Women are actually 3x worse than you imagine.

1. Women only want Chad, this everyone already knows.

2. Not only do women want Chad, they want Chad to magically appear out of thin air and sweep her off her feet. They want the entire process to be completely effortless and to just happen. When they talk about "organic" relationships, that's the moronation they're talking about.

3. The majority of men get nothing because they're not Chad, yet women are getting mad at them for watching porn. They get nothing and they're not even allowed to watch porn apparently.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women will always cheat on you given the opportunity. Women want chad and 99.9% of anons are not chad

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    define chad, be so kind

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's gotta have money, be over 6ft, big dick, confident, preferably a gym rat, aura of a total chad

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I am not dating a chad then and I had crushes on other non-chads. I know other women who are not dating chads, so your theory is wrong

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >bullshit

          women will say they want a nerdy guy and it's still a 6ft2 chad just playing COD lmao

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I refuse to accept real life couples who do not consist of chads, therefore you are wrong
            you are simply delusional man, go out sometimes to see actual couples

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            most of those couples aren't real relationships though, since they're just betabuxx arangements where the woman's not actually into the man and is just using him for financial gain.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >go outside
            >it's all 6ft+ neurotypical sociopath chads with money getting laid

            shut up lmao

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I already said my bf is not a rich chad, so explain why I am with him

            not in my country I guess

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            tsmt, chads always win

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          complete horseshit

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Youre only settling, if chad gave you a chance youd cheat in a heartbeat

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I wont cheat on him, keep being delusional. I had a chance to meet my favourite singer and guess what, I didnt frick him

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What if the singer had started to flirt with you and invited you to his backstage room? Then you get there and turns out he only invited you. You're alone and he starts putting the moves on you. Of course you'd sleep with him.
            Your defense is that Chad didn't ask you to sleep with him so you obviously wouldn't cheat on your bf? Great, you didn't throw yourself at him like a rabid fan girl, congratulations. That's like me saying I don't care about money because I've been in a bank and didn't immediately try to steal a million dollars.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >crushes on other non-chads

          The crux of the issue is how "Chad" is defined. Even if the guys you crushed on weren't in the upper decile physically, there was still some kind of x-factor or passive attraction. They're still "Chad" in the sense that they didn't need to put in work or "maxx" anything to achieve a desired result.

          Incels will hyperbolize, but the root issue is that you just sort of get whatever the universe gives you. You can't meaningfully earn it through works and effort. Even if you could achieve a partner through works, it will never be genuine, since they value your utility, not you as a person.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I certainly didnt get anything on a silver plate, and I can assure you that me and my partner both value each other. There is nothing I could utilize him for, and he does not utilize me either. We are planning future together even though we know its gonna be difficult

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I can assure you that me and my partner both value each other.

            Was that the case the moment you met? Were you both wholly dedicated to each other at first sight, or was that something that was built up over time?

            You're ignoring what I've written. You need an initial spark. That initial spark is almost never something that is truly earned. You meet someone, feel some kind of attraction, hit it off, and escalate your commitment to each other over time. Just about everyone in a successful relationship can attest to the fact that they just kind of fell into it. They met the right person then the magic happened. Some people have traits that just aren't conducive to the magic.

            It feels magical when you're with him, yeah? He's special to you, right? What did he do to earn that? What earned trait does he have that all other men don't?

            I'm not disagreeing with you. Romantic success is not based on purely objective merit. Magical and emotional connections can be made. Problem is that magic can't be controlled for, it just happens.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We met on the internet where I didnt see his face at first, the dedication was built up over time. I wanted to see if he meant it seriously and he did, so I decided to commit to him.

            What if the singer had started to flirt with you and invited you to his backstage room? Then you get there and turns out he only invited you. You're alone and he starts putting the moves on you. Of course you'd sleep with him.
            Your defense is that Chad didn't ask you to sleep with him so you obviously wouldn't cheat on your bf? Great, you didn't throw yourself at him like a rabid fan girl, congratulations. That's like me saying I don't care about money because I've been in a bank and didn't immediately try to steal a million dollars.

            no I wouldnt frick him even if he invited me

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What was the x-factor that elevated him above the rest? Why give him that initial consideration over everyone else? All I'm saying is that there's gotta be a spark for there to be magic.

            Hopefully you're actually living in the same town now. Most internet relationships happen because of an imagined spark, which doesn't line up with who the person is in real life. Tread carefully.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            His dedication to commit to me

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just out of curiosity, was he initially the primary initiator? Like starting conversations trying to advance the relationship and so on?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, mostly him

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >trying to advance the relationship
            What does that even mean? Aren't you either in a relationship or not in a relationship? What's their to "advance?"

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Basically going from acquaintances to to a intimate relationship. My current guess on what actually predicts dating success for men, is just how much effort they put in to keep the woman around and make things progressively more intimate.

            Basically unlike people claim here, women aren't super picky for most attributes. They are just lazy or passive and want men to do all the courting.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, that's pretty much correct. What do you mean by "effort," though?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Finding reasons to initiate social interaction, making sure the woman is engaged and entertained when around you, keeping the conversation going even when the woman barely tries to or planning dates
            Basically as the man you try to do everything to keep her engaged with you, until she becomes attached.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's all sorta true but be aware, you're entering into the territory of "only certain women" lol. The bad ones, btw

            >Basically as the man you try to do everything to keep her engaged with you, until she becomes attached.
            Yeahhh except it's not that she becomes attached, it's something else, something more sinister

            But then again, sometimes they're just normal girls and it all works out fine

            I think it's best not to really think about it and to just uhh.. be yourself. Unless you're just trying to get pussy then that's a whole other story

            If a 10/10 girl tried to sweep me off my feet, I'd probably be super flattered and fantasize about it for years, but I'd have enough braincells to know she's likely not being genuine and just making fun of me, and if she's genuine, would likely fall out of love soon after realizing my personality doesn't just dry pussy, but fricking dehydrate it completely, I also don't make a lot of money and only get tendiebux from my parents, with whom I live.
            She'd have to be straight up moronic to throw herself at me, that is if she somehow even discovers me since I'm a shut-in.

            Are you nice?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well everything varies depending on the person to some extent. I'm speaking in generalities.

            Also what if myself is someone who is not very social but driven and wants a partner that's my equal?

            If I act like myself, like I have in the past I'm not attracting women because I don't want to treat them like a prize I need to earn?

            I always hear women claim that they want to be treated like a person first, which is something I would want to do anyway. But it's not compatible with also wanting to be treated like a prize. I don't put in effort to become liked by men. It just happens. But for women I have to go out of my way to earn their affection.

            The only motivator that is strong enough to want to put in that one sided effort is desire for sex. Which then leads to exactly the people who don't care about the woman's personality to try the hardest to get with them.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            (not the person you're replying to)
            Women need to act like prizes. Their entire life could be ruined if they don't pick the right one.
            Child, divorce and it is over, never going to get another chance at love. It is a pure cope.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And just like I said. Acting like that only filters people who don't think sex is worth all the hassle and select's more for people who care great about it. It's absolutely counter productive. Otherwise we wouldn't have so many women claim dating sucks for them because they only get used for sex. The current approach is obviously not working, but women are the ones that set the standards for what works in dating.

            If you don't want to get with a shit man learn to analyze people and their motivations. Become a person that can genuinely be liked for your personality, and be more proactive in searching and selecting for men.

            Being a passive trophy is just lazy, cowardly and a remnant of the past. It has no upsides for finding a good mate. You don't need to stop being selective, I'd argue both men and women should be selective, just stop being inactive.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you don't think I am worth time for acting coy and pretentious, that's fine. I personally don't use online dating or any sort of hookup degeneracy and have the looks to defend my standards.
            I get what I want because I am firm and want someone firm or at least an average man who wil do anything for me.
            A high standard protects you from low quality experiences, cope or not and ugly men do just as much stupid, annoying nonsense as chads.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You didn't address anything I said so I'm assuming you are illiterate, moronic or responding to the wrong message. If you want a man that does everything for you, being a pretty princess will never ever get you that. That stuff is earned through mutual effort.

            And just like I said. Acting like that only filters people who don't think sex is worth all the hassle and select's more for people who care great about it. It's absolutely counter productive. Otherwise we wouldn't have so many women claim dating sucks for them because they only get used for sex. The current approach is obviously not working, but women are the ones that set the standards for what works in dating.

            If you don't want to get with a shit man learn to analyze people and their motivations. Become a person that can genuinely be liked for your personality, and be more proactive in searching and selecting for men.

            Being a passive trophy is just lazy, cowardly and a remnant of the past. It has no upsides for finding a good mate. You don't need to stop being selective, I'd argue both men and women should be selective, just stop being inactive.

            I think a lot of women are just genuinely socially moronic. A lot of men are too of course, but it's women who need to be skilled at filtering so it's worse for them.
            Also yeah I'm basically just trying to maximize my visibility at this point. I'd still rather stay forever single than date a woman I don't genuinely want for her personality.

            I like to point out hypocrisy mostly or make racial remarks. I don't like insulting character, I wouldn't date someone with obvious flaws like that.
            [...]
            >height
            I am 5'3 and would rather be at least 5'10. I have a severe hatred for my height because it is linked with subhuman roman genes.
            >1 bodycount
            I loved him for almost 3 years and we did a lot of stuff. Period blood stuff mostly but I drew the line at anal. I don't date gays.

            Sounds cool, I think I mostly banter over taste or competence in games with people. Attacking character is iffy unless you know the person really well to avoid attacking something they feel bad about.
            Though the rare times that I get into genuine arguments are also somehow fun for me.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The second block in my post was meant for

            >If I act like myself, like I have in the past I'm not attracting women because I don't want to treat them like a prize I need to earn?
            You'd be better off treating them like uhh.. your equal. Treat them like your friend, or best friend I guess. Best friend that you frick though, of course

            >I don't put in effort to become liked by men. It just happens. But for women I have to go out of my way to earn their affection.
            Well I'd imagine you put in some sort of effort with dudes but yeah, I think I understand. That's the way it is supposed to be with women too

            >The only motivator that is strong enough to want to put in that one sided effort is desire for sex. Which then leads to exactly the people who don't care about the woman's personality to try the hardest to get with them.
            Right, and I kinda think that women are aware of that, and all of this shit is their bizarre way of being able to frick dudes without ever getting into anything serious, if you know what I mean? Like, these b***hes just want dick, but they can't say that, because they're "supposed" to want relationships right? So how do they work around that? They go for those dudes that you're talking about, that play the games and shit, because they know it's bullshit but all they want is dick so that's fine

            That's my theory at least. You don't want these women anyway, they're completely moronic and out of their fricking minds and insanely selfish

            So, I'd say that you should keep acting like yourself, just increase the number of women you talk to (painful advice for those of us who aren't very social)

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If I act like myself, like I have in the past I'm not attracting women because I don't want to treat them like a prize I need to earn?
            You'd be better off treating them like uhh.. your equal. Treat them like your friend, or best friend I guess. Best friend that you frick though, of course

            >I don't put in effort to become liked by men. It just happens. But for women I have to go out of my way to earn their affection.
            Well I'd imagine you put in some sort of effort with dudes but yeah, I think I understand. That's the way it is supposed to be with women too

            >The only motivator that is strong enough to want to put in that one sided effort is desire for sex. Which then leads to exactly the people who don't care about the woman's personality to try the hardest to get with them.
            Right, and I kinda think that women are aware of that, and all of this shit is their bizarre way of being able to frick dudes without ever getting into anything serious, if you know what I mean? Like, these b***hes just want dick, but they can't say that, because they're "supposed" to want relationships right? So how do they work around that? They go for those dudes that you're talking about, that play the games and shit, because they know it's bullshit but all they want is dick so that's fine

            That's my theory at least. You don't want these women anyway, they're completely moronic and out of their fricking minds and insanely selfish

            So, I'd say that you should keep acting like yourself, just increase the number of women you talk to (painful advice for those of us who aren't very social)

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Everyone wants an attractive partner to some extent. People are taking that basic fact and combine it with womens pickiness in dating apps as proof that women only want Chad.

          In reality I think the problem is that women largely still put no effort into approaching, while men are dissuaded from doing so.

          This is extra bad for introverted men with small social circles. But men that are very social, publicly visible or just keep approaching women probably have no issues. Additionally there are a lot of hobby spaces that are only full of men, making it hard to naturally form connections with women.

          So from the perspective of a introverted guy it looks like women are absolutely not accessible, you can't naturally form a relationship anymore, they won't even look at you on dating apps, and they tend to get with extroverted famous or successful men even though they often treat them badly.

          I don't think the current state benefits women much either though, because the people who will approach and initiate on random women they just met are almost certainly only driven by desire for sex.

          I never had interest in casual sex and hoped I'd find someone I'd like. But by now I basically feel forced to initiate conversation with as many women as I can just for a chance, even though I am really not very talkative.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Let me guess, the guy you're dating fits every one of those criteria except one? Probably the money part.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if you mean me

          I am not dating a chad then and I had crushes on other non-chads. I know other women who are not dating chads, so your theory is wrong

          my bf is under 6ft, not rich, not a gym rat and I didnt know how his dick looked like when I agreed to date him

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I didnt know how his dick looked like when I agreed to date him
            How big is his dick though?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I didnt know how his dick looked like when I agreed to date him
            Right, but women will just dump you or cheat if your dick is too small. Obviously they can't immediately know before they decide to go out with a guy.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well, let's be honest here.
    Don't you want a 10 outta 10 girl to come sweep you off your feet and shower you with affection?
    I know I do.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, because I'm not a delusional moron.

      What prompted the thread actually is that while I wouldn't call myself a Chad, I am a 666 guy that women want. And yet they expect me to effortlessly sweep them off their feet. If there are any logistical concerns or hiccups at all, instead of being an adult with a basic functioning brain that realizes that that's life, women think it must not be working out because Chad should just make it happen seamlessly and organically.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If a 10/10 girl tried to sweep me off my feet, I'd probably be super flattered and fantasize about it for years, but I'd have enough braincells to know she's likely not being genuine and just making fun of me, and if she's genuine, would likely fall out of love soon after realizing my personality doesn't just dry pussy, but fricking dehydrate it completely, I also don't make a lot of money and only get tendiebux from my parents, with whom I live.
      She'd have to be straight up moronic to throw herself at me, that is if she somehow even discovers me since I'm a shut-in.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's even worse than that, OP. They only want Chad until they have him. Once they've got him, they get bored and treat him like shit and frick him over too

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >1. Women only want Chad, this everyone already knows.
    Why do you lie on the internet, gay psyopper?

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    forced montage
    no stalking
    metaphysical nihilism wrong
    *sees happy e couple and seethes*

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want that, but the other way around.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >1. Women only want Chad, this everyone already knows.
    homie im 5'4", im a blackcel, and i look like a leather wallet put through a wood chipper, and i managed to get a girlfriend, you got no excuse, im pretty sure my only redeeming feature is my slightly bigger than average dick, and since she is tiny, she thinks it is enormous, but its not like she knew how big my dick before we started dating

    >2. Not only do women want Chad, they want Chad to magically appear out of thin air and sweep her off her feet. They want the entire process to be completely effortless and to just happen. When they talk about "organic" relationships, that's the moronation they're talking about.
    ok this part is true, and when they do actually attempt to chase after a guy, it is usually random feeble attempts to stare at him from across 13 fricking rooms, and then say "his loss" when he doesnt get her "hints"

    >3. The majority of men get nothing because they're not Chad, yet women are getting mad at them for watching porn. They get nothing and they're not even allowed to watch porn apparently.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but its not like she knew how big my dick before we started dating
      Uhh, you are black, aren't you, anon?

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah why wouldn't we want that? If we have one bodycount we're ran through. Obviously the majority of us are waiting for our prince.
    You caused this moronation.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you're a virgin, then the OP doesn't apply to you. Most girls have a 50 body count.

      What are the attributes you want in your prince btw?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If she has a count of 50 then her standards cannot be that high if they really are chad standards, even one offs with a chad would be basically impossible (according to OP anyways)
        I have one bodycount btw but I'll answer anyways:
        He has to be pretty, like me if I was a man. He has to do skincare and have long eyelashes, long/ very thick hair and basically be me but stronger and maybe an inch taller.
        Personality tho, he has to be playful, I love making jabs at people. I want him to also and be able to take some jokes. And he has to be great in bed. I am not doing yoga as a hobby, I am pulling my weight too.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What levels of jabs are we talking?
          Because I very much enjoy talking trash or even getting into fights, because I don't take it personally and can cool down fast. But I feel like most people very much don't like that.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I like to point out hypocrisy mostly or make racial remarks. I don't like insulting character, I wouldn't date someone with obvious flaws like that.

            If you're going to say an inch taller, you should say your own height silly.

            Also, this is a good thing that you don't know but how would you know what good in bed is if you're only at 1?

            >height
            I am 5'3 and would rather be at least 5'10. I have a severe hatred for my height because it is linked with subhuman roman genes.
            >1 bodycount
            I loved him for almost 3 years and we did a lot of stuff. Period blood stuff mostly but I drew the line at anal. I don't date gays.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Roman as in you're in Italy or are you an Amerimutt NJ Guido?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            As in I look like those classical statues to a T but have pale skin and blue eyes.
            Oh and I am racially biased also, I want those roman genes bleached out of me. Only pale men can save my ass.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pale as in euro or just straight up pale.

            If it's straight up pale, I can help you out as an Asian guy. 6'2 so can undo your shortness genes a little bit.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Tall is cool but I like my race and stuff more. I see a white man who fricks asians the same as a mudshark and vice versa.
            I'd rather not procreate if my children can't have blue eyes for sure but I would be too mentally ill anyways. No healthy person uses this site.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you're going to say an inch taller, you should say your own height silly.

          Also, this is a good thing that you don't know but how would you know what good in bed is if you're only at 1?

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >When they talk about "organic" relationships, that's the moronation they're talking about.
    this is probably the most loathsome thing about women.
    It's not enough they want Chad, that's understandable. Supply and demand, and so forth.
    It's that they will spew irrationalities and insanity and then it's your fault if you disagree. If you disagree, then that means you are part of the problem. Everything wrong with women flows from this root.
    Simply because you can't reason with the unreasonable.

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