yes, you're OWED sex

in a relationship, men have their wants and needs and women have their wants and needs. imo, if there is a man that's satisfying a woman's wants/needs (caring about them, listening to their problems, making them laugh) then she is obligated to satisfy a man's wants and needs back. it shouldn't be forced, but it is owed in the sense that everything is a give and take and if you take you have to give. why should women get what they want fulfilled and when men want what they want fulfilled be refused? that isn't fair.

for example: say there is a guy that's been talking to a girl for a few months, discussing all her problems with her, making her laugh and showing interest in her. in this case, the women owes the man sexual satisfaction at LEAST once. why should women get their wants/needs fulfilled in the relationship while the man gets nothing back?

this does not apply to men that don't put the work in of listening to, being nice, etc with women and just expect sex without working for it. but if a man does work for it he is owed it. however society will tell you that the women owes you nothing no matter what the case or what you do for her. i think that's bullshit.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    my girlfriend sucks at sex and cannot make me cum. I can make her cum easily with very little effort.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That still sounds like a win

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      have you tried teaching her? maybe she's just too inexperienced or tell her what you like and see if she cooperates.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >imo, if there is a man that's satisfying a woman's wants/needs (caring about them, listening to their problems, making them laugh) then she is obligated to satisfy a man's wants and needs back

    would this also apply to society as a whole?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      in what way do you mean to society as a whole? i'm talking about what's fair in individual relationships here.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >in what way do you mean to society as a whole?
        i mean like, men built society to meet woman's needs

        her needs to have security from violence, her needs of having nice houses and electronics, her needs of having laws that respect her and giving her mandatory employment in desireable positions, etc

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nah i don't think that women owe men for building society. i mean, they should be grateful and understand the value of men for building society and not demean us (like is done in our current media/culture). but i don't really believe in the grandfather principle, that since our ancestors built and created stuff, the success of our ancestors should be given thanks to those ancestors current living descendants. like, the sins of our fathers should not be visited upon by the son, nor should the achievements of the father.

          what our ancestors did to create and do all this good stuff is good, but we ourselves didn't do it, so we shouldnt expect to be given thanks just cause we were born as the descendants of greater and more intelligent people.

          idk if im wording this correctly, but to put it simply: i don't believe the sins of our ancestors should be paid by the descendants, nor should the accomplishments of our ancestors be thanked by the descendants. people should be judged and thanked or penalized based on their own individual worth/value

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >our ancestors built and created stuff, the success of our ancestors should be given thanks to those ancestors current living descendants
            anon this is braindead, civilization doesn't just continue existing after your grandpa builds it it takes constant upkeep and it has always been 100% men doing that. and anyway when a foid does netflix and chill your grandpa sure as shit didn't build the 4k tv or CDN she's using and she's not drinking a vintage he bottled.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The social contract states a man who works and pays taxes deserves a wife, home, and family of their own. If this contract is broken, the regime is illegetimate.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >it shouldn't be forced, but it is owed in the sense that everything is a give and take and if you take you have to give.

    hey mr moralizing anon with hot moral takes, what do you think about how we treat animals?

    it doesnt seem like "everything is give and take" when we just exploit and kill these aniamls, and we get all the benefit, and they get all the suffering and death

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you're trying to contradict the wrong person here because i believe in the morals/ethics of veganism. eating meat, and the meat production industry as a whole is horrible. us eating meat is morally wrong. what we do when we eat meat is a "might makes right" sort of thing. the animals can't fight back so we just do what we want to them because we can. but that's not what's morally right. i personally think it would be morally right for everyone to become vegan until we can come up with ethical ways to produce meat without harming sentient animals.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        well... damn!
        i have nothing to say to you! haha

        but id like to know what you think of my post here

        >in what way do you mean to society as a whole?
        i mean like, men built society to meet woman's needs

        her needs to have security from violence, her needs of having nice houses and electronics, her needs of having laws that respect her and giving her mandatory employment in desireable positions, etc

        it would seem to me that men do most of the real work in society, and that women do most of the profiting from it
        its men who die from work place accidents, who die in wars, who do all the blue collar work that actually builds stuff, and yet we categorically are told we are not entitled to sex

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nah i mean like, they should be appreciated, but i don't think they should be entitled to sex just cause they work more dangerous or more hard jobs or w/e.. i mean like, i see your point, but i think you need to actual put effort into women to be owed them. i don't know about you putting effort into work that benefits society/women and then being owed sex because of that. it's just too distant of a connection. like i don't see a situation where a women is just forced to have sex with a guy he doesn't know, who's done nothing with her, just cause he's a construction worker that helps build society. that just doesn't seem right to me.

          my thing is you're owed sex if you give a woman what she wants in a relationship, she should have to give what you want in the relationship back. tit for tat sort of thing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The give and take with animals is they live better lives than most humans and have all their needs met. They only ever have one bad day, if you could even call it that. Then they meet our nutritional needs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As a vegan for 5+ years, consider time and place.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I read this in Shreks voice

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so did I kek. I need to find an ai voiceover this.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes, you're OWED a big catch
    in a lake, fishermen have their wants and needs, and fish have their wants and need. imo, if there is a man that's satisfying a fish's wants/needs (putting yummy worm on the hook, sprinkling some bait in the water, driving out in the middle of the lake to find them) then they are obligated to satisfy a fisherman's wants and needs back by getting caught on the hook and letting me reel them in. It just isn't fair! Doesn't the fish know I only am doing these nice things for it because I want to hook it, catch it, and fry it on my grill? Selfish

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Funny how you have to reduce women to just fish men are trying to bait. And comparing nice things men do for women to just being bait to get them to have sex with them.

      When I say owed I mean its grounds for ending the relationship. If a man is doing everything necessary to satisfy a woman in the relationship and the women isn't doing what's necessary to satisfy the man back, its grounds to end the relationship period. Women see that as childish and that they shouldn't have to pay sex towards men, and if they leave the relationship because they aren't bring sexually satisfied they see men as childish for that. I think that its fair for the man to leave

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean yeah. You don't feel satisfied in a relationship? Then you have the right to leave. It is that simple. I'm a woman, I don't see that as childish, just different people have different needs and wants in life. Women leave men because they weren't feeling sexuality satisfied. I don't understand the point of this post because I don't think a single person would say it's wrong to leave a relationship you weren't satisfied with, and the other person had no plans of satisfying you

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          To say you're owed sex if you don't want men to leave you. Some women disagree with this. Also you aren't A woman. There are no women on this board. Kys troon

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I hate troons, disgusting sex perverts who think the definition of being a woman is being a sex object.

            You shouldn't say "You owe me sex" or "Women owe me sex" like that's moronic, don't say that. If this is an issue with your girlfriend say "I do my best to satisfy your needs and wants, I just want you to do the same towards me. I understand there are certain days and times in which you can't be intimate with me, but you very rarely ever want to be together with me. I just want to be close with the woman that I love. If there is something I can do to make the times we are intimate with each other more pleasurable to you, let me know"
            Saying something like that, there is no way a woman could call you immature, it makes her seem like the dickhead. Women are able to get away with victimizing themselves a lot because they know how to actually express themselves. They can frame any issue towards themselves rather than saying it bluntly as you would say "You don't have sex with me enough". Learning how to frame your point can be very beneficial

            Also, being blunt and saying something like "You owe me sex" would make a woman think you are just after her sexually, that the only reason you do anything for her is to get in her pants, that you see her as an object. It's easy to misunderstand that when you mean "you owe me sex", you are trying to say "I feel like you don't bother to fulfill my needs and wants, when I fulfill all of yours. I just wish you cared about me enough to wish to satisfy me, like I do you"

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not a matter of massaging your framing to avoid triggers, even though women are illogical and react emotionally. The fact is this is determined a priori. If she is (still) sexually attracted she will frick you, if not she won't. She MAY have been fricking you transactionally but then you have to actually withhold what she wants. All this bending over backwards with womanspeak / therapist talk will just make you look onions. She will still find a way to twist it and play victim if she is not interested in fricking you. You need to rekindle the attraction and that means being rapey not this shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        so long as you have made clear that she's sexually underperforming then you are justified in cheating or leaving if she doesn't pick it up

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But who's going to enforce that lol? In a relationship, if you feel like you're not having enough sex, tell her you want to have sex more often. If she refuses, get rid of her and find someone else. It's that simple.
    Talking about being "owed it" when it's a mutually enjoyable activity is stupid anyway. It's not something a woman "gives" to a man

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't mean owed as in it should be legally forced. I mean owed in what's fair. If it isn't satisfied its grounds for leaving the relationship. But women call that a childish reason to leave a relationship. I think its fair reason to

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes it is. And I don't have to have sex with you at all

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If a woman says that she wants to has sex now, then I would be the one "giving" it to her no?
        inb4
        >But I would never say that
        Then I would never be in a relationship with you in the first place. we aren't sexually compatible

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For the millionth time, women can't be argued at with logic.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Absolutely. In a relationship, even more so.
    Dead bedroom relationships should end. Completely unacceptable.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Go frick a escort. What kind of animal needs sex 5 times a day. When I'm working more hours then you.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >if there is a man that's satisfying a woman's wants/needs (caring about them, listening to their problems, making them laugh) then she is obligated to satisfy a man's wants and needs back.
    This simple concept suddenly became incomprehensible to my most recent ex.
    Being with you is now all cons and zero pros compared to just being single, so bye b***h.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care, any woman love me (frick).

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sex isnt a real want or need stupid moid you have been brainwashed by pornisraelites

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Very weak b8, not even worth a (You)

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stop being an anxious wreck and communicate your wants, needs, and ideas as soon as possible. You can't work and hear women talk only to one day say, "Okay, sex time", and expect sympathy. Communicate early on what you expect to offer and receive from the exchange, discuss both parties' strengths, weaknesses, and boundaries, see if you can find any compromises or middle-grounds, and don't force anything or make sudden changes.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the example was me but a year instead of a few months. i made it a point to never push or pressure her for sex because i loved her and wanted it to be a natural thing, no matter how long it took. never happened and she fell out of love. if i would've pushed for it and been disrespectful with her boundaries, we would have fricked a few months into the relationship and we would still be together. i don't think women owe sex, but it hurts when they decide that you're not good enough for it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Men are supposed to initiate sex. If you don't frick them they either think they're ugly or convince themselves you're gay or less virile to protect their ego. Notice how after sex they're less b***hy but if you go a couple days without she'll start fights or act petty for no reason. That's her way of saying I need to get fricked. Doesn't even take words. If you start kissing and grabbing she instinctually knows what is about to happen. Relationships have give and take, sex is a take part.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah i realize that now. i was stupid for thinking this woman would accurately state her actual boundaries. i fricking hate this fricking c**t.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          not your problem. i'm not interested in fricking any women that aren't begging me for it, if i have to borderline force myself on her it's not worth the trouble and i'll frick somebody who actually likes me instead.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This discussion went from sexual entitlement to veganism to anti-transgender propaganda. Next on the agenda is discussing FOSS and the copyleft movement. A woman who doesn't respect her privacy and uses closed-source software is a thot.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So, how did your mom respond when you told her that?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP: "Hey, mom. I know society gaslighted you into thinking you're nice enough providing me a house at 25 years old, but it's simply not enough. Tsk tsk tsk... bad mommy. Hop on my lap and make me pizza rolls."
      Mom: "Yes, sweetie. Anything for you, dear."

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women are naturally evil and selfish creatures. They want a walking atm that they can use for an emotional sponge.

    But forbid you have needs in return

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >say there is a guy that's been talking to a girl for a few months, discussing all her problems with her, making her laugh and showing interest in her. in this case, the women owes the man sexual satisfaction at LEAST once
    In this case I would say the guy is a moron for putting up with it for more than a week or two, that's on him.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >this does not apply to men that don't put the work in of listening to, being nice, etc with women and just expect sex without working for it.
    >he doesn't know about the chad meme

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