Why do women experience depression way more than men?

Why do women experience depression way more than men?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What are you seeking advice about? If you just want to have discussions on data you're in the wrong board

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That is one of the myths Freud demolished 150 years ago.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women are more emotional beings. Men are more logical.
    We feel the same, but women show it more.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Call me dumb but I think women are just more likely to admit something like that than men. Most men will just brush it off, at least the older ones will.

      Is anger not an emotion?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They have more to be depressed about.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    genetic
    literally how our brain are made thats why.
    its like saying "why men are stronger?"

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    gee i don't know, could it be all the societal pressures that are put on women for them to be petite and perfect in every way and if you're not you're a disgusting prostitute that no one wants?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >feminist brainrot

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this

        >implying thats not a valid factor in womens depression
        incel brainrot

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >implying you dont understand basic human genetics

          read a book ignorant

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What is the connection between basic human genetics and women getting depressed over being expected to be "petite and perfect"

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ?

            [...]
            >i've never experienced it therefore it's not a thing!
            i wish we could put all autism sufferers into camps. they're going to be the death of us i swear

            this:

            >implying you dont understand basic human genetics

            read a book ignorant

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Society places expectations on everyone, not just women, and the specific dichotomy you gave is nonsense rooted in a persecution complex. An incel--and to be clear, I'm not one, nor do I sympathize with them--could just as easily say "men have to be ripped, make six figures, have a gigantic dick, never show any vulnerability, and can't ever contradict a woman or they deserve to die alone". It's completely hyperbolic and attributes conscious pressure, even malice, to simple expectations that occur in society.
          Women ARE more socially sensitive than men, in general, so that would explain why many women FEEL more oppressed by social expectations. But that doesn't mean they actually are oppressed, let alone in the way you expressed it.

          Being 'petite' is generally associated with being feminine. Men do generally prefer women who are their height or shorter (and the vast majority of women naturally fall into that category). Nobody, man or woman, is attracted to obesity. Does a tall woman get called a "disgusting prostitute no one wants"? I would be shocked if even literal incels made that connection.

          "Perfect in every way" is shorthand for, yes, people generally view virtue positively, but people's views of what virtue even is can vary widely. The more consistent ones for men are not being a literal bawd and being kind/agreeable. If you want every single person on the planet to like and respect you, it won't happen. People have different views, and you can't please everyone. "Society" won't impose anything on you. It's up to you to navigate it and associate with who you want.
          But even among those who aren't fans of some trait of yours, unless they're specifically disapproving of promiscuity, they aren't going to think you're a 'disgusting prostitute nobody wants'.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Does the beauty standards of women contribute to their depression or does it not?

            The original poster was hyperbolic but saying it's feminist brainrot when the pressure to be perfect physically as a woman is a very real thing, and one of the factors of womens depression, its just as wrong.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Does the beauty standards of women contribute to their depression or does it not?
            I'd say, tentatively, yes. A combination of the images produced in a society (though bombardment by media and advertisements is very much not the same thing as what people actually expect) and women's own perceptions of what they have to do to be attractive.

            I took the other poster to mean "women are more depressed because they alone have to be 'perfect', not just physically but in all aspects, or else they are judged prostitutes nobody wants". I called it feminist brainrot not because there is no truth in social pressure--I explicitly acknowledged that in the post you're replying to--but because of how hyperbolic it was, and how it connected two almost entirely unrelated things.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this

        >i've never experienced it therefore it's not a thing!
        i wish we could put all autism sufferers into camps. they're going to be the death of us i swear

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ?

          [...]
          this:[...]

          see

          I'll play your silly little game.
          If that is the case why are both of the following things true?
          >As feminism and equal rights INCREASED in the West between 1965 - 2015 why did female depression go *up* instead of down?
          >In the OECD and G20 nations the more gender equality and lack of gender stereotypes a nation has the MORE women are depressed yet as traditional gender norms go up and equality goes down female depression is LESS.
          ?
          Further, the more a woman is traditional/embraces traditional gender roles the less likely she is to be mentally ill while conversely the more feminist/progressive she is the more likely she is to be mentally ill?
          Three simple questions, you should be able to easily answer them

          >Many people were depressed in the past but no one noticed it.
          This fails to account for the fact that rates of suiide/self-harm, abandonment, etc. that reflect depression levels were also lower so all secondary markers say depression was lower and getting higher.
          so - you are wrong.
          2. Countries with lower gender equality have worse healthcare so basically same thing as in 1Totally moronic and frankly bigoted. Poland has worse healthcare than Norway? Not at all. Saudi Arabia has BETTER healthcare than Kuwait, and yet.... and so on.
          so - you are wrong again
          >Traditional people are less likely to visit a therapist/psychiatrist even when they struggle
          Again, the secondary markers do NOT support this since the rates of self-harm, addiction, suicide, etc. mirror depression rates and confirm the finding.
          Never mind the multiple multivariate studies that actively show Tradition women are much less prone to mental illness
          with feeling - you are very, very wrong.

          One of the most interesting effects of very Liberal societies with the lowest levels of gender discrimination?
          The HIGHEST levels of gender sorting in the workplace!
          In a nation like Norway, where men and women are as equal as can be and have the opportunity to be whatever they want there are effectively zero female plumbers, mining engineers, and so forth but also effectively zero male nurses, teachers, or day care workers.
          So to someplace like Saudi Arabia? TONS of female engineers, TONS of male teachers.
          The more "equal" a nation the more it resembles what Feminists claim a "Patriachy" looks like!

          Little Polly Prudence, the stay at home mother of 5 that homeschools, bakes from scratch, and goes to church 60+ times a year is 1/5th as likely to be depressed as Rad Rosie Riveter with her Masters in Organizational Theory and a job as junior assistant vice president of spreadsheets. She's more satisfied with her work and will live longer, too

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            no sense to talk with people with 0 logical mentality so bye

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Stop confusing me with facts! REEEEEEE!
            FTFY

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            wait, you are the one confused,
            ?????

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, silly, the discussion is in writing. Backtrack with the links and try to keep up, OK?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            u2

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i just said that women have genetics that make their brain prone do depression and stuff

            and ofc you all went nuts lmao idiots

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They don't necessarily. we see even levels of depression in women in some societies and in a very few women have lower levels of depression.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            extremes exists everywhere so what?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If the CULTURE determines depression then it isn't GENETIC

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            could be both
            and it is genetic

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >my opinions are facts
            my Black.. you're wrong

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >my source? i made it the frick up

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            read a fricking book.
            Also, LMK when you ask this poster

            gee i don't know, could it be all the societal pressures that are put on women for them to be petite and perfect in every way and if you're not you're a disgusting prostitute that no one wants?

            for a fricking source since you are firmly in the
            >everyone who agrees with me can say anything but anyone disagreeing has to provide 45 studies
            camp

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            no i want you to provide a source. this is your argument, not mine. i'm not doing work you should have done

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >yes, I am pulling a double standard
            FTFY
            My favorite part of this?
            The fact that research proves SAHMs are more fulfilled and better off has been front page news on and off for 40 years.
            >https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0192513X16663253?casa_token=NWuEQe2ir64AAAAA%3AKuXE0Wt_gIS7YGLV1pegRHDakvDnTuZ_ToLTCm6HiRegsNyGU8mT8FBGMV-xn2KSuX0QOKufH8hF&journalCode=jfia
            Meaning it is common knowledge for the educated

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Poor widdle lady, is google too hard for you with your long fingernails?
            >https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.STA.SUIC.FE.P5?locations=EU&most_recent_value_desc=true

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Okay, who is "society", and where is the formal notice you got where they told you that you had to do XYZ or else be entered into the Registry of "Disgusting prostitutes Nobody Wants"? Were they so kind as to enumerate the requirements, giving you a report card on your womanly attributes?
          Sarcasm aside, where is the evidence not just establishing what the frick "being perfect in every way means" but connecting it to being vitriolically attacked by all of society for not meeting that bar? This has frick all to do with what I experience. You haven't experienced it, either. You're getting angry over a problem of your own perception.

          If you take one moronic third worlder catcalling you and then insulting you when you don't go home with him as evidence of some sort of grand patriarchal conspiracy to keep womyn down, you're a lunatic.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >i've never experienced it therefore it's not a thing!
          uh... did i say that?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'll play your silly little game.
      If that is the case why are both of the following things true?
      >As feminism and equal rights INCREASED in the West between 1965 - 2015 why did female depression go *up* instead of down?
      >In the OECD and G20 nations the more gender equality and lack of gender stereotypes a nation has the MORE women are depressed yet as traditional gender norms go up and equality goes down female depression is LESS.
      ?
      Further, the more a woman is traditional/embraces traditional gender roles the less likely she is to be mentally ill while conversely the more feminist/progressive she is the more likely she is to be mentally ill?
      Three simple questions, you should be able to easily answer them

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        1. The mental health system is way better than it used to be. Many people were depressed in the past but no one noticed it.
        2. Countries with lower gender equality have worse healthcare so basically same thing as in 1.
        3. Traditional people are less likely to visit a therapist/psychiatrist even when they struggle.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not that anon, but at what point to you expect to see the fruits of liberalism?
          So far, it just keeps getting worse and worse. As we move closer and closer to equality, people get more alienated from each other and women get more depressed. Are you claiming that only a 100% equal society (whatever that means) will show women being less depressed? That women's rates of depression are constant, but only diagnoses change over time (or an even more contrived theory that they both get better outcomes and are simultaneously far likelier to be diagnosed with depression?)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            One of the most interesting effects of very Liberal societies with the lowest levels of gender discrimination?
            The HIGHEST levels of gender sorting in the workplace!
            In a nation like Norway, where men and women are as equal as can be and have the opportunity to be whatever they want there are effectively zero female plumbers, mining engineers, and so forth but also effectively zero male nurses, teachers, or day care workers.
            So to someplace like Saudi Arabia? TONS of female engineers, TONS of male teachers.
            The more "equal" a nation the more it resembles what Feminists claim a "Patriachy" looks like!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Many people were depressed in the past but no one noticed it.
          This fails to account for the fact that rates of suiide/self-harm, abandonment, etc. that reflect depression levels were also lower so all secondary markers say depression was lower and getting higher.
          so - you are wrong.
          2. Countries with lower gender equality have worse healthcare so basically same thing as in 1Totally moronic and frankly bigoted. Poland has worse healthcare than Norway? Not at all. Saudi Arabia has BETTER healthcare than Kuwait, and yet.... and so on.
          so - you are wrong again
          >Traditional people are less likely to visit a therapist/psychiatrist even when they struggle
          Again, the secondary markers do NOT support this since the rates of self-harm, addiction, suicide, etc. mirror depression rates and confirm the finding.
          Never mind the multiple multivariate studies that actively show Tradition women are much less prone to mental illness
          with feeling - you are very, very wrong.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Poland has worse healthcare than Norway? Not at all.
            Damn you picked a really wrong example, Norway has one of the best mental health care systems in Europe while mental health in Poland is heavily stigmatized. Not even talking about the Islamic countries.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Then why is female suicide in Norway so much higher than female suicide in Poland?
            Hmmmmm?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not true
            https://www.fhi.no/en/he/hin/mental-health/suicide/?term=
            https://countryeconomy.com/demography/mortality/causes-death/suicide/poland

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Look at the suicide rates from your own sources.
            Norway: about 6/100k for women
            Poland: 3.37

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >https://countryeconomy.com/demography/mortality/causes-death/suicide/poland
            The sources YOU POSTED
            >suicide rate among women in Norway: 5.9
            >Suicide rate among women in Poland: 3.4
            You
            >too stupid to read a chart

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It unironically is a death cult

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >all the societal pressures
      Aren't a gendered thing

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The fact that 90 years of research confirms that the lifestyle that makes women *most satisfied* is being a stay at home mother but the lifestyle promoted to women as the socially acceptable one, working woman, makes them *saddest*.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do women experience depression way more than men?
    men just don't talk about it

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    What do you think a "rate" is, you moron?

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Men either straight up rope or cope pretending they don't have it while women are more conscious about their feelings

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's got to be 100 males to 1 female ratio right now on dating apps.

    https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/women-are-not-dating-anymore-and-men-are-pissed-why/

    https://thekit.ca/living/living-relationships/women-are-quitting-dating-apps/

    >For as long as people have been promoting marriage, they have also been observing that a good man is hard to find. (See: William Julius Wilson or early Nora Ephron.) But what was once dismissed as the complaint of picky women is now supported by a raft of data. The same pundits plugging marriage also bemoan the crisis among men and boys, what has come to be known as male drift — men turning away from college, dropping out of the work force or failing to look after their health. Ms. Kearney, for example, acknowledges that improving the economic position of men, especially those without college degrees, is an important step toward making them more attractive partners.

    Also women now only use Facebook, Instagram, and those types of apps to meet people. They don't use dating apps anymore and if you don't have social media presence so they can screen you in order to imagine their life besides you, they will think you are a weird loner creep and ghost you.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they have too much casual sex then feel dirty/romantic problems with their nonexistent husbands/boyfriends. constantly trying to make the boy treat them like a virgin princess when theyre just average bawds and theres nothing they can do but frick to make the guy love them anymore. it's like a combination of confusion about why they are working and stress from competing with men for money, + regret and shame from casual sex, + deep emotional scars and longing for love from their bfs that they will never get. best case scenario they have beta bux kids and work all the time never paying attention to their bf or kids and eventually grow bored with the marriage but stay in it because it's better than going back to bawd mode. sometimes they still go back

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      reason i brought up confusion about work because every job with female workers theyre constantly mad and complaining about it. they hate work more than neets but do it anyway cause they know they cant become submissive wives since no men love them because they had too much casual sex

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lack of chad supply does not equal depression
    graph discarded

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks for your input incel

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        touched a nerve, roastie?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Women are more neurotic. What they express as depression "Chad only fricks me 6 days a week and I have to settle for Brad the other day"

          This right here is why women are depressed. Because men constantly put them down and make fun of their problems.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            90% of men would kill to have the "problems" women have.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            *99.9%, since israelites don't have problems

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because more women hold a (corporate) job today than men. They chose being a miserable slave. All we have to do now is to wait till they neck themselves between post wall and menopause.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do women experience depression way more than men?
    The solution to depression involves valuing what you're doing.
    The type of woman who gets depression is simply unaware that she is an active and conscious entity capable of finding worth and value by doing things. She is purely passive and expects things to be done to her. As this means her conscious will literally has no value, it makes her vulnerable to depression.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bullshit. Women are holes, not having a warm penis inside her makes her sick and depressed. Yet she is too brainwashed by her "career" to acknowledge that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is the sort of objectification and bullying women have to go through every day. And then someone wonders why they're depressed...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Women were nothing but holes in the paleolithic. Millions of years of evolution > your homosexual 50 years of emancipation.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Y1HDiDG.png

      Why do women experience depression way more than men?

      Oh, as for why there are more passive women than passive men:
      Because society keeps telling women it's okay to be passive so of course some of them believe it.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't - they just get diagnosed more. Men will never visit a doctor and will simply kill themselves after they've had enough.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this is the necessary reprecussions from ignoring men all your life.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women get upset about absolutely miniscule bullshit.
    A coworker can be slightly mean to a woman and she'll spend the whole day crying

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >spend all their time rotting their brain on social media by doom scrolling looking at women who are more popular and prettier
    >stab each other in the back like its some game
    I wonder.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't kill themselves so the depression genes never get weeded out

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women are more neurotic. What they express as depression "Chad only fricks me 6 days a week and I have to settle for Brad the other day"

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's because all the things we think we want and will bring us happiness (attention, people waiting hand and foot on us, people willing to give us money, access to sex at any time) actually don't make us as happy as we think they do.
    Why else do you think women are the more consumerist sex? Society has ensured that its the only string to their bow left

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