Why do normies hate the idea of a virgin guy wanting a virgin gal?

They fricking hate the idea that a man could have this standard without being an insecure woman hating monster.
They always just say insecurity without ever explaining what they mean by that, or they will say
>You want to OWN her body and sexuality you're basically treating her like a slave/object!
She would also own my body and sexuality now wouldn't she? But I guess that doesn't matter cause I'm a guy so that means I'm worthless and I should be happy if some ran trough single mom decides to treat me as a fricking rug right?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's not that they hate the idea. It's that that what you want does not exist.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ??? What the frick do you mean? My mom and dad were both virgins when they met. So were my uncle and aunt. And my older (by 12 years) cousin and his wife. So why do you think it doesn't exist, if it was the norm not even 2 decades ago?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Your obviously mom wasn't lol. Unless they met in their teens

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not american btw. And my mom was a sheltered farm girl, my dad was her first boyfriend.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't live in civilization
            >W-why it wouldn't be the norm.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You live in a diseased dystopian shithole. I wouldn't visit America even if i was paid to. I don't wat to get shot and raped by urban Black folk.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You live in a literal farm on a third world shithole. You're the last person who can talk about diseases

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Over 50% of Blacks in America have herpes

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Like 40% of american women do actually. Another funny fact is that Senegal has a lower HIV rate then California.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Doesn't surprise me that shithole is worse than a third world african country

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >So why do you think it doesn't exist, if it was the norm not even 2 decades ago?
        Look around? Society has changed drastically due to the internet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Of course it does and even if it didn't, why get so mad about it? Do you get mad at people who want to be succesful athletes because it's unlikely?

      I think the hate is usually dorected towards men who arent virgins preferring virgin women

      Yeah I've never seen a woman, virgin or not get shat on for wanting a virgin guy or a non-virgin guy.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ppl get jelly when you prefer fantasy over them ig

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          But these people also say they would never date someone who thinks virginity should be valued, so how does that make sense?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Like i said, they are jelly that you prefer a fantasy over them

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            But if they wouldn't want to date me anyways then why get jealous of that? I see people around me hook up and get into relationships but I don't feel any jealousy because I wouldn't want to date any of those people.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty sure thats because women dont really care about virginity as much as men, most women lose their virginity through a hookup with some guy at a party or something, obviously the guy isnt a virgin 99% of the time

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What women don't get is these social frat boy or highschool jock types are the ones fricking most of them, and they don't even realize it.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    women hate men
    men hate other men

    that's just how it is on this b***h of an earth

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      why are men hated?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And women hate other women

      We all hate each other. Love doesn't exist.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I love my parents, and i love my country, and i love God.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think the hate is usually dorected towards men who arent virgins preferring virgin women

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just go to your local church and bag a trad wife. There are plenty of women who think like this. If you mean normal people, it's probably because people don't take kindly to the idea of being dismissed as a partner for having had sex. All things equal, the only way for a woman to see that is that the guy doesn't respect people with less than perfect judgement, or they have this warped sense of 'purity' that makes them delusional about dating in general.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not religious but I've been to church a couple of times and there wasn't a single person below 50 in there.
      As for the other thing why do they care? Obviously our views on sex and love differ so greatly that we shouldn't even entertain the idea of dating, why take it as personal insult?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >why take it as personal insult
        We go out. We like each other. You ask if I've had sex before because it's important to you. I lie because I can tell what you're thinking. "Oh what a relief". You never find out, and we fall in love.
        Unless women who've had sex before are fundamentally different from virgins, there's no way to tell, so it's probably frustrating for people to be rejected on that basis even if your reasoning is as harmless as wanting to experience losing it with someone who's also losing it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They are in fact fundamentally different from women who haven't had sex before, not because of the sex itself, but because of the relationship that preceded it. Either it was a
          1) one night stand - which is really strange whorish behaviour and i want nothing to do with a woman who partakes in that
          or
          2) it was a long deep relationship and she gave herself completely to the man, in which case - why did she leave the relationship?
          Both cases show a lack of judgment and a character flaw of the woman that i simply can't look past.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >lack of judgment
            *Lapse in judgement
            The idea that humans don't make mistakes is the fundamental issue people will take up with you if you judge them for having had sex. Only incels even hold sex in such high regard in the first place.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Damn i didn't know all my forefathers were incels. Do you americans not have terms for women who easily give out sex? "easy women" we call them

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You could lie about a lot of things that are important to people without finding out, that doesn't mean people can't value those things or that you aren't a massive piece of shit for doing that. I could lie about being religious to get with a trad waifu, it would be easy to just go to church once a week and pretend to pray to god sometimes, but that would still be fricked up of me to do and the other person would be rightfully furious if they found out. If what you said happened to me I and Iost my virginity to someone who wasn't another virgin I married I would probably kill myself and maybe that person too.

          30+ a month easily

          What?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I would probably kill myself
            WHYYYYYYYYYY?

            Damn i didn't know all my forefathers were incels. Do you americans not have terms for women who easily give out sex? "easy women" we call them

            If you are capable of being lied to, someone can get sex out of you and leave you. If that's your standard, that's fine, but your bar is higher than you think if you are complaining about it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Being stupid enough to get conned out of your virginity shows a clear LACK of judgement. You can't cure stupid. And yeah i would also at the very least beat the shit out of my partner if i found out she lied about being a virgin. Because lies have consequences.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >"Anon I've been the happiest woman of my life for the past 10 years and our children are beutiful and taking care of them has been the greatest joy of my life! I love you so much. Did you know I had sex in highschool when my brain wasn't even fully developed and my parents enabled my shitty behavior? I knew how anyone might react but I saw something in you and now were so happ... Anon? Please put the gun away...

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah i would divorce her on the spot. That is fricking textbook baby trapping. What, because she has leverage on me NOW it's retroactively okay that our entire relationship is based on a lie? Because i would make it very apparent at the start of a relationship that i am a Catholic and value virginity and purity. Her ass is getting fricking divorced.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Christian
            With all due respect, this doesn't apply to you

            It's my goal to marry another virgin and start a happy family, I want to give my virginity to the person I love, It's all I've ever wanted, if it was taken from me by a liar then I don't know what else I'm supposed to do.
            [...]
            So? Also virgin4virgin marriages tend to have the best success rates so just wait for marriage.
            [...]
            If kids are involved it's a bit different I guess, I would divorce and ask for a paternity test and if they were mine I guess I'd just live for the sake of my kids.

            I can see why that might seem important, but it's a too delicate perspective to have. Maybe it's ideal, but it's too reliant on luck, and you'll probably be disappointed.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's not that reliant on luck though, plan to only have sex after marriage and date for at least 2 years before, I would have to run into a really big piece of shit for that to fail, I doubt that many people can just lie to the face of someone they love for 2 years about something so important.

            I used to be really, really hard on getting a virgin wife, despite the current sex market climate. But then I realized that women and relationships are a nuisance, the limerence dies off, the lust fades and you end up with a roommate who you used to frick and who made you babies.
            Women, like vehicles and tools, are a means to an end. Brand spanking new ones from the dealership are nice, but they'll get old and worn out either way.

            >Shes only 17, what the frick has she been doing?
            Oh I don't know, fricking? For up to 4 years or so? I'm a 90s kid and we had a bawd in my class that started banging at 13 because puberty hit her real quick.

            I disagree and I think you don't mean that, because if you just thought of women as tools to make kids you would just have test tube babies and get them genetically engineered to be chads.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            My mother lied to my dad about having an affair for 18 years, yea she felt bad, but doesn't change the fact she fricked another man and lied about it. All while treating my dad like shit. Only reason he stayed is because he genuinely loved her.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I would have just kikled her then myself, but I guess whatever floats your dads boat.

            Statistically unlikely to find a woman who's a virgin over 16 that isn't a vegetable or completely non verbal rain man. Even then doesn't guarantee they haven't had sex before, I remember a anon talking about his experiences as a sped driver and having one autistic female who had a boyfriend for years despite being a literal moron.

            It's something like 24% of all women aged 18-24 are virgins, so rare but absolutely not statistically unlikely. That's a US study too so you can expect women in most countries to be less whorish.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I sincerely doubt a quarter of college aged women are virgins. Women lie all the time anon, being a viegin is just another thing they'll lie about

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            She had a affair once and then hid it for 18 years. Not she had a affair for 18 years, my bad I should have clarified.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Doesn't change my answer.

            Pretty sure thats because women dont really care about virginity as much as men, most women lose their virginity through a hookup with some guy at a party or something, obviously the guy isnt a virgin 99% of the time

            But when a woman does express that she wants a virgin she never gets backlash, it's just you go girl stuff.

            its because the idea of virgin marriage has led to a lot of mysoginy, abuse and under age marriage were the other partner was way older. i always keep on saying: marry some one the same age as you

            It hasn't lead to any of that though. Do you really think those things wouldn't have happened if virginity wasn't valued? If anything they would have been worse because without the concept of virginity guys wouldn't had any reason to pick one or a couple of women to keep them home and guard them, women would have just been relegated to public use commodities and feminism would never have taken off cause you wouldn't have men that loved women thus you wouldn't have had anyone with the power to change the status quo on the side of feminism.

            For me if you are virgin. You can exige a virgin partener. If you are not. It's weird.
            Personally I want someone virgin

            I mean I think it's fine to have standards for a partner that you don't meet yourself, like a non-virgin wanting to be with a virgin or a short person wanting a tall one, I don't get the outrage over stuff like that, shouldn't everyone just be free to try and date who they are attracted to as long as it's legal?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >It's something like 24% of all women aged 18-24 are virgins, so rare but absolutely not statistically unlikely. That's a US study too so you can expect women in most countries to be less whorish.
            kek, post study.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I only lied to you anon why is it such a big deal we only had sex

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's my goal to marry another virgin and start a happy family, I want to give my virginity to the person I love, It's all I've ever wanted, if it was taken from me by a liar then I don't know what else I'm supposed to do.

            It's delusional, first relationships rarely work out.

            So? Also virgin4virgin marriages tend to have the best success rates so just wait for marriage.

            >"Anon I've been the happiest woman of my life for the past 10 years and our children are beutiful and taking care of them has been the greatest joy of my life! I love you so much. Did you know I had sex in highschool when my brain wasn't even fully developed and my parents enabled my shitty behavior? I knew how anyone might react but I saw something in you and now were so happ... Anon? Please put the gun away...

            If kids are involved it's a bit different I guess, I would divorce and ask for a paternity test and if they were mine I guess I'd just live for the sake of my kids.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why?
            If a woman lied about being a virgin and I married her I would feel betrayed enough to take my own life.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's what I'm saying, plus it's not like I could just move on, even if I met an actual virgin that was willing to marry me, I wouldn't be a virgin anymore so it wouldn't be the same, I couldn't give myself to her completely and I would feel like I'm robbing her of something important, even if she was fine with it I would feel guilty.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry to burst your bubble, man, but i'm a born and raised Catholic who goes to church every Sunday, sings in the choir and goes to Bible study, and the number of young women who go to church under the age of 30 who aren't married already is... ZERO! That's right. Young 20-something year old women are nowhere near churches. Maybe they suddenly "become trad" when they hit 30 (wink wink)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Protestant girls are usually the trad ones. everyone knows catholics don't really pay attention to their own religion unless it's Easter or Christmas.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah well there are no protestants in my country, we are all Catholic.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          All abrahamics are the same, but the prods are worse in this regard.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Only old women go to church nowadays lmao

      I'm not american btw. And my mom was a sheltered farm girl, my dad was her first boyfriend.

      Obviously if you keep a woman isolated from the outside world she will be a virgin. But that won't happen 9/10

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >You want to OWN her body and sexuality
    if the first person she sleeps with forever "owns her body" then why waste time with a non-virgin?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Their logic is is that you can never own any aspect of another person which I find weird, because what do they even think a relationship is? Because it seems pretty obvious to me that the point of an exclusive relationship is just that, exclusivity, it's posessive by nature. But they have this unexplainable aversion to being posessive in any way, like wanting to own your partner is somehow wrong.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    30+ a month easily

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When I was 19 a 17 year old who I was hitting on told me:

    "I don't take guys virginities anymore"

    Shes only 17, what the frick has she been doing?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I used to be really, really hard on getting a virgin wife, despite the current sex market climate. But then I realized that women and relationships are a nuisance, the limerence dies off, the lust fades and you end up with a roommate who you used to frick and who made you babies.
      Women, like vehicles and tools, are a means to an end. Brand spanking new ones from the dealership are nice, but they'll get old and worn out either way.

      >Shes only 17, what the frick has she been doing?
      Oh I don't know, fricking? For up to 4 years or so? I'm a 90s kid and we had a bawd in my class that started banging at 13 because puberty hit her real quick.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Fox and the grapes scrote classic devaluing what you can't have

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's just old people in general tho.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The guy is pushing 50, man. Young men (especially zoomers like me) understand that a virgin wife is one of the most valuable things a man can get.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He's not completely wrong though. Relationships are often times a mans biggest source of stress and drama.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If you marry someone you love then it's also the source of the purest happiness.

            it's probably unrealistic if you're above a certain age

            How? There's older virgin women out there, plus you don't have to date your age.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            there really isn't a lot of older virgin women unless you go to the third world or something

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So go to the third world? What is the downside of that exactly?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            i don't want to go to a third world country just to find an older woman who hasn't been fricked before

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why? Seems kinda fun and romantic.

            Self improving while you have no friends is the most depressing shit ever. You will go from being suicidal and alone to being suicidal and alone but you are buff and can play guitar and speak spanish.

            That's cool though, I unironically stopped being suicidal when I started going to the gym cause I look forward to my body transforming and now I get actual real compliments from people who take notice even though I haven't made that much progress yet, people notice and say nice thing about me, it's nice.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            i don't think i'd necessarily be able to relate that well with a woman from a third-world country

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why not?

            Really? I've been lifting for s few years on and off, can bench 110kg for reps, look very buff and i have never ever ever gotten a compliment except in NSFFW CBT threads.

            I'm still a fat frick and people will still comment on it, they will say that my face is looking leaner, or that my shoulders are getting wider and my gut smaller. Mostly friends and family but it still feels nice. Plus when normies hear that I diddly 140kg and bench 90kg they are actually astonished. It really doesn't take much to impress regular people.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah i think that the reason i never got comolimented is because i was never fat. I just went from skinny to buff. I see guys at work get comolimented for losing 5 kilo but i never got complimented by anyone. Nobody cares, not evrn my parents (who are fat as frick), my mom even tells me my muscles are too big and no girl will ever like me if i don't stop going to the gym.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Your mom is a jealous gains goblin. Is she asian? Sounds like something an asian old lady would say.

            because she's from a completely different background. i don't know if i'd relate to someone from a third world country

            It's not like all 3rd world countries are mega impoverished or anything, you could probably relate.

            Protestant girls are usually the trad ones. everyone knows catholics don't really pay attention to their own religion unless it's Easter or Christmas.

            What about roman or greek orthodox?
            That's what my country has mainly.

            here's an easy lie to keep slimes away

            slimes? lie?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            because she's from a completely different background. i don't know if i'd relate to someone from a third world country

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Really? I've been lifting for s few years on and off, can bench 110kg for reps, look very buff and i have never ever ever gotten a compliment except in NSFFW CBT threads.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Statistically unlikely to find a woman who's a virgin over 16 that isn't a vegetable or completely non verbal rain man. Even then doesn't guarantee they haven't had sex before, I remember a anon talking about his experiences as a sped driver and having one autistic female who had a boyfriend for years despite being a literal moron.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A lot of wiener apparently. It's crazy how polarized it is tho, you're either a total prostitute like 5+ bc or a total virgin, there actually isn't a middle ground, not that I would date any non-virgin anyways but it's just weird cause you'd expect there to be more people in the middle but there really aren't any.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's delusional, first relationships rarely work out.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How many relationships do you have to have for something to work out?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >A woman sleeping around lowers her social status
    >A man sleeping around raises his social status
    >Normies all intuitively know this but also know it's not meant to be said out loud (at least the woman part)
    So when you say you're a virgin guy looking for a virgin girl you're saying you want a woman who's much higher status than you
    Normies instinctively attack anyone who challenges social hierarchy, but then are immediately faced with the social minefield of accidentally implying women with lower bodycounts are higher value
    In the normies eyes you've placed them in a trap which could potentially lower their standing within their group if they slip up, so it's much safer for them to just go on an all out attack without engaging with any logic

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anon, the answe is 'insanity'. It is as simple as people being out of touch with reality, delusional, insane, etc.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is that why they have to take SSRIs? To more effectively deny reality?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's probably unrealistic if you're above a certain age

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Guys. It's ogre.

    What do you replace love and intimacy with? I can't find anything worth doing, it makes life feel like a waiting room for death.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why not just put all your time into self improvement? It can only help in getting a virgin to wife up and even if you still can't you can at least be of use to your family and friends which feels nice.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Self improving while you have no friends is the most depressing shit ever. You will go from being suicidal and alone to being suicidal and alone but you are buff and can play guitar and speak spanish.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    here's an easy lie to keep slimes away

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because bawds need to convince themselves they haven't reduced in value, and the dudes that settled for bawds that they made a good purchase

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >avoided women all of high school
    >started talking to some when i graduated
    >went out with one for 4 years, we were both virgins
    >she got molested as a child and had severe trauma, i was perfectly fine to respect that
    >she leaves and troons out and becomes gay(and is still a virgin funnily enough)
    >start talking to other women
    >theyre all 10+ men deep with rather obvious hangups about some exes
    >im still a virgin
    >dont feel like i should get with someone who didnt hold themselves to a good standard
    >would never sex a woman i wasnt in love with
    Theres my blogpost

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its because the idea of virgin marriage has led to a lot of mysoginy, abuse and under age marriage were the other partner was way older. i always keep on saying: marry some one the same age as you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I always find it funny when women imply chastity is inherently misogynistic

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For me if you are virgin. You can exige a virgin partener. If you are not. It's weird.
    Personally I want someone virgin

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