Why do some men get upset when a woman wants to wait to have sex when they first start dating so she knows he's serious?

Why do some men get upset when a woman wants to wait to have sex when they first start dating so she knows he's serious? Even if she had a bawd phase before hand that shouldn't matter, are guys like this just insecure?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why else would you want to spend time with a woman?

  2. 2 months ago
    MKG

    Real question or cheap bait?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      cheap bait, quadanon
      or it could be a real question since
      >Even if she had a bawd phase before hand that shouldn't matter
      indicates that female hands are behind this post so it can be safely ignored

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Check'd

      Also,

      Because she knows and I know that I'm not here for shit else. Hell a girl I've been talking to finally fricked me the other day, it was super meh and I probably won't pursue her. Had she taken the illogical stick outta her ass then we could of had sex and departed way sooner. Now I gotta bullshit her with some excuse cause she "likes" me now.

      Giga-Check'd, get mogged on your first quad.

      Also,

      https://i.imgur.com/QHbxZMj.jpg

      Why do some men get upset when a woman wants to wait to have sex when they first start dating so she knows he's serious? Even if she had a bawd phase before hand that shouldn't matter, are guys like this just insecure?

      Because men have testosterone.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why should I date a bawd that doesn't give me easy sex?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would also like an answer to this, fricking is what prostitutes are for

  4. 2 months ago
    MBRichardson87

    >wait to have sex
    pass.
    if you're not crazy about me, I'll go find another woman who is

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because we all know women had at least one guy they fricked on first meeting, so why keep up the charade?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yep. the longer she makes a guy wait, the less his self esteem.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because some men aren't serious and only want easy sex
    /next dumb question

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >are guys like this just insecure?
    no they are just not idiots like the females who believe this shit

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There was this 18 or 19 year old who was arguing about it with me and I basically told her "you're going to claim to be waiting for marriage, when you're a non-virgin... that makes no sense, nobody will date you."
    And she said blah blah a good man will wait. then I retorted "well if you're dating me we're having sex before marriage."
    To which she replied "oh yeah? is that so?"
    To which I said "yep, that's how it's going to be with me, and any other guy with an ounce of self respect."
    And she got all flustered and changed the subject.

    Really this isn't an issue.
    You can larp being pure for me, but if you've already been with other men I'm getting the goods. Either by seducing her, or getting sex from someone who isn't batshit insane.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >waiting for marriage
      >non virgin
      Sorry but that's just a fringe case, she's terminally moronic.
      Most girls just want to wait a month of dating or so

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >are guys like this just non-delusional
    ftfy. And yes, they are that non-delusional.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not insecurity, it's jus delusional if I to think that a guy ur dating will need to wait have sex with u when u in the past fricked guys easily. It plays with his self respect and makes you seem like ur some queen like he has to wait to have sex

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because there's other women who will do it so why would they wait for you

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't mind waiting two or three dates because I am done with frick and chucks myself. However, if you keep me waiting for longer, I'll either think you're fricking me around or holding out for other opportunites; in which case, I will move on.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >in general
    The get upset because they want sex.
    >insecure?
    They want sex.
    >bawd phase before hand
    Then she should realize what they're expectations were and not be surprised that they're upset.
    >however
    Guys who are serious and mature will be willing to wait.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I would not be interested in a woman who so quickly jumps into something as serious as sex. It's incredibly important physical, emotional, and spiritual connection, and it's important to do it with someone you truly love.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Terrible bait

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Even if she had a bawd phase before hand that shouldn't matter
    This is bait. But if you willingly and freely give it away to guys who aren't serious about you, don't expect mr. right to wait around either. A man who's serious about waiting until marriage will want a virgin partner.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because she knows and I know that I'm not here for shit else. Hell a girl I've been talking to finally fricked me the other day, it was super meh and I probably won't pursue her. Had she taken the illogical stick outta her ass then we could of had sex and departed way sooner. Now I gotta bullshit her with some excuse cause she "likes" me now.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    All interactions are transactional. The fact that a woman gave sex to other guys, but holds off on giving it to a specific guy has some implications. Sex is one of the most prized things a male can get. A woman chooses to give sex because she likes the guy, and that depends on many factors (strength, charisma, looks, etc.) By not having sex with a guy while previously giving it to other males, you are saying that those other men are more valuable. You are saying that he is weaker, uglier, more bland than the other guys. I get some women may have reasons other than this, but to the male it doesn't matter.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hypocrisy is ugly.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I have to wait
    >some rando didn't

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    FRANKLY, no man will want you after hearing that you sucked off some guy and licked his balls in a nightclub toilet.

    The fact you don’t understand this is the even bigger realisation that not only are you a dumb bawd but you’re also a genuine psychopath with the level of empathy and understanding of others, of a chunk of rancid cheese in the hot sun.
    That’s the even bigger red flag you fricking bawd. Get fricked

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Even if she had a bawd phase before hand that shouldn't matter
    Why?

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because they have a self respect. Why would any sane man treat an ex-prostitute (that´s what a chick who had her hoe phase is, nothing less, nothing more) like a wife material.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's like telling the man
    >"Hey now I've had my fun with 50+ other guys NOW i'll give you a chance. Oh you still have to work for this blown out pussy though

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Even if she had a bawd phase before hand that shouldn't matter, are guys like this just insecure?

    What, where the frick do you get off even considering this as reasonable? You're going to prostitute yourself out to other people and then suddenly expect to treat a relationship like a serious commitment and like you're a woman worthy of respect after you've already given it up?

    No, frick off moron. Maybe if you do something to prove you're not a shitter for some reason, but as it stands you don't just to get to pretend the past didn't happen.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i agree, I don't understand why a woman enjoying herself and having some fun when she's young means she doesn't deserve respect

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I think women that shit on Jesus Christ and the Marriage Covenant deserve respect

      Okay moron

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The kind of man who would be willing to wait for marriage or something serious isn't going to go for a promiscuous woman with a colorful past.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    God knows I'm a patient man, but plenty of women aren't. The wait isn't often mutual, that's why it's upsetting. "We need to know each other more" does translate into "I'm not all that interested" and you don't regularly see guys being successful when they start just meandering and becoming buddies for an extended period of time.

    I don't get either why anyone should be under any obligation to love a woman who isn't that able to commit to a relationship with a single person for a long period of time. If you sleep with dozens of guys you're not gonna suddenly change that overnight because of just another one guy.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If you sleep with dozens of guys you're not gonna suddenly change that overnight because of just another one guy.

      This is why I put pressure on bawds, you know damn well that I'm not here for friendship so drop this "Im proper now" bullshit. And it works too, I"m fricking around with a chick now who tried the whole "I wanna take things slow" etc, and last week she ended up blowing me in my car and now she constantly sends me DM's talking about fricking again when she sees me. Dont listen to women for shit.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    As with all qualities when it comes to men or women
    Some do, some dont, if you get caught up in the "all men/women are a hivemind" thinking you are:
    1. moronic
    2. Doomed to a miserable life

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Think of it like this
    Imagine you date a guy and he decides to take you on vacation to a city you've always wanted to go to, it would feel really special, right?
    Now would it feel as special if he then told you that he's taken every other woman he has ever dated to the exact same city for a vacation? Probably not.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This whole thread would be hilarious were it not so sad. It is blatantly obvious that the guys who ae so self-righteously "Put out or else" are, every one of them, virgins who have never had the opportunity to reject a woman for any reason.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Whats great is the narcissism here. Just cause you think you're above letting me make a mess on your face doesnt mean another person wont. You're ignoring the desperation in trying to revamp your image after literally going out of your way to tarnish it for years on end. You think changing your ways undoes the damage, it doesnt. Men who care dont want to take on baggage, god forbid a kid that isnt theirs.
      >TL;DR
      >Why buy a set of tires with no tread on them?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      See

      The kind of man who would be willing to wait for marriage or something serious isn't going to go for a promiscuous woman with a colorful past.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you didn't wait for them but you are gonna make me wait, looks like I'm getting the short end of the deal.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Even if she had a bawd phase before hand that shouldn't matter, are guys like this just insecure?
    Nope nope nope

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only reason why men would be upset is because they are overstimulated and undersexed. Men on average have higher sex drives than women. And sometimes they base their value partly on whether a woman wants to have sex with them. If they are dating she quickly becomes the object of his desire and if he anticipates sex, he will become frustrated when it does not happen when expected. It is about expectations. If a woman waits, she probably has good reason. I personally don't think men should be bothered by that. But as a man, sex is nice and there is only so much I can do without a fully functional relationship beforehand.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Waiting is good

    >even if she had a bawd phase beforehand that shouldn't matter
    Lol. Does anyone unironically think this? If a guy is knowingly trying to date a bawd and she won't put out, that is a direct rejection. There's only a single reason a dude would date a woman with a "bawd phase".
    I'll give you a hint: it's not to start a family with a tradwife

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If a girl attempts to prove your 'seriousness' by withholding something from you, what is she trying to measure? How good you are at pretending to be interested until you get something from her?
    No, it's just rationalisation.
    If a woman was attracted to you, she wouldn't withhold sex, because she would desire it. If a woman withholds sex from you it's because she's not attracted to you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Obvious bait is obvious.

      There are two different reasons to be upset: first, if a guys primary goal is sex, he will be unhappy if he has to expend more effort getting it. Second, if a guy wants to take things slow, it’s insulting and distasteful for him to wait for a woman who clearly didn’t share his values.
      Some guys fall into a subset of the first category, where they still see sex as the main goal, but they get angry specifically because they don’t like to ‘lose’. They don’t have any moral opposition to promiscuity, they just don’t want to be made to wait by a woman who went faster for another guy.

      This is only true if she’s inconsistent. Taking relationships seriously DOES mean not getting sexual right away. It’s just not believable or respectable if someone promiscuous tries to put on an act when they think it’s convenient.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is a tricky one. But it all comes down to the character of the woman herself.

    If a girl who lets say had a 20 dude college run , a boyfriend and a hook up each semester - wakes up at 21 and realizes I can't be like this forever cause self awareness. If that girl takes a year to be celibate, gets her mind right and adjusted - AND THEN approaches guys with the intent to marry and explicitly for that AND ADJUSTS dude preferences accordingly realizing it's not gonna be a 1:1 - I'd be inclined to give this girl and her conditions a chance.

    But this is not the kind of work most if any women are willing to do. I've seen it - but they were high IQ girls that genuinely had a head on their shoulders and planned life accordingly. What it actually looks like in practice:

    > I'm a born again virgin with zero ability to wait , but I am going to make you wait cause that's what born again virgins do cause that's what I read on instagram / girl advice groups.
    > I'm not adjusting my preferences , I just think tall alcoholic dudes are my future hubbies!!
    > OR fine I'm settling , I don't really wanna be here - but lets go through the motions

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > I'd be inclined to give this girl and her conditions a chance.
      This mindset only contributes to the problem. If people are constantly pressured to be promiscuous to fit in by most, and the only people who disagree say all can be forgiven, people will be inclined to ‘try out’ promiscuity under the mistaken impression that they can just go back if they don’t like it. But that’s a flat-out lie. The consequences are morally and practically irreversible. The ideal of monogamy is destroyed, and the basic fact is that relationships will tend to be less stable and less happy, if they even get to the point of commitment.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Best post ITT

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        NTA personally. I'd say that Asian girls are the only ones where they unironically tend to be at least somewhat familial, and it's worth doing the whole "Cinderella pretense" with them, but not overdoing it.

        With white girls you should always operate under the assumption that she's already had tons of sexual experience - and your expectations and how you express it should be in accordance. Simping for white girls never hels you get laid with them, quite the opposite actually. Don't buy into the whole "we gotta wait a month" - it just means you're wasting your time with a girl who doesn't care for you and never truly will

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You can frick off with your irrelevant interracial psyop

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    and how would anyone know she had a bawd phase moron? normal ppl don't ask about bodycount.

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blue balls?

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