Why do women treat me so poorly?

Why do women treat me so poorly? They always reject me, they never message me first or respond very briefly when I message them. I'm not a super nice guy, I keep my distance and I'm not very ugly but I never had a good relationship with a girl of any sort. What the frick, should I just give up on them completely? I don't deserve any of this

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://archive.org/details/the-rational-male-rollo-tomassi

    Read this. Women are bullshit inherently but just go for calm distant Chad vibes then things will make more sense I think.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I read it years ago and I get the gist of it, when I said I keep my distance I meant that I am thst calm distant type, which is the primary reason as to why I'm confused. If I was bombarding them with attention, basically being too nice, I would know what's wrong. But I'm fairly neutral. Maybe I'm ugly in a way that I can't see, but then again why would women match with me on tinder, unless they like collecting matches

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How do you meet women? You mentioned tinder which is essentially dumpster diving.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I used to go an event which was a mix of public speaking and philosophy talk, but within a crowd of 10 people on average. So I asked out some girls there and more often than not they agreed to meet. But the end result was always friendzone. I stopped doing all that shit because it seems like a waste of time. I might be just very boring to them

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > I believe that all women are bullshit inherently and I purposely am distant and cold to every one.
    > Waaaa why don’t women like me waaaa
    You reap what you sow.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I used to be different and it was worse, it was the same result except I was clingy. Being cold is the only way that works in the sense of being able to detach myself quickly

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        But you do understand that you’re a hypocrite right? You treat women poorly and genuinely do not view them as equal to you, they treat you poorly back, and then you complain about it.
        Also stop thinking in dichotomies. There is a middle ground between annoyingly clingy and distant. It’s called being genuine. If you are interacting with women through dating apps you just have to come to terms with the fact that the dating pool is heavily skewed. For every one of you, there are 10 other guys for that one girl. If girls don’t “pick you” don’t take it personally, they are just inundated with messages all the time.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          How is it poor treatment though? I'm not cold like "I don't care about you", I'm cold in way where if you don't like me, no hard feelings. If a girl doesn't message me for a long time, I just assume I'm nothing to her and I just quietly move on. Like, what's the point of messaging someone that clearly forgot about you? Maybe I was just born incompatible with women, not even like in an autistic way, just incompatible in general.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Women need constant validation from you as a man and if they don’t get it their fragile egos begin to fracture. In their minds, it’s your job to initiate the conversation 99% of the time and so if you aren’t willing to shower them in this way then you might as well step aside for Chad Thunderwiener to do his thing. Of course, he’ll get sick of her shit in time and leave as a result, as always. It’s pretty fricking tiresome to be honest.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            isn't showering women with attention the definition of being a beta male? do you imagine attractive men just starting every conversation while she doesn't bother herself?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Apparently you don’t understand female nature. They live for male validation but only from men that are attractive to them. It’s not beta. It’s evolutionary. If you aren’t willing to play the game then just step aside and let Chad do what you clearly don’t have the balls to. It is what it is. I don’t play stupid games and I don’t win stupid prizes. Never been happier than I am today as a single 28 year old.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You know Theres a middle road between actively avoiding them and showering them with attention right

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            such as? i'm not even being ironic here, what is the actual route between those, because to me it feels like if a woman is into you, she'll start conversations herself (which means you don't have to do anything really) and everything else means she's not into you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It would be accepting interaction when its offered and occasionally approaching them if you have in interest to speak to them

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >For every one of you, there are 10 other guys for that one girl. If girls don’t “pick you” don’t take it personally, they are just inundated with messages all the time.

          How can you not take it personally? That just means they chose some other guy over you and you weren't good enough. Of course I will take that personally. They're telling me I am not good enough.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I've learned that literally the only way to defeat this is to be texting 10 prospects at once just like they do. If you don't have any then find some. Now I care less if I get left on read or if they find someone else because I have multiple other girls I can text.

            Not even ones that are necessarily interested, but you never know what could happen in the future. At least that's what I tell myself. Lmfao

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do women treat me so poorly? They always reject me,
    >I'm not a super nice guy, I keep my distance

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Again, what is wrong with keeping a distance?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How do you expect people to get to know you if you dont engage

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I've been told many times that the emotionally distant chad is the one who gets the girls. Would you say that's false?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I do admit I got much more attention when I was the funny guy who didn't give a frick but back then I was much less self aware. Now I'm just depressed

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So change your approach. Its not over.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Self awareness is basically neuroticism in its pure form. Trying to 'seem cool and detached' deliberately abd focusing your attention towards yourself will make you lose a feeling for what is really important to you, what your motivation even is in engaging a girl. Instead of drawing energy from that excitement of wanting to get to know someone and hitting it off (genuinity), you constrain yourself (which in turn seems awkward to others). The other anon is right about there being infinite posibilities between acting clingy and distant/unatached. But for not acting clingy you need some security in who you are and in knowing that you can interact with women. It all comes with practice after all.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, stop being moronic. Cultivate strong relationships with others and pussy just happens.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How do you expect people to get to know you if you dont engage

        *crickets*

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    First of all women expect men to initiate, they almost never flirt first. If you don't talk to them they won't notice you.

    Second, you are talking about internet dating. They respond briefly because every woman's inbox is swamped with messages from hundreds of guys.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you're only pursuing women for relationships, and that isn't working for you, you're doing something wrong. I know a lot of people here think women are inherently evil sociopaths or whatever, but regardless, they communicate with each other and if you're going around hitting on whatever women you can find and totally bailing when they aren't available, you're going to get a reputation with girls. Befriend women. Talk to them about their interests (pretending to care about bullshit you hate, or at least not being actively hostile to it is a useful skill to hone early on). Ask them for advice, if you get close to any of them. Go to their parties and hang out with their friends. Your chances are better statistically if you have an overall positive relationship with women - meeting a bunch of women that you can stand and being introduced to their friends with similar temperaments is a much better bet than just hard approaching any woman you can find, which is essentially shooting a fish in a barrel.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think you nailed a really big problem that I have, which is I have 0 female friends because I cut everyone off who's not interested in me and I don't talk to anyone I'm not interested in (romantically)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >meeting a bunch of women that you can stand and being introduced to their friends with similar temperaments is a much better bet than just hard approaching any woman you can find
      Hasn't been my experience. I've only ever met romantic partners through cold approaching. I've made plenty of female friends/associates and they don't try to introduce me to their friends.

      I know I'm not the problem because my exes friends still love me. Just ran into one last night.

      I think women are just very territorial

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is excellent advice. It's like getting a job. Networking gets your more and better opportunities.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I've networked hard af the last year and ah half but I've only made female friends from that, not partners. Partners only came from cold approaches.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Women treat me politely and aren't outright cruel to me usually, but they will reject me or ghost me if I express any romantic interest. I think they think I'm a "nice guy" but ugly. I'd rather be thought of as an unlikeable butthole than nice guy if it meant I'd attract more women, honestly.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have nowhere to even meet women who are not total strangers. No friends , fully remote job no "outgoing" hobby

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Don't give up. Finding a good woman can be hard work. Keep trying. It's worth it. I found mine and she's the best thing that ever happened to me.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And how did that happen?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    read rollo tomassi get strong and get rich and talk to other girls.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because they can get away it with it and know that you'll look like an butthole if you call them out on it.

    Call them out on it and then don't talk to them again

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