ladylike at all
      These traits are so true it hurts. Best I can do is treat them like men (Which we are supposed to do? Not sure what's the narrative right now.).

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When that shit became expensive.
    >inb4 just go pick a flower outside
    I live in a concrete jungle hell hole with no signs of vegetation or foliage.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've said this before, but basically when women are no longer virginal it makes no sense for men to "court" them like they used to. For what reason would you treat another man's former cumrag with that much dignity?

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably when women stopped being modest virgins. If I liked a woman and I knew she was a virgin I would obviously get her flowers and chocolates and stuff like that.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've said this before, but basically when women are no longer virginal it makes no sense for men to "court" them like they used to. For what reason would you treat another man's former cumrag with that much dignity?

      Blame the women's sexual liberation.
      Once women started fricking more men than prostitutes do, drinking more than alcoholic hobos do, and wasting more money than their mothers do men realized that there's no point in putting in any effort.
      Sure that cute demure girl doesn't look like she acts like those other prostitutes, but you've met other cute demure girls who do and that's enough for men to say
      >nah bro

      Why would we do these elaborate romantic gestures for women who sell nudes of themselves for the price of a cheeseburger and have sucked 10+ dicks since they turned 13?

      Modern women behave like 1950s sailors with how much they swear, drink and get tattoos. They're not ladylike at all

      >But a girl you like or your girlfriend isn't a prostitute..

      You think the guys who you spread your legs for like you or see you as marriage material? You are merely a willing wet hole that allows attractive men to drain their balls into yourself. Men don't ask out sex toys, they just use them.

      These all nailed it. Women don't act traditional anymore, but want men to act traditional. Nope.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP gave up we won

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