Why have males been under the idea that women aren't attracted to attractive men

On this board or actually just in general it seems foreign to men that women actually have standards. Like if you bring up how short men aren't attractive or how balding men aren't attractive men go apeshit as if it's a shock to them? For as long as I can remember women have obsessed about looks and yet males think that women solely go for personality as if we can somehow overlook if a male is grossly unattractive. There's also another thing which I don't understand and that is the double standard. It's okay for men to say that they don't like fat girls yet when women say that they don't like short men it's somehow different or if women want men who at least earn the same amount as they do they are suddenly gold digging prostitutes lmao

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    whats your definition of short?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anything under 6 foot 1 is short to me.

      Every women say the same shit, tall, rich, handsome and etc. Of course that's the ideal but we all know they're the vastly minority. Meanwhile men say they have a type but it's very loosely, if you aren't a landwhale or a dragon you can get almost any single guy out there just by approaching him and being gentle.

      Besides men normally talk about things that can change, weight and personality, while women talk about immutable things like height and being handsome

      >meanwhile men say they have a type
      No they go further than that. They shame any woman who doesn't fit into their "type"

      Fatness is a choice, being bald or short are not.

      There are hormonal disorders that cause weight gain 🙂

      Because there's a lot of messaging that women are less "looks driven" and care more about "personality" and "vibes". Looks are the main factor for sure

      From where? In my experience we have been very adamant about what we find attractive.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >There are hormonal disorders that cause weight gain 🙂
        Yes, thyroid disorders, which 99% of people don't have.
        Nice excuse, you ugly fat b***h.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Anything under 6'1" is short to me
        I'm 6'0" and I bet I can carry you with one hand. I doubt you even can tell the difference between a 6'0" and a 6'1"

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anything under 6 foot 1 just looks short to me.

          I don't think guys here would mind this, if there wasn't SO LITTLE FRICKING VARIANCE in those preferences. It's almost as if every single woman is attracted to the same things, and if you don't happen to have those, then you're fricked.

          It seems like it bothers you a lot? How do you think fat women feel when moids compare them to whales?

          and why is it a surprise for women that ugly men just aren't going to protect them anymore! oh you're getting beat or raped or killed? Damn, not my problem though!

          Men have almost never protected women.

          Men understand being attracted to attractive people. What they didn't understand was that the threshold for what's "attractive" is so high it cuts out 80% of men. And the requirements are literally all things outside of your control.

          Most of it is not out of your control. You can get leg length surgery and hair transplants plus losing weight if you are fat because fat is feminine.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >How do you think fat women feel when moids compare them to whales?
            Except there is plenty of chubby chasers. You will need to look really fricking hard to find a woman who e.g. prefers short guys. Also, I don't have a horse in this race. I'm just able to have some empathy for others.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You mean feeders and fat fetishists? Why do males always bring up fetishists as if it that proves anything?

            >Why have males been under the idea that women aren't attracted to attractive men
            Probably because women constantly lie and talk about "muh personality". You also endlessly seethe when its correctly pointed out that to woman personality just means height.

            Since when? Looks have always mattered and women have always been attracted to attractive men. I think that many women think that its a given fact that men should undesirable that we aren't attracted to uggos. Do we really need to spell it out for you?

            >How do you think fat women feel when moids compare them to whales?
            They could just lose the weight though?
            There are plenty of guys who like fat chicks or would settle for them anyway so it's not comparable.

            Fat fetishists are not a choice.

            They know how to detect height well
            But abusing partners not
            Which bring the real question
            [...]
            nona
            Why so much women go for drug dealers or other men who would abuse them?

            [...]
            From when fat is feminine?

            There is no double standard
            Women think is ok to judge by height and Man think is ok to judge by weight

            Fat males literally have boobs, No woman wants to date a man who looks like he has breasts.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Fat fetishists are not a choice.
            You want a guy who finds your body disgusting to love you despite this?
            Just lose the weight, it'd be easier.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You mean feeders and fat fetishists? Why do males always bring up fetishists as if it that proves anything?
            You know what this proves? That when it comes to weight preferences, there is VARIANCE in what men like, from malnourished to obese. And this is the case for other characteristics as well. Something that either doesn't seem to exist, or is severely less pronounced in what women prefer in men.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All men have a fetish that drives what they find attractive. Women all find the exact same things attractive purely based ok instinct. They are the most shallow of all.
            Proof. Statistically men of higher status tend towards marrying bartenders, fast food workers, etc.
            Women never do such things.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >How do you think fat women feel when moids compare them to whales?
            They could just lose the weight though?
            There are plenty of guys who like fat chicks or would settle for them anyway so it's not comparable.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >leg length surgery
            You're comparing dumb expensive surgery that'll turn you into a cripple with just eating less and doing exercises. Women really aren't logical creatures

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I was just gonna say this exact thing
            This is just another bait thread

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They know how to detect height well
          But abusing partners not
          Which bring the real question

          https://i.imgur.com/aLAuDUT.jpeg

          On this board or actually just in general it seems foreign to men that women actually have standards. Like if you bring up how short men aren't attractive or how balding men aren't attractive men go apeshit as if it's a shock to them? For as long as I can remember women have obsessed about looks and yet males think that women solely go for personality as if we can somehow overlook if a male is grossly unattractive. There's also another thing which I don't understand and that is the double standard. It's okay for men to say that they don't like fat girls yet when women say that they don't like short men it's somehow different or if women want men who at least earn the same amount as they do they are suddenly gold digging prostitutes lmao

          nona
          Why so much women go for drug dealers or other men who would abuse them?

          Anything under 6 foot 1 just looks short to me.
          [...]
          It seems like it bothers you a lot? How do you think fat women feel when moids compare them to whales?
          [...]
          Men have almost never protected women.
          [...]
          Most of it is not out of your control. You can get leg length surgery and hair transplants plus losing weight if you are fat because fat is feminine.

          From when fat is feminine?

          There is no double standard
          Women think is ok to judge by height and Man think is ok to judge by weight

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Judging for height and judging for weight arent the same
            Genetics makes you tall or short you have no choice
            Fat women are fat because they are lazy and slobs
            One isnt a choice the other is. They are not the same.

          • 3 weeks ago
            sage

            You know what I agree with you
            Genetic does effect fat, but as long you do regular activity and eat healthy you should be able to lose weight

            https://i.imgur.com/aLAuDUT.jpeg

            On this board or actually just in general it seems foreign to men that women actually have standards. Like if you bring up how short men aren't attractive or how balding men aren't attractive men go apeshit as if it's a shock to them? For as long as I can remember women have obsessed about looks and yet males think that women solely go for personality as if we can somehow overlook if a male is grossly unattractive. There's also another thing which I don't understand and that is the double standard. It's okay for men to say that they don't like fat girls yet when women say that they don't like short men it's somehow different or if women want men who at least earn the same amount as they do they are suddenly gold digging prostitutes lmao

            This is a bait thread
            OP is a dude which tries to imitate land whale

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Anything under 6 foot 1 is short to me.
        90% of the male population of the US are under 6'1".
        So you are immediately eliminating all but 10% of men in America (basically everyone outside of Europe and North America is under this height as well, so it's closer to 1% of men you're looking for if you are in some developing country).
        The thing is though, superficial traits like height don't have anything to do with him or her being a stable, loving partner. Men find big breasts and round asses attractive, but that tells you nothing about whether she's going to be good relationship material either.
        Now contrary to most people here, I have no skin in the game because I'm already happily married to a great girl. I'm coming at this from a pure numbers game. Most people's problems on Earth seem to be down to innumeracy. If you're going to immediately eliminate 85-90% of all potential matches for something they can't control, you're going to remain lonely and occasionally used and chucked by the rare time you manage to get that superficial thing you require.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I have no skin in the game because I'm already happily married to a great girl
          Happy for you, anon. Do you happen to have any advice for single men?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sure, but I can't promise you haven't heard it before.
            Finding someone to date (anyone) is just a numbers game, but you can tilt the numbers in your favor. If it's not working for you in your local area, you have to be willing to get away and try something new where you are more appreciated. There are 4 billion girls on this planet and they're not all like OP is pretending to be.
            Now I know people are going to reply to this saying they have this and that issue which prevents them from being liked. Sure there are people who are 0/10s in looks who will find it extremely challenging, but most people are average. Get yourself out there and keep trying. That's all there is to it.
            You're going to be 30, 40, 50, etc anyway, might as well try to be with someone at those ages if you want it than being without anyone.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i like your advice because it's down to earth
            do you have any tips for a mentally ill moron like me who wishes to find somebody into sciences but has negative self esteem, cant start a conversation even with males and doesn't have friends irl nor online?
            the best two courses of action i could come up with for now are to try vrchat or ask for help from family
            i will consider any statement regarding my lack of reproduction as a form of natural selection as correct and factual

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry for the delayed responses, bros.

            >but has negative self esteem, cant start a conversation even with males and doesn't have friends irl nor online?
            You've listed three things that are "red flags" as normies say but they're fixable. Now, I don't know what mental illness you may have, but I'm going to treat you like someone who can overcome it as well.
            >the best two courses of action i could come up with for now are to try vrchat or ask for help from family
            Those are actually good ideas because it gets you out of your (un)comfort zone. A lot of normie advice is bullshit, obviously, but some they really got right "you miss every opportunity you don't take" and "put yourself out there". I know from personal experience that hiding away, never trying anything guarantees failure. You have to play the game if you want to win a prize.
            We are kind of hindered these days with the destruction of the "third space" but in reality, those places are still there so you can find something that interests you or at least has people in it. I'm assuming you want to actually go out to places because otherwise there's no point in asking. So my very basic, and likely often repeated advice is "be seen". Also that negative self-esteem thing, I get it. But no one is going to respect you or want to be friends with you even until you have a small amount of respect for yourself. So work on that by whatever you can to improve your life and have something to be proud of. Skills, talents, etc.
            I'm sorry if this is basic shit, but it really sounds like we need to start there. I wish you the best of luck.

            I agree, it's just that the grind wears you down. You have to develop good mental resiliency. May I ask if you've married? Do you plan to?

            My biggest fear is finding that person then having everything ruined by being divorce-raped.

            >it's just that the grind wears you down
            Absolutely it does.
            >You have to develop good mental resiliency.
            Totally. That requires adjusting your mindset to seeing the initial interactions as practice. If it goes wrong, you've found things that don't work. Now you know, try something else.
            >May I ask if you've married?
            Yep. She's a keeper.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I agree, it's just that the grind wears you down. You have to develop good mental resiliency. May I ask if you've married? Do you plan to?

            My biggest fear is finding that person then having everything ruined by being divorce-raped.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it seems foreign to men that women actually have standards

        Those standards are too high. You dont need a 11/10 chad if youre not an 11/10 stacey. Girls need to learn to settle. We dont live in caves anymore the surivial of the tribe doesnt depend on you sourcing good genetics.

        >They shame any woman who doesn't fit into their "type"
        Also you
        >anything under 6ft is short to me

        Stop replying to these bait threads guys.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >We dont live in caves anymore the surivial of the tribe doesnt depend on you sourcing good genetics.
          It's a self-correcting problem. See the wine aunt epidemic.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >For as long as I can remember women have obsessed about looks and yet males think that women solely go for personality as if we can somehow overlook if a male is grossly unattractive.

    Sugar and Spice and everything nice, thats what little girls are made off

    Slugs and Snails and Puppy dog tails, thats what little boys are made of.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every women say the same shit, tall, rich, handsome and etc. Of course that's the ideal but we all know they're the vastly minority. Meanwhile men say they have a type but it's very loosely, if you aren't a landwhale or a dragon you can get almost any single guy out there just by approaching him and being gentle.

    Besides men normally talk about things that can change, weight and personality, while women talk about immutable things like height and being handsome

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey I like dragons

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    both men and women are attracted to looks, that's a given
    what i also see is that both sides go apeshit over it
    >woman wants a tall/chiseled jawline/wide shouldered guy
    >men call them vapid prostitutes who only care about looks
    >man wants a cute, young slim girl
    >women call him a mysoginist homosexual or whatever, who also only care about looks
    i might be biased but i do see way more women making an uproar about it than the men do
    feel free to prove me wrong on that, either way both sides are moronic

    whoever gives more of a frick about looks than personality, man or woman, deserves to end up with an extremely attractive partner
    except that will be their only redeeming quality and they'll be highly stupid and b***hy to deal with, and probably conceited/entitled due to their natural beauty

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fatness is a choice, being bald or short are not.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because there's a lot of messaging that women are less "looks driven" and care more about "personality" and "vibes". Looks are the main factor for sure

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because women say it? Every fricking time girls say they prefer personality but at the same time they rejected men of their height. Women always say one thing and do the other, that's why trusting in them is the dumbest mistake morons make

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    aw sweet bait thread. I am going to kill myself

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most men are moronic and/or will lie to score brownie points with women.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No seriously on what board did you intend to post this

    Surely not on this one where the term CHADsexual is used all the time

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's their entitlement, coming from a place of laziness and incompetence.

    Let's take baldies for example. A bald incel. Unsuccessful in the tinder app and all that jazz.

    He cries that people with hair are more successful, but some baldies manage to get gfs so gets refuted quickly, he gets mad.

    He bemoans the standards of girls and how he doesn't get a chance, but some baldies get gfs that seem well above their league so gets refuted quickly, he gets mad.

    He says it's unfair something he can control takes him out of getting a gf, but some baldies get gfs without any issues so he gets refuted quickly, he gets mad.

    He spams NSFFW trying to repeat his debunked points into truths, saying it's hopeless for him and how unfair it is. He starts blaming girls for having standards he pretends to not have, he starts blaming girls for condemning him and all balds to a life of suffering. He blames feminism, in the past he would have gotten a gf even if bald! Women ruined the world.

    But baldies keep getting gfs without any issues. He gets refuted quickly. He gets mad. His entitlement, his tantrums, are a lost battle against reality. He's a NSFFW spammer, a worthless being that won't get a gf anytime soon if he keeps crying.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think guys here would mind this, if there wasn't SO LITTLE FRICKING VARIANCE in those preferences. It's almost as if every single woman is attracted to the same things, and if you don't happen to have those, then you're fricked.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, guys say tall girls, short girls, big breasts, small breasts, blacks, white, asian and etc.
      Meanwhile girls are the same shit every time
      >tall
      >rich
      >handsome

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        girls are just coping and seething because men have a solid standard for what they want and its actually very broad, while women have no idea what they want and make believe theyre the equal of men

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    and why is it a surprise for women that ugly men just aren't going to protect them anymore! oh you're getting beat or raped or killed? Damn, not my problem though!

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am an attractive man and girls arent into me
    girls seem really stupid and pathetic, but imagine how hellish life would be if you got no pleasure from sex

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Men understand being attracted to attractive people. What they didn't understand was that the threshold for what's "attractive" is so high it cuts out 80% of men. And the requirements are literally all things outside of your control.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think this sums it up quite nicely, women's standards are just beyond the average unlike men's standards.
      Doesn't matter anyway, OP is clearly just some butthurt fat pig who is lashing out at us because Chad turned her down.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you didn't copy paste this then unironically have a nice day for spending this much time on obtuse bait.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why have males been under the idea that women aren't attracted to attractive men
    Probably because women constantly lie and talk about "muh personality". You also endlessly seethe when its correctly pointed out that to woman personality just means height.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What if i was 33 and only slightly unattractive but i was willing to polish your soles and butthole with my tongue until you could see your reflection in them? Anal worship, scatdom even nothings off limits with me hahaha. Would you consider me???

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    well, femanon, are you white, thin, with a good face?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm white.

      >You mean feeders and fat fetishists? Why do males always bring up fetishists as if it that proves anything?
      You know what this proves? That when it comes to weight preferences, there is VARIANCE in what men like, from malnourished to obese. And this is the case for other characteristics as well. Something that either doesn't seem to exist, or is severely less pronounced in what women prefer in men.

      So what? I said before that fat was feminine. It is why women can be fat and still date males out of her league.

      Judging for height and judging for weight arent the same
      Genetics makes you tall or short you have no choice
      Fat women are fat because they are lazy and slobs
      One isnt a choice the other is. They are not the same.

      Both are changeable. Women can lose weight and men can get leg length surgery.

      >yet males think that women solely go for personality as if we can somehow overlook if a male is grossly unattractive.
      Men do not think this. Women constantly pretend this is true and tell men this because they are evil.

      No we don't. We have always been adamant about our preferences in males. You just choose not to listen because the truth hurts your ego.

      All men have a fetish that drives what they find attractive. Women all find the exact same things attractive purely based ok instinct. They are the most shallow of all.
      Proof. Statistically men of higher status tend towards marrying bartenders, fast food workers, etc.
      Women never do such things.

      Yes all men have porn brain. They can never genuinely love women the same way women love men.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        stop lying moronic prostitute and also have a nice day and your entire family

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >So what?
        So hopefully you realize that there is a premise baked into the question of the title of this thread in the word "attractive", that does a lot of heavy lifting, and thus completely misses the source of male venting on this site.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >No we don't. We have always been adamant about our preferences in males. You just choose not to listen because the truth hurts your ego.
        Women are moronic liars. All you can do is lie. You lie then lie about lying. I think you don't even realize you're doing it since you're so fricking stupid like a dog you forget about it an hour later. You need to be shot in the head.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lol
          >some girl will like you for you!
          >not me though
          >some poor, misguided girl
          >definitely not me though, EEEWW

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Women can lose weight and men can get leg length surgery.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nice strawman. You don't deserve my elaboration, hole.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >yet males think that women solely go for personality as if we can somehow overlook if a male is grossly unattractive.
    Men do not think this. Women constantly pretend this is true and tell men this because they are evil.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    are you not aware what board youre on

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >It's okay for men to say that they don't like fat girls yet when women say that they don't like short men it's somehow different
    Is this a joke?

  24. 3 weeks ago
    sage

    >Like if you bring up how short men aren't attractive or how balding men aren't attractive men go apeshit as if it's a shock to them?
    HAHAHA it's not a shock, we know we are short and fricked.

    nice bait though

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not even sure women are truly attracted to attractive men if I'm honest here

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"why have males been under the idea that women aren't attracted to attractive men"
    what compels OP to make random things up

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reddit and normalgays will tell ugly guys that they just have to be confident or be themselves or they know a 5'5 indian janitor that is really nice and gets a lot of girls (although incidentally they never date these guys, they just know this guy). They do this because they need to give you a carrot on a stick to chase after. If they admit the truth, most people will lose any motivation to participate in the rat race. The rat race and betabux route is how you can make up for it, but its not going to create actual raw sexual desire. Nevertheless, the system tries to entice you with the illusion of "love", monogamy and so on, but this system is decaying rapidly so all pretenses are gone and the blackpill is taking off.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The same threads every day the same bait every day for year upon years upon years upon years.
    Race mixing troll thread
    Cuck troll thread
    troony troll thread
    Another Cuck troll thread
    Fake femcel baiting thread
    Ten years from now there will be posts asking why short people can't get girls
    Twenty years from now someone posts girls should be able to have standards on things that are impossible for humans to controls
    Thirty years from now a thread is made about how women sucks because they refuse to frick anyone besides actual Disney characters.

    Nothing ever changes, everything stays the same.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    im wealthy because of my grand folks and i would only pick a wealthy girl to be with kek, no poor ugly girls, in fact i have a group of friends and a few date poor girls just for the thrill, also wealthy girls are into weird shit that i like, snorting cocaine from their buttholes, fricking while the maids are forced to look, shit like that, everyone is entitled to like whatever they want tho

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's really sad is that the women today won't be crushed under the boot for their behavior. Very sad.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hi eveeybody op here ^_^
    Im trans, thank you for validating my girlhood with your hate. Now im going back to my gf(male) while you mald

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >It's okay for men to say that they don't like fat girls yet when women say that they don't like short men it's somehow different or if women want men who at least earn the same amount as they do they are suddenly gold digging prostitutes lmao
    Frick off and lower your standards you putrid b***h, unattractive men dont have standards but unattractive women do, your standards are fricking bullshit and you are a bad person

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I guess both sides really do have selective hearing/memory huh

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because attractive is subjective

    anyway you would not date a physically attractive man if he offered no social currency or way to provide for your needs, so it is hardly the only factor

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