Why have men stopped approaching women?

Why have men stopped approaching women?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they only want chad to approach. non-chads approaching is sexual harrasment.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hello rapist department?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anyone have the gem edit of this?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          frick you jannies, this comment isn't too low in content

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That one's good too
            Thanks friend

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          here's one you can make a template form

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if this is real he's 100% just trying to frick the girl himself I've worked in bars for seven years and I haven't met a single bartender that gets protective over female customers unless they just want them for themselves
        if a guy brings up "angel shots" you can assume he's trying to pound every woman that walks into the bar

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is that the facial expression of someone offering discrete help or is it the facial expression of someone asked to hold someone else's note for an instagram photo?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i hope she showed it to the guy and they both started laughing at him

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >be the girl
        >be bored
        >put tonypail on other shoulder just to see what happens
        >action
        >leave feeling like you're a smartass

      • 3 weeks ago
        ruby

        holy shit is the bar man handing a note to a alcoholic gorilla look at those fricking fingers

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >non-chads approaching is sexual harrasment.
      This. Can personally arrest to it. Have asked out 70 to 80 women in the last 3 years. ( Roughly 3 a month) I've gotten no dates and 2 close sexual assault threats. I've given up.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      /thread. You basically said it, there is nothing to add.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. It's pointless to even attempt it.
      Women need to show interest for anything to happen and they never show interest. Chad or nothing now.
      Even when I somehow get likes and matches (despite being a bald manlet), they never speak; so sex never happens.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they never speak; so sex never happens
        The likes and matches you get on dating apps as a nonchad are from bots for you to engage and keep pumping money in.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    approach women
    >noooo this is harassment!
    dont approach women
    >nooo why dont men approach anymore

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >women ask for men to stop approaching
      >they do
      >complain because you got exactly what you asked for
      It's like pottery

      >Women asked to not be approached on regular places
      >morons think that they don't want to be approached in a party
      Lmao, guys in here are low IQ

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dumbest post on NSFFW right now lmao

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          was he wrong tho?
          this post isn't original

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            absolutely, never approach women when they're drunk. That's absolutely asking for them to accuse you of rape, even if you were also drunk.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Exact scenario in pic happened in Switched at Birth (TV series). Dude lost everything. Disowned, kicked out of school, etc.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            is you for cereal, Black person?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah, english aint my language, i have difficulty understanding somethings

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You do this and then they complain about getting harassed and creeped on at parties like it happens wherever they go. You don't get it, Black person: If you approach a woman anywhere and you aren't to her liking, you're labeled the worst things a man can be called.

        Men are waking up.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Women asked to not be approached on regular places
        >morons think that they don't want to be approached in a party
        You are actively lying. Like you never heard of "She is in the party to have fun not being harassed" or something like that.
        Also hoes drunk. No one is moron enough to want to go to jail for a quick frick

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No one knows what "regular places are", and they absolutely will complain if the wrong person talks to them at a party. God forbid she get drunk and accidentally have sex with the wrong person. We've all heard these stories enough times now.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Except you can find hundreds if not thousands of posts going like
        >i am just here to spend some time with my girl-friends why do men come up tp me ewww
        They just want attractive people, not average joe, simple as. The girl in the op feels insecure and wants attention so she can b***h about it online

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A bar is a public place too. YOure basically a creep if you talk to women there

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't want some bar prostitute trash. I rarely drink, but if I'm going to bar it's because I'm already with friends and celebrating something. Why the frick can't I just approach women at a library or something where I know our interests are already similar?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cultural shift. Guys get used to not approaching women and using apps to meet and frick instead. Now they don't do it even when women want it because they're not mind readers.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like entitlement. If you want me to approach its at the bus stop, on public transport, or while you're at work and can't get away. That's my final offer. No? Too bad so sad cry me a river baby boo hoo waa waa womp womp.

        LMAO

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        thats not the issue. The issue is that womens standards are really high, and they dont want the average guy to approach them despite being average themselves.
        which honestly should not be an issue. If you can't get laid, it's your fault. not women.
        there's a ton of porn out there for you to goon your little beta boy clit to. enjoy life no matter what hand you are delt and let guys like me have multiple women at a time 🙂

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Poast n00dz

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            of women i know or me? i am a guy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is little incentive to read between lines with the stakes so high. Why would you gamble your livelihood or future on a precarious partnership?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          When put that way, the homosexualry rates rising seems like a reasonable tactic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      approach women
      >noooo this is RAPE
      dont approach women
      >nooo this is NEGLECT RAPE

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the lesson is to rape women

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The literal picture you attached explains it already. You're moronic. Either you're a bot or you're genuinely moronic. have a nice day. Like, genuinely. This question gets asked over and over again despite the answer being in the question itself. Do us all a favor and do it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Settle down little man, some of us just have concerns that the answer provided may be incorrect.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To be honest, I already have the answer. I just want a hug... u-...ughhhuhuhuuuuu...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Correct

      Settle down little man, some of us just have concerns that the answer provided may be incorrect.

      No he's right, you should seriously have a nice day in the head

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Settle down little man, some of us just have concerns that the answer provided may be incorrect.

      Correct
      [...]
      No he's right, you should seriously have a nice day in the head

      I also endorse the idea of OP getting a cute necklace which pendant is the ceiling

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, this is something I see a lot. OP knows the answer to the question, but he just wanted to discuss it anyway.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Ya'll went on about how you dont want guys approaching so now theyve stopped
    Maybe next time you can read the full comment before posting it.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >women ask for men to stop approaching
    >they do
    >complain because you got exactly what you asked for
    It's like pottery

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they only wanted losers like you to stop approaching, they still want chad to.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Uh huh sure thing m8

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Chad stopped approaching too, in solidarity with his fellow men. Bros before hoes.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          thanks chad original

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that would be based if real but unfortunately chad has even less competition now so no reason to stop

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Chad stopped approaching because once a man reaches a certain level of attractiveness, the dynamic becomes reversed. Female attention is so easily accessible to him that it becomes mundane. He does not need to actively pursue relationships as he is constantly tripping over pussy in the course of living his everyday life.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Only because why even bother when you can just use dating apps

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i can never use dating apps because i take 3 selfies a year and have like 3 good ones

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're close but you don't fully get it. Chad never stopped approaching. They do want the losers to approach but they don't want to say yes. They want to complain about it while also reaping the reward of validation.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ask for men to stop approaching
      >>they do
      because you got exactly what you asked for
      >>It's like pottery

      >Take girl on date
      >Ask if she needs me to take her home
      >No
      >Ask if she needs a Taxi
      >No
      >I go home
      >She rings up and asks why I didn't take her home

      y'know what? Go frick yourselves.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>She rings up and asks why I didn't take her home
        lmaooo I had a girl pull that shit in college. I offered to walk her home after dinner, she declined, and then later on told a bunch of her friends I was an butthole cause I didn't escort her. Women, not even once.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      many such cases, moronic creatures!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fr like women created this environment
      my whole life i've been told shit like giving your phone number is harrassment and i listened

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But they didn't want ALL men to stop approaching, only sub-7 men.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't believe that stuff

    I think it's hags that hit the wall and didn't notice and stopped getting approached thinking everybody did

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think a little of both. Even fat women think they can get Chad these days so maybe these are fat roasties upset Chad didn't shoot his shot 🙁

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As a zoomer, Ive approached girls my age in the past but it feels like talking to a brick wall or customer service. Either that or some girls will try to leave the interaction as fast as they can. Not sure if this is just an experience unique to me but yeah idk

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's across the board. Social skills are almost nil.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Once you have been successful in getting a gf or whatever it is you want from girls, you kind of get this confidence that makes it easier to talk to them so keep at it zbro

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am also a zoomer. This experience is not unique to you. It's difficult to even get a proper rejection nowadays, it's as if they expect you to deduce from "le hints" that you got rejected.
      Bitches complain that they don't get approached, but when they do, their response is basically TV static.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All the internet fault, how addictive it, mobile phone and social media are makes so people socialise less and therefore become worst at it because of lack of practise.
    There is also the fact that since dating apps are a thing, there are other ways to approach stangers that aren't as stressful.
    Fear of being called a rapist and such post metoo are a distant third, people see themselves ass good and most normies think meetoo is at least somewhat justified which only or mainly affect evil sexual aggressor which they don't think they could ever be.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I ain't approaching women at a bar anyway women that drink and go to bars are trashy as frick

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Approaching a woman means competing with her phone. Here's the rub: very few people on this planet are more interesting than a machine that can instantly load dopamine straight into your brain whenever you want, wherever you want. Only the richest, most gorgeous people with the most incredible lives can compete with the non-stop pleasure overload of TikTok.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this is the worst thing i've read this year. thanks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think you make a great point. That phone has warped expectations of both women and men and real life is a let down.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >That phone has warped expectations of both women and men and real life is a let down.
        shut the frick up you stupid fricking roastie.

        Wanting a non-fat girl with a cute face is not chasing a super model as you try and gas light us into thinking is. Put the fricking fork down fatty.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >phone has warped expectations of both women and men and real life is a let down.
          Male expectations
          >Don't be fat
          Female expectations
          >6'+
          >$100,000+ yearly income
          >6"+ dick
          >"dad bod" requires years at the gym

          Why can't men do the bare minimum? The bar is literally on the floor? Just get taller.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >non-stop pleasure overload of TikTok.
      The fact zoomers enjoy that worthless trash says everything that needs to be said about zoomers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dangerously insightful post.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    we know what their standards are and we know what we look like. it's that simple.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would we? If we're not getting Tinder matches, why the frick would we think girls irl would like us when there's even more pressure?

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would I approach these demons. Best case scenario is I end up in another relationship where my self esteem gets chipped away little by little over the course of a few years, only to be cheated on and left a mental wreck for a few years.
    Not doing this again. Women can get fricked.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How could people "look like they're waiting for dudes to approach"? Do they have "guys, please approach me" written on their faces or something? What exactly makes someone guess such a specific motivation from someone who just "looks bored"?
    What would I have to do to look like I'm waiting for guys to approach me?
    How would I make it look different from "look like I'm waiting for happy hour" or "look like I'm browsing the social media with my phone"?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty sure you shouldn't be too bored at the club.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Pretty sure you shouldn't be too bored at the club.
        Yeah, someone who looks bored probably looks annoyed. Approaching a group of already salty women is unlikely to end well so no one bothers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Often women will try to make eye contact, smile, or stand near someone they're attracted to in hopes that they will turn towards them and start up converstaion.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've never had a random woman smile at me in my life lmao, this hurts so bad it's unreal

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lmao they make blowjob motions to Chads, get the frick out here

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They expect men to do this despite thinking most men are socially moronic?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    until proven otherwise i will see and treat each woman like the average social media using tinder thot, which means they would never date me and think lesser of me because i'm not a male model

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have never been to a bar and not seen genders mingling with each other. Normies go wild in a bar

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nowadays it's mostly men and women who already know each other if you see them mingling in public, not guys approaching girls they have never seen before. Groups of normie couples out together, coworkers going out for Happy Hour, fratbros arranging to go out with some sorostitutes, a man and a woman meeting up IRL after talking on an app for a few days. Those are all way different scenarios than a man or a group of guys cold approaching an unknown woman/an unknown group of women.

      Chads don't need to approach women because women approach them and if they use apps their inbox is overflowing with matches. Non-Chads have had it beaten into us for the last decade that women never want to be approached in public because they're just here to buy groceries/have a drink with their friends/sip coffee while reading a book etc. And we're aware the worst thing that can happen is not her politely declining.
      >she causes a huge scene and acts like a total c**t
      >the girl you approach or her friend records you and uploads it to social media
      >simps/bouncers intervene on behalf of m'lady and act like they're preventing a rape
      >she's there with her bf but you didn't see him and now he wants to confront you
      >even if you manage to dodge every pitfall and get laid all she has to do is regret it the next day and now your life is over because you retroactively raped her, somehow women can simultaneously be our strong equals while also completely lacking any free will and responsibility as soon as they touch alcohol unlike men who are still 100% liable for our actions when drinking
      The odds of a bad ending are way higher than the odds of a good ending for men approaching women. The juice is not worth the squeeze.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Rare pepe looks like me as I stare at my bed late at night trying to make terms with the fact I'll mostly wake up to go through exactly the same the day after.
        Also based saying anon, it's not safe.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and get laid
        and here is the problem. The women aren't going about their daily lives, at work, at school nor at a club or bar with the intent of "getting laid". Yet when a guy approaches his intent is "getting laid". His idea of a win is having sex with a girl he doesn't know. He doesn't care if a girl is in a relationship or single. Heterosexual or homosexual. He sees a girl and thinks what can I say or do that gets her panties off soon as possible. What you guys call "game". Let me give you a recent example. I'm at the grocery to pick up a few things. I don't want to talk to anybody male or female. My hair is a mess, I have no makeup on and bundled up in a big coat. I park my cart step away trying to decide what I want. I see a guy park his cart near mine and he starts to pull things off the shelf and toss it into my cart forcing me to say wrong cart. Wrong move on my part cause here he comes. Not to apologize, not to retrieve his items in my cart but to chat me up. So I ask him to remove his items. Instead he grabs items in his cart like he is going to put them into mine all the while laughing like I appreciate his joke. I didn't so I retrieved the few items in MY CART that were mine and walked off and I got for my send off "c**t can't take a joke".

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What drugs are you on to be so delusional?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you're the one not living in reality just like cart guy

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Come on, tell us your suppliers while at it. Obviously not on some cheap bullshit over here.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            what in hell are you on? No, what fricked up world do you live? You're clearly having a conversation inside your own head

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is that what you tell yourself at night to go to sleep or is it the drugs doing the talking again?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Chads are truly a different race.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >trying to match her brother with women of equal salary and education
            Big mistake. We truly are clueless when it comes to the opposite sex.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >trying to match her brother with women of equal salary and education
            Big mistake. We truly are clueless when it comes to the opposite sex.

            No, just self-centrist. Most people give advices and guide others based on self-inspection rather than extrospection, of those who need the advice or guidance.
            >Do so and so because that's what worked for ME.
            >This is safe because here I am
            ETC

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is fake and written by a man.
            No real woman would ever admit "I tried doing something from the other side and it turns out men actually have it way worse than women". Most would refuse to ever try this in the first place. And of the few that would, when they realized they couldn't actually hold a conversation for shit they would go into mental gymnastics about how it's actually not her fault.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Pic

            Probably less to do with his attractiveness and more to do with hybristophilia. Society teaches women from a young age to associate the opposite sex with violence, aggression, and danger. Naturally this leads to some of them fetishizing those attributes.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I've always thought that meeks looks ugly as sin, 3/10 at absolute best. But the original point isn't so much about muh looks and rather an overall debunking that women care about personality (in the mass media-portrayed sense -- of course they do care, they only want violent thugs!)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they only care about status

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If that were true they wouldn't go out with jamal nor with gas station chads

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If it was Chad doing that there would be a clean up in Aisle 3 though

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            thats a lie. This guy was and he made me so mad I wanted to slap the chad overconfident smirk off him but I didn't want to get that close

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Did you tell the manager? Should have gotten him kicked out and banned.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Okay but to be clear here; if you thought he was hot this hypothetical wouldn't have bothered you in the slightest.
          you really can't take a joke, AND you're a c**t?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Recently I found out the researchers of this graph in pic related lied about "bar's/restaurant/ meetups. They didn't count people meeting off dating apps and going to bars or restaurants as online meetups. Think about that. You can practically eliminate that by over half and add it to online.

        How Phones Have Changed Dating (From the perspective of a Scandinavian male university student)

        >At my uni, the girls sit in the back row so they can secretly scroll on their phones. After the lecture, they rush out incredibly fast, so I don't get a chance to have small talk with them. No matter how fast I pack my bag, they're always faster. It's clear their needs for socializing have been met already. Where and how? On their phones of course. Outside I see girls walking on the street, just looking at their phones, not paying attention to where they're going. A teen girl rides her bike without hands, tapping on her phone. The same phenomenon continues in the grocery store. I watch a young woman as she completes all her shopping without averting her gaze from her phone. At this point I'm genuinely curious as to what's on the phone that's so fascinating. I have joined several hobby groups only to realize there are only other males and elderly there. Where are all the women during their free time? Tinder. At home I log on to my computer and try to talk to girls on the Internet, because they're so avoidant in real life. I encounter the "swipe wall" - I can only talk to the girl if the girl swipes right on my photo and I pass. This is when I realize the big picture. Women find their man online so they don't have to deal with real-life confrontations with possibly unwanted males. Online they have total control on who talks to them. Guys are passively forced into this dynamic, because the only alternative is being left out.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is the updated graph accounting for those who "met at bars" who actually met online first and then used a bar as their first meetup.
          Here is the study this data came from: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1908630116

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I was wondering why the frick people seem so obsessed with bars nowadays, there are so many bars full of young people popping up all over the place, do they get their clients from online meetup arrangements?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Considering that 90% of couples started as strangers. It's possible. I also think it's possible that guys are sick of online dating being a complete bust.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Considering that 90% of couples started as strangers.
            That's been a thing since we started collecting data before the internet. That was where the idea of the "friend zone" came from, that was you waited to long and now she has no interest in you as a date.

            What has changed is cold picks ups are now seen as creepy strange where as pre-internet that's all you had, and as such a guy that ask a girl out at the store/gym/class/bar/etc was seen as the norm because there was no other means. Social media has now weaponized that in several ways, such as being able to public shame the guy asking them out or finding the behavior questionable because they could find you online.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not nearly that bad, most guys are just too nervous because they don't want to be called creeps or be publicly humiliated when they're turned down.
            Anyone that's socially competent and reasonably attractive can walk up and talk to women the same way you always could, if they're interested or just open to conversation you can talk.
            There is a major disconnect with guys thinking they have to "pick up" girls, instead of just having natural conversations, i've seen that shit a thousand times.
            If you're not a 2/10 wud not bang, or socially moronic, you can cold approach women, but if you start trying to pick them up, they'll probably want you gone.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think we need to also add you need to be relatively young too, A teen or young 20s guy asking a girl out is in the wheel house of not creepy usually. A 30 something even asking another 30 something is more on the rage of desperate.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I disagree completely. I think most guys are just stuck in the "pickup artist" mindset where you're playing a game trying to be charming and bringing your game instead of casual conversation.
            Mastering casual conversation is the most important thing you can do if you want to get laid, removing the natural static and awkwardnes is a hundred times more effective than trying to be charming.
            If i don't know what to say i'll just ask stupid questions to get conversations started, same way you'd bait a thread on your favorite ebaumsworld subreddit; "Hey is it true women wont date a guy if he has an android phone?", "A girl told me i dress like a hobo, is it really that bad?".
            Just asking questions and letting them talk, and occationally picking a bone with what they say, and then letting them explain and argue without getting pushy about it is the way to go. Women will literally talk about their fresh hot opinions all day long, it's so easy to talk to them.
            For all my problems with women, conversation and approaching them is the easiest because i know how to smalltalk, and basically just ask questions and let them ramble.

            sorry for the tl;dr i know it's shit if your confidence is low and you 're facing a group of feral roastoids

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ever met said feral roastoids?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, i'm no Don Juan but i am good at smalltalk with women. I still get told to frick off from time to time, however most women are not that forward and will humor you for long enough that you can gauge if they're about to make Chad put you in a dumpster.

            The issue is what women view as attractive is not common in men, we can't all be 6ft with good jaw lines.

            I'm neither, i'm somewhere between 4-5(and 5'9), a low tier normalgay in terms of looks. I haven't had a lot of luck with relationships, but i do manage to get laid from time to time, and downgrade the hostility from women to something more agreeable so i can join social groups and exist somewhat comfortably with new people. I'm by no means popular though.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You seem like a decent guy anon. But your normie advice isn't gonna do much to help anyone here.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not trying to lifeguru you guys, i just want to make the point that most guys are terrible at talking to women, and the less experience they have the more awkward it becomes because of all the imagined expectations.
            It's not just for the purpose of romantic relationships, if women don't like you then other men will join in with them to exclude you from social functions/job opportunities.

            To survive the normalgay, you have to become the normalgay.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >most guys are terrible at talking to women
            Because most women are hard to talk to. Unless you're really good looking, they're very condescending and passive aggressive. I'm tired of people framing this as just an issue with guys. It shouldn't take years of practice just to be able to stay on a woman's good side as an average guy. People need to stop blaming men for everything

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not framing it as an issue with just guys, women are demons. Correctly assigning blame doesn't change anything, you still have to eat shit.
            You have to learn to ignore their bullshit unless you have enough social standing to call them out on it, and then just get along with the ones that aren't rabid.
            It doesn't take years of practice, most women are only hostile to you because they don't want you to think you have a chance. If you're not trying to pick them up and act casual around them it's far less of an issue. There are still rabid demon c**ts though, just avoid them the best you can, chances are other women hate them too.

            Whether you like it or not, unless you've fully embraced the hikkineet lifestyle you'll have to deal with women. And it's not as hard as you make it out to be.
            They will probably still look for reasons to frick with you, normalgays will never pass up a chance to throw you under the bus if you're a sub5(or equivalent in their eyes)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Correctly assigning blame doesn't change anything
            It does. Correct credit assignment is the only way to move forward as an individual or a group. If men have done everything they can in that regard the optimal move is then mgtow shit, but if they haven't then it's self-improoooovement shit. The fact is every second of self-improooovement in hopes of women is an immense waste of time and effort, and staying deluded about it does extreme harm, especially due to hope-despair dynamics.

            This is why correct credit assignment is extremely important.

            >most women are only hostile to you because they don't want you to think you have a chance
            >think
            Women only want chad, period. Nobody else has even the slightest chance with women.

            > If you're not trying to pick them up and act casual around them it's far less of an issue
            Please go be 12 somewhere else.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Correct credit assignment
            What i meant was that whether or not we blame men or women, you'll still have to deal with womens shit. Nothing more.
            >Women only want chad, period. Nobody else has even the slightest chance with women.
            Are you joking? Non-chads are out there getting laid all the time, Brad is probably more likely to be happily married than Chad is.
            Have you seen the people out there fricking and having kids? It's like a zoo.
            >Please go be 12 somewhere else.
            Your complete lack of nuance is probably why you have trouble socializing, your looks would be secondary or tertiary. Are you autistic? Genuine question.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I see I hit the nail on the head.
            This is an 18+ site, child.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I see I hit the nail on the head.
            I'm 38 lil man. I'm going to take the quotation literally and assume your lack of social skills are the result of an actual nail in your frontal lobe.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are 12 and not even trying to hide it lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What is that image from it looks sick

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Your complete lack of nuance is probably why you have trouble

            Not that anon, but you're a fricking idiot and it's really galling that you're invoking "nuance" (the last refuge of the gay homosexual who is completely wrong) in this case.

            >most women are only hostile to you because they don't want you to think you have a chance. If you're not trying to pick them up and act casual around them it's far less of an issue.

            These two clauses do not go together, as anyone who has dealt with women for five minutes would know. It's right at the point of casual interaction that women are MOST hostile, when they want to make sure you know you have no chance. They aren't sitting there waiting to see if you actually hit on them, because from their perspective once you do that it's too late to avoid the unpleasant aspects of the interaction. The BEST time, from their perspective, to be as hostile as possible is right up front, to get the message across immediately and "avoid misunderstandings".

            This is precisely why low-status men experience hostility as the default state, even from women in whom they have no interest. And NO, you can't trick them into thinking you're "just being casual", because they simply don't care. They will be hostile even if you really are just being casual, because it's simply easier for them to be hostile first and ask questions later.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Correctly assigning blame doesn't change anything
            I disagree. If it's been done with men and their problematic bullshit, it can be done with women and their problematic bullshit. It'll be harder, sure, since women have more tools to avoid accountability, but I still think it's possible. If women are called out on their bullshit enough, they'll stop
            >You have to learn to ignore their bullshit
            Frick that. Being passive aggressive back at them is a lot better. Give them a taste of their own medicine. Idgaf if her or her yesman friends think I'm an incel or whatever
            >It doesn't take years of practice, most women are only hostile to you because they don't want you to think you have a chance
            It takes years of practice to walk the fine line of being seen as both "safe" and "attractive"
            >it's not as hard as you make it out to be
            >They will probably still look for reasons to frick with you, normalgays will never pass up a chance to throw you under the bus if you're a sub5(or equivalent in their eyes)
            Sounds like it is as hard as i make it out to be lol

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If it's been done with men and their problematic bullshit, it can be done with women and their problematic bullshit.
            Sure, but as someone who browses NSFFW what do you think the reaction from the normalgays will be if you try? I think you should leave that sort of thing to men higher up in the hierarchy or you're just making yourself a target.
            >Being passive aggressive back at them is a lot better.
            I mean that would feel better, but you'd have to deal with the consequences of that. In social groups or at work that can be devastating for a low ranking male. It's better to get along or avoid trouble, and just vent here. At least in my experience, if i pick a fight i just draw too much negative attention. You just end up getting IRL downvoted.
            >It takes years of practice to walk the fine line of being seen as both "safe" and "attractive"
            I don't think so, at least it didn't for me. All it took was giving up on trying and realizing i could just co-exist with women and talk to them about random shit and break down a lot of the hostility that way. Most women still regard me as unattractive, but i can socialize far more easily after developing confidence in socializing with women in a non-romantic setting, which meant i suddenly had romantic options.
            >Sounds like it is as hard as i make it out to be lol
            I mean, life sucks as a sub5. They'll never stop. All i'm making a case for is learning to adapt where most robots just give up and REE. Most women are a lot easier to talk to than they get credit for. However they WILL bombard you with stupid shit like fad diets and their vision board garbage.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >what do you think the reaction from the normalgays will be if you try?
            Cognitive dissonance. Everyone gets mad when they get told/shown they're wrong, it's human nature. But the idea will still get planted in their heads. And there's a nonzero chance that they'll think about it later, in a different state of mind, and react differently. Nobody changes their mind overnight, which gives a lot of people the impression that discussions/debates are ineffective, but they're not
            >I think you should leave that sort of thing to men higher up in the hierarchy or you're just making yourself a target
            You need to stop obsessing over this hierarchy shit so much mate. If you stop caring what people think of you, men or women, you'll be more free and happy
            >All it took was giving up on trying and realizing i could just co-exist with women and talk to them about random shit and break down a lot of the hostility that way
            How long did it take you to have that revelation?
            >Most women are a lot easier to talk to than they get credit for. However they WILL bombard you with stupid shit like fad diets and their vision board garbage
            You might find it easy to be bombarded with stupid shit and just tolerate it but i and most guys don't

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the idea will still get planted in their heads.
            I wont deny you can change peoples minds, i will just urge you to be careful lest you find yourself beset by angry normalgays.
            >You need to stop obsessing over this hierarchy shit
            I'm not obsessing over it, your position in the hierarchy generally decides how well you can influence people. Even if you lay down a natural 20 on your speech check Stacy can still pull rank and people will generally side with her over you. As a low status man, you're not going to have a lot of success in the public arena, is all i'm saying.
            You can choose to try anyway, maybe you're better at convincing people than i am, or maybe you're just more driven to try(i have low expectations), however i prefer to pick my battles based on how much they can backfire socially because of previous negative experiences.
            >How long did it take you to have that revelation?
            Quite a while honestly, i was busy trying to put on a show because i was ashamed and awkward in public. I think a lot of guys experience something similar, and as a result become avoidant or hyper-defensive in social situations with women.
            >You might find it easy to be bombarded with stupid shit and just tolerate it but i and most guys don't
            I'm an actual sub5, so women will ROUTINELY subject me to their neurotic fantasies and fads like i'm one of their girlfriends. If you read about me on the news, that's likely what drove me to it.

            Thanks for the replies, i have to go outside for a while so i might not be back to read your reply before the thread 404's

            You are 12 and not even trying to hide it lmao

            You got me, see you in the cowadoody lobby broski

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm an actual sub5, so women will ROUTINELY subject me to their neurotic fantasies and fads like i'm one of their girlfriends. If you read about me on the news, that's likely what drove me to it
            Why are you spending time with people who you clearly don't enjoy the company of?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Work, hobbies, general socializing. And i still hope that i'll find someone, even if the odds are against me.

            I'm out, later dude.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Work, hobbies, general socializing
            None of this shit is worth it if someone makes you feel like shit when you interact with them. I hope you'll learn how to stand up for yourself one day. See you around, anon

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Relax bro women don't have any expectations
            >That's why you're so terrible at talking to them you stupid loser!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're oversimplifying and misrepresenting what i said. If you have that much trouble socializing in a non-romantic setting you have other problems than your looks.
            If you can muster socializing with women in a non-romantic setting, you will have a much higher potential for finding some kind of intimacy, that's all i'm saying here buddy. If you've given up hope, and all you have to explain it is a strict interpretation of the blackpill, then i won't bother changing your mind, you probably have your reasons.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The issue is what women view as attractive is not common in men, we can't all be 6ft with good jaw lines.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >why the frick people seem so obsessed with bars nowadays
            >nowadays

            Bar life was massive for decades on decades and was a major place a lot of people went to hook up and shit, wasn't until 2012(ish) that it took a massive dive and is only starting to come back to life but it is still a ghost of it's former self.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I dont believe that 2010 online number being 40%

            How did normies meet online in 2010?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There were lot's of online social services and dating sites. I think.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            okcupid, match, plentyoffish, and god knows how many others. any romantic comedy of the era will involve the leading lady sitting down at her work computer to read all the eligible guys who medsaged her

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I thought so but I never used them myself. I know something happened or existed but I have trouble placing it in a timeline to identify it in relation to other things. Most of my memories are like that, just increasingly vague recollections in an obscure void.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i had that problem tol but journalling helped me out a ton with that. course if you don't mind or think its gay tis no big deal

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks for the tip, might give it a go. I should be more worried about it as I plan to work as an accountant some day.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its not that women don't want guys to approach them, because unless they're a lesbian they definitely do, its just that alot of girls are self centered c**ts who only want chads but there are exceptions to the rule. I've met a lot of really nice girls out at bars in my town & other social events/places. Just don't be weird and be nice and you'll literally do fine.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Talking to a woman without her consent is rape.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just don't want to approach them. I'm sick of hearing their dumb opinions.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Feminazi courts and simps

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there's no incentive

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because women just want to play games with many men.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would men approach women?
    What were their reasons for doing so in the past? Do those reasons still apply?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why would men approach women?
      Fricking
      >What were their reasons for doing so in the past?
      Fricking
      >Do those reasons still apply?
      Fricking duh

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She's not going to frick you, robro.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Currently pondering whether I should accept or reject this argument. Be right back.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    3dpd are becoming obsolete and just can't compete

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      3D b***hes are obsolete
      Against big tiddy waifus they cannot compete
      Tsundere, yandere, kuudere, even moe
      These thots so ugly make a homie wanna go gay
      The wall shall remain the undefeated champion
      Earned my CDL, gonna send them out like Truck-kun
      Maybe in another world they'll catch a guy's attention
      Until her body count is mentioned

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You're my God damn hero, Garber.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there's no decent women to approach, they're all hiding or in relationships with losers
    girls think i have an endless line of other girls to call on because of how i look, they think i just want to use them

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    One of the reasons is that if you approach a woman and she doesn't like you, it doesn't end there, she will talk shit about you and might even get a bouncer or some guys to beat you up.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Which bar? Name the time and place. I'm calling cap.
    I've been going to bars for months because I'm single and get 0 matches online. Allow me to rant about the average bar anywhere where there isn't a college or resort nearby.
    First let's talk about demographics. At a typical bar it's nearly always 80% men, 15% taken women and 5% overweight single women. I've met more prostitutes than single women.
    I'm 5'9" and every single woman who isn't fat has found ways to reject me. I've been given fake numbers, tricked into buying drinks, ghosted... They are waiting for 6'2" Chad, not 5'9" me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sure bud, the reason you can't get pussy is because you have average height, sure. JFL

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        average in manletstan maybe

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, every time I leave my house there are 6'3 chads walking around, it's scares me

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The average around me is probably 6'0" for white men. Asian and Mexicans are short AF.
            I run a small landscaping business. I've hired maybe 1 white guy shorter than me ever.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah yeah, the average must be 6 foot, keep coping

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >only apostrophe is in "Y'all" (autocorrect)
    >it's the shitty iPhone apostrophe that doesn't work on NSFFW
    Screencapping your own reddit posts anon? Really?

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because last time I did, I lost 40 bucks, a whole Sunday, and my professional network. All without losing my virginity.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People complain about young men being autistic or socially awkward but the reality is that young women are self centered and unpleasant.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >OP posts unsubstantiated anecdotes as evidence
    >A bunch of anecdotal replies
    Just admit this is a troll thread and if these stupid c**ts want a man they have to start being proactive.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why dont they approach if they are so bored, instead of b***hing about it online?

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the real question is
    >Why would men approach women?

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The honest truth is that men and women don't need each other anymore. They're convenient, sure, but not essential for a full life. Relationships and love are just privileges enjoyed by a select few.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't women approach instead?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wht are moids so entitled? Man up and approach women.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you are so desperate for someone to frick you then why can't you approach?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          certified blaine post

          That's sexist.

          I will not approach. Eat shit, moron.

          So moids whine about muh traditional masculinity but wont go up and talk to a girl.
          Y'all are fricking pussies.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I have and it doesn't work. Only bad things come from talking to girls

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >incel delusions
            Coward

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Stupid braindead b***h. have a nice day you worthless piece of shit. You are nothing and the world is better off without you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ewwww seething incel creep go away

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No one here likes toxic masculinity.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why would I? It's way more fun to hangout with friends and enjoy my hobbies. Modern women aren't deserving of traditional masculinity.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >ITS YOUR JOB AS A MAN TO APPROACH MUH TRADITIONAL MASCULINITY
            You are not a trad woman. What right do you have to demand a traditional man?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Feminist until she is inconvenienced

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not whining about it. That's you whining about it
            Give me one good reason why I should be bothered making a fool of myself infront of snotty b***hy women who are not interested in my in the first place? They only want to be approached for the sake of their own inflatted ego. What about my fricking ego? It practically doesn't exist. I don't see anyone giving a shit about my self esteem. Especially when I did reach out and got treated like i'm some dirty mutt dog. You ever think about that? No of course not, women only think about themselves

            If a man approaches you, reject them with a bit of manners you c**t

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >talk to girl
            >get me-too'd because you were 5'11 in her presence
            No thanks, foid. Go jump in front of a van, it's what your kind deserves.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Even if I cared enough about women to approach them (I dont) I would never approach a stupid b***h like you. I know you think you can hide your ugly personality irl but I would be able to sense it from a mile away.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        certified blaine post

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's sexist.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I will not approach. Eat shit, moron.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Based, ignoring the vegana israelite is the only sane way.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't want to get in trouble

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >why don't men put in any effort anymore
        there's no point in putting effort in because realistically there's no chance of an outcome good enough to be worth it
        >what do you mean you want good things to happen to you? quit acting so entitled, you don't deserve to be happy
        yeah

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because they don't have to. Women get to forever be the choosers that b***h and complain. While men have to actively go after women to get in a relationship

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they're just going to say no if I approach so why should I bother in the first place

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Those women should work on their personalities.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i just give up on women. or trying anything. i can't.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When you know you're not wanted by women and every time you tried anything, you either got the run-around, played with or flat out laughed at and rejected, it doesn't make sense to continously approach women and hit your head against the wall trying to get a date. Men font have infinite emotional stamina regardless of what the media says. Eventually that shit will break you down. It's less stressful to ignore women completely if you're not already chad. There is just no point in approaching women in 2024. Unless you're just a masochist and do it as a form of self-harm.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because i have a small penis so it is ultimately pointless

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even if i'm still lonely/horny, i just can't put up with women anymore. I look at them and i just see the stupid shit they're about to say about their vision board, buzzfeed politics or some other bullshit.
    I can't look at them without thinking about how many guys have used them as their personal cumsock before i get there, how she has diseases and a ton of mental baggage from previous dudes using and abusing her.
    I just wanted a nice girl, not a worn out nihilistic materialist disease ridden pig prostitute.
    They can't be wives, they can barely even function as short term girlfriends. What's the point in seeking them out in the wild when you can just get one online if you cave to your dicks demands?

    Women are trash, and terrible company.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll speak of myself why I stopped not only approaching women but also even getting into their vicinity.
    >Social interaction stimulate serotonergic centers
    >Serotonin accompanied by dopamine causes attentiveness and attraction
    >Stimulation of serotonergic centers without presence of high levels of dopamine causes withdrawal and disgust.
    >Dopamine is released at a glimpse of someone you find attractive
    I realized that the interpretation of my supposed interaction is determined even before it's attempted, thus futile.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >neurochemistrypill not gaining any online traction...
      As always of course...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >boo hoo my blackpill is that I could give a woman a candy bar or trinket when we first meet so that she gets a dopamine boost and be completely fine
        are you moronic

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Perfect Dunning-Kruger moment
          Come back when you learn associations, autist.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >associations
            then give her a small chocolate every time you meet?
            Dunning-Kruger is not when someone replies to you on a public forum redditoid

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >then give her a small chocolate every time you meet?
            >Hits it with yet another perfect representation of Dunning-Kruger effect
            Associations boils down to the object of admiration, anon, the chocolate bar in your example...Even with so,
            Within the first six microseconds, she'd already shield in disgust that your little stupid gift won't even matter.
            You're truly a hopeless case of autism, anon, too much that it's rather cute in all honesty.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >why is nobody talking about my what I want :'(
            >NOOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS WHAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS UNLESS YOU DO IT THE EXACT RIGHT WAY
            ok, you can keep your rick and morty chemicals pill to yourself then

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks for the entertainment

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've travelled a bit, I have been to bars, clubs, concerts, festivals and still never approached a woman. At this point I don't think I have ever will. Doesn't matter how drunk or drugged I am, I can't do it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's fricked man, how old are you?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I am 30 years old. Why is it fricked?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you need to get your T levels checked

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you need to keep chasing women goy, keep pursuing them and buying things to impress them and throwing money at them goy, here take these drugs

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't want to be put in prison for sexual harrassment

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was at the grocery store the other day and noticed a cute girl while shopping
    When it was my turn to check out, she ended up standing like 15 ft away, facing me, holding her phone but glancing at me every few seconds. It was obvious she was trying to send a signal.
    I tried not to look at her, felt my stress levels go up, and when I checked out I just left while continuing to ignore her.
    I hate these dumb mind games women play, as if standing in my sight and glancing at me is going to be enough to walk up to you, put my neck on the line and start a conversation... especially after everything I hear online about how women "don't want to be approached".

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She might have been recording you

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She could have been preemptively recording you. Or yeah she's pulling that dumb thing women do where they keep glancing and trying to make eye contact. They'll swear it's them trying to flirt but they're just cowards.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >preemptively recording you
        That's what I guess they're doing, and depending on my mood,
        I would either try to move off cam's focus or entirely out of wherever I am.
        If their motive was the latter of your statements, it's their own loss.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's there even to say? I don't fricking get it.
      "Hey you're getting something to eat. Cool. I'm getting something to eat too. I like this particular brand of thing to eat. Mmm, digestion."

      Sounds autistic but my point is there's nothing really left to learn or experience in life. We basically know everything, even social interaction is broken down to a science. Fricking pointless.
      Yeah let me put my genitals in yours after a courting period. Wonderful.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Chad does not require a courting period

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"Hey you're getting something to eat. Cool. I'm getting something to eat too. I like this particular brand of thing to eat. Mmm, digestion."
        Delightfully snarky, anon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was probably for a tiktok, anon. You avoided a trap. Well done

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because men realized that true living is fishing, enjoying a nice beer with the boys, enjoying the outdoors, and talking about dumb stuff WITHOUT women. women are a drain in a social situation. you cannot trust women.

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Still live with my parents. Don't know how to drive. No job, no money. Can't treat anyone to anything. Realistically, I probably wouldn't be compatible with the women who'd berate me at every opportunity for being born male, so my endgoal would be to better my flaws for those who might like me.

    And that means beeing myself but with a decent salary and a better diet.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i must be a woman cause people don't approach me

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Life as a zoomer is bliss my friends. We get to experience the vanguard of modern and postmodern societal development. And who knows what the future has in store for us?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >And who knows what the future has in store for us?
      Nothing, probably. Or garbage, pick one

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Life as a 15-25 year old is bliss my friends.

      FTFY. Also it was far better to be in that age range about 20 years ago, now you zoomers are completely and utterly fricked though.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So damn based, anon.
        It's over for zoomers.
        >I'm a single year older than zoomers.
        So I saw both worlds.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not worth the effort.

    The average woman is fat, ugly and promiscuous. To top it off, she usually boring and a b***h.
    The modern average woman doesn't provoke me a desire to take risks for her, to pursue her and entertain her.

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cant be arsed. easier and less emotionally taxing to just touch wiener

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >touch wiener
      i should clarify. my wiener. But in any case ive received way more attention from homosexuals than i ever have from womons

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most guys have picked up that woman claim harassment unless it's an attractive guy. Most guys don't fit womens definition of attractive.

    Womwn don't miss companionship or date opportunities, they've always had those. They miss the feeling of being desired and the power they get from rejection

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Most guys don't fit womens definition of attractive.
      Also there is the comical fact that even if the guy IS really attractive he wouldn't know or assess it because he got the message that he shouldn't approach, basically isolating themselves from the other sex.
      So it is in fact a shoot in the foot in the form of politics and activism.

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they can rot.

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there is no benefit in this day an age to get involved with a woman romantically or sexually you have a higher chance of being ruined getting involved with a woman than you do being a hermit and wacking off

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because women are chad only. Yes, even the fatties and single moms with shit-colored kids.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Uncatty valley

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The men sensed that those women had bad personalities.

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't stop if I never even started.

    Checkmate, you gamerphobic chad-fricking prostitutes!

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    X approaches a woman and says hi

    >Sub 5
    HELP POLICE IM BEING SEXUALLY ASSAULTED!
    >5
    HELP POLICE IM BEING SEXUALLY ASSAULTED!
    >6
    He being a creep!
    >7
    Hi
    >8
    OMG HI BTW *INSERT SHITTY SMALL TALK HERE*
    >9
    WOW HI NO HEY I MEAN HEYA OH GOD KILL ME

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You seem insecure. Also why should we accept incel creeps instead of well adjusted, good men?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The guy is literally saying hi, what the frick is wrong with roasties?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They are woman
          Next Question

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like watching those tiktoks of women talking how they got asked out at a grocery store and just how giddy and full of happiness they are, just how flattered they feel because they're desired. They still reject the guy though.

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would I approach women when I already know they want nothing to do with me. Why put myself through that embarrassment and humiliation? So that 1/10,000 maybe says ok to a shitty coffee date?

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Approaching women irl is the only way I feel comfortable doing it. Texting is always a disaster. Anyway, they always reject me and I feel horrible so I stopped doing it.

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People on NSFFW love to bash plebbit and tell everyone whose post they don't like to go back there, yet these plebbit posts are extremely common on NSFFW somehow.

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why have men stopped approaching women?
    I completely stopped going outside for anything other than work but I still use two discord groups for games, if I count both groups this is slightly above a dozen men, the only one with a girlfriend met her through tinder, he's now unable to pursue his life goals because she refuses to leave her home or change her professional outlooks, while the guy has to change his profession and settle down (he immigrated temporarily) with no compromises on her end. Some other dude had a girlfriend but she broke up with him to "experience new things", she still wanted to be friends to keep the guy around though! Everyone else seems to not even try anymore, some because of fear/reluctance with commitment, others because they threw in the towel after the last time they got dumped, usually because their girlfriends' didn't want to compromise on anything in the slightest, but most are just content, they either are fine with their lives as is and don't want to change that over a woman or they have life plans/projects that don't include women at all. Personally I just don't see the benefit in having a girlfriend, the positive of getting to have sex doesn't outweigh anything else that having a girlfriend entails. And to be honest, at this point I have fully accepted the loneliness, I enjoy my own company, I love my hobbies, I get enough sexual satisfaction from cranking my hog to plump anime with nice big areolae, the only thing that could make my life better is having enough money to not have to work so much per day, approaching a woman would be counter productive with that in mind.

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cause most women are to shy and only answer in yes or no. Why are you like this, women?
    Dont tell its cause of rape, i aint your bf yet.

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good, they did this to themselves and earned their place. Since they want to be equal as men, they should try approaching us now. Why are they so scared? You're equal to men now. Break the boundaries, sisters!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      women do approach men though

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Where? In zimbabwe?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Casual dating in Zimbabwe probably involves torture and murder

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe they do, with Chad exclusively.

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it gets literally zero results? It's not rocker surgery.

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Same reason why don't put your hand over a flame.

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i don't like like acting a fool, which always happens

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same
      Heres my only attempt last year not even joking
      >put here delivering oysters to gas stations and other stores (i used to work in an oyster farm)
      >see a girl that i find attractive
      >go get some oysters in the truck as a gift to her
      >walk up to her
      >trip
      >fall
      >once i stand up manage to blurt out " here take my oysters ,they are the freshest and tastiest we have"
      >explain to her in details about how i harvested those oysters for a solid 10 min
      >realize what i did
      >run back to my truck and leave
      Never saw her ever again.
      I dont even live in the same country anymore

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be woman
    >desire man
    >stand there and wait for a man to magically spawn
    This is fine.

    >be man
    >desire woman
    >stand there and wait for a woman to magically spawn
    This is not fine.

    Normalgays will literally take the dumbest arbitrary social conventions for granted and pretend that doing anything different is weird and icky.

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Let's keep it real OP

    Women of today are schizophrenia dumpster fires.

    The only men that are pursuing are blue pill chumps, simps and chads. If a man have any understanding of women and their chaotic nature they will simply move on and not deal with them

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Women of today are schizophrenia dumpster fires.
      Based and hardcoretruthpilled

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >bored like they're waiting for men to approach

    why should I assume that if a girl looks bored it's because she wants guys to try to frick her?

    I think that redditgay might just be socially inept

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The straights don't really know what they want, do they?

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    well to start, they asked for it.
    but everything else just makes things worse
    >appearances
    thanks to the internet, the vast majority of women have overinflated egos and think they look better than they actually are. a 7 thinks she's a 9 and will ignore everyone below an 8.
    this means that men have to go for women below their appearance tier.
    which WOULD be fine for those just going for true love, but...
    >personality
    thanks to the modern age of acceptance, most women have shit tier personalities and if you dare speak out about it, you're an incel
    >mental stability
    most women are insane one way or another, not to mention how their political views are hardcore leftist.
    >accountability
    none. anything that can happen will be your fault and YOU better be the one to fix it.
    >loyalty
    minimal, even if you go all the way.
    find a mentally stable girl with a good personality, date her for a few years, marry her, give her everything she wants, and there's still a "significant enough to be a concern" chance that she'll cheat behind your back because she was "bored" or "thought she could do better"
    and when she's caught she'll try to make herself the victim.
    have a child and she wants a divorce? no other details matter, unless you have hard proof that the child will be significantly worse off with her you get weekends at best and have to pay out the ass for child support.
    >potential to improve or ruin your life
    the potential to improve it is there...
    but all women have the power to ruin your life just by saying "HE RAPED ME!".
    and with the general personality of most women, there is a very high chance that she'll pull it out of her ass just because she's jealous or spiteful.

    when you actually take a step back and look at the big picture, there is zero incentive for a man to actually WANT to go for women. the chance of finding a good woman that wont ruin everything is minimal.
    so they asked, and men just said "alright" cause there's not really a reason to try.

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I did and got rejected

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Oh no, I got rejected once
      >mah life is ovah

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Depending on the circumstances and how persistent she is, it actually could be. The moment you get rejected, it is as if your entire career is invalidated. All that time invested, that experience, the degrees, certs, awards, etc. All gone in the blink of an eye. All you will ever be known for is the humiliating rejection. Of course you can jump ship, but how are you going to explain those lost years without bringing up the event?

        It's been like this for ~10 years now, starting in the elite white collar circles then trickling down to everyone else. And before you call me LE INKWELL, you can correctly blame your surpreme mentlegen's little spergout in 2014 and the 2016 era culture wars for really accelerating the danger, making it go from something merely embarrassing to marking you as a potential terroristic threat when people think they're gonna die, they do funny things, and they're gonna choose themselves every single time at your expense. Even back then, if you asked out a classmate and got rejected, you'd been expected to drop out of the major, if not the school, and they'd still shit on you for dropping out because of a girl and being poor and uneducated. Nowadays, you'd be shat on for not dropping out and making her feel """uncomfortable""", but if you did, they'd still shit on you for dropping out because of a girl and being poor and uneducated.

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they are incapable of consent. im not a rapist.

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why have men stopped approaching women?
    Because they got fat.

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I DIDN'T HAD A MALE FIGURE ALRIGHT!?
    No dad to protect me when mommy, aunty or worse grandmommy were furipus at me for being man, girls beating me up at school and being unable to flirt or know how the actual FRICK women think

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nah it seems like you understand how women think perfectly well, just use your knowledge.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They lack mercy?

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do women believe that they are ENTITLED to being approached? That's the way rapists think, "I am literally owed a man's body and time."

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are modern people so socially moronic?
    Romantically/sexually successful men have never just approached strange women out of thin air.
    The way courtship works is the woman signals her intent non-verbally, then the man makes the verbal introduction. It is in fact the woman who makes the first move, and it has always been this way.
    This idea that men are supposed to go around talking to women who show no signs of interest comes from Hollywood, it is not based on any reality past or present.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the woman signals her intent non-verbally
      this is where most men fail at reading

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong. Women haven't signaled anyone but the top 0.002% of men for decades now.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You have never been signaled.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Stop projecting.
          I have gotten all sorts of signals from women, which is why I'm aware that most women will consider standing next to you for 15 seconds and making two glances in your direction is "a signal" and assume a man isn't interested if he didn't act right away.
          Eye contact, smile, starting conversations, etc, is not common for majority of women to do because it requires taking a risk

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >is in fact the woman who makes the first move, and it has always been this way.
      HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
      Wait, you're serious? Let me laugh harder
      HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHSHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The way courtship works is the woman signals her intent non-verbally
      bruh do you even know where the frick you are.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My grandfather asked my grandmother out dancing every Friday for months before she said yes.
      These days you'd end up viral on tiktok being called a creep if you tried that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It is in fact the woman who makes the first move,
      You literally described the opposite.

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The tension between genders was never meant to be this bad, every time I talk to a Woman in a none work environment the assumption is always that I want something from them, don't even pretend it's not true either

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, that is why I just ignore women. You can't talk to them at all. It was even like that back in school for me which was a while ago
      >lost ruler
      >can't find it
      >b***h beside me collects rulers, i'll ask her
      >she just looks at me like I shat myself or sometihng
      >ok lets not ever talk to her again
      And that is how I have been conditioned. I eventually learned to just not talk to girls at all because I didn't want to bother them

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Their logic is we are constantly trying to find a way to frick them. Regardless of weather we are or not being condescending when someone's simply trying to talk to you is insanely annoying.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not only is it annoying but it takes a toll on your self esteem when you are treated like some sort of perverted sexpest creep. I don't know about women's experience, maybe they are always approached by men like that and assume by default every man is like that but it's hard to have sympathy when such vitrol is personally directed at you. It's not my problem

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I have never seen a woman be approached by anyone, ever. This not only prove that they are necessarily delusional, but also that any such approach must happen in places decent men do not go, thus fully self-inflicted.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I have never seen a woman be approached by anyone, ever.
            I used to see it all the time growing up in the 90s/00s
            It was fricking cringe too when the dude would be pestering an obviously uninterested girl pumping gas and minding her own business
            I have never approached girls because all I ever saw was dudes being cringe like that

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It definitely happens, but to the extent they tend to speak of? Absolutely not. Pretty sure every girl has a story of being "harassed" that they use as an excuse to take out their resentment on everyone else (men specifically but other Women on occasion)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It definitely happens, but to the extent they tend to speak of? Absolutely not. Pretty sure every girl has a story of being "harassed" that they use as an excuse to take out their resentment on everyone else (men specifically but other Women on occasion)

            What happens is girls tell the other girls this one time a guy was being a creep. Then read the articles from the other girls about that one time she had a creep.

            Then every Man below 7/10 is a creep.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Their logic is we are constantly trying to find a way to frick them.
          I mean, that's ultimately the goal. I think the bigger issue is that they all frick the same chads, then blame average dudes for the behavior of chad.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't talk to every Woman with the intent to frick or even get to know them, regardless their first thought will always be you're trying to frick even when you aren't

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Regardless of weather we are or not being condescending when someone's simply trying to talk to you is insanely annoying
          Nail on the head. They do everything in their power to be as unlikeable as possible and then act shocked when guys only want sex out of them

          IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE A SEX OBJECT, THEN STOP BEING AN EMOTIONAL VAMPIRE, YOU DUMB BROADS

  81. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't speak for all men, but for me personally it's because I hate women. I can't imagine any reason I would ever willingly try to talk to them just in the hopes that I could convince them to let me talk to them even more at some other time and place except this time I'm buying them a bunch of stuff.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am the same. Getting a foid is like working an annoying second job, except you also lose money. Only to sometimes have access to her holes, but as she ages she will increasingly "have headaches" when you want sex.

      She could also leave you for someone better at any time, turning all of your work into a waste of energy and money.

      I'd rather just touch myself. The few benefits of having a gf come at an insane sacrifice that I'm unwilling to make.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        my wife makes more than me and wants to bone all the time. NSFFW people wd consider her very ugly and she even has flaws as a human being too. but i can live w that

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ofcourse you do, women get their way just being trash.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I had an ugly gf and it's simply not a good experience at all. Even if I got to frick her every day, it's not fun to have to imagine other women to get an erection.

          Good for you if you can lower your standards and not care, but I can't. I'm a 6'2, well-paid 20something. I am not settling for women I'm not sexually attracted to anymore. As with everything else, getting the shitty version of a product/experience is not worth it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >As with everything else, getting the shitty version of a product/experience is not worth it
            >human beings are experiences and or products and in general commodities for me to consume. same as a burger or a vacation

            and people here call other people brainwashed

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >>As with everything else, getting the shitty version of a product/experience is not worth it
            beings are experiences and or products and in general commodities for me to consume. same as a burger or a vacation

            I think that other anon made a pretty persuasive case that this is in fact true, with his example. While they may be other things ALSO, from the perspective of any conscious other, human beings are absolutely an experience", that you can enjoy or not enjoy.

            The stubborn insistence that we have to pretend that they aren't because GASP! COMMODIFICATION! is incredibly tiresome and abysmally pseudointellectual.

            >Person A walks up to you and hits you in the face with a brick
            >Person B walks up to you and hands you a sandwich
            >Don't you DARE prefer Person B over Person A, as if people were PRODUCTS!!!!

            Spare me.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ...do you know "commodity" in the economic sense means lol. hint, it isn't equivalent to or a synonym for "item that you can enjoy or not enjoy", it's a synonym for "item that you trade for another item of equal or greater value". you commodify your own height, abs, good job, because that's the only way you can commensurate its value with someone else's pair of breasts and pretty face, ie heterogenous objects. Deciding you personally like something more than something else, is insufficient to assign it a commodified value, measurably less greater or equivalent to some other physically different object. it's a heuristic you cooked up. (well, millions of people cooked it up before you really, and you took their precooked heuristic, but that doesn't make a difference). it's a great heuristic when trading pork bellies for basedbeans on the futures exchange.... but what use is that heuristic to you?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He's dealing with the buzzword practical definition you autistic pendant. Like you really think all those zoomerkiddies berating each other with that homosexual therapyspeak are actually using the terms right?
            Here's an example of a concept from developmental psychology that tiktok self-dxers get wrong all the fricking time: https://www.getinflow.io/post/object-permanence-constancy-adhd-symptom

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            then he is using the wrong argument and addressing someone who isn't in the room. and sometimes pedantry is the only way you can figure stuff out properly

            there's nothing wrong or irreligious with commodifying things by the way

            but if it's not helping you achieve anything

            why do it?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He's not even debating actually """commodifying"""anything, just b***hing about the buzzword people use to shame each other for preferring not to be abused. Your pedantry is utterly useless like the rest of your autism.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            he was orginally b***hing about having to put up with an ugly girlfriend who doesn't get his dick hard. is it a good idea to treat that particular situation as if anyone's abusing anyone

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >then he is using the wrong argument and addressing someone who isn't in the room

            I was addressing this anon:

            >As with everything else, getting the shitty version of a product/experience is not worth it
            >human beings are experiences and or products and in general commodities for me to consume. same as a burger or a vacation

            and people here call other people brainwashed

            >human beings are experiences and or products and in general commodities for me to consume

            And I was purposefully mocking him for invoking the concept of "commodification". He ABSOLUTELY was using it to attack that other anon for making his decision about who to date based in part on whether he enjoyed the experience of being with that person.

            >there's nothing wrong or irreligious with commodifying things by the way

            That was the point of the reason of my post.

            I think you are applying the economic concept of "commodity" correctly, but that's not how braindead leftist moron anons like the one I was speaking to apply the concept of commodification. They ABSOLUTELY apply it to mean "treating human relationships like a series of exchanges where I expect the other person to demonstrate value to me or to my life".

            Greentexting a comical take on their position and using GASP and multiple exclamation points really should have clued you in that I was mocking their viewpoint.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >That was the point of the reason of my post.

            The rest of my post, rather.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Here's a tip: the other homosexual you're arguing about has autism, aka vain mental cripple disease. They are incapable of understanding advanced concepts like nuance, sarcasm, metaphors, and other non-literal methods of communication. Forget about lofty things like rhetoric. It is far beyond their pitiful """abilities""".

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What do you do for work, and what does she do? Sounds like you must have some kind of high prestige job if she's still around.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            im a bog standard WFH email job guy, she's a chemical engineer. people are different and unpredictable, and if you follow rigid rules for pigeonholing them, instead of taking the time to find out about them, it's only ever going to help you be wrong. shrug emoji.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >bog standard WFH email job guy
            The frick does that entail?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            people email me questions, i email them back with answers, sometimes based on their response i will email them some more or even call them. it takes up maybe 2-4 real hours a day and 10% of my brainpower. it lets me keep on top of house/meals/baby too. im really a terrible employee but i speak french and spanish about as well as the average Indian call center guy speaks English. so i can take calls from Quebec and, uh, pretty much anywhere in the US lol. means firing me would be a pain in the ass. i hope you liked reading my blogpost. i hope it wasn't TLDR for you. i hope you now have all the answers and a great life from
            now and die happy and go to heaven and are reunited with your mom dad and goldfish. love light and namaste saar <3

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            its substantially less high status than hers, which is what i thought was the point. "would you still love and support me i was a NEET" is not a question i have asked her (except for a while when she did but it was ages ago)

            Let me guess, you married a pajeeta (lowest status female)? No wonder she's stuck with your pathetic ass: not like she can do much better either.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            nope, i'm the pajeet lol. but we haven't done a 23andme, so "white" is about the best she can reliably do. you would definitely call us both 2/10s though, and some of the things we do in private are so cringey you'd laugh your ass off. but even with all that i'm pretty happy about things.

            are you?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >bitches about muh commodification
            >look at me sirs, I married a white fee-male!!!!
            Well, at least we can confirm you're a poo-in-loo since this is exactly what they would do.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you can commodify people all you want, i already said there's nothing wrong or irreligious with doing it. and you can b***h about me being a poo in a loo or whatever you want. i'm not the boss of you.

            but does any of it make you happy?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Exposing you as a massive hypocrite does.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            what am i hypocriting about? help me out here

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >yuo shouldn't commodify pipo
            >they's unpredictable!!!!
            Meanwhile:

            right. now generalize this to prove a senior quality control engineer on 210k is less prestigious than a semibilingual househusband with a 50k sinecure. show your working

            >income PREDICTS status

            nope, i'm the pajeet lol. but we haven't done a 23andme, so "white" is about the best she can reliably do. you would definitely call us both 2/10s though, and some of the things we do in private are so cringey you'd laugh your ass off. but even with all that i'm pretty happy about things.

            are you?

            >look at me sirs, I married a white fee-male!!!!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            this would only be hypocritical if you make the gigantic assumption i actually picked my wife by calculating her "status" through some sort of income-racial algorithm. you are capable of realizing that not everyone does that, right?
            >but then why mention her race or status or anything?!?!?
            cos you geniuses keep bringing it up! trouble is it's not very helpful in helping you figure out why i feel like i'm doing fine in my life and you.... maybe sorta possibly do not. why? if your concepts and goals and priorities have brought you somewhere that isn't where you wanna be, what use are they to you?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All I'm doing is pointing out obvious contradictions in your own words.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            EXACTLY. because i'm using YOUR concepts. comparing one unique human being's "status" or "sexual market value" or whatever kind of universal one dimensional measure you like, to another's, inevitably LEADS to logical contradictions. the only way you can figure out anything about someone else is to simply figure them out

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And you still don't get the fact that people use concepts and words wrong in reality. Fascinating.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            seems to me that people use words and concepts like any other tool, to accomplish their goals. ideas are basically just tools for shaping the world after all, same as a screwdriver or a gun. nowyou might be using someone else's off the shelf tool that isn't designed right for you. or you might be wasting time with your own crappy home-built tool when there's one on the shelf someone smarter than you made. or you may even just have crappy goals. but the only one who gets to decide any of that is you

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Saar, the bloody bastard b***h hell are you even rambling about?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The person you're referring to seems to be discussing a philosophical view on language, concepts, and ideas, framing them as tools that individuals use to interact with and shape the world around them. This perspective highlights the instrumental value of ideas and words, comparing them to tangible tools like screwdrivers or guns, emphasizing their purpose in achieving one's goals.

            The speaker suggests that the effectiveness of these "tools" (ideas and words) can vary greatly depending on several factors:
            - **Compatibility**: Whether the ideas or words one uses are "off the shelf" and not perfectly suited to their unique circumstances or goals, implying that some concepts might not be as effective because they were developed by others with different contexts in mind.
            - **Quality**: The speaker mentions the possibility of using a poorly constructed "home-built tool" versus a more refined tool developed by someone with greater expertise. This suggests that not all ideas or methods we come up with are as effective as those created by individuals with more knowledge or insight.
            - **Purpose**: The idea that one's goals themselves might be flawed ("crappy goals"), suggesting that the effectiveness of one's tools (ideas and concepts) also depends on the validity or worthiness of the goals they aim to achieve.

            Ultimately, the speaker asserts that it's up to the individual to decide the appropriateness, effectiveness, and morality of the tools (ideas, words, concepts) they use to shape the world, highlighting a subjective or relativistic view towards the utility and ethical dimensions of ideas and language. This viewpoint emphasizes personal autonomy and responsibility in choosing and using ideas to navigate and influence the world.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He got caught out "commodifying" his wife in every sense of the word
            notice how he only talks about her attractiveness, race, income
            then he talks about how his life is better than ours because of his wife
            not once has he mentioned her personality or if he actually loves her
            You could switch out "wife" for "new flatscreen tv" and what he's saying would still fit that's the level of commodification he's on.
            Of course realising he's done this and is being called out for his hypocrisy he retreats into being unintelligible.
            There's no reason to do this on an anonymous image board but it's probably just a knee jerk reaction for people who are used to arguing dishonestly.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >knee jerk reaction for people who are used to arguing dishonestly
            Bingo. Fricking called it. That pajeet fricking REEKS of r*dditor, on top of the usual curry shit smell, so shit-squared. Notice the last sentence of this post:

            ...do you know "commodity" in the economic sense means lol. hint, it isn't equivalent to or a synonym for "item that you can enjoy or not enjoy", it's a synonym for "item that you trade for another item of equal or greater value". you commodify your own height, abs, good job, because that's the only way you can commensurate its value with someone else's pair of breasts and pretty face, ie heterogenous objects. Deciding you personally like something more than something else, is insufficient to assign it a commodified value, measurably less greater or equivalent to some other physically different object. it's a heuristic you cooked up. (well, millions of people cooked it up before you really, and you took their precooked heuristic, but that doesn't make a difference). it's a great heuristic when trading pork bellies for basedbeans on the futures exchange.... but what use is that heuristic to you?

            >it's a great heuristic when trading pork bellies for basedbeans on the futures exchange.... but what use is that heuristic to you?
            >basedbeans
            Does this look like what someone who is familiar with the NSFFW word filter, which I may add as been active for YEARS now, would do?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He got caught out "commodifying" his wife in every sense of the word
            notice how he only talks about her attractiveness, race, income
            then he talks about how his life is better than ours because of his wife
            not once has he mentioned her personality or if he actually loves her
            You could switch out "wife" for "new flatscreen tv" and what he's saying would still fit that's the level of commodification he's on.
            Of course realising he's done this and is being called out for his hypocrisy he retreats into being unintelligible.
            There's no reason to do this on an anonymous image board but it's probably just a knee jerk reaction for people who are used to arguing dishonestly.

            You know what's a funny coincidence? There's another all lowercase redditspacer that tends to show up in threads about approaching women who makes the same arguments, commodification of his partner (using the same race metrics I may add; the income shit is new) and an extremely autistic, literal understanding of the world included. And he was outed a a total failure in nearly every sense of the word as well. I'm still not entirely sure if the "pajeet" rearing his ugly head in this thread is the same homosexual, which means somehow he learned how to lie semi-convincingly, or if it's someone with a similar manifestation of the 'tism. The really, really interesting thing is that the pajeet's "wife" is claimed to be in the same line of work as the other homosexual was found to be in...

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It could be a coincidence
            There is innate contradiction to saying you have a wife because you don't commodify women "I obtained this thing by possessing a value"
            And it is a contradiction you'd expect a redditor to naturally make, seeing as how they would simultaneously want to virtue signal about respecting women while seeing getting pussy as something which improves a mans worth as a person.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I agree with you that he's a r*dditor piece of shit, but there isn't any hard evidence linking him with the known homosexual from previous threads. Like I said, it's either a different autist with similar mental processes, or by some insane miracle, it's the same one that learned to lie.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is just fricking rich: some pajeet who doesn't even leave the house for work (assuming he's telling the truth) trying to give people advice he can't implement on IRL social interaction.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Having a " bog standard WFH email job" during the pandemic, and especially after considering the return to office movement is in full swing makes your job "high status" you mong.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            its substantially less high status than hers, which is what i thought was the point. "would you still love and support me i was a NEET" is not a question i have asked her (except for a while when she did but it was ages ago)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If she's just some low level employee, basically over-educated lab tech like most engineering graduates for the past decade or so, then she's probably not much higher status than you, even if you're both telling the same yuppie white lies to inflate yourselves everyone else is doing (they can see right through it but keep their mouths shut, since everyone's doing it).

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            do we live in a new world where "status" doesn't scale roughly with "size of paycheck". how do i get to this world

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Some high class escorts earn far more than your average doctor, yet people still look at them as worse than janitors.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            right. now generalize this to prove a senior quality control engineer on 210k is less prestigious than a semibilingual househusband with a 50k sinecure. show your working

  82. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why have men stopped approaching women?

    you will be arrested for it. it is assault

  83. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    assault.

  84. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    signs like this appearing in UK everywhere, last months.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      'joke'

      info: do not communicate with women. at all. if you are served by a woman, in any capacity. 1. they do not want to server you anyway. just walk way. or ask to be served by a man.

      do not be accused of assault. women can destroy your life, easily.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ok but ~~*they*~~ are trying to depopulate this country, what better way to do that than to spark hatred between men and women?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >spark hatred between men and women?
        Women have always had at least disdain for men. The hate was already sparked, the change was that women were allowed to express their hate.

  85. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Hey why aren't men like you approaching women like us any more?
    >Why bother, you won't say yes anyways
    >What? You don't know that
    >Yes I do
    >Oh come on, you'll never really know unless you take a chance.
    >Ok fine. Hey I'm anon, I-
    >EWW GET AWAY FROM ME INCEL LOSER! BARTENDER THIS MISOGYNIST IS HARASSING US HAVE HIM THROWN OUT OF THE BAR!
    >Haha omg that was so great! Did you see the look on his face? Haha that'll teach entitled rapist like him to think twice before acting like women owe him sex!
    >Now let's go find Chad and have a six-way with him, teehee!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      high mileage c**ts are disgusting

  86. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The reality is Women decide weather they'll bother with you the moment they take a glance. Anything past that is completely up in the air, but I'll still entertain the idea of approaching if they give off accepting energy.

  87. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no explanations
    bluepillers and foids act like they know so much already and will just cope against any explanation you give them so let these morons figure it out themselves

  88. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    women are being "approached" by plenty of chads in their dms and they're approaching those guys as well.

    they just like to complain and miss the free meals and dates that betagays used to take them on.

  89. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you suddenly find yourself in a social situation where you're approaching or being approached by a woman observe the following safety rules:
    >Identify yourself by speaking in a calm, appeasing tone.
    >Attempt to make yourself taller than them(at least 25cm)
    >Back away slowly, preferably in the direction you came.
    >Walk, don't run, and never look back
    If you appear to be leaving then most women will leave you alone as long as you do not challenge them, threaten their offspring, or come between them and food.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you need to make yourself bigger, puff up your chest and do side jumps while screaming from the top of your lungs to intimidate them? Birds of paradise do that a lot

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No they'll just think you're competing with them for attention, and exacerbate their own hostile behavior leaving you no option but to draw your sidearm.

  90. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've never approached or been approached.
    t. 30m

  91. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this cant be fricking real.
    If she cant consent because she is drunk, he also cant consent because he drunk, so how is it rape if the guy didnt consent? All rapes have one thing in common, the intent of the rapist.

  92. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because for me (not a chad) approaching women is a no-win situation. It's like
    >hey babe, can I be a simp and throw money at you tonight only to never see you again?
    and then she would get to either feed her ego by rejecting me, or take my money.

  93. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ultimately, girls miss the validation and the double luxury of being approached and still being able to reject guys. For the most part, girls don't like the men, they like the fact that the men like them so if you go too far, that's when problems start.

    That said, if you want to approach, your best chance is at clubs. Wear nice clothes and fragrances and use shoelifts if you want. Dance near a girl you have a realistic chance with, offer them a drink because that's always a way to test if they're interested, and walk away instantly if she looks uninterested. Fake it until you make it. If things progress, give a fake name and number, and don't let her know where you sleep. Don't bank on this working; I said it was the best chance men have.

  94. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only solution is to make them property again.

  95. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >too ugly to approach/get approached by women
    maybe I should try female looking femboys
    >grindr account creation not working
    its over for me

  96. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    womeme aren't people

  97. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >women complain about men approaching them
    >literally all men say they would like to be approached by women
    I mean, the solution is clear, isn't it?
    Women need to stop being fricking lazy, and thinking we're living in 1950 or some shit, LMAO.
    You have a job. Buy me some food, and tell me I look nice.

    Why not? Tell me right now, why not?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Thinks women are human and not cattle.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Learn to be human. I don't give a shit. No more excuses.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Start behaving like humans with agency, or trannies will replace you. I'm not joking. They're looking real good right now. They LOOK like women, but they're fun to talk. That's more than what a woman can offer.

      Unbelievably based. This is womens fault and problem to fix, they want things to change, they need to start making an effort

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because they don't have the balls to do it, and because they get zero ego boost from being the ones who actually approach.
      Also, they'd never approach you, because you are not chad. They'd rather die alone than do that, just like they'd rather stay obese, lose their legs and die from a heart attack than lose the weight and eat salads.

  98. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Start behaving like humans with agency, or trannies will replace you. I'm not joking. They're looking real good right now. They LOOK like women, but they're fun to talk. That's more than what a woman can offer.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Trannies or AI, but either way women are done. I'd sooner drag a foid behind my car than talk to her any more than absolutely necessary.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Frick the AI girlfriend meme but thats fricking hilarious. Women literally cannot fathom not being insufferable

  99. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Uglycels/neets/etc. wouldn't know, but the current trend is women approaching men out of desperation. They are terrible at it and drop their spaghetti immediately, or come off like stalkers.
    More than once in the past year I've had some landwhale make a pass at me saying something along the lines of:
    >"I've been watching you for days now *heavy breathing* um and like here's my number!! *runs and trips over feet*"
    if you actually text them they just spamming dick pics and saying AYO GURL U WAN SUM FRICK?
    Actually hilarious that women are revealed to have the pickup skills of pajeets.
    It's been really fun word for word quoting the shit girls have said to me that traumatized me right back at one.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      meant "female version of spamming dick pics" idk where that line went lmao.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fricking lol
      Even funnier when you consider that despite their shitty, jeet-tier, spaghetti-carpet-bombing of an approach, they still ask you to do the work for them.
      >no no, I'm not gonna ask for your number and invite you out, I'm gonna give you my number so you can call me and ask me out
      Ridiculous.
      >It's been really fun word for word quoting the shit girls have said to me that traumatized me right back at one.
      Hell yeah.
      Burn them.

  100. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Love is dead, people are products and tools for sex and validation that's all a relationship is as a man. Something many will never have or understand

  101. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm balding, still get acne and have 0 social skills. If I approached a woman they would likely call the cops

  102. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    some of the signals women send out are pathetic, last week I was having a coffee alone while waiting for something and some girl walks past me like four times, staring at me hard, stopping, starting again, looking behind her. By the time she walked by for the 5th time I snorted into my coffee and started coughing. If she ever actually said anything to me I would have been so pleased with her and given her my number but when she plays a dumb game like this I am not interested

  103. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are too many conditional statements. Flat out rejected by most I ask out. Left with a few. Most are moronic, ex bawds, insufferable, globohomosexual brained. Yeah, I want connection with a female because of my
    biological urges. But does that mean I enjoy interacting with subpar specimens that think they are somehow above average and deserve the best? Quite the opposite.
    Good women are super rare. Chance to actually end up with one are what, like 1 in a 100? Probably even less. I ain't gonna go ask out 100 women in search of one actual human being in a sea of subhuman instagramcattle

  104. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tbh tbh tbh tbh tbh tbh tbh tbh tbh tbh tbh tbh tbh tbh onions onions tbh onions

  105. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There aren't any women worth approaching kek. Why the frick should I if any of these b***hes will jump on my dick because I smiled at her? Hookup culture and feminism encouraging femoids to prostitute themselves out was the best thing to happen to our generation bros.

  106. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tried the dating apps and those didnt work
    Irl would be worse

  107. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    my ego has taken too many hits from rejections. Also had girls give endless choosing signals and then reject me when I approached them.
    Women just want attention for the most part.
    At least on dating apps you can circumvent this bullshit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this is why I do this to women now and it kind of works. act interested then gaslight hard when they try to make a move

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >act interested then gaslight hard when they try to make a move
        can you give an example? i don't get it

  108. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    approaching women today is a total act of submission. You are giving them ALL the power.

    back in the 50s etc there were social forces at play that made it less like that. Women had less options and being a single woman was looked down upon. Therefore approaching women was more so just saying "i'm available if you're interested".

    Today it's essentially like saying "here, i'm ready to be your play thing do whatever you want with me"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >approaching women today is a total act of submission.
      It is.You should never approach a woman, all youre doing is intentionally throwing yourself into her claws, if youre lucky.

  109. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because were big pussies

  110. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its so over. so god dang over. no chance

  111. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is against the law.

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