>anyone who disagrees MUST be a woman
Are you upset that the majority of people think you're moronic and that your opinions are terrible? You will never get a girlfriend if you continue acting like a manchild.
>Explicitly chooses to not even consider the arguments >Attacks the social status of the person making them instead
Yeah I'm thinking you're a roastie c**t.
They are the lesser genders for sure. Just like how over half of the world population is in Asia yet most of the inventions and innovations of mankind have come from the west. Even less so if you take away China and Japan, leaving about 3.5 billion slave laborer npcs who have contributed nothing other than physical motion to the world. Same as women tbh, there will always be lesser beings who benefit from the graces of the superior ones.
incel and neet do nothing ... women are more human that 99% of people on this board..that make no sense for me..if you think you are human that mean only fembot are animal..
I would have a job if women hadn't taken all the entry level positions in virtually every workplace. Can't even get a job at McDonald's because behind the counter is a bunch of women.
it seems that you need my approval of being human.. that is sad..
I would have a job if women hadn't taken all the entry level positions in virtually every workplace. Can't even get a job at McDonald's because behind the counter is a bunch of women.
are men human?
the main difference between humans and animals is empathy. most men have no empathy. so shouldn't men have their rights taken away and forced to serve as animals?
And women are the gender of phony "I'm sorry that happened to you" bullshit
Men actually relate to other people, women just know they're supposed to be feeling something so they better pretend otherwise they might look bad. It only makes them look even worse in the end
A man will refuse to apologize because he recognizes it means nothing to the one he wronged, roasties say "teehee Im sorry" with the hesitation of taking a dump its completely insincere and manipulative not empathetic. A roastie will beg for redemption no matter how fricked up she is,but a man can recognize when is human garbage. A man that cheats on his wife hates himself, a roastie that cheats on Chad with another Chad feels nothing close to remorse.
Most of these arguments hinge on women's contribution to society. The majority of major contributions to society are done by a small number of male geniuses because the y chromosome produces more mutations (it's more common in men, but not exclusive to men) which makes the bellcurve for men more spread out then for women. The average woman still has an IQ higher than the average man. The average man is not representative of a small group of people and trying to equate yourself with Einstein and claim his contributions just because you're of the same sex is like saying Chris Chan (on the opposite side of the extreme spectrum) is representative of men and making that the basis for men having their rights taken away.
>which makes the bellcurve for men more spread out then for women. The average woman still has an IQ higher than the average man.
I believe you're a woman because that was the most moronic thing I've ever heard. The average is the same you fricking moron, there's just more variance with men.
Are you trolling? You literally just said "the average is the same but it's different"
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
(10 + 10)/2 = 10
(5 + 5)/2 = 5
(10 + 5)/2 = 7.5
7.5 =/ 10
7.5 =/ 5
The average is different when the two groups are taken together, not individually. Poltards post about different races bringing the average American IQ down but don't understand this principle
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
NTA but please, if you are not trolling, stop.
You do nothing but ridicule yourself and your cause with your ignorance.
You are nothing but a toad in the well, anon. Learn to cultivate humility.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're the one failing to understand how certain mathematical contrsucts were constructed with male biases in mind.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>math has a male bias
and this troll goes beyond the realm of believability
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Alright, I won't waste my time anymore. Despite having eyes, you cannot see.
You're fricking with me. Peace.
And who are you?
If you're the same poster than above, i have nothing more to say. I do not have the time, the energy or the willingness to entertain morons.
women are human in the sense that they are literally members of homosexual sapiens, but they lack the higher order thinking that men have. They don't really contribute much to society nor do they exercise the rights we've given them very intelligently. I personally think every man who isn't abusive should have at least one woman enslaved to him. The world would be a much better place for everyone involved.
>women are human in the sense that they are literally members of homosexual sapiens
that's not the definition of humanity. It's defined as the dialectical overcoming represented by self-consciousness. The 'higher order thinking' you're talking about is the recursive property of a self-conscious system, that it can go beyond its original principles. What defines the ability to have this awareness is not sex, but rather defined at random by nature.
tl;dr SOME women and men are human, but there are more human men than women due to greater variation
Your genitals are irrelevant to that question.
Most people are not humans, they are two-legged beasts
Anyone who fell prey to the temptations of the mundane world are beasts, only those who can discard the passions and vicissitude of life, to ascend above the limitations of your primitive conscience, are true human beings.
Most women are not human.
But most men neither.
Although it is easier for men to be human as the more tribulations and difficulties you encounter, the more your soul is tempered.
all the "it doesn't count when women do all the things that constitute human civilization because they are surrounded by men when they do it" argument can apply to men as well. Men are surrounded by women, who enable men to do their civilization building too. Just because men and women have different roles typically doesn't make their contributions any more or less important than the contributions of the other. The difference between a good mother and a bad mother in today's society is literally the difference between a well-adjusted offspring who is capable of building up society, and a criminal sociopath who can only feed off of society's carcass.
>Just because men and women have different roles typically doesn't make their contributions any more or less important than the contributions of the other.
Your role is just birth. You don't do anything else important.
birth is literally the most important thing. without your birth, you wouldn't exist. Women also preserve cultural identity, mate selection, networking, home making, and in the modern world are responsible for keeping the nuclear family together (as evidenced by the fact that when a family falls apart it's generally because the woman dropped the ball).
Also, you can say that men build civilization, but what civilization building are any of you anons doing in your lives?
>birth is literally the most important thing
because it represents dialectical overcoming, which is impossible without both sides. Men are also important.
>birth is literally the most important thing.
Okay, and how does it separate you from animals? The question wasn't "are women alive?" it was "are women human?". >Women also preserve cultural identity, mate selection, networking, home making, and in the modern world are responsible for keeping the nuclear family together
So why are they not doing any of those things currently now that men have stopped violently forcing you to?
>Women also preserve cultural identity, mate selection, networking, home making, and in the modern world are responsible for keeping the nuclear family together
Simps live in lalaland
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
reminder that it is NEVER women who hold families together. It is ALWAYS men responsible for a family's success. Single motherhood is the single greatest predictor for likelihood that a child will engage in crime, drug use, etc. Single fatherhood is equivalent to being raised by both parents. Fathers are the core of families. Women are the incubators.
>Women also preserve cultural identity, mate selection
You are obsessed with racemixing. You do none of these things. And you dont even give birth either hence why the birthrates are falling. Your gender is a joke.
reminder that it is NEVER women who hold families together. It is ALWAYS men responsible for a family's success. Single motherhood is the single greatest predictor for likelihood that a child will engage in crime, drug use, etc. Single fatherhood is equivalent to being raised by both parents. Fathers are the core of families. Women are the incubators.
Women largely failing to perform their responsibility to civilization is proof that the woman has that responsibility to the civilization. Men are responsible for upholding public order and keeping the environment safe, and they are largely failing in that task at the moment as well.
Women are dropping the ball despite men's desire for them not to, likewise men are dropping the ball despite women's desire for them not to. We still have these roles, regardless of our success in them.
The difference is that women's failure came first. Women decided they didn't want to be wives and mothers anymore, and we played along because we thought they had the emotional maturity to do the same work men do. Turns out that we were wrong, and now we have a situation where women basically contribute nothing, and a lot of men are left with nothing to fight or live for because the women they used to fight for no longer want them. So they just say "frick it, if we're not gonna get anything out of upholding society then we're just not gonna do it anymore."
You see how it's a false equivalence to hold men and women equally accountable for this, right?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
this doesn't negate my argument about how men and women both contribute to civilization, it actually weakens the argument of
Men don't need women to build civilization. They need women to give birth. That's it.
. Men do need women and the role they play to keep civilization running, because their failure to play their role has directly caused men to fail in their role.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
So women's big contribution is that men can put their dicks in them. How inspiring.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
They can also make milk, so that's two things
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
this isn't what i'm saying and it's evidently not true. Women still have sex and they are failing at their role. Their role as it pertains to men putting their dicks in them is pro-social mate selection, selecting a mate who lives up to the values of their civilization so that their offspring can grow up well-adapted to that civilization and capable of contributing positively to it in adulthood.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
also, if women were simply animals and not humans, then you wouldn't hold women accountable at all for their actions. You don't hold cattle responsible when their gates are left open and they escape, but you want to hold women accountable for their failures. Isn't that a performative contradiction?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're right that it's a contradiction, but I hold that one of the two must be true. Either women are not animals, and they should be held accountable for their shit behavior, or they are animals, in which case they should be treated like animals. This weird middle ground where we treat them like humans but also refuse to hold them accountable clearly isn't working.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
personally i shame women who make poor choices in mate selection and i also shame men who stay at home and neet. I agree that the failure to hold women accountable for their actions is a problem, but it's hypocritical to do so as a male from a position of failing to perform your role as well.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's not at all hypocritical to refuse to perform labor for no compensation. It's just common sense.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
it goes both ways, women aren't being compensated by men for their contribution and are withdrawing the performance of their role. If neither side is doing the work because the other isn't either, then everything is doomed.
It's not hypocritical to withdraw your contribution, but it is hypocritical for doing so and then criticizing women for withdrawing theirs. The case men make to women would be much more convincing if it was coming from men who work hard and thrive to the degree that they can alone. It doesn't matter what NPNW acolytes think.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Still not hypocritical. Men withdrew their contribution with cause, women didn't.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The cause behind women withdrawing their consent can be argued. Someone more versed in the history of marxism in educational institutions would do a better job than I. My very basic understanding is that a few radfems and marxists worked their way into university positions and spread their ideas into cultural consciousness and normalized women abandoning their role. It's besides the point. Men who are performing their role have a chance at convincing women to get back on the civilization train and perform theirs, NPNW believers have no chance. They're not technically wrong for responding that way, but they are another domino falling into place in the marxist plan to topple civilization and rule in its ruins.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Men who are performing their role have a chance at convincing women to get back on the civilization train
I don't believe this. You're treating women like men, as though they have the capacity for rational thought to understand that siding with productive men is good for them in the long term. This isn't true. Women are driven by short-term pleasure. They're never going to be convinced through logic.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
women do respond to a kind, reliable, hardworking man who embodies the spirit of civilization. The argument that they should fall in line with their role for a man like this has a lot more going for it than the logic of the arrangement. It took a good deal of indoctrination and popular messaging to derail women from this path, and it will take a lot less of it coming from the kind of men who deliver the goods to bring them back. Women are not happy chasing short-term pleasure, it takes a lot of cope to convince themselves they are.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The difference is that women's failure came first.
Chicken or egg. That wouldn't have happened if moronic weak moids in the 20th century kept up their responsibility of keeping women in line instead of allowing them to throw a tantrum and do as they please, eventually snowballing into the mess we have now.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
No it is actually very important to note who backstabbed first and who CONTINUES to backstab now even though most men want gender parity. Women need to be in chains with swollen bellies and that is all they deserve.
>you guy just dont understand women . its easy. >if the woman is good, you marry then procreate with her. is she act like a b***h you leave and find a good one.
FTFY
women are human, though they don't operate on the same level of thought as men.
they are objectively human. in comparison to the achievements of men, they do fall flat. but they are technically still human. does that mean you should feel negatively towards them? no not particularly, you have to remember life is about peace and happiness, whether or not women are able to comprehend or not be surface-level simpletons is irrelevant. when controlled they provide good things for society.
I'm not reading all this shit please post physique, weight, and current PRs before I consider your argument. If you don't lift then you're subhuman and I don't have to consider your appeal to humanity.
Lifting is actually for subhumans with an otherwise sedentary lifestyle who need to go to a facility dedicated to artificially stimulating your body, instead of just doing actual work in your daily life lol
Why would I consider your arguments when they're made by a porn addict who obviously hasn't done anything significant with his life? Shitty bait.
Women are human, but they are at best baby-carrying parasites who do nothing but take-take-take while the man gives-gives-gives.
Silence, stinky hole.
>anyone who disagrees MUST be a woman
Are you upset that the majority of people think you're moronic and that your opinions are terrible? You will never get a girlfriend if you continue acting like a manchild.
>appeal to majority
>"no gf 4 u lel"
>"manchild"
Yep, you're a roastie, and therefore everything you say is worth less than trash.
>you're wrong because, uhh, I won't give you holes
>QED, incel
>Explicitly chooses to not even consider the arguments
>Attacks the social status of the person making them instead
Yeah I'm thinking you're a roastie c**t.
This is the most typical femoid method of "argument" lmfao
Pic related explain it all.
Whenever I see that kind of stupid posts, I immediately think of that pic.
It was a fairly concise argument for a porn addict. I don't even want to agree with it, but he's right.
They are the lesser genders for sure. Just like how over half of the world population is in Asia yet most of the inventions and innovations of mankind have come from the west. Even less so if you take away China and Japan, leaving about 3.5 billion slave laborer npcs who have contributed nothing other than physical motion to the world. Same as women tbh, there will always be lesser beings who benefit from the graces of the superior ones.
I'm not reading all that and it looks moronic
incel and neet do nothing ... women are more human that 99% of people on this board..that make no sense for me..if you think you are human that mean only fembot are animal..
I do nothing for the system, I do plenty for myself.
it seems that you need my approval of being human.. that is sad..
You sound like you haven't passed 4th grade English class.
I would have a job if women hadn't taken all the entry level positions in virtually every workplace. Can't even get a job at McDonald's because behind the counter is a bunch of women.
Affirmative Action and other hand-outs for inferior humans has done its duty in fricking over White men.
No their paleolithic instincts have absolute control over their thinking, thus women are the definition of subhuman
women are human wtf ..it you the not human . you are fricking robot .
are men human?
the main difference between humans and animals is empathy. most men have no empathy. so shouldn't men have their rights taken away and forced to serve as animals?
>I'M AN EMPAAATH
No you BPD c**t you arent
Men are the only humans who have empathy.
men are not conscious beings so they are not capable of having empathy
As someone who's not an NT I gotta say that men are the gender of empathy, not women.
And women are the gender of phony "I'm sorry that happened to you" bullshit
Men actually relate to other people, women just know they're supposed to be feeling something so they better pretend otherwise they might look bad. It only makes them look even worse in the end
A man will refuse to apologize because he recognizes it means nothing to the one he wronged, roasties say "teehee Im sorry" with the hesitation of taking a dump its completely insincere and manipulative not empathetic. A roastie will beg for redemption no matter how fricked up she is,but a man can recognize when is human garbage. A man that cheats on his wife hates himself, a roastie that cheats on Chad with another Chad feels nothing close to remorse.
Men conceptualized all moral systems, roasties think if X feels good then it cant be bad, the beast with no empathy are you veganal apes
>the main difference between humans and animals is emp-ACK!
Most of these arguments hinge on women's contribution to society. The majority of major contributions to society are done by a small number of male geniuses because the y chromosome produces more mutations (it's more common in men, but not exclusive to men) which makes the bellcurve for men more spread out then for women. The average woman still has an IQ higher than the average man. The average man is not representative of a small group of people and trying to equate yourself with Einstein and claim his contributions just because you're of the same sex is like saying Chris Chan (on the opposite side of the extreme spectrum) is representative of men and making that the basis for men having their rights taken away.
>The average woman still has an IQ higher than the average man.
>which makes the bellcurve for men more spread out then for women. The average woman still has an IQ higher than the average man.
I believe you're a woman because that was the most moronic thing I've ever heard. The average is the same you fricking moron, there's just more variance with men.
The combined average for men and women is the same because that's how a combined average works. They're different separately.
Are you trolling? You literally just said "the average is the same but it's different"
(10 + 10)/2 = 10
(5 + 5)/2 = 5
(10 + 5)/2 = 7.5
7.5 =/ 10
7.5 =/ 5
The average is different when the two groups are taken together, not individually. Poltards post about different races bringing the average American IQ down but don't understand this principle
NTA but please, if you are not trolling, stop.
You do nothing but ridicule yourself and your cause with your ignorance.
You are nothing but a toad in the well, anon. Learn to cultivate humility.
You're the one failing to understand how certain mathematical contrsucts were constructed with male biases in mind.
>math has a male bias
and this troll goes beyond the realm of believability
Alright, I won't waste my time anymore. Despite having eyes, you cannot see.
And who are you?
If you're the same poster than above, i have nothing more to say. I do not have the time, the energy or the willingness to entertain morons.
You're fricking with me. Peace.
They literally had to redesign the test multiple times just to get women to average out to 100. It's a purely political move.
women are human in the sense that they are literally members of homosexual sapiens, but they lack the higher order thinking that men have. They don't really contribute much to society nor do they exercise the rights we've given them very intelligently. I personally think every man who isn't abusive should have at least one woman enslaved to him. The world would be a much better place for everyone involved.
>women are human in the sense that they are literally members of homosexual sapiens
that's not the definition of humanity. It's defined as the dialectical overcoming represented by self-consciousness. The 'higher order thinking' you're talking about is the recursive property of a self-conscious system, that it can go beyond its original principles. What defines the ability to have this awareness is not sex, but rather defined at random by nature.
tl;dr SOME women and men are human, but there are more human men than women due to greater variation
Your genitals are irrelevant to that question.
Most people are not humans, they are two-legged beasts
Anyone who fell prey to the temptations of the mundane world are beasts, only those who can discard the passions and vicissitude of life, to ascend above the limitations of your primitive conscience, are true human beings.
Most women are not human.
But most men neither.
Although it is easier for men to be human as the more tribulations and difficulties you encounter, the more your soul is tempered.
all the "it doesn't count when women do all the things that constitute human civilization because they are surrounded by men when they do it" argument can apply to men as well. Men are surrounded by women, who enable men to do their civilization building too. Just because men and women have different roles typically doesn't make their contributions any more or less important than the contributions of the other. The difference between a good mother and a bad mother in today's society is literally the difference between a well-adjusted offspring who is capable of building up society, and a criminal sociopath who can only feed off of society's carcass.
>Just because men and women have different roles typically doesn't make their contributions any more or less important than the contributions of the other.
Your role is just birth. You don't do anything else important.
birth is literally the most important thing. without your birth, you wouldn't exist. Women also preserve cultural identity, mate selection, networking, home making, and in the modern world are responsible for keeping the nuclear family together (as evidenced by the fact that when a family falls apart it's generally because the woman dropped the ball).
Also, you can say that men build civilization, but what civilization building are any of you anons doing in your lives?
>birth is literally the most important thing
because it represents dialectical overcoming, which is impossible without both sides. Men are also important.
>birth is literally the most important thing.
Okay, and how does it separate you from animals? The question wasn't "are women alive?" it was "are women human?".
>Women also preserve cultural identity, mate selection, networking, home making, and in the modern world are responsible for keeping the nuclear family together
So why are they not doing any of those things currently now that men have stopped violently forcing you to?
>Women also preserve cultural identity, mate selection, networking, home making, and in the modern world are responsible for keeping the nuclear family together
Simps live in lalaland
reminder that it is NEVER women who hold families together. It is ALWAYS men responsible for a family's success. Single motherhood is the single greatest predictor for likelihood that a child will engage in crime, drug use, etc. Single fatherhood is equivalent to being raised by both parents. Fathers are the core of families. Women are the incubators.
>Women also preserve cultural identity, mate selection
You are obsessed with racemixing. You do none of these things. And you dont even give birth either hence why the birthrates are falling. Your gender is a joke.
Men don't need women to build civilization. They need women to give birth. That's it.
So you do need women which proves women are human.
Women breed with criminal sociopaths who ditch their kids
Women largely failing to perform their responsibility to civilization is proof that the woman has that responsibility to the civilization. Men are responsible for upholding public order and keeping the environment safe, and they are largely failing in that task at the moment as well.
Women are dropping the ball despite men's desire for them not to, likewise men are dropping the ball despite women's desire for them not to. We still have these roles, regardless of our success in them.
The difference is that women's failure came first. Women decided they didn't want to be wives and mothers anymore, and we played along because we thought they had the emotional maturity to do the same work men do. Turns out that we were wrong, and now we have a situation where women basically contribute nothing, and a lot of men are left with nothing to fight or live for because the women they used to fight for no longer want them. So they just say "frick it, if we're not gonna get anything out of upholding society then we're just not gonna do it anymore."
You see how it's a false equivalence to hold men and women equally accountable for this, right?
this doesn't negate my argument about how men and women both contribute to civilization, it actually weakens the argument of
. Men do need women and the role they play to keep civilization running, because their failure to play their role has directly caused men to fail in their role.
So women's big contribution is that men can put their dicks in them. How inspiring.
They can also make milk, so that's two things
this isn't what i'm saying and it's evidently not true. Women still have sex and they are failing at their role. Their role as it pertains to men putting their dicks in them is pro-social mate selection, selecting a mate who lives up to the values of their civilization so that their offspring can grow up well-adapted to that civilization and capable of contributing positively to it in adulthood.
also, if women were simply animals and not humans, then you wouldn't hold women accountable at all for their actions. You don't hold cattle responsible when their gates are left open and they escape, but you want to hold women accountable for their failures. Isn't that a performative contradiction?
You're right that it's a contradiction, but I hold that one of the two must be true. Either women are not animals, and they should be held accountable for their shit behavior, or they are animals, in which case they should be treated like animals. This weird middle ground where we treat them like humans but also refuse to hold them accountable clearly isn't working.
personally i shame women who make poor choices in mate selection and i also shame men who stay at home and neet. I agree that the failure to hold women accountable for their actions is a problem, but it's hypocritical to do so as a male from a position of failing to perform your role as well.
It's not at all hypocritical to refuse to perform labor for no compensation. It's just common sense.
it goes both ways, women aren't being compensated by men for their contribution and are withdrawing the performance of their role. If neither side is doing the work because the other isn't either, then everything is doomed.
It's not hypocritical to withdraw your contribution, but it is hypocritical for doing so and then criticizing women for withdrawing theirs. The case men make to women would be much more convincing if it was coming from men who work hard and thrive to the degree that they can alone. It doesn't matter what NPNW acolytes think.
Still not hypocritical. Men withdrew their contribution with cause, women didn't.
The cause behind women withdrawing their consent can be argued. Someone more versed in the history of marxism in educational institutions would do a better job than I. My very basic understanding is that a few radfems and marxists worked their way into university positions and spread their ideas into cultural consciousness and normalized women abandoning their role. It's besides the point. Men who are performing their role have a chance at convincing women to get back on the civilization train and perform theirs, NPNW believers have no chance. They're not technically wrong for responding that way, but they are another domino falling into place in the marxist plan to topple civilization and rule in its ruins.
>Men who are performing their role have a chance at convincing women to get back on the civilization train
I don't believe this. You're treating women like men, as though they have the capacity for rational thought to understand that siding with productive men is good for them in the long term. This isn't true. Women are driven by short-term pleasure. They're never going to be convinced through logic.
women do respond to a kind, reliable, hardworking man who embodies the spirit of civilization. The argument that they should fall in line with their role for a man like this has a lot more going for it than the logic of the arrangement. It took a good deal of indoctrination and popular messaging to derail women from this path, and it will take a lot less of it coming from the kind of men who deliver the goods to bring them back. Women are not happy chasing short-term pleasure, it takes a lot of cope to convince themselves they are.
>The difference is that women's failure came first.
Chicken or egg. That wouldn't have happened if moronic weak moids in the 20th century kept up their responsibility of keeping women in line instead of allowing them to throw a tantrum and do as they please, eventually snowballing into the mess we have now.
No it is actually very important to note who backstabbed first and who CONTINUES to backstab now even though most men want gender parity. Women need to be in chains with swollen bellies and that is all they deserve.
>you guy just dont understand women . its easy.
>if the woman is good, you marry then procreate with her. is she act like a b***h you leave and find a good one.
FTFY
guys get rejected once and start posting shit like this
>tell a man he is ugly and unworthy of love
yeah no shit they're mad
>Foid gets conned by Chad once and becomes a disgusting misandrist to non Chads
Consult the following:
I'm MGTOW, try again.
women are human, though they don't operate on the same level of thought as men.
they are objectively human. in comparison to the achievements of men, they do fall flat. but they are technically still human. does that mean you should feel negatively towards them? no not particularly, you have to remember life is about peace and happiness, whether or not women are able to comprehend or not be surface-level simpletons is irrelevant. when controlled they provide good things for society.
I'm not reading all this shit please post physique, weight, and current PRs before I consider your argument. If you don't lift then you're subhuman and I don't have to consider your appeal to humanity.
Lifting is actually for subhumans with an otherwise sedentary lifestyle who need to go to a facility dedicated to artificially stimulating your body, instead of just doing actual work in your daily life lol
actual brainlet take. Not all useful work is manual labor.
>singing, cleaning, and giving birth
IDK I think we'd be in bad shape without these
I can do the first two of those and the third one doesn't make you human.
Post your singing and how clean your room is