Why won't confidence make this guy attractive to women? What gives?

Why won't confidence make this guy attractive to women?
What gives?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Looks, looks and looks. Status helps but money can only bribe.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you have looks, you can accrue status. If you have looks and status, money will flow to you organically.

      If you have money without looks and status, you will never ascend beyond dehumanized betabuxx ATM.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Chalamet is average looking (see his chin).

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I always find it funny when some random ass incel tries to judge the attractiveness of people who are super fricking popular.
          You can just hear the seething through the monitor.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cope, women got the ick from Timothee Chalamet because of his jaw and chin

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >professional incel thinks he knows better than the millions of women who get a wet pussy looking at him
            Stay lonely.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most wealthy people are not good looking

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And they happen to mostly be dehumanized betabuxx ATM.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Most wealthy men are used as paypig wallet last resort relationships by bitter women who couldn't lock down tall handsome men.

          And you're engaging in fallacy anyway, because a higher proportion of attractive people are richer ACCOUNTING for all other variables. That is, two people held constant at everything but looks, the better looking one will earn more. In fact, a total mental moron who is tall and handsome will on average earn more than a social master of confidence high IQ hard work ethic man who is short. These are the facts of life, as per the settled science.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's not being confident the right way. It's fake confidence and women can smell it.
    If it was the real, correct type of confidence, women would be all over him.
    Prove me wrong...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nah i think it's true confidence, it's just not the kind of confidence that women care about. he's confident in his journey and his accomplishments, but that's not attractive. he's not confident in his looks. that's all that matters. even if he were confident in his looks though, others would probably think it was fake. normal people don't like mismatches when it comes to personality and physical appearance.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No true scotsman fallacy in action folks

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >No true scotsman fallacy in action folks

        I want to agree with you, but then I tried to picture the type of "confidence" this therapy-attending homosexual is probably showing, and what his "outgoing social interactions" probably look like.

        After "years of therapy", it's very likely that he interacts with people with an incredibly tepid, gay, emotion-free, "non-problematic", psychobabble filled carnival of homosexualry. He is probably incredibly boring and bloodless, and when he says "mindful" it almost certainly means that he overcame his anxiety by having no real emotions any more at all, by being the perfectly beige little homosexual all therapists want you to be.

        So everyone tolerates him now, because he doesn't bring any downside to any social environment. And he perceives that as people "liking his company". But no one is attracted to him, because he's even more beta than he was before.

        And that honestly isn't the type of confidence that women like. Women like the type of confidence that says you don't care about consequences and hold everyone around you in a kind of humorous contempt. Not the confidence that says "Hey I've been to years of therapy."

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >After "years of therapy", it's very likely that he interacts with people with an incredibly tepid, gay, emotion-free, "non-problematic", psychobabble filled carnival of homosexualry.
          well i could have told you that just by knowing hes a redditor

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >means that he overcame his anxiety by having no real emotions any more at all, by being the perfectly beige little homosexual all therapists want you to be.
          >So everyone tolerates him now, because he doesn't bring any downside to any social environment. And he perceives that as people "liking his company". But no one is attracted to him, because he's even more beta than he was before.
          But NSFFW and /adv/ told me that was the stoic, proper masculine way to behave in group settings and around women

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >boring and bloodless.

          You sound like an annoying homosexual anon.
          Being genuine and being kind which is the only traits worthy of anything in anyone that I spend time with and anyone I know would spend time with (regardless of sex) can often be boring and BlOoDlEsS. Being a meek one word answer sociopath who only cares about base needs and the dark triad ladder of status, materialism, control. That is a whole other matter. Far too many little shits like that out there.

          Be genuine, be brave, love yourself, do things worthy of loving yourself folks.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          long winded feminine neuroticism. you wrote too much to be correct. correct answers are always short.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      These the same women that can't sniff out the men who beat them and leave them single mothers LOL

      Women are not magical bloodhounds sniffing out any hint of weakness.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based. There's n! permutations of confidence, the OP just doesn't have the right flavor of it, otherwise he'd be getting them left and right.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's 5'8". The only sort of "confidence" that could help him is the dangerous sort that comes from knowing how to kill a man with your bare hands, and being in life or death scenarios and coming out on top. It's primal, and women can sense that. If he was 6 inches taller he wouldn't need that though.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >being confident

    I thought the trick was being yourself? He is doing it wrong.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just be a different person bro

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Real confidence and self esteem can only be attained through having sex.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1. He's expecting women to flirt or flirt back. Even if you're attractive, you still gotta break a woman down before she's all over you.

    2. You can be confident as hell, but having the willingness to try doesn't mean you will automatically learn. I like looking at Ranked LOL for examples of this: You can see some guy with 5000 ranked games that year with one champ, but he refuses to learn or change his habits. So he sits at Bronze 5, the fate he chose and worked his ass off for.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >1. He's expecting women to flirt or flirt back. Even if you're attractive, you still gotta break a woman down before she's all over you.
      anon what the frick are you talking about. its very obvious if a woman likes you

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's obvious when women like you.
        True, but this cold approaches, often times the first impression is when you're speaking to them for the first time. They don't even get a chance to decide.

        You also gotta remember that women are:
        >Stupid
        >Scared/Anxious
        >Brainwashed
        This means they don't know how to do simple things like flirt, they don't want to do hard things like flirt, they're told they're girlbosses and only "pick mes" flirt.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          well im sorry to be the one to tell you this but if if a woman is not obviously interested in you the more likely explanation is that she is just not interested in you

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah like I said, women are obvious. But you guys misread. You expect her to flirt back like a guy or a Hollywood movie, if women are interested, they'll give you the time of day and treat you like a human (if shes at work and you're a customer this method is more flimsy).

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, because of his status. Without any of the fame Chalamet would be an inkwell twink, permavirgin if he doesn't SEAmaxx.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You still have to be a little pushy if you want to get anything going, and I doubt that redditgay would have known any better.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is only one dating advice, out of the thousands of bs love coaches, pickup artirts, redpillers says, there is one,ONE, that actually works and its quite simple: only date people who likes you. Simple as that. If you follow this advice, you will evade most of life difficulties and suffering from dating. Its this and

        Nah like I said, women are obvious. But you guys misread. You expect her to flirt back like a guy or a Hollywood movie, if women are interested, they'll give you the time of day and treat you like a human (if shes at work and you're a customer this method is more flimsy).

        .
        Women make it obvious when they like you. They initiate conversation, you dont need to force it everytime. They talk about their interests reciprocally, you dont need to autistically monologue about your hobbies and she is just "yeah" at everything you say.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Best advice on NSFFW that I've ever seen. Most people are like that, in fact. If someone is generally interested in you, they will initiate and contribute to conversations

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yep. Its a good way to maintain friends as well. A lot of people go for "friends" that doesnt really like them and put up a lot of bs to people who treats them like dogs, talks shit behind back etc... In the world of relationships there should be no concessions: Be with someone who likes you, and dont accept anything different from this.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What if you have nothing to offer and need friends for social connections? Are you willing to live alone rather than have friends like that?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >What if you have nothing to offer
            This is such a transactional way to look at relationships. Do you think every friend in the world has something to offer to each other? How did you got friends in school? Talking and interacting is enough for a lot of people.
            >need friends for social connections?
            Then you are just using people as a tool to an end. You dont need to be friends with this people, there are words to use, like colleague, acquaintance or a familiar, not a true friend
            > Are you willing to live alone rather than have friends like that?
            Again, I dont need to be friends with them. If I need to know someone to get to know another person, I dont need to become a personal friend of them.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >This is such a transactional way to look at relationships. Do you think every friend in the world has something to offer to each other? How did you got friends in school? Talking and interacting is enough for a lot of people.
            The interaction is the transaction, people talking to each other is the transaction. If you didn't find the other person interesting enough to talk to, then you wouldn't talk to them in the first place.
            >Then you are just using people as a tool to an end. You dont need to be friends with this people, there are words to use, like colleague, acquaintance or a familiar, not a true friend
            True friends are difficult to afford and hard to come by. Even acquaintances are expensive.
            >Again, I dont need to be friends with them. If I need to know someone to get to know another person, I dont need to become a personal friend of them.
            It increases your chance of getting to know that person.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The interaction is the transaction, people talking to each other is the transaction.
            This is the point I made, but you put in better words. Talking and interacting is enough.
            >If you didn't find the other person interesting enough to talk to, then you wouldn't talk to them in the first place.
            Yes, and whats wrong with this and my argument?
            >True friends are difficult to afford and hard to come by. Even acquaintances are expensive.
            Yes, and this is the point of the discussion. Now its just a matter of opinion if its worth going after a true friend, or settling for less.
            >It increases your chance of getting to know that person.
            True, but again, I dont need to be friends with them.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >This is the point I made, but you put in better words. Talking and interacting is enough.
            Some people can't even afford to do this, is my point. Just look at NSFFW.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they have at the very least "enjoyable company" to offer someone. i don't have that. the only way i can avoid boring, annoying or weirding out people is to be completely silent and passive and only speak when spoken to, which to that degree bores the hell out of people

            Ok,now I understand. People here have a social skill issue. But the point of my advice still stands.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >How did you get friends in school
            Hahahahaahahahahahaha

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you're looking at this from a normie perspective

            you can probably have a happy fun lunchbreak or dinner party with a bunch of colleagues or acquaintances you know almost nothing about, or maybe even just met, cos nothing they do is likely to shock or confuse you and nothing you do is likely to shock or confuse them

            some people don't have that luxury

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are right, Im looking from a normie point of view, because this is the only point of view relevant. Talking through a autist schizo point of view doesnt achieve anything.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            do you really think i described an "autist schizo" up there

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I mean, what could "shock" or "confuse" a normie? What did you describe them?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i explained why i fix my work lunch the way i do, AFTER THEY ASKED, AND SEEMED INTERESTED. completely innocuous. but they were horrified, not cos there was anything wrong with it but just cos of the way i explained. i don't bring that lunch anymore. and i really liked it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well, youre telling your perspective of it. You might have come out as schizo just rambling bs.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            okay, maybe what i think makes perfect sense sounds schizo to everyone else. and maybe everyone else thinks grass is red. thing is, how exactly am i supposed to figure any of that out or do anything about it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Normies learned to socialize by copying what other normies do and by doing it constantly. Maybe the people you talked to were scum and its not your fault. Only you can know.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            let me ask you something. how do you suppose deaf kids learn to talk

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they have at the very least "enjoyable company" to offer someone. i don't have that. the only way i can avoid boring, annoying or weirding out people is to be completely silent and passive and only speak when spoken to, which to that degree bores the hell out of people

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is how you end up with BPD basket cases.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I mean, you can just refuse? lol, if a woman is to whorish for you, refuse them b***h.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not every girl who likes you or talk with you is romantically invested. You got friendzoned, simple as. Or you fricked up something else.

            >you should be doing X because it'll work
            >no!!!! just because you're doing exactly what I'm telling you to doesn't mean it'll work
            Stop being so disingenuous.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >>you should be doing X because it'll work
            What did I especifically say to do? If anything, my advice is a passive stance that you dont have to do anything, just hope someone will like you genuinily, and then hold that person.You people here want a formula, that if I do X, Y has to happen. I didnt mean anything like that. "Only go for women that likes you" , Is anyone going to say this is bad advice and actually present arguments?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >"Only go for women that likes you" , Is anyone going to say this is bad advice and actually present arguments?
            It's bad advice for people whom no woman likes.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If no woman likes them, then what are you losing? You would lose if you go after a woman for a year and she just doesnt care about you. Or when your uninterested gf cheats on with chad.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >what are you losing?
            You've stated right after that question that you'd lose if you didn't follow your advice for a case in which your advice is utterly useless. So the more apt question is: how would you win?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >if you didn't follow your advice for a case in which your advice is utterly useless
            It is made useless if you dont follow it. If you were chasing a girl for a year, and she doesnt care about you, its not that the advice is useless, its that you ran over the advice, making it useless. If you are with a gf that humiliates you everytime, fights you everyday, talks about her ex wiener all the time, the advice isnt useless, you made it useless by ignoring it. "She doesnt seem to like me, why should I care about her?" simple as that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you clinically moronic? Or merely 12 years old?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you just going to call me moronic or present an actual argument gay?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Are you just going to call me moronic
            No? I've already done that. Are you daft?
            >or present an actual argument
            No? Arguments are useless against inbreds like you since you can't even comprehend them.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            kys you fricknig stupid cuckold

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >if you don't simp ur a simp
            The absolute state of sub-0 IQ children

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can't follow an advice which tells you to only go for women who like you if there are none.

            Are you clinically moronic? Or merely 12 years old?

            People below a certain IQ fail to comprehend hypotheticals properly.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You can't follow an advice which tells you to only go for women who like you if there are none.
            If there are none, then... do nothing? The point is to minimize damage taking a passive instance.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >do nothing
            Why do you speak as if you had such expertise all this time but admit defeat when I bring up a very common situation in regards to your advice? From what I've seen in your previous posts, you are unfit to advise people on anything.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Why do you speak as if you had such expertise all this time
            Im giving an convicted opinion on what I think the best dating advice ever is, Im not pushing it as total truth.
            > but admit defeat when I bring up a very common situation in regards to your advice
            In what I admit defeat? Lets say a women doesnt like you,actually there are no women who likes you, what would you personally do in this situation? normies would say "nothing" or "try to improve" so be careful with your answer
            > From what I've seen in your previous posts, you are unfit to advise people on anything.
            Greentext what makes me "unfit" from previous posts

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Im giving an convicted opinion on what I think the best dating advice ever is
            And it's a shit advice considering it can be thwarted by a simple and common problem: situations where the advice is inapplicable.
            >what would you personally do in this situation?
            I don't know. You should tell me considering how enthusiastic you were at giving irrelevant and unwelcome advice.
            >Greentext what makes me "unfit" from previous posts
            All I need to do is quote your entire post

            >if you didn't follow your advice for a case in which your advice is utterly useless
            It is made useless if you dont follow it. If you were chasing a girl for a year, and she doesnt care about you, its not that the advice is useless, its that you ran over the advice, making it useless. If you are with a gf that humiliates you everytime, fights you everyday, talks about her ex wiener all the time, the advice isnt useless, you made it useless by ignoring it. "She doesnt seem to like me, why should I care about her?" simple as that.

            where you've misunderstood the entire premise that I presented.
            You state that the advice is useless if you don't follow it, yet I was arguing on the premise that many people have circumstances that prevents them from following said advice.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >situations where the advice is inapplicable
            Situations were (YOU) think the advice is inapplicable. homie this is the simplest advice in the world
            >Women naturally likes me: I go for them
            >Women doesnt like me: I do nothing

            What here isnt applicable? Its as simple as this.Yes, you are going to be alone if there are no women who likes you.Is there a better option than this?
            >I don't know.
            LMAO
            > yet I was arguing on the premise that many people have circumstances that prevents them from following said advice
            Ok, what is preventing you from following the advice, or anyone here for that matter? Is there someone holding you at gunpoint forcing you to date people that dont like you?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All you're doing is reframing a completely different instruction as part of your original advice, when it clearly isn't.
            It's as useful as telling someone to do something, then when someone tells you that your advice is inapplicable, you turn around and tell them
            >um actshually if you don't do what I say, then you'll find that I'm correct
            I've already made my point loud and clear before, therefore this post will be the last you'll hear from me.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >All you're doing is reframing a completely different instruction as part of your original advice, when it clearly isn't.

            The original advice: "Only go for woman who likes you"

            What I reframed from here? What is the "different instruction" from the original that I have said?
            >then when someone tells you that your advice is inapplicable
            Someone telling me "its inapplicable" doesnt make it . Then I ask: what about it is inapplicable?
            >>um actshually if you don't do what I say, then you'll find that I'm correct
            In what situation I said something like this?

            >Original Point: "Only go for women who likes you"
            >Conterpoint:"You can't follow an advice which tells you to only go for women who like you if there are none."
            >Answear to counterpoint: "If there are none, them dont do anything,STILL FOLLOWING the advice to ONLY GO FOR WOMAN WHO LIKES YOU"
            >Its inapplicable

            homie wat?
            >therefore this post will be the last you'll hear from me.
            ok, we both go to bed thinking we won the debate.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Have you tried having an IQ above 0? I heard it helps understand simple statements. I wouldn't know, I've never had that kind of problem before. But how about you just try and see?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            why, do only BPD basket cases like you

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Women make it obvious when they like you. They initiate conversation, you dont need to force it everytime. They talk about their interests reciprocally, you dont need to autistically monologue about your hobbies and she is just "yeah" at everything you say.
          All of this literally happened to me and I still got rejected. It's like god personally intervened at that moment. How do I fight against divine intervention?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not every girl who likes you or talk with you is romantically invested. You got friendzoned, simple as. Or you fricked up something else.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You can be confident as hell, but having the willingness to try doesn't mean you will automatically learn. I like looking at Ranked LOL for examples of this: You can see some guy with 5000 ranked games that year with one champ, but he refuses to learn or change his habits. So he sits at Bronze 5, the fate he chose and worked his ass off for.
      This means if you're not smart enough no amount of trying will get you beyond bronze 5. It's over for low IQers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I like looking at Ranked LOL for examples of this
      THIS homie RIGHT HERE WATCHES ASShomosexualS TO IMPROVE HAHAHAHA

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >self-improoover has egg on his face
    Like clockwork

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    another day another reddit thread
    into the trash it goes

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "waiting for flirty vibes" is not confidence lmao. he's an ex-omega beta male

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you have the goal in mind the process will not work. you flirt with women because it's fun and makes you happy, not cos you're trying to get in their pants

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Just be confident bro" is bad advice. What it actually means is be extremely extroverted and/or attractive.
    >B-buh I know... a big fat guy who is super confident and gets... le pussy!
    Great! For every big fat ugly guy who is swimming in pussy because he's "confident", there's a million more who are being called freaky incel spergs for talking to women out of turn. The harsh truth about reality is that the rich get richer in all things. Relationships, wealth, experience. The more you have, the more you will have.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Tfw no actual soulmate gf

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It means nothing. Just stop thinking women will ever be interested.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A boring confident guy is still a boring guy

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    confidence is knowing you are attractive, a "confident" unattractive man is delusional, not confident.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because he wasn't a big enough clown.

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