Why are women like this?

>be clear with your intentions from the get go
>ick he only wants sex and its disgusting
>get to know her as friends first and then ask her out
>POV the sneaky nice guy is gonna destroy your friendship

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You have to to let your intentions of intimacy clear without saying anything directly sexual or dirty. Is this hard to understand?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >be me
      >be asian
      >ambiguos attempts at flirting brushed off as a joke
      >direct attempts at flirting considered lewd and uncalled for

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The woman may not like you. Also depends on what you said. Give a greentext of what you did

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'l tell you exactly how it went down most of the time:
          >1) Since I was a little kid I could talk to girls almost effortlessly, I happy-go-lucky kid who wasn't nervous, didn't stutter and at you'd want one point I had more girl "friends" than I did male buddies.
          >2) Despite still being an incel women were rarely creeped out by me. I wasn't the ugliest asian, as I took care of myself, I
          ho are turnt wasn't ripped, but I had a nice smile, thick head of hair, clear skin and was relatively tall.
          >3) Women would giggle at my silly jokes, they would reach out for advice and immedately saw me as a confidant, you know, the type of guy women claim they want? A guy they can talk about anything.
          >3) Up to this point everything was pointing into the direction most normies would think are pretty surefire indicators that the girl could be interested, right? Texting me first, asking me to hang out 1 on 1, getting touchy with me.
          >4) It all turned out, emerged as a pattern with all of them, that they were relaxed and giddy around me because the idea of an asian man even thinking he would have a chance with them was completely unrealistic. I realized I was the goofball sidekick not the guy who fricks her.
          >5) The most soul crushing part was that sometimes the girls would turn the convo sexual, not because they' wanted to give me a hint to escalate things, but because they felt as if they were talking to one of their girl friends.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not the other guy, but what are you confused about exactly? You already know that you were the asexual best friend, and obviously they don't want to frick a guy who's like that. They may have given you alot of attention but it was the kind they'd give to their girl besties, and the reason they were giddy or touchy was probably more to do with them ovulating.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well, when I asked you to greentext, I asked for you to tell what you said or did here:
            attempts at flirting brushed off as a joke
            attempts at flirting considered lewd and uncalled for
            (TA) I had the same situation happening with me, but instead of a group, it was only one girl. She would literally rest her head on my lap in a public park bench btw. Your problem(and mine) was simple: you stayed around so much that they saw you as one of them. The truth is, men shouldn't really be deep friends with women. If you do want to have women friends, make it as superficial as possible. Find them, say some funny things, get out. You have to act quickly, but precisely when it comes to this. Read the room too. Sometimes the woman is not attracted to you, there is nothing that can be done.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            many anons here cant really relate to these scenarios because theyre socially inept weirdos who cannot talk to women. It is one thing to creep women out from the go because you have bad social skills but at least then you can cope with the idea that maybe working on your personality is what you lack but I think it is truly devastating when you can talk to girls only to find out women like you as a person but are still disgusted by the thought of having sex with you. it simply destroys any hope you might have entertained.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > The most soul crushing part was that sometimes the girls would turn the convo sexual, not because they' wanted to give me a hint to escalate things, but because they felt as if they were talking to one of their girl friends.
            I've had some success by reacting to this situation as if they are the one being the sexual creep and overstepping boundaries in their hamfisted flirting.
            I think it's just women often not knowing why they do things, so if you (gently) shut them down for flirting with you (even if they weren't), they sometimes convince themselves they must like you after reviewing the friendship, and then really do start flirting.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wait your supposed to dick her before knowing her? Women are such animalistic morons

        >let your intentions of intimacy clear without saying anything directly sexual or dirty.
        How? How do you do this? I cannot bring myself to be anything more than friendly to women I like.

        if you have to ask you are either painfully naive or a serial killer

        You only do want sex though. What's sad is that you think you are making your intentions clear by lies that are so so obvious, yet you don't even try like real men with gestures that have actual effort behind them that makes us feel wanted and chased. Where is my date in restaurant or trip at the beach? Nowhere because men nowadays are truly low testosterone b***hes. It's so digusting, it goes beyond NSFFW incels too...

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You only do want sex though
          Sex is gross and unironically scares the frick out of me.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I know right, men truly only want one thing, and it's really fricking disgusting. I am sad.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What are you even talking about? I literally just said I'm a man who finds sex gross. You got the wrong meme.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Trolls don't spend more than 3 seconds between seeing your reply and beginning to type default_ragebait_04

            >You have to to let your intentions of intimacy clear without saying anything directly sexual or dirty. Is this hard to understand?
            That's actually impossible to understand since those two things can't exist together

            [...]
            [...]
            >Give a greentext of what you did
            Yeah, give a greentext of what you said/did, anon

            [...]
            >I'm misogynistic but I can't fault that. I wouldn't want to get immediately sexual with a long-term relationship.
            Who said anything about getting immediately sexual? Do you think if someone even mentions sex that means they want to have sex right now and the only thing they're interested in is sex? Because that's fricking moronic if so

            >That's actually impossible to understand since those two things can't exist together
            You think it's logically impossible to convey your desire for intimacy/relationship without explicitly saying something dirty?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You think it's logically impossible to convey your desire for intimacy/relationship without explicitly saying something dirty?
            Yes? Are you moronic? You're asking if you have to explicitly say something in order to convey it clearly? Yes, yes you do, of course you do

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are YOU moronic?
            Not being able to read between the lines and understand what is implicitly being said is something that autistic people struggle with.
            Signalling the desire to engage romantically in some way implies that if things go well there should be sexual contact at some point down the line, which could be as soon as a few hours if you are just hooking up, or much later on.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Not being able to read between the lines and understand what is implicitly being said is something that autistic people struggle with.
            Having to read in between the lines is the OPPOSITE of BEING CLEAR

            >Signaling the desire to engage romantically
            >Signaling
            homosexual

            [...]
            Holy autism Batman. Damn.

            >Holy autism Batman. Damn.
            You realize that back in my day, it was normal to just speak your mind, not "autistic?" (And I'm only 30)

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Having to read in between the lines is the OPPOSITE of BEING CLEAR
            You are CLEAR that you want to engage romantically rather than just professionally or platonically.
            You are IMPLYING that you also want sex because sex is socially understood to be a normal part of relationships.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ambiguity and plausible deniability lets everyone save face in these interactions.
            Usually what you want to do is leave things open to interpretation and pay attention to which way she chooses to move the conversation.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Ambiguity and plausible deniability lets everyone save face in these interactions
            absolutely this except i don't want to save face id rather throw a grenade and risk rejection and the awkwardness than kowtow norms and expectations

            i don't understand why its so hard for people to understand that there is no one size fits all, and that you should be aiming to simply act the way you want to be known and filter out as well as attract a select few. Anyway you go goes as long as you are putting yourself on the map

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >except i don't want to save face id rather throw a grenade and risk rejection and the awkwardness than kowtow norms and expectations
            Exactly. Thank you, anon, for writing my reply for me

            Ambiguity and plausible deniability lets everyone save face in these interactions.
            Usually what you want to do is leave things open to interpretation and pay attention to which way she chooses to move the conversation.

            >Usually what you want to do is leave things open to interpretation and pay attention to which way she chooses to move the conversation.
            I don't want to leave things to interpretation, I want to be as clear as humanly possible. I don't care which way she moves the conversation, I don't care if she says yes or no, it doesn't matter as long as I made myself clear. If she says no, we can go on with out conversation and our friendship just like nothing happened. And then tomorrow I'll ask her to sit on my face again, because why not?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Vnr.

            This is why mom doesn't love you.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >risk rejection
            You're not "risking rejection", you're being too much of a social moron to pick up on the abundant cues that your advances are unwanted before you even make them and boorishly forcing someone to explain it to you explicitly.
            Maybe if you're able to intimidate someone to be fearful of saying no, you might occasionally manage to rape a girl... but you probably see that as a victory and don't understand why that b***h went around telling lies about you.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Okay.
            So you're an inconsiderate butthole and lack the cachet to pull it off.
            Keep doing what you're doing, anon.
            I'm sure you'll get a different result Real Soon Now.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm sure you'll get a different result Real Soon Now
            I did, and you would too. I don't really care give a frick if I come off as whatever you think of me, its what I am.

            But if you read the beautiful wisdom on second half of my post you'd understand that my way works just as well as any other way the only difference is it allows me to be authentic to myself and I want that more than I want anything else.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I love how moids get into such last resort denial they try to deduce my views as a "troll" or "ragebait". Sure, i like it. You can see it that way, at least you cry about it, cuck.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            a man who calls other men moids, you have got to be the biggest fricking homosexual that's ever graced this board. please at least be gay so that we can fully disown you and throw you to the wolves, you prolapsed queer.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            unless you actually are female in which case fricking have a nice day, your life is an even bigger waste than the moids you disdain because you willingly choose to come to a place FULL of them and talk shit as if it's going to accomplish anything

            waahhh waahhhhh
            cry more about it cryyyy

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            unless you actually are female in which case fricking have a nice day, your life is an even bigger waste than the moids you disdain because you willingly choose to come to a place FULL of them and talk shit as if it's going to accomplish anything

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >men truly only want one thing, and it's really fricking disgusting
            Then wash it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >buy me stuff
          >I demand stuff in exchange for sex
          >WTF what do you mean im a prostitute
          >reeee men only want sex

          All women are prostitutes, if you have to pay then you have the right to treat her like a worthless bawd, most of them like it like that anyway.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Where is my date in restaurant or trip at the beach?

          That's beta cuck simp shit. You make your own money now, I'm not paying for anything.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Where is my date in restaurant or trip at the beach?
          Where is MY date in a restaurant or trip at the beach?
          The era of women passively getting by waiting for a man to do all the work is over, sweetcheeks.
          You have to pretend to be an equal and reciprocate.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Or else what? I am just going to find someone who will love me and will do this without a hesitation. Unlike you, lazy and entitled, who will stay alone for his own aggressive narcissism. I really hope you will be okay soon sweetie.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            844wj

            >those grapes are probably sour anyway

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I am more valuable than you because i have a vegana. Buy me stuff and provide entertainment and in return you'll receive nothing
          have a nice day

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lol yeah asian guys are only allowed to be asexual best friends.
        you WILL not get the white pussy

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          only israeli women like me for some reason.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I live in London and I have seen racial pairings that you people wouldn't believe.
          Short, dark skinned south Indians walking around hand in hand with 8/10 British babes.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Short, dark skinned south Indians walking around hand in hand with 8/10 British babes.
            Looksmatch. An 8/10 bongette is like a three compared to white women generally.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >be asian
        That is the problem, anon!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        attempts at flirting brushed off as a joke
        This was a way for you to get the message she's not interested without the awkwardness of being explicitly rejected.
        attempts at flirting considered lewd and uncalled for
        Because you ignored the feedback she provided at the previous step and tried to take an even bigger step. homie what is you doin'.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          then why do these prostitutes say they want a guy they can talk to as if it were some sort of a deal maker when it comes to picking a guy. It makes no sense to friendzone a guy you can actually talk to.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It makes no sense to friendzone a guy you can actually talk to.
            Well it kinda does if you're trying to keep him in your pocket until later..

            Yeah, I think prolly most of these cases are women who see that the guy is a good option, but also they're not quite done whoring yet. So they hope they can stash you in their back pocket until they're ready to settle down

            This is something guys used to do (and prolly still do) all the time, but a lot of the time, guys had the balls to straight up tell the girls what the deal was. Girls pretty much never tell their back pocket guys what the deal is. prostitutes

            Also, guys would gladly frick their back pocket girls from start to finish, meanwhile girls seem to think they should withhold their pussy from their back pocket guys

            I suspect this is all because girls are moronic, essentially

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            As my dad always says "God fricked up! He shoulda given them some of our brain instead of one of our ribs!"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why do women want to emasculate asian men so bad?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        haha keep demoralising asian guys
        just ignore all the great asian guys out there in 2024 getting qt white girls

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >let your intentions of intimacy clear without saying anything directly sexual or dirty.
      How? How do you do this? I cannot bring myself to be anything more than friendly to women I like.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Guess you dont like women then homosexual

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Life would be so much easier if that were the case.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Asking if the woman is single and saying that you are single is already a huge step. I don't think it can get as clear as this. Talking about love in a lighthearted kinda of way does it too.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Asking if the woman is single and saying that you are single is already a huge step.
          Ohhhh that's why they always get so excited and shit. I feel like facepalming again.
          Another one for the manual I guess.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You think it's logically impossible to convey your desire for intimacy/relationship without explicitly saying something dirty?
            Yes? Are you moronic? You're asking if you have to explicitly say something in order to convey it clearly? Yes, yes you do, of course you do

            Holy autism Batman. Damn.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I made the clown post but now I am arguing with that other anon because he is even more autistic than me.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            (TA) Is this supposed to be ironic or what? I actually couldn't tell. The most important move to make on a woman you know nothing about is asking if she is single. When you are contacting her through connections, like friends or family, this is not necessary, obviously.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Is this supposed to be ironic or what?
            No, I have been in this kind of situation quite a few times. Including with women asking me if I was single.
            I only caught wind of it recently when I was talking to a group of women and one of them was single and her friend directly suggested that we "bond" after everyone publicly revealed their relationship status.
            But it wasn't until reading your post that things really clicked into place.
            >The most important move to make on a woman you know nothing about is asking if she is single.
            Yeah, got the memo now. Guess I never learned proper social interaction due to being isolated as a kid. When I became interested in talking to people I started just shooting questions about them at random.
            Eventually I stopped asking women if they had a boyfriend because they would mostly act negatively to that question.
            >When you are contacting her through connections, like friends or family, this is not necessary, obviously.
            Then what's the proper way to express interest in a woman that you already know is single?
            "Talking about love in a lighthearted kinda of way"?
            Any other options beside that?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Then what's the proper way to express interest in a woman that you already know is single? "Talking about love in a lighthearted kinda of way"? Any other options beside that?
            You can try to play dumb and ask her if she is single anyway(obviously this doesn't work if she knows that you know), other than that, try to find a situation to talk to her in a "normal" way, about hobbies, life and such things. Try to chit chat.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >other than that, try to find a situation to talk to her in a "normal" way, about hobbies, life and such things. Try to chit chat.
            How is a causal chit chat an expression of romantic interest?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            (TA) A man just talking to a woman can be interpreted as romantic interest, obviously read the room and dont become too intimate that you end up friends.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dude, just don't look at them like beasts. try to be direct but without being a fricking creep.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You have to to let your intentions of intimacy clear without saying anything directly sexual or dirty. Is this hard to understand?
      That's actually impossible to understand since those two things can't exist together

      >be me
      >be asian
      >ambiguos attempts at flirting brushed off as a joke
      >direct attempts at flirting considered lewd and uncalled for

      The woman may not like you. Also depends on what you said. Give a greentext of what you did

      >Give a greentext of what you did
      Yeah, give a greentext of what you said/did, anon

      I'm misogynistic but I can't fault that. I wouldn't want to get immediately sexual with a long-term relationship.

      >I'm misogynistic but I can't fault that. I wouldn't want to get immediately sexual with a long-term relationship.
      Who said anything about getting immediately sexual? Do you think if someone even mentions sex that means they want to have sex right now and the only thing they're interested in is sex? Because that's fricking moronic if so

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >That's actually impossible to understand since those two things can't exist together
        (TA) You are so socially inept that you cannot imagine a pick up conversation without anything sexual? Wild. Let me tell you, its possible. Women are not children, although they act a lot like one. When you ask them in a date and make moves, do you think that they don't know what your intentions are? They know that you want sex. You dont need to tell them, to hint. Their mind does the job for you. Act like a normal guy who wants to have a relationship and have fun times, because they know exactly what you want.

        >Yeah, give a greentext of what you said/did, anon
        Idk what point you are trying to make. You are the one that said that you tried game with women. Well, I got curious to know what you said, since you didn't have success. I dont need to give you a greentext, because when I talk women, I talk about normal things. Seriously. Movies, life,vydia(if they like it), shows. All carefully placing words to make them feel comfortable, smart, and to know Im available(its dumb, but women love it)

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You are so socially inept that you cannot imagine a pick up conversation without anything sexual?
          Nope, that's not what was said

          You have to to let your intentions of intimacy clear without saying anything directly sexual or dirty. Is this hard to understand?

          >let your intentions of intimacy clear without saying anything directly sexual or dirty

          If your intentions are sexual/dirty, then the ONLY way of being clear about them is to.. well, be clear about them. If you obfuscate your intentions, then you're not really being fricking clear now are you? This isn't even a fricking argument, it's plain as day shit

          >Idk what point you are trying to make. You are the one that said that you tried game with women
          I never said that shit, must have been a different anon. I didn't even know that you were the same person I replied to originally (or are you..?)

          >I dont need to give you a greentext
          Oh I see, well then kindly go frick yourself, homosexual

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I was assuming that you are the ricecel from

            >be me
            >be asian
            >ambiguos attempts at flirting brushed off as a joke
            >direct attempts at flirting considered lewd and uncalled for

            (every board should have id so this doesn't happen)
            >If you obfuscate your intentions, then you're not really being fricking clear now are you?
            As I said here

            >That's actually impossible to understand since those two things can't exist together
            (TA) You are so socially inept that you cannot imagine a pick up conversation without anything sexual? Wild. Let me tell you, its possible. Women are not children, although they act a lot like one. When you ask them in a date and make moves, do you think that they don't know what your intentions are? They know that you want sex. You dont need to tell them, to hint. Their mind does the job for you. Act like a normal guy who wants to have a relationship and have fun times, because they know exactly what you want.

            >Yeah, give a greentext of what you said/did, anon
            Idk what point you are trying to make. You are the one that said that you tried game with women. Well, I got curious to know what you said, since you didn't have success. I dont need to give you a greentext, because when I talk women, I talk about normal things. Seriously. Movies, life,vydia(if they like it), shows. All carefully placing words to make them feel comfortable, smart, and to know Im available(its dumb, but women love it)

            , they know what your intentions are, homie they are not stupid. You dont go and say "want to frick?" for them to know. Its weird. If you ask them in a date, if you ask them to "come watch Netflix at home with me" they know exactly what your intentions are. They know you want to frick them. Did you even read my post?
            >Oh I see, well then kindly go frick yourself, homosexual.
            Again, I said I dont need to show greentext, because I talk normally to women, it isn't anything special. Do you people really want to see a boring greentext of how a girl got in to me?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I was assuming that you are the ricecel from

            >be me


            >be asian
            >ambiguos attempts at flirting brushed off as a joke
            >direct attempts at flirting considered lewd and uncalled for(every board should have id so this doesn't happen)
            Nope

            >As I said here

            >That's actually impossible to understand since those two things can't exist together


            (TA) You are so socially inept that you cannot imagine a pick up conversation without anything sexual? Wild. Let me tell you, its possible. Women are not children, although they act a lot like one. When you ask them in a date and make moves, do you think that they don't know what your intentions are? They know that you want sex. You dont need to tell them, to hint. Their mind does the job for you. Act like a normal guy who wants to have a relationship and have fun times, because they know exactly what you want.

            >Yeah, give a greentext of what you said/did, anon
            Idk what point you are trying to make. You are the one that said that you tried game with women. Well, I got curious to know what you said, since you didn't have success. I dont need to give you a greentext, because when I talk women, I talk about normal things. Seriously. Movies, life,vydia(if they like it), shows. All carefully placing words to make them feel comfortable, smart, and to know Im available(its dumb, but women love it), they know what your intentions are, homie they are not stupid. You dont go and say "want to frick?" for them to know. Its weird. If you ask them in a date, if you ask them to "come watch Netflix at home with me" they know exactly what your intentions are. They know you want to frick them. Did you even read my post?
            See, you don't understand.. they DON'T know your intentions. They may assume, but they don't know. It's not weird to say "want to frick?" Not everyone is afraid to say what they actually want

            If I were to tell a girl to "come watch Netflix at home with me," then you know what my intentions are? TO WATCH NETFLIX WITH HER. I wouldn't blame her for assuming that was code for "I wanna frick," but she'd be wrong. My intentions are exactly what I say my intentions are

            This is true and correct, yet most socially moronic people in this thread and on this board won't understand what it means and how to do so.
            This is the most successful way you can make any girl your girlfriend.

            >This is true and correct, yet most socially moronic people in this thread and on this board won't understand what it means and how to do so.
            Jesus fricking christ, you realize that you and people like you are the socially moronic ones, not people who actually know how to use their words?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If I were to tell a girl to "come watch Netflix at home with me," then you know what my intentions are? TO WATCH NETFLIX WITH HER. I wouldn't blame her for assuming that was code for "I wanna frick," but she'd be wrong. My intentions are exactly what I say my intentions are
            If you know the subtext of asking a girl to "netflix&chill", then your unceasing quest to be direct and clear should include a clarifying addendum that y'all ain't frickin'.
            For all the other people out there who may be able to pretend to be normal, understand that when you ask a girl over to "netflix&chill" (or any other situation where you will be alone together and fricking would be feasible), that possibility is considered and included when she agrees to your proposition.
            This doesn't mean she's 100% DtF and you can just whip it out and she'll climb on, but that she has decided she's theoretically open to the idea that you could convince her.
            It also means that if you DON'T at least try to make a move, she may take offense to that.
            It's also possible she agreed to come over fully planning to shit you down if/when you tried something to feel a petty sense of power, to see how you handle rejection, and/or to feel desired.
            It is an entirely plausible scenario to try to cuddle a girl, she gives you the cold shoulder to see how you handle it, you handle it in an acceptable way, and five minutes later SHE is the one trying to put your dick inside her.
            And that's not even getting into women's rape fantasies.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If you know the subtext of asking a girl to "netflix&chill", then your unceasing quest to be direct and clear should include a clarifying addendum that y'all ain't frickin'.
            Now I've actually done this but situations like this are pretty god damn rare (and she was the one inviting me over, not the other way around)

            I think normally, if you're hanging out with a girl like that, you're prolly frickin too, right? It's just that I'm not going to tell her "come over and watch Netflix" when I mean "let's frick!" Why would I do that? If she knows we're gonna frick, maybe she'll do a deep cleaning of her butthole, shave her bush, all that shit, eh? But if she thinks we're just watching Netflix she might skip all that. Either way, it's the principle that matters most

            >It also means that if you DON'T at least try to make a move, she may take offense to that.
            Don't care

            >It's also possible she agreed to come over fully planning to shit you down if/when you tried something to feel a petty sense of power, to see how you handle rejection, and/or to feel desired.
            >It is an entirely plausible scenario to try to cuddle a girl, she gives you the cold shoulder to see how you handle it, you handle it in an acceptable way, and five minutes later SHE is the one trying to put your dick inside her.
            >And that's not even getting into women's rape fantasies.
            Yeah, I know what you mean, been there and done that too many times already, and that's how I've arrived at my current stance which is: don't care, just always tell the truth and frick that b***h if she doesn't like it

            Vnr.

            This is why mom doesn't love you.

            >This is why mom doesn't love you.
            Ahh I thought it was because I didn't play football like she wanted..

            >risk rejection
            You're not "risking rejection", you're being too much of a social moron to pick up on the abundant cues that your advances are unwanted before you even make them and boorishly forcing someone to explain it to you explicitly.
            Maybe if you're able to intimidate someone to be fearful of saying no, you might occasionally manage to rape a girl... but you probably see that as a victory and don't understand why that b***h went around telling lies about you.

            >You're not "risking rejection", you're being too much of a social moron to pick up on the abundant cues
            First of all, I don't care about your gay ass "cues." Second, I don't even see it as "risking rejection," I just see it as making an offer, and it can't hurt to offer, can it?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Jesus fricking christ, you realize that you and people like you are the socially moronic ones, not people who actually know how to use their words?
            Good job for outing yourself as one of the social morons.
            Making your interest clear without using sexual or explicit speech is the best way to land a woman, the very fact you don't know how to, makes you socially moronic

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >That's actually impossible to understand since those two things can't exist together
        lrn2doubleentendre

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you have to be chad. this is what you actually meant to say. a sexually attractive man doesn't have to navigate bullshit female mine fields and shit tests, he can say anything.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is true and correct, yet most socially moronic people in this thread and on this board won't understand what it means and how to do so.
      This is the most successful way you can make any girl your girlfriend.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're doing a swell job of making me hate women more than I already do.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Is this hard to understand?
      Yes, actually. It's contradictory and moronic. Just stop being sexually repressed and make up your fricking mind about what you want. Please

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Either they like you or they don't. That's all it is. Don't waste any time.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wait your supposed to dick her before knowing her? Women are such animalistic morons

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you have to ask you are either painfully naive or a serial killer

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    women know from the getgo if they want to have sex with you or not. the friendship route is a meme. they either like you from the start or they dont. she will never get the ick if she finds you attractive

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its all post-hoc rationalization for only wanting chad

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm misogynistic but I can't fault that. I wouldn't want to get immediately sexual with a long-term relationship.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    unironically what do women want?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      different women want different things is that actually such a crazy concept to grasp

      people get into relationships by finding someone who likes the same stuff as them

      wow I like cars. wow I think cars are cool
      wow I meet a girl who likes cooking. we have nothing in common
      wow I meet a girl who likes shopping and shoes. we have nothing in common
      wow I meet a girl who has a mechanic dad and likes car. we can talk about cars for hours and it's fun. we married and now we have 3 kids

      it's that simple

      what are your hobbies? what are your interests? what can you see yourself spending 8 hours a day doing if you had free time?
      great. now just find girls who like the same stuff. don't expect all of them to like the same shit you do. just find the ones who do.
      it's easier if you look in the right places
      i.e. I won't find my favorite car girl by going around in walmart. but I might have a better chance if I visit a formula 1 event

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Uhm fricking what the frack? Ypu cant generalize women like that anon, women arnt a monolith ypu fricking evil incel

      different women want different things is that actually such a crazy concept to grasp

      people get into relationships by finding someone who likes the same stuff as them

      wow I like cars. wow I think cars are cool
      wow I meet a girl who likes cooking. we have nothing in common
      wow I meet a girl who likes shopping and shoes. we have nothing in common
      wow I meet a girl who has a mechanic dad and likes car. we can talk about cars for hours and it's fun. we married and now we have 3 kids

      it's that simple

      what are your hobbies? what are your interests? what can you see yourself spending 8 hours a day doing if you had free time?
      great. now just find girls who like the same stuff. don't expect all of them to like the same shit you do. just find the ones who do.
      it's easier if you look in the right places
      i.e. I won't find my favorite car girl by going around in walmart. but I might have a better chance if I visit a formula 1 event

      this, so much this, state?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      chad or dark triad butthole

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Giant wiener, good face.

      different women want different things is that actually such a crazy concept to grasp

      people get into relationships by finding someone who likes the same stuff as them

      wow I like cars. wow I think cars are cool
      wow I meet a girl who likes cooking. we have nothing in common
      wow I meet a girl who likes shopping and shoes. we have nothing in common
      wow I meet a girl who has a mechanic dad and likes car. we can talk about cars for hours and it's fun. we married and now we have 3 kids

      it's that simple

      what are your hobbies? what are your interests? what can you see yourself spending 8 hours a day doing if you had free time?
      great. now just find girls who like the same stuff. don't expect all of them to like the same shit you do. just find the ones who do.
      it's easier if you look in the right places
      i.e. I won't find my favorite car girl by going around in walmart. but I might have a better chance if I visit a formula 1 event

      You put the cart before the horse.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What is best in life.
      To crush her enemies, see them driven before her, and hear the lamentations of their women.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      drama
      oreganoli

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get to know about wine. There is a lot to learn about all the different kinds and how each one tastes. girls like wine and some even like talking about it. Suggest going wine tasting spend a little money on some wine she can take home and maybe share with your at her place.

    if you dont know about wine, ask her questions about it.

    etc etc

    meanwhile you are both drinking and talking and she is getting all warm inside

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >prostitutes telling the truth
    sure kid she totally was drinking beer at a party chatting up random guys to "make friends"

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't matter, some woman will find it creepy while others will find it bold, you should be comfortable with being able to be direct about what you want at the risk of being seen as creepy and naturaly you will filter out for the ones you'd want.

    The ones who are turned off by this are the most likely to lead you on, or interested in sexdeep into the relationship. If you like that then that's cool, don't talk about sex, but if not.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If she's attracted you can't lose. If she's not attracted you can't win. Simple as.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She doesn't want to frick you dumbass is it that difficult to understand

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The issue with both of your examples is taking too big of a step and crossing a boundary.
    When you move slower (and pay attention to feedback), you give her a chance to think about the changes you're making and adjust by either (re)moving the boundary or reinforcing it.
    If you try to go directly from A to Z, she will reject that move purely out of risk aversion.
    >A to B?
    No problem.
    >B to C?
    Alright.
    >C to D?
    I see where this is headed, I'll need to think about it.
    >C to D?
    Okay, I think that'll be fine.
    >D to E?
    I see your E and raise you F.
    >F to... J?
    Woah, pardner, let's try H for now..
    >H to K?
    OK :3
    >K to O?
    I C wat U did there, UR so funny. Sure.
    >O to U or R?
    kek, let's start with R next time and maybe we'll get to U if it's going well.
    >R to U?
    Not this week.
    >R to S?
    Okay. Actually, U would be fine if you're still interested.
    >U to Z?
    Sure, I'll bring the tequila if you supply the limes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes. however theirs nothing wrong with starting at C or something, however its a case by case basis. it is something you build up from, but theirs nothing wrong with being blunt, and although not every girl will like it, it makes you more assertive

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Very little of this progression is verbal or even conscious.
        "A to B?" Might be having a conversation while you face each other at an acute angle for the first time.
        Does the conversation continuue normally without acknowledging this change? Does she cross her arms? Does she change position to open the angle?
        All of this interplay and communication REALLY IS GOING ON, but normies are not thinking about any of it and are just effortlessly picking up the cues and responding appropriately.
        You motherfrickers, OTOH, are not.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    female fragility is normal healthy male sexuality being expressed ever

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What you have to understand is that when women complain about a specific thing that men do they're not talking about all men in all situations, they're talking about a specific behavior coming from a specific kind of man. If the Chad of their dreams has them mesmerized he can usually say just about anything and they won't care, although they still might because women are very picky because they can afford to be. Women also post stuff like this to subtly demonstrate their value. The more men and the higher value men you can ignore the higher value you are as a woman. This is why women keep inventing ridiculous standards like "must be over 6'4"" that have no bearing on reality, it's just a free way of signalling high value as a woman. Men don't really do this as much because they're naturally less picky and demonstrate their value in the opposite way by bragging how many girls they bagged if anything. This woman might be genuinely annoyed when 99% of men do this but there's another woman who's annoyed when 99% of men DON'T do this. Basically ignore females and just do whatever you want and eventually one of them will like you as long as you aren't a hideous nasty loser.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Make women property again. That's what they are. End of discussion.

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