Why is it so hard for the average guy to get a GF?

Why is it so hard for the average guy to get a GF? Back in the day all you needed was a good paying job and maybe a personality, nowadays it's about how tall a guy is or what he's packing down there or if he has a nice chin/jawline. What happened?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women became less dependent on men's money so things have reverted to a primal state. This is further exacerbated by mass communication as it means women are exposed to far more men than they would ever meet naturally. This includes seeing far more good looking men on social media that are ostensibly attainable to them, inflating standards and making interaction shallower overall. Also dating apps means having to compete with pretty much any man in your area rather than men she encounters day to day.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this anon is on the money,not to mention any prejudice against being with someone from another race/religion is gone so you will have much more competence

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly this.

      Social media has totally warped women's expectations in men. Normal guys they'd hang out with at college/work would be the same guys they date but now are not seen as potential paratners as they want someone higher, richer and looking like a Hollywood star.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It went down hill fast. It was at best OK before the plandemic but during and after it dumped and never inflected back. I suspect it won't. Women can't even have a conversation anymore without checking their phones

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jews. It's always israelites.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is it so hard for the average guy to get a GF?
    It's not. Stop posting lies on the internet.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Explain NSFFW/incel culture then?

      Jews. It's always israelites.

      It all makes sense

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Incels are the bottom 0.001% of males. They are nowhere near an "average guy".

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You haven't seen most incels then, personally, being a late bloomer ruined me mentally but i'm working on fixing it unlike most.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nobody has seen incels, as they only exist on the internet. None of them ever leave their home, so nobody has actually seen one in real life.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I've been a male model and I'm still a virgin in my late 20s. That sounds like bragging but its just the only way I can say that to dispel the idea I'm some fat guy who can't take care of himself
          I also have a friend circle and I go out often.
          I just don't understand what women want at all

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >male model
            Women were always repulsed by homosexuals, romantically. Suck dick and take it up the ass, this is the nature of your type of male, always has been, this isn't a new and suddenly mysterious thing. .

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >explain incel culture
        I don't know how to dumb down the concept of "dudes who sit inside and whine every day about how hard shit is and affirm to each other it's impossible and they can't do it and they should just hate women and learn to belittle them and look down on them can't get girlfriends" and I definitely don't know how to explain the concept of "perception" or "paradigms" to you if you're this dumb..

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Explain NSFFW/incel culture then?
        They are not average.
        Can't you just experience life? Go talk to people, don't expect getting your dick sucked and delete social medias, its that easy. You just gotta take your time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This image proves nothing

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The anon I replied to claimed that getting a GF for the average guy was "easy". If 63% of all young men are unable to do that, I would not say that it is "easy". The study further broke down the percentages of men and women that were actively looking for a relationship, but I doubt posting that would change your mind.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If 63% of all young men are unable to do that
            It doesnt say that so

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What DOES the study say in your mind then, you disingenuous wienersucker?
            Enlighten us.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It said they are single. Its pretty clear idk why you are so upset.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How else are you supposed to interpret the overlap of "actively looking for a partner" and "single"? You're eithwr not reading at all or you're not a serious person.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >actively looking for a partner
            It doesnt say that

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I’m single
        My self-declared girlfriends aren’t
        It’s basic math really

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >nowadays it's about how tall a guy is or what he's packing down there or if he has a nice chin/jawline. What happened?
    NSFFW. It's just a meme. Those things help no more nor less than they ever did.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So you're none of the things you listed.

    Have you considered at least working out and showering twice a day (minimum)? Also, personality plays a huge part bud.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its not. Mosyt people here are maladjusted and have nothing to offer. They treat having a girlfriend as if its collecting a trophy rstehr than a two way communal relationship. Why should someone associate with you? Are you fun? Do you have used skills? Are yous social and do you engage in society? Most people here treat virginity and being single like a curse without a single thought as to why they are single or virgins. Its not a state of being its a failure of the self to engage or have accumulated social abilities

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This just seems like victim blaming
      No I'm not fun. I don't know how. I don't know what to do. I feel like I've been abused for so long I just can't be human.
      When people like you say this stuff it feels like you're piling more shit on my full plate and I just have to ask why at that point. Do you want me to die?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its not because those people aren't victims. Didnt read the rest of the post

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So its my fault that I was abused my whole childhood and orphaned from a young age

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nobody said that. Women dont owe you relationships. Women aren't obligated to endure a boring unfulfilling life jsuy because you were abused.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Stop assuming I'm some incel guy I don't believe any of that. Those talking points don't work on me

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I dont know what you want. You are askign question and I'm giving answers and you are upset because they aren't happy

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not upset at all. I think you made up a version of me in your head that doesn't exist to argue with. Maybe we got off on the wrong foot?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I didnt so maybe we did. What do you need help with, I was just being factual, I think you took it personally. I was talking in general terms. What do you offer a woman?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah I don't think this is going anywhere. You're not being genuine and your tone is clearly backhanded. I don't need to put up with this junk. Cya

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ok good luck I hope things get better and things improve sorry you felt offended

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Its a simple question man - Why should a girl pick you out of Everyone else? Ignore the oervieve tone of his and contribute to the thread so it can be constrictive

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I just don't get that question at all. Why can't someone just like me for me? I don't get why everyone has to be compared like points on trading cards.
            Is that an entitled thing to say? But i mean it universally. For both genders and every individual on the planet.
            Whats the point in a relationship based on more objective metrics? That's just a genuine question. I don't see the point in pursuing that at all
            So why would someone choose me?
            Because they like me. I simply don't understand your question

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Why can't someone just like me for me
            Why should they? What are you? What are your qualities?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anyone can like anyone for anything. I don't understand what you're asking.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes you do. You are being willfuly obtuse.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            well you're being acute and octagonal

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I sincerely am not. I'm not a internet person like that. Thats genuinely how I think of it. I don't know. Isn't it up to the beholder? In the same way I can't name any "quality" I would want in a woman. I know I'm not attracted to every woman ever. Its just something more ephemeral that can't be named.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just because you feel a certain way doesnt make that the reality. You need to start thinking how others do if you want to engage with others

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know what you mean by this

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ok

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Don't treat me like one of those man

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not going to continue talking to you because every time you hear something you dislike you just say you dont know what you mean by that and take things personally

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You should start coupling that "I don't know" with a "but I will find out"

            It's clear to me that you do not know yourself, and therefore cannot articulate what makes you desirable, or quality to others. My guess is that you're quite young, and have a lot of growth to do.

            Only when you evolve, can you see the forest for the trees. You have work to do, start exploring what makes you, you. Refine and hone yourself from the boy into the man.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, anything "any thing" what things that are likeablel do you have

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it is not really about what you can offer, but more like what are your hobbies? do you have good conversational skills, like would you want to date a women who just sits at home all day brain rotting away on tiktok with no social skills? Not to say being an interesting person is the only thing that matters because it clearly is not, but having a lot of hobbies and interests you can talk about with a partner increases your chances by a lot. If you want to find a girlfriend then you should probably try to look for groups or things you're interested in, the best way to make friends and relationships is repetition, its why so many people get relationships through school or work, if you're meeting and talking to the same people everyday it is way more likely you will get a girlfriend. Now granted it is a shit ton easier for women because they do not have to approach, or plan a date, or really do any of the heavy lifting, as long as their sociable and nice someone will eventually come along and confess, but you also just gotta play the card you were dealt if you really want a girlfriend. Also one more thing it seems as though online dating is where incels come from, because everything incels say about women is true when it comes to dating apps. Bottom line is if you're not talking to that many women and the conversations do not last long on dating apps then I would just give up, they are just a speedrun to either make you hate women or demolish your self-esteem

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not him but I have so many hobbies I can't even remember them all
            But none of them are the type that would allow for meeting groups of people, nor would I want to anyway as I'm incredibly autistic

            >would you want to date a women who just sits at home all day
            That would be ideal
            I'm in like the top 3% of men, being white with green eyes, decent looks, and 6'4 but it seems like just because I can't talk to people in real life that I have no chance

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm in like the top 3% of men
            >I have never had a girlfriend because I never talk to girls
            Lmao.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm in like the top 3% of men
            >I'm incredibly autistic
            >I can't talk to people in real life

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yes a woman who sits at home all day CAN be fine but one who has no hobbies and just rotmaxxes is probably not ideal for most people, also having hobbies that do not allow you to meet women is fine, you can make it a routine to go to a cafe or library for example, just somewhere there are people, or if there are conventions for things you are interested in. Also yes you should learn to talk to people, if you cannot talk to people then I doubt you are going to be able to hold a conversation on a dating app and in general talking to women IRL will always produce better results. Talking to people is a skill you must work on as well, you wont just get charisma maxed out overnight, but I promise you if you are online dating ANYONE then they are talking to at least 10 other men, unless you are beating all those other men in terms of value and looks then you are fricked.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I can conversate fine online or when I meet someone I'm comfortable with but just taking to a stranger in real life is impossible
            And the type of woman I feel like I'd get along with well won't care how much charisma I have nor do they hang out in libraries

            Like I said I SHOULD be beating all those men online in terms of value and looks but it doesn't seem to have any impact at all

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >SHOULD be beating all those men online in terms of value
            >autistic
            >I can't talk to people in real life

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            so to you, you seem to think that you are a cut above the rest of the competition on dating apps, and yet you still continue to use them despite not having any success?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not to me, according to everyone else you just need to be tall and white to get women

            I use dating apps because there's no other options

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            if you want to minmax dating apps then take more pictures of yourself in public or with friends, I however dont think dating apps are your best option, its like shooting yourself in the foot trying to talk to women in any online space. If you really want to see how bad it is then set up a catfish account and put minimal effort into it, watch how many matches and conversations you get just by being a slightly attractive woman, I did this and got 30 intros in 3 days, its insane how much competition you have. I could try to give you better advice based on the type of woman you are trying to meet, but not like I have much luck with it either, talking to women feels like such a fricking chore anymore

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't have any friends
            And doing that would only attract normies which I'm not interested in

            The type I'd like are ones that act like old ladies I suppose, staying home, doing hobbies like knitting/crotchet, gardening or collecting antiques

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            have you tried looking for those kind of groups or such in your area? or communities around those groups, it sounds silly but it partaking in the activity yourself would help you meet women who like doing it, and you will have something to talk about with them so it makes talking to them that much easier

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I have many times, they simply don't exist
            And even then, it's going to be the wrong type of people I'm looking for that go to things like that

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Why can't someone just like me for me?
            As a man, most if not all interactions are transactional. People won't love, respect, or even acknowledge you as a human being unless you have something to offer. You HAVE to provide or you otherwise fail as a man. Only women, children, and pets get to be liked for themselves - men have to do something.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Why can't someone just like me for me
            no such thing in this world,all "love" is conditional,always has been

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Are you fun? Do you have used skills? Are yous social and do you engage in society?
      This is another thing. Every flaw listed here also applies to women, the difference is they don't suffer dating penalties for these flaws. We all have problems and shit we can or need to work on, but the thing about women is that they can be boring, have no personality, never go to the gym, have bad hygiene, be mean spirited, have no money, live at home, etc and still get tons of dick.

      These people try to make it seem as if you're some outlier or monster for having the same flaws that women have but never get called out for because men tolerate it. We are playing an entirely different game where 1 flaw can keep you a virgin for a long time.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Literally none of that is relevant. Whataboutism isnt useful. Focus on yourself.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This isn't whataboutism, it's necessary to understand why dating is so difficult for men. Men and women have flaws, but women aren't barred from having sex for having flaws, so it's a game where your opponent can't lose while you can. While you're bettering yourself alone and single to earn the right to have a gf, she's fricking and gaining experience and options.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women just have too many options because of Internet and social media. Every decent looking girl you talk to has 100 dicks on standby and they know it. The reason why so many men struggle is because every attempt requires them to be chosen out of at least 100 men.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Men have more options than ever because of Internet and social media. If you're a man and can't find a girl online then you're failing on easymode.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe true but thats just too grim and soulless. I'm not compatible with internet stuff.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what an absolute moron, here's another (you) for your ragebait

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    find a girl and be really creepy towards her, smell her even. It work for me.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The reality is, most guys simply have to wait until they get are a little older (starts around 30) before you can start looking for a woman for a serious relationship. You want women to be interested in you? You have to BE interesting. Being interesting only comes after you have life experiences which only comes with time.

    When you're 20, turning 30 sounds so far away but it really isn't.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But I don't want to be have my first relationship in my 30s and I don't want to be a creep with a girl a decade younger either.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You answer tells me you are the type of person that wants all the good things in life to come to him without actually working for it or being patient - it's no wonder women don't want to have a relationship with you.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Women have wanted relationships with me but it just didn't feel right
          I am a very patient diligent person so I'm not sure what you mean by that either

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the best relationships are like a decade age gap don't let harpies convince you that it's creepy

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If I'm going to have to wait until 30 to experience love, I will be dead before then

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It just grosses me out the idea that a woman is be interested in has had sex. I don't know why but it bothers me. I've tried to not think this way but I just can't. I just can't help but look around and wonder why everything's so fricked. I feel like I was groomed for a completely different world

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Back in what day?
    Were you there? Or are you just claiming its easier so you can feel more sorry for yourself.
    Dating has always been difficult and a crap shoot.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't tell if I can't settle down with my long term relationships because they're not white like me or I'm just too picky.

    There's some type of psychic block to me getting a white gf. I get so close, a touch, a kiss, literal "just the top" and poof she's gone like the sands of time. Black, Asians, they'll throw up flags for me to frick but white girls... What the frick?

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no fault divorce was a mistake.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did this chart account for population growth

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Population growth is irrelevant when you do percentages

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wealth inequality. Unironically if we raise taxes for the rich, you'll get laid.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its because men after graduating are forced into complete isolation the same as if they had killed someone

    schools and mutuals are the only possible way to ever get to speak to women and that's not possible outside of schools/friends

    you just need to quit your job and come back to school setting where conversations are possible again

    back in the day you needed someone to set you up and now you do as well
    nothing has changed at all

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You’re just a moron, that’s the real problem

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frick you anon.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not my fault you’re socially maladjusted. Maybe if you got off the internet and talked to people in real life instead of brooding with other losers on /NSFFW/ your life would improve.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In this thread OP has responded to very single piece of advice that is legitimate with "I domt know what you mean" when it doesnt affirm his worldview that hes entitled to pussy for no effort. Jannies just prune the thread

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seethe more. I read my thread, I just don't feel like responding.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are the only one seething dude

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is it so hard for the average guy to get a GF
    Tons of average guys with GFs.

    >What happened?
    What happened is you and many other guys complaining about dating think you are the average guy when you actually are not. Just bc you look average doesn't mean you're an average guy.

    The average guy is a normie and you guys aren't. Normies are well adjusted and possess the social skills required to make friends and get into relationships without much issue. They don't suffer from internet brainrot either.

    Moral of the story is become a normie or be forever alone.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Back in the day all you needed was a good paying job and maybe a personality
    And do you actually have either of these things?
    You MIGHT have the job, but you obviously don't have the personality. I can tell just from the fact you made this thread (and not for the first time, I might add...)

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm
    > disabled using forearm canes to walk + other medical issues
    > not working (but am trying to work and get off SSDI)
    > live with relatives

    and am dating this woman for 6 months seeing each other at least weekly to hang out and do bf/gf things. We're not official but honestly being FWB zoned isn't terrible. Met on Hinge. If my disabled ass can do it so can you.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >disabled
      I'm sorry to hear anon
      >using forearm canes to walk
      God for you not letting it get you down
      >am trying to work and get off SSDI
      Absolutely based trying to get out there and not be lazy and actually contribute. I am in the same boat with disability and I found a job and have had several girlfriends. I salute you for your perseverance.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        thank you anon and same to you. it's not easy but definitely possible.

        Hell for the period before I had my kidney transplant, slowly dying from stage 5 kidney failure I was able to get a girlfriend and do things with her. I ended it after 4 months for a bunch of reasons.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm happy to hear you aren't dying anymore anon. I also have kidney issues from being on lithium from a young age. I urinate about 25 liters a day and am constantly thirsty.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is what happens in liberal societies. Eventually hypergamy reaches insane levels.

    Before, marriage was more or less an exchange, some guy proves hes capable of having a stable income and being romantic or funny and some girl had to be well interesting, caring and pretty and it worked out.

    Nowadays women have higher education than men, are pushed through high-impact careers,and there are a bunch of systems put in place to push them forward. They get ahead of boys from the very early days in school. There is no threat, no war, so no need for protection either.
    So what happens when the average man is no long necessary to provide to her? She will filter you out through other means, eventually resorting to primal strategies by looking exclusively for the tallest, biggest, most popular male around, because you cant grind genetics.

    Then youll ask "ok but surely they have to settle down and compromise at some point?". That would be true if their options were limited to their town or region. But instantaneous communication coupled with safe and fast travelling capabilities allows them to extend their range of search tend folds.

    I always thought I was simply never going to get anyone. Then I worked my first job as an engineer in a tech company in UK. I met a bunch of Asians in english schools doing exchange or sabbatical years. In 6 months I had already fricked with 4 different girls and currently still dating one of them. The memes about Japan or China are 100% true, since women there are still living in relatively patriarchal societies. Things just flow naturally and by being a little assertive, grooming yourseld and having an interesting job , skills or hobbies is really all it takes. But its not gonna last forever now that everyone knows about the situation.

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