Okay but how much of those 77% of women actually want a relationship though? Sounds to me they just want to be approached because they feel insecure when they don't feel desired by men. So which is it? Because they want relationship? Or so they could go around telling their female friends how many men they turned down laughing and giggling.
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77% of men want to approach women, doesn't mean they always want it to automatically end in a relationship
Do you get paid to be this stupid?
I was being serious. 77% of people are open to talking to people of the other sex, the rest is making threads on the wrong board about how it isn't working for them. For every guy who feels like women are avoiding him, there's a girl who feels like men are ignoring her.
I don't think men want to approach anymore, nor do they want to date.
Though I can only speak for myself.
The current social/economical climate doesn't facilitate relationships, or families in general.
It's not something that's getting fixed by more men approaching women.
I don't want to approach women anymore either. It's rarely rewarding, and generally I just don't want anything from them to begin with. The only meaningful social courtesy you can offer someone now is the right of free association, which is most cases just means minding your own business and leaving other people alone.
Who gives a shit what women want?
They made this bed, they will lie in it.
Why don't women want to approach men
It's such a turn off and hassle when a girl is clearly interested but they just wait passively for you to approach them and get annoyed if you don't
They're intentionally weeding out the betas with low confidence
They want to be approached by Chad, not by (You).
FPBP
I don't think you know what that means
Correct. In fact, the top 5-20% of men (ie. "Chads") are now having more sex than ever before.
Data was drawn to assess trends in sexual behavior from the 2002 and 2011–2013 National Survey of Family Growth, a US household survey focusing on sexual and reproductive health.
Researchers found that compared to 2002, men overall had the same number of partners in 2013. However, the top 20% of men had a 25% increase in sexual partners. The top 5% of men had an even more dramatic 38% increase in the number of sexual partners.
Thus while the amount of male sex that was had was unchanged, more of the sex was consolidated into extra sex for the top 5-20% of men (ie. "Chads"). Thus it is clear that the most attractive men are truly having more sex than ever before.
How many partners have the top 5% of men had?
This, this, this, a trillion times this. Infinitely this. Endlessly this. NONE of these fricking studies ever ask the question of "who by", because I bet even dishonest self-reporting would reveal it.
Insecure women (most women and people generally these days) want to be approached, whether they're interested or not. It's not just about finding someone, nor is it just about getting attention: it's also about feeling a sense of control. It's about the ability to say no.
yeah in school setting or through friends
none of them even imagined this question includes complete strangers out on the street
women are not capable of speaking outside of 2 settings (school and mutuals) and there's nothing to say to them there, that cannot be done biologically
Also this is a sociological study. no reason for you to treat it with any amount of seriousness, you can make a study like that shows 100% of human population jerked off to horses you just need to do it on /mlp/
You can make any study that shows anything you want. It's not physics, it's not math, it's not chemistry. it cannot be measured or observed, it's closer described as a religious prayer than a "study" it has no bearing or reflection on real physical world, it's make believe.
These same studies with the same techniques can be used to prove angels and ashuras and ghosts exist.
If I made a poll with bunch of old mexican ladies who all firmly believe in ghosts that says
>88% chance ghosts exist
would you now believe that it's true and that there are ghosts everywhere?
Because if you believe this study, then you must do that.
This study is the same. it's not an actual study where people harass strangers, they just asked some girls on uni campus in a nice classroom for this paper they were writing together, most likely conducted by other women as well so the thought of a man speaking to them outside friends or school never came into their head since they are biologically not able to speak like that because of their inherent autism
This is a very socially moronic question. Women who are human beings who want essentially the same stuff as you. They've been socially conditioned to behave in a different way, wearing tight jeans, putting on makeup, etc. Testosterone makes people more aggressive and sexually ready so women might be a bit less extreme in those areas, but don't get fixated on that because that will likely also confuse you.
Acktually, 93% of women preferred being asked out on a date rather than doing the asking.
Mills et al. (2011) conducted a survey in which they asked N = 87 women and men whether they would prefer to be asked out over doing the asking. Despite greater gender equality, they found 93% of women and 16% of men answered positively. This corresponds to a sex difference of roughly d = 2.5, which is a huge difference. This allows women to blame the entire relationship on men, and hence allows them to evade any responsibility and makes it easier to choose and quash unwanted sexual approaches. Women's love style is more passive which women can afford because men have a greater sex drive, and women also appear to have an innate and childish expectation that the world and resources are handed to them. This allows women to date up because men have fewer options available to them and are hence more likely to make compromises (Baumeister 2004).
>Baumeister 2004
googled this and nothing like you said came up
Here are the references:
-Mills M, Janiszewska A, Zabala L. 2011. Sex differences in making risky first time relationship initiatives. A poster presented at the Western Psychological Association Meeting, April 2011.
-Mills M. 2011. Why Don't Women Ask Men Out on First Dates? Despite greater equality, women still don't ask. Why? [Article]
-Baumeister RF, Vohs KD. 2004 Sexual economics: Sex as female resource for social exchange in heterosexual interactions. Personality and Social Psychology Review. 8(4):339-63.
Was this from the date psych guy? Don’t trust it, it’s literally data he got from a poll on his Twitter, he is full of shit.
Focusing so much on trivial special effects of life is pointless and not very vossian thinking of you op
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I don't give a shit anymore. Frick these prostitutes.
this is a propaganda narrative promoted by federal agencies to groom incel terrorists. it is not reality.
One of the biggest rule of life:
>Ignore women, they don't know what they want and when asked they lie.
yes anon it is absolutely one or the other
the hundreds of women all want to be approached for the exact same reason
holy frick it sometimes baffles me inhuman some of you seem to view women
theyre all independent entities with different desires. some of them want that for a relationship, some want the confidence boost, some maybe just want to frick
i dont know why you'd even need to ask this question
Shut up b***h, it's the first if he's attractive, the second if he's not.
breaking news: people want to date people theyre attracted to
would you want a woman you're not attracted to approach you and then date her?? you aren't making any point here
Yes, and I have. Every girl I've ever dated was unattractive and approached me first. 3 gfs.
Right, but if a woman I'm not attracted to approaches me I'm not going act like she's a horrible person for doing so.
>want to be approached
By Chad.
Ftfy.
By Chad.
Not reading anything else there. Goodbye.
They have many different reasons, including the ones you mentioned.
I doubt that relationship is the primary reason among the women who want to be approached.
Some of them have malicious reasons too, like wanting to use the opportunity for a false allegation for attention or for blackmailing.
It is impossible to know on an individual level why a woman wants to be approached unless you approach them to find out.
There are two problems with this, though:
1. It is impossible to know if a woman you want to approach is among the 77% of women who want to be approached. The only way to find out would be approach at your own risk, and you carry the entire risk of the consequences.
2. Even if you somehow knew that a woman you want to approach is among the 77% of women who want to be approached, it is impossible to know the reason why that particular woman want to be approached. Again, the only way to find out would be to approach and spend the time and effort to find out. Again, you will be carrying the entire cost and risk of that effort, and if you have a mutually exclusive interest with the woman, you might not find that out until much later after you've already heavily invested in the effort with a different goal in mind.
If you consider all these carefully, it stands to reason that ultimately everything will come down to chance/luck for men.
The only winning strategy in a game of chance/luck is to repeat the game until you win, but do you have unlimited resources? Do you have unlimited time, unlimited risk tolerance, unlimited protection from liability (legal, social, political)?
If so, you will definitely land a valuable relationship (or whatever else you are looking for) if you approaching enough times.
Otherwise, do NOT pay a single attention to this.
>because they feel insecure when they don't feel desired by men
Almost certainly.
>Sounds to me they just want to be approached because they feel insecure when they don't feel desired by men.
BAsically, women know women lie to each other, which is why they use men as a barometer for general attractiveness and how others view them. Too bad they ruined that to the point that men don't want anything to do with them and women from non-western countries are so repulsed and mortified at how these women act that they are more than happy to take over and accept these men.
>Women make everthing transaction based.
>Women makes herself expensive because "she deserves it" and it makes her feel better.
>Also complains that men would rather save money and just go overseas
kek
> 77% of women want to be approa
No they don't.
77% of women want Chad to approach them.
They do not want a 95%er beta anywhere near them.
>> 77% of women want to be approa
>No they don't.
>77% of women want Chad to approach them.
Mind-reader. Pathetic.
why are there so many incels in this thread tho?
I mean they're right. No woman is waiting for an ugly/average guy to approach them, that's just how it is. What happens is that women send a nonverbal invitation to approach, then you make the first move
You seen the video of the ugly guy doing cold approaches vs the handsome white guy? I genuinely feel bad for the brown guy, the girls scowled at him. The white guy got smiles and the girls actually gave him a valid reason to reject him ( i have bf) and the % that did not gave him a number or insta.
tho
Yeah they want to be approached.
Just not by you or me.
approached by who though
>NOOO NOT THE HECKIN WOMENERINOS, APPROACH THEM PLEASE
Can a 5'7 manlet with a 6/10 face approach women without making them feel uncomfortable?
thoughlbeit
Cool, still not talking to women
There is nobody to approach. All the good looking women who would make great wives and mothers are taken in high school and college the latest. Whatever remains is taken shortly after they enter the workforce. There exist very few good looking (7 and above) women that are single and have a good heart, are modest, raised in a decent family, soft spoken and pretty. The window of opportunity when they are single is very very narrow. These are the 2% of women, the highest stock of females this wonderful creation can offer. If you don't frequent their circles or the events they attend you have no chance of meeting them. Women also don't go anywhere alone, so whatever hobbies women have or events they attend it is done with their husband or boyfriend and if they are single with their groups of friends.
Boomers and gen-x are throwing money at young pussy like never before, we are talking boat trips, exotic trips, paying their rent and bills, buying them gifts, trips to beauty salons, etc. Many of them have net worths in the millions. Just look at all those modelling agencies and realize how many pretty girls are being baited to frick the rich and upper class.
Then there are chad millennials and chad zoomers who get their first pick at all the young pussy.
Then at the end of the line there is you anon, the average nobody with no money, no charisma, no looks, no social circle, no experiences and no toys.
tldr; there simply aren't enough single good looking young white women to go around for everybody, they are rare and exist mostly in very niche places where men without social circles (loners) can't get in to
>77% of women want to be approached
Of course. women love being approached by all kinds of men OP
sorry but after all that "man vs bear" debate i'm not going to approach a single one of you witches. hard to find a non-misandrist these days
ermm, actually bears are friendly if you don't spook them.... source? I have a PhD in liberal arts, so I think I know what I am talking about.
Good! We like it when you filter yourselves for us.
yes so i've been told but not a single one of my efforts was successful. rejections were a fricking blessing, most of the time it was just ghosting or ignoring. i couldn't even get a single date so far.
I feel bad because I was approached by a fat woman, then I thought that fat woman has the balls to approach people she likes and eat a rejection, and I don't.