When people tell men to lower their standards, isn't that just a nice way of telling men to date fat women?

When people tell men to lower their standards, isn't that just a nice way of telling men to date fat women? Is it worth it?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    being fat as a woman signals (often permanent) fertility problems due to hormonal imbalances

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This isn't even a little bit true.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        except it is 100% true, morbidly obese women dont even get periods
        and it obliterates egg quality so the damage is permanent even after losing weight

        as little as 20 pounds over the ideal weight reduces fertility by 10%, and it ramps up exponentially from there
        by the time youve reached obesity you have permanently nuked your fertility

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Explain reduce fertility by 10%. Do you have a citation, and do you understand what that even means if you have one?
          I got a feeling if we explore this enough along the things we'll discover is you're one of those who don't actually understand percents properly and what I means when we say things like "10% reduction"

          You're taking an extremely univariate approach to an extremely complex problem.
          This tells me you have the brain if a 15 year old who did not do well in school.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            cope harder fatty

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wow you sure showed me.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Based. Never bother seriously talking to bad-faith fatties.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            stay mad

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          somebody doesn't know about the frick stick

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hoky frick you're an idiot

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Isn’t it the opposite (assuming we don’t mean literal jabba the hut)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no, thats a myth
        nobody really knows what the venus figurines were, but theyre definitely not depictions of hot women

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not really, there's also ugly or ethnic women or women with a huge bodycount. There's plenty of factors that make women unattractive

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even those women will reject you

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its the natural recourse for modern women who spend their days whoring themselves out via tiktok for attention and have no actual personality. Men want a high value woman without a huge sexual history, and the eventual result of women "enjoying their youth" is that the bodies pile up and they get engaged in stupid social media stuff and believe they are worth more than they are. Then they cannot find a man who wants them and to cope they echo things like what you said above. Its sad but true.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no it's the nice way of telling a lot of you that you're not going to date a pornstar or an instragram baddie

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no it's the nice way of telling a lot of you that you're not going to date a pornstar or an instragram baddie
      I haven't seen a single guy who had that expectation. Go to a board like NSFFW or soc where women pop up, the men simp endlessly for any mid chick that appears.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I haven't seen a single guy who had that expectation
        Theres a thread on this board up right now of a guy asking if he should break up with a girl who dislikes swallowing cum and won't fo anal

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds like that's more about them not being sexually compatible. Women wouldn't want a guy that doesn't consume her pussy fluid.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you a virgin? Because "consumption of pussy fluid" isnt a normal thing. Youve never eaten pussy have you?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you're more moronic than the average woman if you think men want to date porn stars..

      When people tell women to lower their standards, does it mean to date an ugly loser, the kind that live here and start threads on fat women?

      Tip: I'm sure fat women don't want you either.

      Also, yes I'm a femanon who has had many bfs so I definitely know how to spot loser males. You're one.

      Having had lots of bfs really just signals that you have some kind of mental issues, or some other problem that causes you to pick bad mates, or attract them.
      It'd be like me bragging about knowing you're a fat femcel, since I've fricked so many.

      Nta but there are plenty of women out there. Maybe look at why none of them are interested in you, instead? Are you so moronic that you can't even date ugly thin girls?

      Telling people to date others they find unattractive solves nothing, frick off.
      Yeah women can do that, but men have to get hard for sex and reproduction.
      If a woman is so ugly she can't make a man cum she's literally useless trash, even ugly 1/10 pigmen can rape a 10/10 stacy and produce a 5/10 taxpayer.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Edgy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Having had lots of bfs really just signals that you have some kind of mental issues, or some other problem that causes you to pick bad mates, or attract them.
        >It'd be like me bragging about knowing you're a fat femcel, since I've fricked so many.

        1. I'm not bragging, you're just jealous because no one will ever want you.
        2. Why would you assume I fricked them all?
        3.
        >fat femcel
        >since I've fricked so many
        (are you actually THIS moronic? Yeah, you are! Yes, you are! Bwahahahahahaha

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We don't say "Fat men are beautiful"

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why should hotter women settle for you, when you won't settle for fat girls?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why should hotter women settle for you, when you won't settle for fat girls?
      Well I never said anything about hot women, but this is a good example of how people try to make men out to have unreasonable standards. We don't want fat ugly women therefore we are only focused on the 10/10s, but of course that's not true. This is just a way to sidestep the reality of average women having way more options and value than average men, because admitting to this would be confirmation of incel/redpill talking points.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's up to you. Do you want to keep waiting or do you want to settle?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’s not sidestepping anything. You’re exactly right, and that’s why it’s good advice. “Settle for less, or die alone” is the choice that men have to face.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It’s not sidestepping anything
          It absolutely is. Not side stepping would be saying "Even average women are very difficult to get, let alone attractive ones. You might have to settle for a fat ugly woman if you don't want to die alone."

          While the other narrative explicitly tries to make men out to have unreasonably high standards.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Men don't have high standard. That's why women do so well.
            But incels do have high standards. That's the problem. You got virgin vince crying about how he'll never have a girlfriend but he considers anything less than the cheerleader captain to be settling and a cope.
            The "lower your standards" advice isn't a general thing directed at all dudes, it's just for morons who actually *do* have their standards too high.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don’t feel confident in making a claim like that, since I’m not The Average Woman.
            It may very well be true, but I don’t want to speak for others. That’s just keeping my perspective humble and realistic.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why is it that every average person, man or woman, that I know IRL has a partner? The only people I know who are single are either 1. Divorced with a young child; 2. Highly attractive but insane; 3. Checked out middle-aged men

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not saying it like average people don't pair up, but for the typical young guy completely on the outside of dating, its very hard to get into the game and get with a decent looking woman who isn't fat. A average woman may choose to be with an average man, but that's after sorting through the dozens of options she already has, that's what makes it so hard. You're on the outside trying to get picked out of 100 men, many who are better than you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but for the typical young guy completely on the outside of dating,
            Ah, now we're getting somewhere. That's just it. The "typical young guy" is NOT on the outside of dating. This is a frame of reference issue.
            > You're on the outside trying to get picked out of 100 men, many who are better than you
            There shouldn't BE that many men who are so much better than you. If there are, you're likely doing something very wrong, as the average man is nothing special. If you have to be some millionaire gigachad to compete, then that just shows that you are NOT going after "average women" despite your protests to the contrary. Be better or stay in your lane.

            The people you're talking about met through social circles. For people without that, they have to resort to dating apps or cold approaching strangers. In either case, the looks bar for success is much higher and average men don't really have a shot with average women through those methods.

            The people you're talking about met through social circles.
            Here we have another subtle goalpost shift. Yeah maybe they did, but that's just it. The average person DOES (or at the very least, SHOULD) have social circles, yes. If you don't, it's likely your own fault.
            A lot of you guys really are playing on hard mode here, but you also choose to play on hard and don't seem to realize it. But of course, still complain anyway.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The "typical young guy" is NOT on the outside of dating.
            That's not what I said. We are specifically talking about the men on the outside, not saying its the case for most men. I think we all know how hard it can be to start dating from that position, but some people run with the narrative that these guys have crazy high standards to avoid acknowledging the inherent imbalance between the value of men and women on the same level of attractiveness.

            >There shouldn't BE that many men who are so much better than you
            It doesn't take very many. Remember she has to even acknowledge you and take you into consideration. You're the outside trying to get in, you present yourself but shes already talking to someone if she doesn't have a boyfriend already. I'm just saying its hard because women are already knee deep in options when you shoot your shot.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm just saying its hard because women are already knee deep in options when you shoot your shot.
            And? So are you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >And? So are you.
            Are you moronic?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nta but there are plenty of women out there. Maybe look at why none of them are interested in you, instead? Are you so moronic that you can't even date ugly thin girls?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh I'm not saying I could never land a girl, but to imply that I have options that I can readily all upon like a girl is lunacy. There is a female on the planet interested in me at this moment in time, but girls always have guys orbiting and chasing them, or at least looking with interest.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >There isn't* a female on the planet interested in me
            oof

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > but girls always have guys orbiting and chasing them, or at least looking with interest.
            Maybe, but why should this stop you?
            It doesn’t matter if 10 or 100 simps are watching from a distance, you win if you ask her out first.
            And it’s hardly the girl’s fault for accumulating orbiters, it just happens to women by existing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well now we're kinda missing the point, this isn't suppose to be about me, I'm just making an observation on how men are expected to settle for fat women and the lie about us having ridiculous standards.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >expected to settle for fat women
            Again, skinny girls date average men all the time, so this isn’t true.
            >us having ridiculous standards
            You’re right on this, it’s just that the loudest and most opinionated men give other men a bad reputation. coomers ruin everything.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Again, skinny girls date average men all the time, so this isn’t true.
            Yeah but that doesn't matter. When people tell men to lower our standards, they are always thinking about fat girls.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I have no idea where you got this impression, unless you think any woman who’s heavier than a fashion model is “fat”.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I keep bringing up fat girls because everyone else is secretly thinking about them!
            Uhh ok

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So you have one of two problems here.
            Either you have just as many options, but you're not confident enough to realize it.
            Or, you really don't have any options yourself, which means you are not "average", let alone above, you are below average and therefore so should be the women you date.
            Both scenarios are your problem to fix, but also within your power to do so.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah I don't think that's it. Even average guys are basically invisible unless they are already in the game with a nice social circle or actively chasing women. I'm doing neither.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Even average guys are basically invisible
            This is cope, why is the average man able to get a gf then and you can't? But let's say you're right. Ok fine, whatever, be above average then. If the average guy is "invisible", then beating out that shouldn't be too hard.
            >in the game with a nice social circle or actively chasing women. I'm doing neither.
            Ok great, well guess what, that's YOUR fault then. You're supposed to talk to women, and you're supposed to have friends ANYWAY, for your own sake, never mind the women.
            >wtf bro I'm doing nothing and getting nothing
            >how could this happen to me??
            Every time.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >We are specifically talking about the men on the outside, not saying its the case for most men.
            These threads are always presented as if it's the case for most men though. To the extent that schizo incels claim that 60% of men are virgins and there is systemic oppression of men in place to prevent them from dating.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but shes already talking to someone if she doesn't have a boyfriend already
            This is just you talking yourself out of making the attempt, anon
            It’s ok to try and be turned down, but don’t turn yourself down in your head before even trying!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The people you're talking about met through social circles. For people without that, they have to resort to dating apps or cold approaching strangers. In either case, the looks bar for success is much higher and average men don't really have a shot with average women through those methods.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I feel like if you don't have circles that should be a priority.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In my exp. this goes for almost everything in life. You can do pretty much anything solo, but everything is much much easier if you have friends/help. Picture yourself in caveman days, you wouldn't last long flying solo.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >This is just a way to sidestep the reality of average women having way more options and value than average men,
        You are not "average men" though, you guys suck. I would tell below average women the exact same thing; they can try to hold out for Mr. Wonderful all they want but they're not going to get him, and nor should they.
        I'm sure you don't disagree with that part, but you don't have seem to have a problem with guys going after above their level "for some reason".

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I, and I assume most others posting here, are definitely average or above-average looks-wise. If you're talking about the whole package then sure, having no rizz/game pulls me down below average despite my looks. But you have to understand how demeaning it is for someone who has busted their ass in the gym for years, put a ton of effort into their appearance and advanced far in their career to settle for some whale just because my body language or speaking cadence gives normal girls the ick.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I, and I assume most others posting here, are definitely average or above-average looks-wise.
            Well that's a very interesting assumption.
            The funny thing is, I actually agree with you here. But it clashes with how incels here always self-report about their looks doesn't it? The guys who can't get women here would have you believe they're all deformed freaks, which I have NEVER bought. They're just not good looking enough to get girls from their looks alone which is how they seem to think it's supposed to work.
            If you've done all that then I don't think you should settle for some whale. But I do think you might have to settle for some plain or average, possibly awkward, semi-fit but not fat girl. That is your looksmatch. Not the "average" girl, not the girl you refer to as average who is actually well above average.
            If you want the prom queen, cheerleader captain, or fitness influencer, then yeah, just "busting your ass" in the gym and not being an ugly lardo isn't enough. You MAY have to learn how to actually talk to women and show your confidence and charisma, excuse me, in zoomer speak have "rizz" and not give "the ick".
            I really don't think that's an unreasonable expectation. You should be doing that anyway.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >some whale
            I don’t get this meme. Average guys date average women all the time.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You are not "average men" though, you guys suck
          Well I can't blame you for making that assumption on NSFFW, but a lot of the guys here are relatively average. And honestly the expectation for men to settle for fat women applies to average men as well. You could be fit and people would still try to convince you to date fat women.
          >I would tell below average women the exact same thing; they can try to hold out for Mr. Wonderful
          See you did it again. You went from 0 to 100, this strawman of everyone wanting a 10/10 model partner and not settling for less.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You went from 0 to 100, this strawman of everyone wanting a 10/10 model partner and not settling for less.
            How is it a strawman? It's borderline a direct quote. Look here:

            I'm not saying it like average people don't pair up, but for the typical young guy completely on the outside of dating, its very hard to get into the game and get with a decent looking woman who isn't fat. A average woman may choose to be with an average man, but that's after sorting through the dozens of options she already has, that's what makes it so hard. You're on the outside trying to get picked out of 100 men, many who are better than you.

            >You're on the outside trying to get picked out of 100 men, many who are better than you.
            This is the issue. There shouldn't be so many men better than you.
            Plop me into a room with 100 other guys, and I will guarantee you I am objectively better than 90 of them. Who gets the girl between me and the remaining 10 will be determined by who clicks with her the best and just who got there first.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >This is just a way to sidestep the reality of average women having way more options and value than average men, because admitting to this would be confirmation of incel/redpill talking points.

        Everyone knows that women have more options than men. Most men will frick anyone, just to frick. Why are you so stupid? This is the natural order of things, it's even true in nature.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    On its own, being somewhat fat or "chubby" wouldn't be that bad. The thing is though that fat women tend to be mentally ill, arrogant and have no self control which makes them promiscuous and more likely to cheat. They're also agressive and violent and because they're lazy and can't do without stuffing their faces you can't really go anywhere with them.

    Not being into fat women isn't about them not looking good, but all the baggage that comes with it. It's not like fat men who're usually just gamers.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. It's not.
    Any more questions?

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    more or less, men are told to work on themselves and never lower their standards while women have swung from being told they're ugly to being told to never compromise or improve
    weird world

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      always*
      I said never because I am moron thanks for reading

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When people tell women to lower their standards, does it mean to date an ugly loser, the kind that live here and start threads on fat women?

    Tip: I'm sure fat women don't want you either.

    Also, yes I'm a femanon who has had many bfs so I definitely know how to spot loser males. You're one.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      YWNBAW

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. Don't do it.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    slightly fat women are the best. OP is low test

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You know the best build women can have? Being well rounded in fat in every region of their body, from top to bottom. Not being overly full of fat but not being a twink either but being well rounded. Those women are the most beautiful. Especially when you plap them in their life holes. Although you gotta watch out they dont become pigs after pregnancy. Think of like the hour-glass build and fill in her waist. That's what I'm talking about

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't see how anyone can find overweight people at all attractive.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most of the time I hear the opposite. People tell women to lower their standards, not men.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      True. All men are emotionally dead inside. The guys in romcoms are always a thing of pure fiction, those kind of guys don't exist. Most men are like OP, a complete loser, no emotional IQ, low intelligence (can't even find a woman to date),ugly, cruel, superficial, wannabe alphas, perverts, pedos, etc etc. Every woman has to settle somewhat. No woman is ever going to give OP a chance, thank god.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just fricking give up, no woman of any size will ever frick you. You're obviously ugly and you have a terrible character, you're too stupid to even find a woman... how do you even survive?

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. Look around on this board alone and you'll see where some people's standards are at.

    >Tattoos
    Degenerate
    >Had a boyfriend previously
    prostitute
    >Never had a boyfriend
    Lying prostitute
    >Even slightly overweight
    Landwhale
    >Brown
    Black person
    >25+
    Post-wall roastie
    >Kids
    Failure

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > I want to live like a consumerist slop without repercussion

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do not lower your standards. Nobody wants to date a two faced hypocrite who don't actually likes them
    Its more about keeping your standards realistic, down to earth. Some sort of basic understanding of human psychology should be present as to what is possible and what is not. I've only ever heard about lowering your standards in regards to finding virgin wife or something to be honest. But it doesnt actually tell anything, people are just tired of people who make it arbitrarily difficult for themselves them complaining that it is in fact difficult. If you set a high standard, do not expect that type of woman to fall into your lap. All things worth having require work, require struggle.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's mostly a way of making sure men keep blaming themselves instead of blaming the rigged system that is modern dating

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not "rigged" just because you can't compete.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wouldn't say its rigged but its definitely imbalanced. And I think a lot of people don't want to acknowledge the advantages women have over men in dating.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All the good looking women who would make great wives and mothers are taken in high school and college the latest. Whatever remains is taken shortly after they enter the workforce. There exist very few good looking (7 and above) women that are single and have a good heart, are modest, raised in a decent family, soft spoken and pretty. The window of opportunity when they are single is very very narrow. These are the 2% of women, the highest stock of females this wonderful creation can offer. If you don't frequent their circles or the events they attend you have no chance of meeting them. Women also don't go anywhere alone, so whatever hobbies women have or events they attend it is done with their husband or boyfriend and if they are single with their groups of friends.

    tldr; there simply aren't enough single good looking young white women to go around for everybody, they are rare and exist mostly in very niche places where men without social circles (loners) can't get in to

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >All the good looking women who would make great wives and mothers
      Are YOU a good looking man?
      Would YOU make a good husband or father?
      (Well, "you" are a bot so it's a moot point, but the question stands for the actual anons you were programmed to demoralize.)

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fat women are for cheap sex, you're not supposed to settle for them. They're slampigs you purchase with a 12 piece chicken nugget meal.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean if you're already going in with a mindset of "I'm going to settle for less." How the frick do you even live with yourself like that? Like that's not good for your relationship, it's not good for your mental health and dare I say it it's not fair towards your SO.

    So yes, you are then better off alone.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd take a fat woman at this point. I just want a woman who loves me

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Huh, I guess that's also a way of looking at it. I kinda take back what I said here:

      I mean if you're already going in with a mindset of "I'm going to settle for less." How the frick do you even live with yourself like that? Like that's not good for your relationship, it's not good for your mental health and dare I say it it's not fair towards your SO.

      So yes, you are then better off alone.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Non-fat men are told to settle for fat women
    >Fat women are never told to settle and instead that they deserve better
    many such cases. feminist shithole world.

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