Why is it impossible to attract a girlfriend?

You see some of the morons and slobs that attract women without trying, while you are invisible no matter what, and wonder what you have to do. I've encountered many guys with few redeeming qualities who somehow stumbled their way into a relationship. I know that I shouldn't try to understand what women see in certain guys, as it's often incomprehensible, but it drives me insane. If I'm resigned to this fate, what was even the point of being born at all?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shitty people always get together with other shitty people; this is not an exclusively a man or woman thing. Despite their attractiveness, I guarantee that these women aren't that great, as human beings, if you ever got the chance to know them. In fact, who someone dates, regardless of their gender, is a pretty easy red flag of what they're really like as a person.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know what you're saying but I've known women who were sweet and well-educated, and their choice of partner made no sense whatsoever. You can begrudgingly accept when women date the most attractive/successful men available to them, but when they go out of their way to date morons and bums, it's a mindfrick.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >but I've known women who were sweet and well-educated
        Doesn't mean they can't be terrible human beings under certain circumstances. Hell, it's extremely common for abusers to be the nicest, most intelligent person in the room.

        >but when they go out of their way to date morons and bums, it's a mindfrick
        Which typically says more about her as an individual.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >be me regular guy
      >had a hard life but pushed through
      >get a gf/wife who i love dearly
      >incel spots me and then goes on NSFFW
      >”Fricking morons and slobs attract women without trying”
      >Other enabling anon says “Yeah shitty people attract shitty people”

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unfortunately I know plenty of guys who are demonstrably slobs and shitty people but somehow managed to attract a woman with no effort. I work hard to make the most of the hand I was dealt, try to be the best person I can be despite my disadvantages, and women don't even notice me. It's a cruel fate.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Grab a knife, and go kill that teenage b***h sucking off the Black person on the beach, like Tisserand intended to do.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is obviously not impossible.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For some of us it is absolutely impossible. We fall for the improover memes and nothing ever changes. Meanwhile, some bum pratfalls his way into a relationship.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Have you ever asked a girl out?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No women are interested in me.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So the answer is no. You're a liar. You do not want a girlfriend.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ah, you're THAT weirdo who thinks if you're not randomly asking out girls you obviously don't want a gf.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You have never once in your life done anything that would get you a girlfriend. You obviously do not want a girlfriend. If you did, you would have done something about it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If women aren't interested in you, it doesn't matter what you do.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You have never once in your life been interested in a woman. That's why you have never asked a girl out. You do not want a girlfriend.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They won't ask you out, that's not how it works.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Women signal interest in men they like. WTF are you meant to do if women don't even notice that you exist?

            You have never once in your life been interested in a woman. That's why you have never asked a girl out. You do not want a girlfriend.

            Okay, autismo.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, they don't like you and they don't notice you.
            And that is YOUR fault. Git gud.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not my fault. I never asked to be born, and I never asked to be unappealing to women. I would understand if I was some unhygienic sperg, but I'm far from it. I'm just cursed.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So the answer is no. You're a liar. You do not want a girlfriend.

            Have you ever asked a girl out?

            You're right in a way, but you have to look at it from our perspective too. What are we supposed to do? What would you do in our shoes? Am I supposed to go up to the first girl I see outside and ask her on a romantic date? You're probably assuming that we have female friends or at least acquitances, but we don't. Our only option is just random girls we see outside.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Am I supposed to go up to the first girl I see outside and ask her on a romantic date?
            Absolutely not. You're supposed to ask out girls you know, or just talk to girls in places where it's expected and acceptable for you to do so (party, bar, even gym or school). NOT just asking out strange women on sight in the street or at the grocery store.
            >You're probably assuming that we have female friends or at least acquitances, but we don't.
            Ok, and like I told OP before about girls not noticing or liking him (and he's right), that is YOUR fault. Likewise, if you don't actually go to or do any of the places or things I mentioned just now, also YOUR fault.
            >Our only option is just random girls we see outside.
            As of now, but that doesn't mean you're supposed to do that. What you're supposed to do is improve and restructure your life so you don't have to be stuck in this position to begin with.
            This is common fricking sense. I really don't think I should have to explain this to you guys, day after day, for probably years now.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're full of shit dude. There's plenty of guys out with active social lives, good jobs, etc. who still struggle to attract women into their lives, while some jobless scumbag is drowning in pussy. Like

            you are trying to apply logic where logic is not welcome, replies prove as much

            said, there is no logic to a woman's romantic/sexual preferences.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >There's plenty of guys out with active social lives, good jobs, etc. who still struggle to attract women into their lives
            Like who? No there's not. An "active social life", be definition, will include women. Some of these guys might still have no luck with them but that's not a matter of not attracting them into their lives, it's a matter of KEEPING them there. And like I said before...that's also likely THEIR fault. They're doing something wrong somewhere, whether they realize it or not. Even if it's just chasing incompatible partners.
            > while some jobless scumbag is drowning in pussy
            The jobless scumbag probably talked to a girl at some point. Have you? Or maybe he just looks really good. Do you?
            There actually is a logic to what women will go for, dare I say it's almost even predictable when you crack the code for that particular girl. But what you autists have to realize is that their logic is not the same as yours; they don't see the world in the same way and they don't prioritize the same things.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Get a load of this guy. He cannot accept that the universe is chaotic and unfair. Nope. If you can't attract a woman, it's because you didn't pull up your bootstraps and get to work lmao.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >There's plenty of guys out with active social lives, good jobs, etc. who still struggle to attract women into their lives
            No there aren't. You need to stop lying.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You're supposed to ask out girls you know, or just talk to girls in places where it's expected and acceptable for you to do so (party, bar, even gym or school). NOT just asking out strange women on sight in the street or at the grocery store

            >Ok, and like I told OP before about girls not noticing or liking him (and he's right), that is YOUR fault. Likewise, if you don't actually go to or do any of the places or things I mentioned just now, also YOUR fault.

            I don't know any girls. I missed out on making female friends when I was in school because I was awkward due to bad parenting. By the time I got into technical school (highschool) I found myself in a class made up mostly by guys and I had no other venue of meeting women. Then I got to college and the thing I discovered is that most activities where you can meet people require you to have a gf or at least some friends to attend them.

            You can't got to a party as a single guy with no friends or girlfriend to accompany you. What are you going to do there on your own? Watch as others are having fun and dancing? I would stick out like a sore thumb because I would be on my own and I don't even look like a partygoer type.

            Gyms/sports aren't a good venue to meet girls unless you're a jock. The whole activities are based on how well you can perform and that's the only thing they get to see about you. You aren't going to impress any gymbunny by being an awkward guy who's learning the ropes and they will always be guys much better at whatever you're doing since they've done it their entire lives.

            >What you're supposed to do is improve and restructure your life so you don't have to be stuck in this position to begin with

            But how? You completely ignore our situation just so you can insult us. Give me a single example of a place where I can show up and be in a position to meet and date young women in their twenties.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Then I got to college and the thing I discovered is that most activities where you can meet people require you to have a gf or at least some friends to attend them.
            Like what? There are all kinds of programs and clubs in college. There are bars near every campus. There are open invite parties everywhere you look.
            >I don't even look like a partygoer type.
            So? But's let assume that even matters...again, whose fault is that? What about your nerd friends in your technical classes? No one got together to throw some stemcel parties even there? I doubt that.
            >Gyms/sports aren't a good venue to meet girls unless you're a jock.
            Again, not even true but let's pretend it is. Why aren't you? That would still be your fault. Noticing a pattern yet?
            > You aren't going to impress any gymbunny by being an awkward guy who's learning the ropes and they will always be guys much better at whatever you're doing since they've done it their entire lives.
            What makes you think you're supposed to get a gymbunny? There are also nerdy girls just getting into working out for the first time at every gym. They may be cute, or they may be fat. But either way, THAT is your level. You're not going to get Stacy, you're not going to get the captain of the cheerleader team or an IG fitness influencer.
            >Give me a single example of a place where I can show up and be in a position to meet and date young women in their twenties
            I've given you several. It's just excuses and cope why they won't work for you even though they work for everyone else, every time.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >There are all kinds of programs and clubs in college. There are bars near every campus. There are open invite parties everywhere you look.

            Yeah but those things are always catered towards couples or groups of friends. Like what am I gonna do on a helloween carnival by myself? Even the summer trips are built like this.

            >So? But's let assume that even matters...again, whose fault is that? What about your nerd friends in your technical classes? No one got together to throw some stemcel parties even there? I doubt that

            I mean, not everybody has to be a partygoer. I certainly never will be the type. I don't have any irl friends now but even back when I had them they weren't the kinds of people to party. So no.

            >Again, not even true but let's pretend it is. Why aren't you? That would still be your fault. Noticing a pattern yet?

            Yes. I'm not a Jock. So I guess I'm at "fault" for not being raised up to be one. The only pattern I notice is being fricked over for things I have no influence over. You can't just "become" one because you have to like sports in the first place (I don't) and even then you're looking at years of effort to get any good at them.

            >What makes you think you're supposed to get a gymbunny? There are also nerdy girls just getting into working out for the first time at every gym. They may be cute, or they may be fat. But either way, THAT is your level. You're not going to get Stacy, you're not going to get the captain of the cheerleader team or an IG fitness influencer.

            I don't want or need a Stacy level influencer. I'm not even attracted to those girls. I like girls who look and act feminine. Normal girls don't work out in gyms. Gyms are always packed with gymbunnies and bull dykes.

            >I've given you several. It's just excuses and cope why they won't work for you even though they work for everyone else, every time.

            You only gave me superficial nonsense I could've figured out on my own. Obviously I did. Didn't work.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Yeah but those things are always catered towards couples or groups of friends
            Ah, so now it's "catered towards" but before it was "required". Nice goalpost shift.
            Look man, if you don't know ANYONE then yeah, you might have to work a little harder, you might have to put yourself out there, and you might have to risk showing up to places alone. Big fricking deal. If you're worthy, you'll rise up to it. Think of it like all those movies where the hero is exiled alone in the desert for a while.
            >I mean, not everybody has to be a partygoer. I certainly never will be the type.
            It doesn't matter. Do you think every guy with a gf is? For that matter, do you think every woman is? No. There are plenty of quiet people out there who don't like to party. These were the people you were supposed to befriend or date, not the party animals, but for some reason you didn't even do that.
            >I don't have any irl friends now but even back when I had them they weren't the kinds of people to party
            And why couldn't YOU initiate then? Like, "hey guys, come over my place this weekend for D&D and hentai" or whatever?
            >I like girls who look and act feminine. Normal girls don't work out in gyms.
            Of all the copes in this thread...and there are many, from many posters...this one might be the biggest.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Ah, so now it's "catered towards" but before it was "required". Nice goalpost shift.

            I mean whats really the difference? It's obviously never "required" but you need to not be alone to enjoy those events and not look like a wierdo. Going out camping with 40 people can be great fun, but when at the end of the night you're sipping at your beer alone while others are all over themselves and some are already having sex in the background. Yeah it's gonna make you feel like shit.

            >There are plenty of quiet people out there who don't like to party. These were the people you were supposed to befriend or date, not the party animals, but for some reason you didn't even do that.

            I could if I were younger, but there aren't any venues to meet these people now.

            >hey guys, come over my place this weekend for D&D and hentai

            I never had my own place, I spend most of my life in a tiny commie block and the last thing I wanted was to bring friends home.

            >Of all the copes in this thread...and there are many, from many posters...this one might be the biggest.

            Might be because I'm not an American, but here it really is like this. Feminine girls read and play instruments or just hang out. They don't go to gyms. Only gymbunnies and bulldykes do here.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I will fly to Vienna this weekend and force you to come with me outside and I will literally drag girls with me back to my hotel to frick. If that's not learning by example I don't know what is.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I doubt you can pull girls this easily.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I actually can because I'm not an insufferable negative c**t.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I mean whats really the difference? It's obviously never "required"
            The difference is that it means no one was stopping you but you.
            > but you need to not be alone to enjoy those events and not look like a wierdo
            Here you seem to want it both ways. Because apparently you ARE a weirdo but you're also deathly afraid of looking like one.
            >I could if I were younger, but there aren't any venues to meet these people now.
            You'll notice I said things were YOUR fault several times now right? I'm not saying that to make you feel better, I'm not saying to kick you while you're down either believe it or not. I'm saying that because it's an objective truth.

            I doubt you can pull girls this easily.

            NTA, but lots of guys can. I could do it too. I am American; turn me lose anywhere in Europe and I bet you I'd clean up.

            I will fly to Vienna this weekend and force you to come with me outside and I will literally drag girls with me back to my hotel to frick. If that's not learning by example I don't know what is.

            >Vienna
            Oh frick, was I wasting my time talking to Austrian ginger again?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Because apparently you ARE a weirdo but you're also deathly afraid of looking like one.

            We're on NSFFW, neither of us would be here if we were "normal". This should go without saying that I don't want to be seen as weird when I'm already having a hard time getting with girls.

            >You'll notice I said things were YOUR fault several times now right? I'm not saying that to make you feel better, I'm not saying to kick you while you're down either believe it or not. I'm saying that because it's an objective truth.

            But it's not the truth. I had no influence on my upbringing. That was solely in the hands of my mother and state education. The only thing I can do influence is what I do next and I have no business playing at Jock now. It's too late.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In other words, as you have stated so many times, you do not want a girlfriend.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You do know this guy isn't OP right?

            [...]
            [...]

            You're right in a way, but you have to look at it from our perspective too. What are we supposed to do? What would you do in our shoes? Am I supposed to go up to the first girl I see outside and ask her on a romantic date? You're probably assuming that we have female friends or at least acquitances, but we don't. Our only option is just random girls we see outside.

            >You're supposed to ask out girls you know, or just talk to girls in places where it's expected and acceptable for you to do so (party, bar, even gym or school). NOT just asking out strange women on sight in the street or at the grocery store

            >Ok, and like I told OP before about girls not noticing or liking him (and he's right), that is YOUR fault. Likewise, if you don't actually go to or do any of the places or things I mentioned just now, also YOUR fault.

            I don't know any girls. I missed out on making female friends when I was in school because I was awkward due to bad parenting. By the time I got into technical school (highschool) I found myself in a class made up mostly by guys and I had no other venue of meeting women. Then I got to college and the thing I discovered is that most activities where you can meet people require you to have a gf or at least some friends to attend them.

            You can't got to a party as a single guy with no friends or girlfriend to accompany you. What are you going to do there on your own? Watch as others are having fun and dancing? I would stick out like a sore thumb because I would be on my own and I don't even look like a partygoer type.

            Gyms/sports aren't a good venue to meet girls unless you're a jock. The whole activities are based on how well you can perform and that's the only thing they get to see about you. You aren't going to impress any gymbunny by being an awkward guy who's learning the ropes and they will always be guys much better at whatever you're doing since they've done it their entire lives.

            >What you're supposed to do is improve and restructure your life so you don't have to be stuck in this position to begin with

            But how? You completely ignore our situation just so you can insult us. Give me a single example of a place where I can show up and be in a position to meet and date young women in their twenties.

            >There are all kinds of programs and clubs in college. There are bars near every campus. There are open invite parties everywhere you look.

            Yeah but those things are always catered towards couples or groups of friends. Like what am I gonna do on a helloween carnival by myself? Even the summer trips are built like this.

            >So? But's let assume that even matters...again, whose fault is that? What about your nerd friends in your technical classes? No one got together to throw some stemcel parties even there? I doubt that

            I mean, not everybody has to be a partygoer. I certainly never will be the type. I don't have any irl friends now but even back when I had them they weren't the kinds of people to party. So no.

            >Again, not even true but let's pretend it is. Why aren't you? That would still be your fault. Noticing a pattern yet?

            Yes. I'm not a Jock. So I guess I'm at "fault" for not being raised up to be one. The only pattern I notice is being fricked over for things I have no influence over. You can't just "become" one because you have to like sports in the first place (I don't) and even then you're looking at years of effort to get any good at them.

            >What makes you think you're supposed to get a gymbunny? There are also nerdy girls just getting into working out for the first time at every gym. They may be cute, or they may be fat. But either way, THAT is your level. You're not going to get Stacy, you're not going to get the captain of the cheerleader team or an IG fitness influencer.

            I don't want or need a Stacy level influencer. I'm not even attracted to those girls. I like girls who look and act feminine. Normal girls don't work out in gyms. Gyms are always packed with gymbunnies and bull dykes.

            >I've given you several. It's just excuses and cope why they won't work for you even though they work for everyone else, every time.

            You only gave me superficial nonsense I could've figured out on my own. Obviously I did. Didn't work.

            >Ah, so now it's "catered towards" but before it was "required". Nice goalpost shift.

            I mean whats really the difference? It's obviously never "required" but you need to not be alone to enjoy those events and not look like a wierdo. Going out camping with 40 people can be great fun, but when at the end of the night you're sipping at your beer alone while others are all over themselves and some are already having sex in the background. Yeah it's gonna make you feel like shit.

            >There are plenty of quiet people out there who don't like to party. These were the people you were supposed to befriend or date, not the party animals, but for some reason you didn't even do that.

            I could if I were younger, but there aren't any venues to meet these people now.

            >hey guys, come over my place this weekend for D&D and hentai

            I never had my own place, I spend most of my life in a tiny commie block and the last thing I wanted was to bring friends home.

            >Of all the copes in this thread...and there are many, from many posters...this one might be the biggest.

            Might be because I'm not an American, but here it really is like this. Feminine girls read and play instruments or just hang out. They don't go to gyms. Only gymbunnies and bulldykes do here.

            >Because apparently you ARE a weirdo but you're also deathly afraid of looking like one.

            We're on NSFFW, neither of us would be here if we were "normal". This should go without saying that I don't want to be seen as weird when I'm already having a hard time getting with girls.

            >You'll notice I said things were YOUR fault several times now right? I'm not saying that to make you feel better, I'm not saying to kick you while you're down either believe it or not. I'm saying that because it's an objective truth.

            But it's not the truth. I had no influence on my upbringing. That was solely in the hands of my mother and state education. The only thing I can do influence is what I do next and I have no business playing at Jock now. It's too late.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Does that matter when it applies equally well to him as it does to OP then?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >We're on NSFFW, neither of us would be here if we were "normal".
            And now you feel the need to insult me, when whether or not I'm "normal" has no bearing on the conversation.
            I'm here to help people like you you ingrate. I also really don't give a frick whether people see me as "normal" or not. I'm probably not, but because I'm above the average person. Most of you here are below.
            >That was solely in the hands of my mother and state education
            Your mother and school have nothing to do with what you can or cannot do NOW as an adult.
            >It's too late.
            Ok great, then stand by your words and move on then. If it's "too late", I never want to see you complaining or making another thread about this again, deal?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Ok great, then stand by your words and move on then. If it's "too late", I never want to see you complaining or making another thread about this again, deal?

            It's too late to become a Jock and get a gf by playing sports/gym like you adviced me.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and get a gf by playing sports/gym
            No one ever said this. Mind you should get in shape anyway, for your own health and out of a sense of basic pride. And yes, it certainly won't hurt your chances.
            You can also stop viewing the world through the lens of 80s teen movies and throwing around terms like "jock" and "nerd" unironically. There are "jocks" who read and "nerds" who lift.
            The most capable and dangerous people on Earth do both.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm already in shape from shovegloving and running, I just suck at sports and don't do gyms. But that's completely besides the point. The whole reason I entered this thread was to disprove the claim that just because you aren't asking girls out doesn't mean that you don't want a gf.

            [...]
            [...]

            You're right in a way, but you have to look at it from our perspective too. What are we supposed to do? What would you do in our shoes? Am I supposed to go up to the first girl I see outside and ask her on a romantic date? You're probably assuming that we have female friends or at least acquitances, but we don't. Our only option is just random girls we see outside.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I am American; turn me lose anywhere in Europe and I bet you I'd clean up.
            I actually went to Vienna as an American recently and didn't pull. Language barrier was too much, I rely on butting into other people's conversations but I didn't know any German to do that

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're supposed to set up an account on a dating site like Tinder. There, you know the girls are available, and if they are interested in you, they will reply to your messages.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You're supposed to set up an account on a dating site like Tinder

            lol lmao even. Buy an ad.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Tinder
            Good one, anon!

            You could just have said "I don't want a girlfriend".

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Tinder
            Good one, anon!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I've unironically asked fifty or so over the years and only one didn't say she was taken. So we dated and then she got murdered. One hell of a way for the fate to put me in my place.
          Of course I'm pretty sure most of them didn't actually have bfs and lied to get me to frick off.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not impossible. Stop lying on the internet, gay psyopper.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I dunno kys

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you are trying to apply logic where logic is not welcome, replies prove as much

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >OP takes no actions that would help him attract a woman
      >OP does not ask any women out or even talk to any
      >OP ends up with no woman
      Idk anon, the outcome here seems pretty logical to me.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not but if you're not careful you'll end up like me with one 10 years older and almost twice your weight. Head from these ladies is bomb tho

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BUMP.
    What is the point trying to improve yourself if women are going to appreciate it?

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/31186498/#31186520

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not helpful.

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