Accept that you are going to die. You will eventually be dead. Why waste your life worrying about trivial bullshit. If you really love a girl, you will also love her sexually transmitted diseases.
What "risks" do you fear? I can empathise but it's mostly just in your head and social anxiety I think. Instead of worrying about sex right away why not start with smaller steps/goals to get over the physical intimacy fear? e.g. next time you're out with someone or on a date try to sit closer to them if they're responding well and touch their arm/waist etc.
3 off the top of my head. Incurable stds for one, Getting dinged for sexual assault if the girl regrets getting with me, and having to show her my gut and stretch marks. That would be humiliating.
>my gut and stretch marks
loose weight mother fricker
you're 24 your skin elasticity won't be able to repair as well in the near future but you still have time right now to fix it
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're right. I'll go hit the gym now. Thanks for getting me off my ass.
2 years ago
Anonymous
LET'S GO, WE GO JIMMM
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nta, but I am hitting the gym but the damage is done. How do I cope with loose skin and stretch marks?
2 years ago
Anonymous
how old are you and how much do you weigh?
Lifting weights will also cause your skin to tighten as well
2 years ago
Anonymous
25, 172cm weighting 76kg. Used to weight ~105kg. Been lifting for about 9 months and chest still looks pathetic, nevermind the stomach
2 years ago
Anonymous
that's not TOO bad, but I presume you're a euro so you guys aren't as fat as us so it's more noticeable when someone has a bit of tub
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you're a euro
Yeah, people here tend to take a lot more care of their appearance. But with clothing I look decent, problem is I don't feel like I could be completely naked in front of anyone, so that would complicate things when I want to have sex
2 years ago
Anonymous
well the upside is that guys your size get jacked pretty easily, so just lift and you'll lose weight, repair your skin, and get muscles
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'll keep lifting and hope for the best then. Thanks for the encouragement, anon
2 years ago
Anonymous
nta, I'm not an expert on this but don't people have stetch marks from losing weight? I always see it as a positive tbh, shows the person was able to lose a lot of weight. And aesthetically I've never found them unattractive or whatever.
How to dance >Left foot forward >Right foot forward >Left foot back >Right foot back >Hips slightly dipped >Ideally one hand on her hip or holding her hand
Congrats bro you can dance now
Dis homie doing the cha cha slide
2 years ago
Anonymous
>but don't people have stetch marks from losing weight?
nope
as a former THICC boy I got mine from being fat
you can also get them from lifting weights though
Still have a pinched nerve in my leg but I have 2 days to rest and hopefully its better when I go back to work. Great day yesterday when I got off. She, asked me if I there was something wrong with me, actual concern in her voice. Just felt so good.
>cis bf seems to be an asexual who misidentified himself as bisexual or something >he used to be sexual before I met him but I guess drugs and alcohol killed his libido and gave him erectile dysfunction >still is romantic I guess, which is why he agrees to be my boyfriend >I really want to frick him >don't want to make him feel bad by making him take viagra >buy it secretly >crush it and mix it in his alcohol >he is really drunk though >I ask him if we can try >"maybe if I stimulate it a bit it will get up" >"mhm" >it's working >he's out of shape and drunk so he struggles to frick me while standing I guess >I pull him down and lay him on the bed >ride him >he says nothing the whole time >he's apparently going to cum >come off of him >ok, I'll rub it >he cums onto his tummy >I lick it off and eat it >he grabs me and pulls me closer >he hugs me >doesn't say anything >just hug him back in bed >he falls asleep
Did I do something wrong? I mean not to make him upset. But was this wrong? It was the first time I had sex
I would have fricked him while he was sober, but he is virtually never sober. He is always drunk and high and I can't seem to get him to stop drugging
Personally, no. I've never had a girl I wanted to kiss reject my kiss. But I've had girls tell me afterwards that whilst they enjoyed the kiss and whatever else we had done that night that they don't want to continue down that path.
I just tell them no worries I and thank them for being so upfront. Then I just go back to treating them like normal, just pretend it never happened. I'm not emotionally invested in them that much so I don't feel it as a big loss.If they didn't want to be my friend again I would be more upset or if they just ghosted me or if I had been seeing them for a while.
Post gender, and how you feel when the opposite gender has the hiccups.
M
Very cute.
Guys, if a coworker came in on a Monday and mentioned she feels like shit, and when you asked why she stupidly mentioned she's hungover as frick, would you assume a ton of negative things about her?
I wouldn't assume tons of negative things but to me it's a reasonable negative since I don't like party girls which is what I would associate with it. But if it's a once off, I could just let it pass.
2 years ago
Anonymous
ok, now tell me, as a man, how do you dance with women?
or is it just grinding?
2 years ago
さとう
Fricked if I know. I just copy what people are doing around me. I suck at it. The times I've dance with girls, I've just held their waist and they put their arms around my neck and we just swayed to the music and I took my chance to feel her up a bit more.
2 years ago
Anonymous
so what, you just slow dance?
How to dance >Left foot forward >Right foot forward >Left foot back >Right foot back >Hips slightly dipped >Ideally one hand on her hip or holding her hand
Congrats bro you can dance now
when do I cha cha real smooth?
2 years ago
KC
How to dance >Left foot forward >Right foot forward >Left foot back >Right foot back >Hips slightly dipped >Ideally one hand on her hip or holding her hand
Congrats bro you can dance now
>used to be sexual before I met him but I guess drugs and alcohol killed his libido and gave him erectile dysfunction
Yikes, one does not simply become "asexual" like this; guy is probably mentally ill and repressing trauma, has he gotten any help? >he's out of shape
Does he work out? What's his diet like? That should be a priority fixing too >and drunk
Is he an alcoholic?
Anyway there is a lot to unpack here...
I can understand your frustrations but spiking him with viagra is very sus lol, and doing that instead of just being able to bring it up with him signals communication issues. You don't have to stay with this guy if it's too frustrating but clearly there are issues to resolve here before potentially developing a healthy sex life on top of that.
Post gender, and how you feel when the opposite gender has the hiccups.
Moe
I remember one girl I dated got so embarrassed when she hiccuped but it was cute
It always feels like girls move on way quicker and have an easier time adjusting after breakups. Have you guys just simply never considered anyone you were together with your soulmate, wanted them to be with you forever, done everything you could and mourned their loss for months and even years on end? Or is that just a masculine thing?
I'd say I mourned my first (and, so far, only) love for about 18 months, with the relationship itself being only 12, but we broke up right before covid so I think that played a big role in my inertia and nostalgia for the life I'd had right beforehand. Granted, I've moved on my now, and meanwhile said ex is still trying to contact his ex before me from about 6 years prior lel.
I see, thanks for the response. Also, do you ever go back in mind and think about your possible mistakes and what could've been? It's smth I've been struggling with myself so I wanted to ask for some advice :0
I did for a while, but ever since letting go of romantic feelings for him, I really don't think about it at all. Not even the lifestyle I could have had with him (which was very similar to what I've always dreamed of building for myself. And I actually think is a really good thing, because it confirms that I was genuinely in love with him and our potential, and that I wasn't just dazzled by the idea of skipping ahead in my life goals by coasting off his accomplishments).
The breakup was his decision and all to do with things he was dealing with independently of me/us. He made it clear that it wasn't because of anything I had or hadn't done, it just wasn't gonna work out. And I believe him, we were great to each other. That really confused me at first, because if things were so great then what's the problem, why couldn't we just stay together. But in the time since, the emotion has faded and I've come to see more clearly that we're quite different people and yeah it just wouldn't have worked in the long term.
There's certainly lessons I've taken from it, but no regrets, nothing I'd call a mistake or that I'd say jeopardised us. I'd say I learned that I have to watch out for not allowing myself to disappear into a relationship. I kinda neglected my life outside of him while we were together, and was a bit too eager to learn about him and his life and support him without expecting much in return. I wouldn't say that's a problem though, I was just swept away by normal first love feelings and learning to balance it, you don't just tightrope between two skyscrapers on your first try.
Even in the early days after the breakup, something I kept coming back to for comfort was simply the fact that the experience confirmed I was capable of loving someone, and how fortunate I felt for having been able to experience that, and the fact that I knew I was capable of surviving the pain of losing it. Basically pic related lol.
Flattered I guess. I had a guy tell me this weekend he saw me come in and was hoping I would go up to him and say hi. It made me wonder if guys expect girls to do the cold approach thing? I very rarely have done it
Guys, if a coworker came in on a Monday and mentioned she feels like shit, and when you asked why she stupidly mentioned she's hungover as frick, would you assume a ton of negative things about her?
Not really. Are you expecting me to say she's probably a prostitute or something? I know a girl who does this all the time and it's just because she stays up all night drinking and watching stupid shit on the internet.
Which, to be fair, I do think is kind of negative, but not really anything I care about one way or the other.
Getting hungover-drunk on a Sunday night is a negative but it's hardly the worst thing in the world, kind of annoying if you need to rely on her for work.
No lol, that's pretty normal (and been me more times than I'd like to admit...)
When I worked as a receptionist and waiter a lot of us were going out partying in the week lol and sometimes would go out after work
Obviously if your job is something more serious like guarding nuclear missiles or something then it's a bit more irresponsible
3 off the top of my head. Incurable stds for one, Getting dinged for sexual assault if the girl regrets getting with me, and having to show her my gut and stretch marks. That would be humiliating.
You don't have to have casual sex then, you can get tested with someone in/going into a relationship. Also so long as you try to communicate, be honest and preferably have some friends around seeing how you interact etc. I think the chances of getting gone for assault is pretty slim.
Also don't be embarrassed about the stretch marks, nothing wrong with that, if they react negatively then consider it a bullet dodged.
Every time I find a guy I love a ton, something happens outside my control and/or critical incompatibilities become apparent.
I've had some fun conversations that way, but I've never been cold approached by a guy that I ended up going on a date with. I've approached guys that way and gotten dates, though.
Not a femanon but my last date told me smth about this. She's a really attractive and especially cute 5'4 8/10 tiny piece of joy with cute innocent eyes. People would stare at her when we drove around. Anyway, point being, she told me that she actually rarely gets approaches aside from people that try getting to her via the male "friend" route or on dating apps. She's apparently even tried to go out alone, just to sit near other men to see if anyone would make a move, and she was disappointed to find out nobody had the balls to do shit.
interdasting...
Guess I'll have to just keep at it lol
One time this girl at a train station kept glancing at me so I approached her and complimented her on her jacket and she was receptive, but when our train came I pussied out and said 'this is my train haha cya'
damn...
Not a femanon but my last date told me smth about this. She's a really attractive and especially cute 5'4 8/10 tiny piece of joy with cute innocent eyes. People would stare at her when we drove around. Anyway, point being, she told me that she actually rarely gets approaches aside from people that try getting to her via the male "friend" route or on dating apps. She's apparently even tried to go out alone, just to sit near other men to see if anyone would make a move, and she was disappointed to find out nobody had the balls to do shit.
Flattered I guess. I had a guy tell me this weekend he saw me come in and was hoping I would go up to him and say hi. It made me wonder if guys expect girls to do the cold approach thing? I very rarely have done it
Not a femanon, but hardly doubt it. Even the chicks with rape kinks that I talked to always had people they're attracted to doing it in their mind. Fat old men only get dates either by losing weight and getting jacked or making big money.
Girls how do you feel about how guys just want to cuddle and pass out immediately after cumming?
I always used to hear that women were the opposite, but I kind of suspect that was just common knowledge from back in the day where the expectation was that women basically never orgasmed.
Not a femanon but my last date told me smth about this. She's a really attractive and especially cute 5'4 8/10 tiny piece of joy with cute innocent eyes. People would stare at her when we drove around. Anyway, point being, she told me that she actually rarely gets approaches aside from people that try getting to her via the male "friend" route or on dating apps. She's apparently even tried to go out alone, just to sit near other men to see if anyone would make a move, and she was disappointed to find out nobody had the balls to do shit.
girl loved romantic cuddling before and after sex, so I guess it's not always that weird stereotype you see here where you'd think any sign of comfort or weakness is immediately a turnoff
She's not my type and she seems like a total brat. Plus leftist women are annoying. Not in the sense that I only go for right wing women, but I wouldn't want to date someone that's politically very active, especially if they're leftist. Just seems like a lot of unnecessary everyday stress and if there's anything I've learned from past bonds, it's to never sacrifice your mental health for anyone.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I only date pureblood aryan white supremacists
k
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh, it's not about race. I like Europeans, Asians, Indians, people from the Balkan region and Slavs. Black Girls and Arabs maybe to a lesser extent for the most part, but sure. Look, I don't care about political views that much unless it's a core aspect in their identity and it's leftist at the same time.
>but don't people have stetch marks from losing weight?
nope
as a former THICC boy I got mine from being fat
you can also get them from lifting weights though
oh, so you actually had the stretch marks when you were still fat? I thought they only appeared when you lost weight?
>ugly face >no boobs or ass >bad spine, bad teeth >no social skills whatsoever >no confidence >no interests >overall pretty boring and hard to talk to >pretty stupid and bitter
Just realized I'm 21 and I'm a kissless virgin. Never had male friends either. Never confessed to. The only time I got a compliment from a non-relative man was from a salesman trying to scam me. It's all over, isn't it
makeup, fashion and a sweet personality can go a long way even if you're uggers
anyway you just sound depressed/anxious, I'm sure once you tackle that more (very normal to experience in early 20s) other things will fall into place
Can't care about every egg making the mother of all omelettes. Can't try every meal on the buffet. Don't have time for every story.
Dude, women have infinite attention, why would they make sure to maintain connections to everyone when they can build new ones immediately coz there's always someone waiting in line?
Even if her father would've taught her manners, a lot of women still would start ghosting people because there's no bad consequence in doing so.
As a comparison, when me, my younger sibling and my father went out shopping at a place where everyone respects my father, my brother had no issue stealing stuff to eat every here and there because if my Dad would be around, people usually wouldn't mind giving stuff out for free. Meaning he made it a habit of taking stuff without asking while my Dad was around. Super rude and messed up, but it's this line of subconsciously taught logic that causes ghosting as well.
How do you get over a hive mind mindset when it comes to sexes? Asking stuff like would you date a bi guy and stuff like that knowing damn well that obviously someone would be up for it
I guess all I'm saying is, how do I stop thinking women are a monolith/aka if someone says no to a question here that I think oh no guess I'll die alone
>Asking stuff like would you date a bi guy and stuff like that knowing damn well that obviously someone would be up for it
I take these questions like they're opinion polls and conversation starters.
Not sure what you mean. Not a lot of people like bi guys so you will get a lot of people saying so. Not really hivemind if you already know that someone out there wouldn’t mind.
Follow as in social media? They must produce interesting content. Whatever it is, it's gotta be interesting. In youtube I follow a guy that talks about NASCAR, a guy that talks about old tech, a guy that collects Lego and makes really good reviews that are comfy to watch, a bunch of musicians, that's about it.
I don't follow any women because they seem to be incapable of making any interesting content if their life depends on it. All they do is try to look pretty.
Woman: One argument I keep on hearing when people are advocating for making sex work illegal/make it a system where everyone besides the woman is breaking the law is that men shouldn't be able to buy sex. How do you stand on that? I'm only talking about situations where the woman is obviously not doing this against her will and where it's only about men being able to buy sexual gratification for money.
I mean porn and sex toys can hardly be compared to actual sex. I just never got why someone would find the idea of two consenting adults selling/buying sex fundamentally wrong when things like cuddle cafes and other acts of intimacy are totally okay to commoditize in the eyes of most people.
Everyone I've spoken to about cuddle cafes finds the concept revolting. I don't, personally, but I've never met someone who's not viscerally disgusted by it and judgemental about it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't like them either but I wouldn't pass legislation prohibiting them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I find the idea of paying a woman for affection absolutely disgusting
Men should be above such things
2 years ago
Anonymous
What if you payed a woman to be your girlfriend and eventually the two of you fall in love?
2 years ago
Anonymous
It would never happen because I would never hire the prostitute in the first place
I attempted to end my 7 yr relationship last night. At first my bf made the decision simple, but now he slept on it and really doesn't want to lose me
He had been an alcoholic for 5-6 years and still has some poor tendencies. Even though he's improved, he was upset about something the other day, drank, and got aggressive. Other key things in the relationship was he'd be impossible to communicate with, wouldn't go out of his way for me, basically just a selfish person. He's someone who's really fun to hang out with, but I was questioning how sustainable long-term living with him would be.
He took me for granted because he assumed we were forever. I told him that was always the goal, but never the guarantee. He got too comfortable so he never felt compelled to change, and now shit's real for him. Now he's offering to go sober (which I had asked many many times in the past), he's willing to do anything to make me love him again
What do
What think
It breaks my heart to see him like this, and it's not like I ever wanted to put him through this. He is extremely dependent on me for happiness
I will be honest: he sounds like a loser who is taking you for granted and hoping you'll stick around through his nonsense. Do yourself a favour and move on.
"Fun to hang out with" is not enough to build a healthy relationship on. I say this as a heavy drinker myself but if he's unwilling to quit for you and turn things around, that says it all IMO.
>7years
That’s when most marriages end, you just never got married
Yeah, that was what was going on the whole time. I was forever to him so there was no selfless motivation to change. But now that he’s getting a reality check, now that he sees I really can leave, he’s willing to put in the effort.
He really does love me. He admit he was being selfish. I’ve never seen him truly heartbroken before bc he knew all my previous considerations to leave were empty.
The fact that he was capable of addressing my concerns the whole time, but never did bc there was no risk to him, makes me feel weird. He regrets acting like that but if I had never initiated a real breakup, he would’ve continued to do all that. I don’t like that a breakup is what it takes to hear me out.
Would a man ~30 years old be interested in going out with a girl in her early 20s or do they probably prefer someone closer to their age and who is more like established?
Depends wildly on the specific ages. A 30 y/o and a 24 y/o? Totally normal. A 34 y/o and a 20 y/o? Sketch.
The issue I ran into as a youth is this: there will always be men who were willing to date me despite a large age difference. But the GOOD men ran away (one time literally) when they found out my age, and the ones who stuck around were covered in red flags.
Personally I think it depends more on the people involved than their ages. Some people age faster and slower than others, and some people mentally mature much faster too. If people are "on the same page" then even larger gaps can sometimes be okay within reason. I think its a mistake to assume that older = more power in a relationship even if that's usually the case.
I never said it was a deal breaker, just that it's a red flag. Just like you said, it's not every time, but it is more likely. Red flag means "This might be of concern, watch out to see if this is an ongoing issue".
It absolutely depends on the people involved, yes, but the likelihood of them being on the same page becomes slimmer and slimmer as the age difference increases. And as the age difference increases and they're still compatible, the more likely it is that the younger had trauma (had to grow up too fast) and that the older is stunted (never had to grow up). Traumatized and stunted isn't always a death sentence, so they can still work even if that's the case. But again, it's a red flag and increases the likelihood of potential issues.
The more someone strays from 1/2+7 the more it has to be an exceptional case. And people always like to believe that they are the exceptional case and that they aren't like the others.
My boyfriend is 8 years older than me. There were some circumstances to our benefit, and I also have spent a lot of time doing research and monitoring that we weren't dysfunctional.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I see what you mean. That's my thought process too. I've just always thought the number fixation in society is a bit banal but its especially bbad in the US (not just relationships either). We are the sum of our experience, not the number of days we have been alive, even if those are often correlated. Age is more of a function of government than anything.
Pretty much every man seems to have the madonna-prostitute complex. They don't respect or marry the women they actually desire sexually, but they won't desire the women they marry as much as the loose women. Is there no way to win?
Statistically speaking your husband is probably going to be the one that wants more sex than you
And most men are content with their wives since most wives are basically their husband's emotional pillar
What exactly are you afraid of anyways?
True beauty is sexually attractive (granted, in a slightly different way, but still). Hotness is usually not romantically attractive. That doesn't mean men can never be romantically attracted to someone they think is hot, but the hotness is not what is driving the romantic attraction.
what you think of "hotness" will only lead to men seeing you as a way for sexual gratification (not much different from a sex toy)
that's why i don't get why so many women try to make themselves appear hot and then complain about being objectified like it isn't exactly what they're trying to play off
2 years ago
Anonymous
>being told your whole life that as a woman only your looks are worth anything
It's not easy to get rid of life-long propaganda tbh, some aren't even conscious of this.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I mean your physical appearance is important, but it isn't something basic like having huge breasts/ass and more about looking healthy and having an appealing face with a good personality and seeming like someone you'd want to spend your time with. Why would a man want to hang around bimbo #134 after he has gotten rid of his pent up lust and sees she's uninteresting and looks like shit without her huge ass and ton of makeup?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Why would a man want to hang around bimbo #134
Idk, most men seem to want exactly that even if they're in a relationship with the safe boring waifu type.
2 years ago
Anonymous
they want to frick her and then ditch her (sometimes staying for some time and then ditching her for another is easier as it's not like there are that many to choose from)
2 years ago
Anonymous
>they want to frick her and then ditch her
Yeah, seems like most men want that. maybe relationships aren't for me, this seems psycothic to me. wanting to frick and ditch someone? I wouldn't even want to do that to anyone in a million years, seems like something only a genuine psycopath would do.
2 years ago
Anonymous
if men weren't horny 24/7 or stopped caring about getting sexual release as often and with as many women as possible, most wouldn't care as much about finding a partner until much later in life
most teenagers/men in their twenties aren't looking for love (lmao); they're mostly driven by their horniness and that's reflected by how shallow they tend to be
2 years ago
Anonymous
see this guy
I love my girlfriend and would never do anything remotely resembling cheat but how do I stop looking at other girls and wanting to frick them? I feel really bad about it but I cant help it
even if they're in love, men still can't turn this constant need off and will still feel this urge to frick anyone remotely attractive that's available and that has nothing to do with romance
2 years ago
Anonymous
Don't act like men are the only ones who cheat
Yeah maybe men do it more but the difference isn't that vast especially in your 20s and 30s
Hell female infidelity is one of literature's oldest tropes
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes but men hide it and take it to the grave the ones who cheat and never get "caught".
2 years ago
Anonymous
Women lie and make men raise children who were fathered by someone
2 years ago
Anonymous
I could never do that. Not all women are like that
2 years ago
Anonymous
>#NotAllWomen
I bet you think that
2 years ago
Anonymous
I bet you'd tell your husband on the way to the hospital that the baby is a different color and just to drop you off
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nope never.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I've been told my whole life that women only want me for my money
Women are only interested in men for their sperm donations then don't give a frick about their husbands once they get their kids
Every relationship is transactional
Feels like this is more common in women 2bh given their tendency to date casually early then settle down later with two different types of men
Men just want sex with girls they love and girls they lust for
I had to look this up as I had never heard of this, but I don't think I have this. Certainly there are women that I view as more "saintly" and others that are more bawdtish, but that's the same with men. I don't really have much of an attraction towards loose women beyond base instinct, but women who I actually catch feelings for (the "Madonna") are both sexually and non sexually desirous to me. Which is what makes those women become the ones I fall for and not the bawdtish ones.
>Pretty much every man seems to have the madonna-prostitute complex. They don't respect or marry the women they actually desire sexually,
I respect and sexually crave the woman I married, so what are you talking about? Being emotionally attracted to a woman makes me want to frick her more. Is that not how it works for everyone?
>they won't desire the women they marry as much as the loose women.
There is no woman on the planet I'd rather have my dick in than my wife. There's no woman on the planet I'd rather spend my day with than my wife. It's for those reasons (and about infinitely many others) that I married her.
What kind of ridiculous men are you speaking to who could give you such a ridiculous impression of men?
She usually posts while she's at work. She hasn't been here since around noon yesterday.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Prolly got frustrated with the site being down. Or is still lurking and wants to be missed for the attention.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Or is still lurking and wants to be missed for the attention.
I doubt that. She doesn't seem to mind lots of attention as long as the topics are horny and sex-related. And the site didn't start having issues until way later.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I tried posting this morning and it wasn't working, so I took it as a sign to actually get some work done. Weird to be worried over after like a day.
She usually posts while she's at work. She hasn't been here since around noon yesterday.
Prolly got frustrated with the site being down. Or is still lurking and wants to be missed for the attention.
>Or is still lurking and wants to be missed for the attention.
I doubt that. She doesn't seem to mind lots of attention as long as the topics are horny and sex-related. And the site didn't start having issues until way later.
When she comes back tell her she is loved, please.
I planned on doing that anyway but she's probably gonna feel like she's getting compliment bombed and tell us to stop, lol.
2 years ago
Anonymous
She got a bf
2 years ago
Anonymous
I would be really happy for her.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Same as
I would be really happy for her.
. But even if she did, she would still be posting here.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah that's basically attention whoring and for guys who are or were in relationships. Says alot about them as a person tbh
2 years ago
Anonymous
It says a lot about ~~*You*~~ to want to drag her down to your low frequency. Love yourself.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're just another beta simp. Get over it
2 years ago
Anonymous
I am your mirror and holy fricking shit am I ugly. Love yourself, change the world.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're not ugly. You have facial dysmorphia, please get some help. You have an average face that any female would find attractive if they saw past your flaws.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Truth be told, she should leave this place and never look back, but I would hope to first wish her well before she does.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I agree but we both know that's never gonna happen. She has no intentions of leaving this place even if she gets the husband and child she wants.
How do I stop obsessing over her? Even thinking about her makes me smile, but I don't even know who she really is. I've literally given myself 20 minute speeches about how much I need her while I'm alone in my car, only to feel saddened by the fact that she's not there with me. That she's probably in the talking stage with 20 guys that are all better than me. I can't get her out of my fricking head. This isn't healthy
She's a girl that I met in the salvation army. We were really close while I was there, and she really took an interest in me and pushed me to pursue my artistic passions. We have the same disorders and problems so we related heavily to each other on nearly everything which is what caught me off-guard. I'm not even sure I'm into her as much as I'm just heavily attached to her.
sounds like you've got the cuck syndrome. when I have a crush on a guy and hear about him dating/talking to a "better" girl, my crush ends there.
The thing is I don't know if she really is talking to other people. I'm getting in my head over something that really doesn't exist.
If they have a healthy detachment, sure I guess. I don't really know how OF works, I assume it's possible to use in a simple "paying for porn" way, in which case I think it's great that they're supporting independent creators directly. If it's super parasocial though that's pretty ick.
Maybe. People say I'm funny, and I have no fricking idea how that happened because I used to just be super quiet and felt like I had nothing to say.
Honestly I think NSFFW had a lot to do with it, back in my /b/ days racing to either make the obvious joke the fastest or to outdo it, and having to rely on pretty universal referential humour. Plus the completely uninhibited nature of it, being able to say literally anything, I think it makes it easy on your ability to make quick connections in your mind. Obviously you have to pull that back when talking to normies, but it's easier to dial back 'too much' than to go no further than spot on.
>used to just be super quiet >NSFFW had a lot to do with it, back in my /b/ days
Not that guy, but how long ago did this change between super quiet and being funny happen to you, anon?
I'm really not sure, I only realised a year or two ago when someone called me funny at work and everyone agreed, and a short while later where my friends and I were doing speeches at an event and I was similarly shouted out. It's been a very slow and steady transition I'd say over a period of about 10 years as I grew more social and confident.
I feel you on that
I don’t want to say I’m not funny but I still want to build a sense of humor more. It’s just crazy how some people are so quick witted and can immediately just put shit together in their heads
Basically all it is is throwing shit at the wall like you said and eventually finding that things stick, and in turn this kind of sharpens your ability to say more quick witted shit
Yeah, pretty much. Practice anything often enough and you'll get faster at it.
I also watch a fair few panel shows which rely heavily on witty improvised jokes, Lee Mack on Would I Lie To You is the king of quick.
2 years ago
Anonymous
(I'm the first anon)
I see. Funny you should mention WILTY, as I seem to have turned my posturing into the overtly cynical and sarcastic form that David Mitchell has, but with absolutely none of the humourous wit. It doesn't help that it doesn't translate well into my native language though, so my humour has really been stifled and I find myself being on the quiet spectrum, missing the cues to jump in.
2 years ago
Anonymous
kek, just give it time, I feel like a lot of my humour probably started with me just being a cynical butthole
I don’t want to say I’m not funny but I still want to build a sense of humor more. It’s just crazy how some people are so quick witted and can immediately just put shit together in their heads
Basically all it is is throwing shit at the wall like you said and eventually finding that things stick, and in turn this kind of sharpens your ability to say more quick witted shit
Girls I'm hanging out with for almost 3 months is acting flirty with male members in a group chat I'm in too. She seems a lot into me, like, really a lot, but this gave me insane thinking. Do girls do this on a daily basis? I know we're not in a relationship (and that's my fault since I'll probably leave this city in some months and she wants me to stay) but this still bothers me. Like, why she have to do like this if she's into me?
Women, would you be interested in a functioning male sexbot? Of course, we guys have the female ones, so I'd assume it'd only be fair for you to have your own as well.
(also i don't mean in a 'pretend life partner' sort of way, i wouldn't want this as a replacement for a partner, just as a novel 'fling' because the idea is hot. it's like all the appeal of fricking a dog without the beastiality, a robot with the same loyal innocence, with some eerie unknowable quality that gives the whole thing a bit of spice).
It's been about 1 week or so since me and my fiance have had sex. We've been very busy but we think we can fit in a nookie sesh sometime later tonight.
However with everything being how it is I'm afraid something will come up. Should I Fap now that way I could potentially last longer in bed and also get rid of the weird dude energy building up inside me. OR should I wait till she gets home about 9 hours from now and then empty my reserves?
Pros of fapping now >Stress relief in a schedule that's really tight right now and doesn't allow for a lot of free time >Afterwards I'd be able to focus more on the chores a little better >It's been a bit since I nutted >It's been very busy lately so I'm not sure if we will even have sex later even though we're planning to >Longer sex sesh (I unfortunately cannot get hard within the refractory period after ejaculating it always takes me like another 25 minutes or something and at this point we're so tired we're probably going to go to sleep immediately after the first round)
Cons >I'd feel bad that I didn't wait for my fiance >Maybe I should use the small amount of free time I have today to do something else
Can you tell me more about how you'd feel bad you didn't wait for your fiancee?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well I'm just afraid she would notice that I'm not as Stern or rigid as I would be if I fapped and I kind of want to treat her right and give her a good experience. Also sometimes she'll make jokes about how I fapped instead of having sex with her and she's not in the wrong, it's just good Lord trying to find time for this stuff is hard this last month. On top of that when we do get periods of free time I realize that our sex habits take a little bit to get back into their rhythm since we're just used to anything else. I just wanted to take the time and make my fiance feel special because she really is to me but the same time it's like I also am kind of a coom brain and I'm just trying to get on with my day and do the chores but I I feel that this opportunity is slipping by and I'm probably not going to bang later but I also want to bang later so I don't know.
I think a good example is yesterday my fiance waited for me to get home and it took me a little later then usual to get back. I work a cashier job and my till ended up being $444.44 so I went next door to the gas station and got a lottery ticket because I felt lucky. It was like five bucks and took like 7 minutes at the most. But by the time I got home I had to use the restroom and then my fiance had fallen asleep and when she woke up she had to go to a baby shower and we ended up not having enough time to have sex or anything. I ended up trying to clean the house because we have guests coming over and they're going to be staying for 2 weeks but I couldn't even do that I just ended up moving slow and couldn't do anything. I literally moved two boxes and then like had to lie down, we've been kind of burning the candle on both ends.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I really don't see why the 7 minutes was much of an effect. It's kind of her fault that she chose to take a nap. Did you take 45 minutes in the bathroom or something?
This whole situation sucks. I can't really relate with her taking it personally because if we don't have time/energy or we don't make time/energy to have sex, then I can't blame him for jerking off. I also never ever would make a comment about him not being hard enough, what the frick is that? I know dicks are a huge sore spot for men, I'd never say anything that has the potential to make him insecure. That's just basic decency.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I was in there for like 20 minutes and I think she was sleeping by the time I got home already maybe I don't know. As far as her comment goes well we're both pretty straight shooters and our filters have comfortably fallen off about a year ago with each other. I don't take it as a bad thing though we both kind of let each other have it but we always talk it out and work through things. We communicate sometimes it's a bit blunt but we do.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well I'm just afraid she would notice that I'm not as Stern or rigid as I would be if I fapped and I kind of want to treat her right and give her a good experience. Also sometimes she'll make jokes about how I fapped instead of having sex with her and she's not in the wrong, it's just good Lord trying to find time for this stuff is hard this last month. On top of that when we do get periods of free time I realize that our sex habits take a little bit to get back into their rhythm since we're just used to anything else. I just wanted to take the time and make my fiance feel special because she really is to me but the same time it's like I also am kind of a coom brain and I'm just trying to get on with my day and do the chores but I I feel that this opportunity is slipping by and I'm probably not going to bang later but I also want to bang later so I don't know.
I think a good example is yesterday my fiance waited for me to get home and it took me a little later then usual to get back. I work a cashier job and my till ended up being $444.44 so I went next door to the gas station and got a lottery ticket because I felt lucky. It was like five bucks and took like 7 minutes at the most. But by the time I got home I had to use the restroom and then my fiance had fallen asleep and when she woke up she had to go to a baby shower and we ended up not having enough time to have sex or anything. I ended up trying to clean the house because we have guests coming over and they're going to be staying for 2 weeks but I couldn't even do that I just ended up moving slow and couldn't do anything. I literally moved two boxes and then like had to lie down, we've been kind of burning the candle on both ends.
She called me on my lunch and I confessed my stressors and she said I could use her panties to nut in.
>ugly face >no boobs or ass >bad spine, bad teeth >no social skills whatsoever >no confidence >no interests >overall pretty boring and hard to talk to >pretty stupid and bitter
Just realized I'm 21 and I'm a kissless virgin. Never had male friends either. Never confessed to. The only time I got a compliment from a non-relative man was from a salesman trying to scam me. It's all over, isn't it
Just post your pic on /soc/ and realize your sexual value as a young female is insanely high despite all of your perceived flaws. Also for men, sexual value and romantic value are highly correlated.
no thx
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oh, so you actually had the stretch marks when you were still fat? I thought they only appeared when you lost weight?
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makeup, fashion and a sweet personality can go a long way even if you're uggers
anyway you just sound depressed/anxious, I'm sure once you tackle that more (very normal to experience in early 20s) other things will fall into place
, being nice to a man will get you very far. Unless your face is hideously deformed you could seriously just be nice and sweet and a lot of guys will at least be open to dating you.
What are your thoughts on love bites during sex? I’m not in a relationship, but I really like the idea, but then I thought about asking my partner cause that’d be hot too and I’m pretty sure not everyone would be into giving than receiving bites idk.
Male. Yes I like them so long as they’re not too painful. I’ll do basically anything a girl wants as long as it’s not degrading, painful, or unhygienic. If she wants me to bite her anywhere I will.
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Yes, I'll judge both. The girl is a golddigger who's sucking that guy off of his money (most women do, even after marriage).
She isn't giving guys her age a chance, and they end up on this board, being a virgin.
And the guy is a loser who can't attract women his age. Cuz they know how big of a loser he is.
Is a girl with bad posture really unattractive?
I think I have weak back muscles or something because mine is horrendous if I'm not really concentrated on it
It's like this girls. This is what made me ask the question because mine is similar
you probably just meant to ask men, but imo as a girl it's definitely in the top 10 things that most affect how people perceive you. I used to have "gamer posture", but going to gym and doing back exercises helped strengthen my back muscles and now I don't slouch as much anymore.
You should really work on it. The more you concentrate on it the more likely you will do it on your own. It's also not unlikely that you're doing it wrong. A lot of people try to have "good posture" by only holding their shoulders back and find it painful to hold because they still have their hips tucked under.
Man, this makes me jealous. With my hip all fricked up I cant stand up straight right right now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What's wrong with your hip?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not sure but I think I have a pinched nerve. I almost blacked out in the shower yesterday from the pain. Have you ever had pain so intense it game you instant dry mouth? It was a good thing I was in the shower and had 3 walls to bounce off of while I was getting wobbly.
2 years ago
Anonymous
NTA but I've definitely experienced that kind of pain before. Recovering from a broken femur is hell, even with oxy. If there isn't any obvious injury pinched nerve is a decent guess. I'd try to keep off of it for a while.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Moving my leg backwards or pushing my pelvis forward seams to aggravate it the most. So standing up straight wont work for me right now. I hope it recovers enough that I can walk the day after tomorrow, because I have work.
I had a sprain in my back and I think that weakness caused it when I was lifting weights. I think that I then slept on it wrong which bought it out then the shower scene made it go atomic. So im a cripple at the moment.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh yeah, definitely keep off of it then. It needs time to recover, you probably did frick it up by trying to lift with a sprain in your back.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Last time I had one, gotten the same way, It was in my neck and I could not sleep. This time I can actually find positions that are comfortable so I am hopeful.
Idk what it's called, but I use this machine. I basically do "reverse pushups" by lowering my torso, and then going up until my whole body is straight like a stick, and then down again. deadlifts are also great for back muscles and generally almost any muscle as well.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The weight section of my gym is too intimidating to venture to for deadlifts but I will definitely try these reverse crunches things. Thank you!
2 years ago
Anonymous
oh, that's a shame.. but I know the feeling. my current gym has a separate deadlift room and thankfully it's almost always empy. but yeah it's probably the best exercise, so I still suggest to go for it if you can find any opportunity.
Or she coud get a ab wheel
never used those, but I guess they would work as well especially at home.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Or just do planks mby, it's not like beginner who works a office job needs tools to make herself sweat
2 years ago
Anonymous
Planks are shit for building muscle.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What do you suggest
2 years ago
Anonymous
actual back exercises, most of them require weights. which aren't scary lol.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sit-ups or crunches would be better for building abdominal muscles, especially weighted. For shoulders and chest push-ups, pull-ups, or really lifting any kind of weight with your arms above your head. That will help your trapezius too if you want that, and the pull-ups can help with the lattisimus dorsi. But really the best options here are compound lifts like overhead press and deadlift.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What do you suggest
Also squats are a really good one. They tend to focus more on the legs but can definitely work on the upper body as well.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Or she coud get a ab wheel
2 years ago
Anonymous
I actually have one of these but I never use it
2 years ago
Anonymous
Is this a training machine for fricking?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lol I can see why you think that because of the hands
Did you see how many people were simping for that Rya character from Elden Ring? Posture is not a big deal, but you should do some exercuses because its not good for your own health
you probably just meant to ask men, but imo as a girl it's definitely in the top 10 things that most affect how people perceive you. I used to have "gamer posture", but going to gym and doing back exercises helped strengthen my back muscles and now I don't slouch as much anymore.
You should really work on it. The more you concentrate on it the more likely you will do it on your own. It's also not unlikely that you're doing it wrong. A lot of people try to have "good posture" by only holding their shoulders back and find it painful to hold because they still have their hips tucked under.
not that anon, but these sort of compliments always worry me because i know so many guys are triggered by being called "nice"/"a great guy"/"a good friend" since those are so often used as brush offs lol
There's not really a way to do it, just say what you think. Guys don't get complements very often so almost whatever you say will be appreciated, trust me.
Some of the answers so far have been good. "You're a good guy", "I like talking to you/spending time with you", or you can take it a step further with "I like you" if you want him to ask you out. Hugs definitely work too for a lot of guys.
You don't have to make a complex and grand poem
Just say what's on your mind
"You've got cute hair" or "you've got such big and strong arms" or whatever
I'm certain this question has been asked plenty of times before, but I haven't been here for it.
Women, your bf comes over for the first time and you start cuddling together on the couch, you aren't having sex yet and you haven't done much cuddling yet, if any. He pops a boner and it's very obvious, you can feel it poking you. How would you react? Would it be flattering, gross, weird? Would you ignore it or give him a funny look, or say something about it? My preference would be if we both just pretended we didn't notice, but I don't know what women think about it.
I'd probably just feel flattered/excited. If I'm cuddling close enough to feel that, I'm into you to the point of wanting to be physically close and to eventually have sex. That said, unless I wanted to try and escalate it right then and there I'd probably largely ignore it, maybe quietly smirk to myself (in a good way). I might do a subtle something just to reassure that everything's fine (eg, holding you just a little bit closer).
I don’t know what this girl wants from me. She later replied with:
“I had a big-ass reply to send. However, this isn't worth my time and energy. This is all so stupid. Since I've actually moved on, I won't linger on this any longer”
I love my girlfriend and would never do anything remotely resembling cheat but how do I stop looking at other girls and wanting to frick them? I feel really bad about it but I cant help it
Just love your gf in everyday possible. The grass ain't greener on there other side. You'll regret cheating on her and you might not feel guilty, I've come to realise some people don't and they deny it too. Cuddle with her, be patient.
is it ever a good idea to "too nice" (basically as nice as I am to other women) to men if you're in a relationship?
for example there is this cashier in my local small grocery store, and he's always really friendly to me and I'm friendly in return. however now he's started to do things like packing up my groceries for me, so I wonder if I've crossed a line being "too nice", or if he's just doing that as a nice gesture
well then he's probably either genuinely being nice, or he's a shameless creep. it should be pretty easy to tell which one from the vibes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
..I can't tell. so can't decide if I should stop being nice. maybe I'd lean more into the "Just being nice" option though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
aint broke, don't fix it. he knows you have a bf, so if he's simping it's his own mistake. if he tries anything funny, you can cross that bridge if you come to it. and if he's genuinely just being nice, you don't wanna make things weird by assuming he's got ulterior motives.
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/jeff-bezos-divorce-and-cheating-scandal-everything-we-know/cheating-news/ >she has billions of dollars, villas, luxury cars, luxury furnitures and clothes, fame and fortune, everything she wants >her husband cheated on her
I don't have any of those things but at least I'm 100% sure that my husband would never cheat on me. God is very, very good and just it seems. Am I a bad person for feeling like this?
>God is very, very good and just
that was just inevitability as, with his wealth and the social circles he probably spends his time in, he'd have the opportunity to frick 10/10s left and right without even trying
unless he found being completely loyal to be extremely important he had no real reason not to at some point
If I had billions of dollars I probably would not be monogamous. I would probably have a harem of wives (all consenting of course) and 500 children minimum. Jeff’s problem is he married a woman and told her he’d be monogamous. I don’t know why he would do that. Seems moronic of him when he can have as much young fertile pussy as he wants.
pretty much this
unless i suddenly fell in love with someone i would never risk losing a huge amount of money and assets just to officially tie the knot with someone
>and 500 children minimum
I was gonna say that's too many children, but if you had just $1bil to spare, that's $2mil for each of your kids, wtf
and jeffy boi is worth $148bil
If I had billions of dollars I probably would not be monogamous. I would probably have a harem of wives (all consenting of course) and 500 children minimum. Jeff’s problem is he married a woman and told her he’d be monogamous. I don’t know why he would do that. Seems moronic of him when he can have as much young fertile pussy as he wants.
To have 500 kids you'd probably need to have a minimum of like 50 women and keep them pregnant basically all the time for a decade.
2 years ago
Anonymous
you say that like it'd be a challenge
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm just saying that's crazy. That's a lot of women, and 10 years is a long time to stay pregnant.
2 years ago
Anonymous
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To have 500 kids you'd probably need to have a minimum of like 50 women and keep them pregnant basically all the time for a decade.
Only problem I see is financial. And possibly legal, you can't just have 50 wives
2 years ago
Anonymous
You don't have to marry a woman to get her pregnant. And if you have billions of dollars, how are you going to have financial problems there?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm neither of those anons, saw 500 children and 50 pregnant women for 10 years post and got intrigued.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I think there's a few of us interested in crunching these numbers at this point. I wonder how many kids would end up sharing birthdays.
2 years ago
Anonymous
you don't have to wife someone to knock them up though. but i'm not sure how child support works when multiple mothers are involved. obviously there's plenty of money to go around, but if they're entitled to a percentage, the mothers could unionise and destroy me.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You can’t just have 50 wives
I’ll move to somewhere I can. Easy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I mean, if I have access to $150bil, I'm sure I can find 500 different women to get pregnant. Send them to a doc to work out their cycles, frick a different one every night, and it should work itself out.
...Man, imagine having 499 half siblings.
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
That does actually read like a line from Archer, lol.
2 years ago
Anonymous
If you can find potential octomoms, you could cut those down to just 62.5 women for a one time thing
>Have a million children >Have enough money to pay people to raise them for you All whilst ignoring them and continuously going through your harem and impregnating them over and over
If I had billions of dollars I probably would not be monogamous. I would probably have a harem of wives (all consenting of course) and 500 children minimum. Jeff’s problem is he married a woman and told her he’d be monogamous. I don’t know why he would do that. Seems moronic of him when he can have as much young fertile pussy as he wants.
Maybe I'm weird but if I somehow came into money like that I think I'd end up giving a lot of it away or investing it in startups or something. Like, Once I have enough so that I can live comfortably in a nice house that I own and have the lifestyle I want, beyond that the money is just meaningless to me.
If I had billions of dollars I probably would not be monogamous. I would probably have a harem of wives (all consenting of course) and 500 children minimum. Jeff’s problem is he married a woman and told her he’d be monogamous. I don’t know why he would do that. Seems moronic of him when he can have as much young fertile pussy as he wants.
Also it wouldn't change my desire as far as monogamy. I want a wife and a minimum of three kids, I'm not interested in sleeping around or poly shit or anything like that.
Monogamy is fun and all until you’re 10 years into a relationship and you have a billion dollars and 18 year old 10/10 pure virgins are walking up to you with their underwear in their mouth
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'd feel like I would have bigger things on my mind than sex
We really just have ooga booga mindsets
2 years ago
Anonymous
I wouldn't end up in that situation and if I did I'd tell her to put her clothes back on and figure out a better way to live her life. I'm not interested in sex with someone I don't love.
same, the thing is, this attitude is why we'll never be billionaires, because people who make that kinda money are the kind for whom nothing is ever enough.
Yeah, kinda like how the people that should have the most power are the ones who don't want it, while the people who do gain power are the ones who absolutely should not have it.
she might feel pressured to let you go further than she's comfortable with if you come off wrong after showing her you're not only taller and stronger, but also armed
Is volcel a reasonable lifestyle? My ex took ever out of me. Seeing how most men act irl, cheating, no drive, immature, etc. makes me not want to date ever. Especially after being on here for most of my life. I am emotionally and physically exhausted from my one relationship and most men I interact with. At this point I just want a sperm donor and to never open up to another man again.
Anyone a long term volcel?
I dealt with suicidal ideation during the lockdowns. I was angry and sad and hopeless every single day for a year or so. But since then I've mostly been happy. Is suicidal ideation still a red flag even if it's situational?
It is anon. Get some help reach out to professional even if it's just for a month and you can't fully afford it. Your mind is going through a lot and it's stressful to your overall health.
You should be careful if you do that. You have to eat clean, not processed foods or fast foods. You probably have a strong stomach but over time you'll damage your digestive system if you don't eat clean, unless you have a strong stomach and well genetics.
Speaking of which, why aren't women forming official harems anymore?
You get access to Chad and his superior genes and you wouldn't have to focus all your energy on pleasing him
Because some women really do want a monogamous relationship with one man and that's all. It's easier for people who are "free spirits" or whatever, not everyone is like that.
Do these women seriously think life would be better with Brad in a shitty cheap apartment than getting some access with Elon Musk and like in a fricking spaceship?
I would join a harem if the man gave me an allowance and paid for any surgery I wanted. this did happen with one wealthy man who had an actual harem a few years ago btw.
Lmao
What a stupid lie to tell to yourself
You're wearing such clothes to feel desirable by other men but they can't touch you because you're in relationship
>implying i'd touch 90% of men even if i weren't in a relationship
my bf literally bought me a short, skin-tight dress and told me to wear it to dinner with him, and when i showed up with pantyhose on underneath it he told me to go to the bathroom and take them off.
They're all prostitutes in their nature, but they're hypocritical in the sense that they only want Chad's attention, which is how you get stories of men being creeps for only following their instinct.
You should approach the loose ones or stare at their exposed parts anyway. Watch how quickly they'll get uncomfortable and try to cover up.
>girls: *dress like bawds and cheap hookers* >also girls: ughh omgzerzzz why are men only looking at us like sexual objects -.- such creeps ughhh
Omegalul
2 years ago
Anonymous
men >say they don't want to date cheap hookers
also men >cheat with the cheap hookers, pay them the most attention, and are the most sexually attracted to them, while claiming to love their trad waifu
2 years ago
Anonymous
sex doesn't mean that much emotionally for most men; they want to frick them, but they don't inherently care about them and that sexual attention doesn't really translate to romantic attraction
2 years ago
Anonymous
doesn't seem like it'd be a good idea to spend your life with a man then since they're quaranteed to cheat, since they're fine with using someone sexually without actually liking them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Don't act as if women aren't this way either
2 years ago
Anonymous
>women do muh bad thing so it's fine for men to do!!!
You're a moron. obviously I don't advocate for men or women cheating. but men as a gender cheat more.
2 years ago
Anonymous
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NTA but I don't understand this argument >Femanon: "Dating seems pointless because men cheat" >Anons: "Women cheat too!"
Great, sounds like dating is pointless for everyone.
It's not a "cheating is good thing"
It's a "don't generalize" thing
Men suck women suck
But individually we are our own people
2 years ago
Anonymous
They're even worse about it considering how easy it is for them to get men to basically use as masturbation tools. Pretty sure women pump and dump more than men do now.
>women do muh bad thing so it's fine for men to do!!!
You're a moron. obviously I don't advocate for men or women cheating. but men as a gender cheat more.
>but men as a gender cheat more.
Only because of older men skewing it up, and even then it's almost certainly because of dead bedrooms. Young women cheat more than young men.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'd say it's more because men regardless of gender are most attracted to 20 y/o women and younger. which is even more reason to not get married, because in 10 years your man will probably be cheating already if you can't pass for a teenager anymore.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>because in 10 years your man will probably be cheating already if you can't pass for a teenager anymore
is this the blackpill version for femanons?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I guess so. and men talk as if it's ideal to ""lock down"" a man in your 20's. you'll just feel even shittier once your husband of 10+ years starts eyeing up younger women and teens.
2 years ago
Anonymous
As a man, I can emphatize with that, but you also have to consider most men will be available for you unless you're desfigured, morbidly obese or extremely ugly.
Meanwhile your hypothetical husband has much less chances of doing anything with another woman since she will also have many more options than your husband.
2 years ago
Anonymous
men in general get much less sexual attention from women than women get from men. wouldn't you think that it makes men less likely to resist such a situation? women have to reject men every day, but most men wouldn't turn down a woman suggesting sex even if he's in a relationship bc it rarely happens to him.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's true, it's also biological though, men have higher libido.
2 years ago
Anonymous
it's also biological that women feel less attracted to bald men. just because it's "natural" doesn't make it a good thing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>men in general get much less sexual attention from women than women get from men. wouldn't you think that it makes men less likely to resist such a situation? women have to reject men every day, but most men wouldn't turn down a woman suggesting sex even if he's in a relationship bc it rarely happens to him.
yes, the man will probably have it harder to resist that temptation, but you have to consider the intervals. You may go all your life with your husband not having more than ONE option to cheat, and if he's strong enough in that moment and refuses, you have 10/20 years until the next chance (which decreases with every passing year)
meanwhile you as a woman will have thousands of options per month. I think you'll have a lot more of chances to fall back into infidelity the mometn your husband does something that really bothers you, leaving him all alone while you go to some other dude.
I think the blackpill in this sense affects more men than women, now that you made me think about it lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
Women are attracted to older and richer men and there are always older guys until you're 70 where is where the cheating numbers drop off
2 years ago
Anonymous
>your man will probably be cheating already if you can't pass for a teenager anymore.
only if you're not sleeping with him any more and/or he has them constantly come after him (which doesn't happen if he isn't very good looking or rich)
2 years ago
Anonymous
Don't act like men are the only ones who cheat
Yeah maybe men do it more but the difference isn't that vast especially in your 20s and 30s
Hell female infidelity is one of literature's oldest tropes
NTA but I don't understand this argument >Femanon: "Dating seems pointless because men cheat" >Anons: "Women cheat too!"
Great, sounds like dating is pointless for everyone.
2 years ago
Anonymous
they just fundamentally view sex differently
sex isn't just part of a relationship, but a physical need that is constantly bothering them regardless of their romantic feelings and, depending on their personality, is almost separate from the object of their desire as a person
2 years ago
Anonymous
This isn't helping, now I just see all men as psychopaths. I couldn't imagine loving someone who is able to have sex and not care about the other person in any way.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I couldn't imagine being so impaired to recognize the truth that I have to gaslight people around me into thinking I'm right about everything but here we are.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>gaslighting
yes, the narcissistic tactic that you're currently employing. couldn't expect any less from men.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm not gaslighting lol, didn't even read what the conversation was, I just saw the last thing you said and decided to shit on you randomly with a foid generalization, your welcome.
2 years ago
Anonymous
don't worry, you aren't special.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes I am
2 years ago
Anonymous
most men just think it's how everyone feels and that's why they're so paranoid about their so cheating on them with someone hotter/muscular
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah, the psychopaths are just the only men females grant the access of their flowers to. You hate nice, intelligent men who would actually love you and then you're surprised when you get abused for the choice you made? You deserve it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>i'm a nice guy who hates women
Yeah, very intelligent indeed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Most intelligent men throughout history hated females, as any man with a brain would.
>flowers
Jesus Christ, yeah it's women fault you're a virgin, not the fact that you're an absolute psycho.
Not a virgin nor am I a psycho. This is just the worst timeline ever for men to date. You don't have to be a virgin incel neet to see it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>flowers
Jesus Christ, yeah it's women fault you're a virgin, not the fact that you're an absolute psycho.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I dress modestly and so do some of the women I seen in my city or another big city i used to reside in, not all women dress proactively. Why are you seething anon? Is because you want those type of women and they want you?
because sometimes I like feeling like his eye candy, basically. and the biggest reason why I don't wear sexy clothes alone is because I would get harassed, but it doesn't happen if I'm with him.
I'm not trying to say there's anything really wrong with what you're doing, but the reason you feel like eye candy and the reason you're being harassed are the same. Men give you this attention when you dress like this because you're triggering their instinct that tells them you're trying to tell them you're available for easy sex without having to take any responsibility.
If a girl in a relationship had a profile picture of her with bf, a status with hearts mentioning him, posted often fawning over him, then took those off and stopped posting about him at all, is it reasonable to assume they broke up? >inb4 just ask her moron
I will, just wanted to ponder beforehand, obviously the default assumption is that they're still together. And she doesn't live in the same city as me and is a bit avoidant with basically all her friends so it's a pretty hard question to ask directly.
Men are more likely to leave their wife is she becomes sick (you're 6x more likely to get abandoned if you're a woman instead of man). if that isn't blackpilling, i don't know what is.
I've only ever heard incels saying that.
sounds like you have a cuck fetish honestly.
2 years ago
Anonymous
cuckolds are hated by women because they fetishize women's true nature
>yeah if a woman's bf is beaten she will want to frick the guy who beat him up
Femanon posted a study to back up her claim. Where's yours?
the femanons that one time said they have a fantasy of their bf being beaten and taking her away
2 years ago
Anonymous
Cucks are also the ones most likely to spread their fantasies on the internet. congrats.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm not a fricking cuck in my ideal world infidelity is not real
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Femanon cites science >You cite (self-admitted ONE) anecdote of a woman with a cuck fetish, not to mention no proof it wasn't a troll
?????
2 years ago
Anonymous
my source is that I fricking made it up
if it makes sense in my mind I think it's true
women unanimously like dominant aggressive men, why wouldn't they frick the guy who beat their bf and made him "submissive"
why would age matter in this situation? it shows that men abandon their wives more often than women abandon their husbands. if anything, you'd think that the group who would abandon their wives less would be the group of 50 y/o married men.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It was 50 year old men who just recently got married to a 50 year old woman
Pretty much by that age you're just looking for someone to eat with while you age
2 years ago
Anonymous
I still don't see why there is a gender disparity, other than because men are less attached to their wives in general.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It was 50 year old men who just recently got married to a 50 year old woman
nta but which part of the study points to that?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Iirc the article gives a description profiling the men and typically it's a 50+ year old male who's been married less than 5 years
I recognize this poster from LULZ
I still don't see why there is a gender disparity, other than because men are less attached to their wives in general.
Idk
This isn't going to be a very conclusive study considering it only had 515 subjects
2 years ago
Anonymous
To me, if one group is 6x more likely to do something in a study of 500 than another group, it does have a result that indicates systemic behavior.
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 million Americans get cancer every year
This was a sample of size less than .02%
2 years ago
Anonymous
You don’t need a certain percentage to get a statistically valid s sample of the entire United States. Depending on how much error you are willing to tolerate and how many subgroups you want to look at a number between 500 and 2500 randomly selected individual is enough to make statements that are well supported about the US population. The bigger problems these days are things like response rates, modes of administration, and sample frames.
All this talk about psychopaths is always so negative. There's a regular anon who's a psycho and this is all very insensitive to his moronic brand of trigaygery (especially considering we're in atoga).
I do wonder why people have to be so negative. Years ago I was with some friends, male, and just became aware of how they constantly poke each other, tearing each other down. Since then I have always tried to be more positive and build people up.
>Psychopathy is a neuropsychiatric disorder marked by deficient emotional responses, lack of empathy, and poor behavioral controls, commonly resulting in persistent antisocial deviance and criminal behavior.
sounds like most men.
if women aren't unattracted to introversion and virginity show me a romance (made for women, not this self insert homosexual shit made for losers) where the male lead is shy/introverted and a virgin (but it's not treated as him being some fricking loser)
high school romance doesn't fricking count because of course a 16 year old is a virgin
I don't watch basically any romance movies or series, but it is often romanticized in film. take red dragon for example. in it the blonde woman (forgot her name) is clearly excited by the guy's inexperience and implied virginity, and her taking on a more active role in their sex encounter is shown as erotic. and since you're probably an incel, take the movie being centered around hannibal, a serial killer, as an indicator that lots of women have watched it lol.
Too jealous for it, sounds like it could messy really quick. But I'm a manprostitute myself, and sometimes the idea of swinging sounds nice because I've been pounding the same puss for like 5 years.
Cont. From last thread. I'm a 24 year old virgin who's afraid of getting intimate with girls due to the risks involved. What do I do to get over it?
Accept that you are going to die. You will eventually be dead. Why waste your life worrying about trivial bullshit. If you really love a girl, you will also love her sexually transmitted diseases.
What "risks" do you fear? I can empathise but it's mostly just in your head and social anxiety I think. Instead of worrying about sex right away why not start with smaller steps/goals to get over the physical intimacy fear? e.g. next time you're out with someone or on a date try to sit closer to them if they're responding well and touch their arm/waist etc.
3 off the top of my head. Incurable stds for one, Getting dinged for sexual assault if the girl regrets getting with me, and having to show her my gut and stretch marks. That would be humiliating.
>my gut and stretch marks
loose weight mother fricker
you're 24 your skin elasticity won't be able to repair as well in the near future but you still have time right now to fix it
You're right. I'll go hit the gym now. Thanks for getting me off my ass.
LET'S GO, WE GO JIMMM
Nta, but I am hitting the gym but the damage is done. How do I cope with loose skin and stretch marks?
how old are you and how much do you weigh?
Lifting weights will also cause your skin to tighten as well
25, 172cm weighting 76kg. Used to weight ~105kg. Been lifting for about 9 months and chest still looks pathetic, nevermind the stomach
that's not TOO bad, but I presume you're a euro so you guys aren't as fat as us so it's more noticeable when someone has a bit of tub
>you're a euro
Yeah, people here tend to take a lot more care of their appearance. But with clothing I look decent, problem is I don't feel like I could be completely naked in front of anyone, so that would complicate things when I want to have sex
well the upside is that guys your size get jacked pretty easily, so just lift and you'll lose weight, repair your skin, and get muscles
I'll keep lifting and hope for the best then. Thanks for the encouragement, anon
nta, I'm not an expert on this but don't people have stetch marks from losing weight? I always see it as a positive tbh, shows the person was able to lose a lot of weight. And aesthetically I've never found them unattractive or whatever.
Dis homie doing the cha cha slide
>but don't people have stetch marks from losing weight?
nope
as a former THICC boy I got mine from being fat
you can also get them from lifting weights though
Wait, pregnancy didn't make the list?
Morning frens. Hope you all have a good day.
Still have a pinched nerve in my leg but I have 2 days to rest and hopefully its better when I go back to work. Great day yesterday when I got off. She, asked me if I there was something wrong with me, actual concern in her voice. Just felt so good.
women, do you ever rest your breasts on your desk when they feel heavy?
No. But I would if I wasn't so fricking flat.
Hot
Then I apologise but most girls won't even let you.
Go to gym or acquire severe mental issues. Or both like I did.
>Then I apologise but most girls won't even let you.
let me kiss them or let me apologize?
>cis bf seems to be an asexual who misidentified himself as bisexual or something
>he used to be sexual before I met him but I guess drugs and alcohol killed his libido and gave him erectile dysfunction
>still is romantic I guess, which is why he agrees to be my boyfriend
>I really want to frick him
>don't want to make him feel bad by making him take viagra
>buy it secretly
>crush it and mix it in his alcohol
>he is really drunk though
>I ask him if we can try
>"maybe if I stimulate it a bit it will get up"
>"mhm"
>it's working
>he's out of shape and drunk so he struggles to frick me while standing I guess
>I pull him down and lay him on the bed
>ride him
>he says nothing the whole time
>he's apparently going to cum
>come off of him
>ok, I'll rub it
>he cums onto his tummy
>I lick it off and eat it
>he grabs me and pulls me closer
>he hugs me
>doesn't say anything
>just hug him back in bed
>he falls asleep
Did I do something wrong? I mean not to make him upset. But was this wrong? It was the first time I had sex
I would have fricked him while he was sober, but he is virtually never sober. He is always drunk and high and I can't seem to get him to stop drugging
This might be the saddest post I’ve read on here
>cis bf seems to be an asexual who misidentified himself as bisexual or something
why do you keep using twitter words?
I originally wrote this to post it on /lgbt/ and forgot to censor it to /adv/'s sensibilities.
Meaning, you forgot to hide that you are mentally ill? Go get your life unfricked.
You're the one getting triggered by some words.
He’s gay honey. Move on.
He has a lot of issues. I don't think you did anything wrong other than involuntarily drugging him.
They won't let you kiss them.
>They won't let you kiss them.
has that ever happened to you?
If so how to do go back to normal?
Personally, no. I've never had a girl I wanted to kiss reject my kiss. But I've had girls tell me afterwards that whilst they enjoyed the kiss and whatever else we had done that night that they don't want to continue down that path.
I just tell them no worries I and thank them for being so upfront. Then I just go back to treating them like normal, just pretend it never happened. I'm not emotionally invested in them that much so I don't feel it as a big loss.If they didn't want to be my friend again I would be more upset or if they just ghosted me or if I had been seeing them for a while.
M
Very cute.
I wouldn't assume tons of negative things but to me it's a reasonable negative since I don't like party girls which is what I would associate with it. But if it's a once off, I could just let it pass.
ok, now tell me, as a man, how do you dance with women?
or is it just grinding?
Fricked if I know. I just copy what people are doing around me. I suck at it. The times I've dance with girls, I've just held their waist and they put their arms around my neck and we just swayed to the music and I took my chance to feel her up a bit more.
so what, you just slow dance?
when do I cha cha real smooth?
How to dance
>Left foot forward
>Right foot forward
>Left foot back
>Right foot back
>Hips slightly dipped
>Ideally one hand on her hip or holding her hand
Congrats bro you can dance now
>used to be sexual before I met him but I guess drugs and alcohol killed his libido and gave him erectile dysfunction
Yikes, one does not simply become "asexual" like this; guy is probably mentally ill and repressing trauma, has he gotten any help?
>he's out of shape
Does he work out? What's his diet like? That should be a priority fixing too
>and drunk
Is he an alcoholic?
Anyway there is a lot to unpack here...
I can understand your frustrations but spiking him with viagra is very sus lol, and doing that instead of just being able to bring it up with him signals communication issues. You don't have to stay with this guy if it's too frustrating but clearly there are issues to resolve here before potentially developing a healthy sex life on top of that.
Moe
I remember one girl I dated got so embarrassed when she hiccuped but it was cute
>surely this girl dosen't like me, I'm just some nice dude in her dm's
>she likes me
>I'm still just a "nice guy"
I should've just walked away from her why am I such a moron
Source is Elizabeth Reed btw. She's a camgirl.
To the girls:
It always feels like girls move on way quicker and have an easier time adjusting after breakups. Have you guys just simply never considered anyone you were together with your soulmate, wanted them to be with you forever, done everything you could and mourned their loss for months and even years on end? Or is that just a masculine thing?
I'd say I mourned my first (and, so far, only) love for about 18 months, with the relationship itself being only 12, but we broke up right before covid so I think that played a big role in my inertia and nostalgia for the life I'd had right beforehand. Granted, I've moved on my now, and meanwhile said ex is still trying to contact his ex before me from about 6 years prior lel.
I see, thanks for the response. Also, do you ever go back in mind and think about your possible mistakes and what could've been? It's smth I've been struggling with myself so I wanted to ask for some advice :0
I did for a while, but ever since letting go of romantic feelings for him, I really don't think about it at all. Not even the lifestyle I could have had with him (which was very similar to what I've always dreamed of building for myself. And I actually think is a really good thing, because it confirms that I was genuinely in love with him and our potential, and that I wasn't just dazzled by the idea of skipping ahead in my life goals by coasting off his accomplishments).
The breakup was his decision and all to do with things he was dealing with independently of me/us. He made it clear that it wasn't because of anything I had or hadn't done, it just wasn't gonna work out. And I believe him, we were great to each other. That really confused me at first, because if things were so great then what's the problem, why couldn't we just stay together. But in the time since, the emotion has faded and I've come to see more clearly that we're quite different people and yeah it just wouldn't have worked in the long term.
There's certainly lessons I've taken from it, but no regrets, nothing I'd call a mistake or that I'd say jeopardised us. I'd say I learned that I have to watch out for not allowing myself to disappear into a relationship. I kinda neglected my life outside of him while we were together, and was a bit too eager to learn about him and his life and support him without expecting much in return. I wouldn't say that's a problem though, I was just swept away by normal first love feelings and learning to balance it, you don't just tightrope between two skyscrapers on your first try.
Even in the early days after the breakup, something I kept coming back to for comfort was simply the fact that the experience confirmed I was capable of loving someone, and how fortunate I felt for having been able to experience that, and the fact that I knew I was capable of surviving the pain of losing it. Basically pic related lol.
Lies my ex moved on, I think he's getting married so hmm huh.
how many guys have you been with between then?
Zero. I'm getting help because of what happened
what happened?
Post gender, and how you feel when the opposite gender has the hiccups.
Male, think it's adorable.
F. I want to scare and/or tickle the hiccups out of him, if I'm not allowed to just rest my ear on his chest and get intimately jumpscared by them.
M
I like seeing their boobs go all over the place when they hiccup
Guys, if a coworker came in on a Monday and mentioned she feels like shit, and when you asked why she stupidly mentioned she's hungover as frick, would you assume a ton of negative things about her?
Nope. Been there.
Not really. Are you expecting me to say she's probably a prostitute or something? I know a girl who does this all the time and it's just because she stays up all night drinking and watching stupid shit on the internet.
Which, to be fair, I do think is kind of negative, but not really anything I care about one way or the other.
Getting hungover-drunk on a Sunday night is a negative but it's hardly the worst thing in the world, kind of annoying if you need to rely on her for work.
If it's every Monday, yes. In general, no, I've also partied and drunk more than my due without doing anything regrettable
No lol, that's pretty normal (and been me more times than I'd like to admit...)
When I worked as a receptionist and waiter a lot of us were going out partying in the week lol and sometimes would go out after work
Obviously if your job is something more serious like guarding nuclear missiles or something then it's a bit more irresponsible
You don't have to have casual sex then, you can get tested with someone in/going into a relationship. Also so long as you try to communicate, be honest and preferably have some friends around seeing how you interact etc. I think the chances of getting gone for assault is pretty slim.
Also don't be embarrassed about the stretch marks, nothing wrong with that, if they react negatively then consider it a bullet dodged.
Damn I feel this
If it happened pretty frequently I might make some negative assumptions, but once? Nah, nothing wrong with that.
Femanons, how do you feel about cold approaching?
I've had some fun conversations that way, but I've never been cold approached by a guy that I ended up going on a date with. I've approached guys that way and gotten dates, though.
I see, thanks femanon
interdasting...
Guess I'll have to just keep at it lol
One time this girl at a train station kept glancing at me so I approached her and complimented her on her jacket and she was receptive, but when our train came I pussied out and said 'this is my train haha cya'
damn...
Not a femanon but my last date told me smth about this. She's a really attractive and especially cute 5'4 8/10 tiny piece of joy with cute innocent eyes. People would stare at her when we drove around. Anyway, point being, she told me that she actually rarely gets approaches aside from people that try getting to her via the male "friend" route or on dating apps. She's apparently even tried to go out alone, just to sit near other men to see if anyone would make a move, and she was disappointed to find out nobody had the balls to do shit.
why didn't you seal the deal?
What do you mean? In what way? As in "Why didn't you make her your gf"?
yes
I think she would've liked that, but the thing is, she was 26 and I'm 18, kinda getting close to 19 now. The age gap is kinda big :0
>She's apparently even tried to go out alone, just to sit near other men to see if anyone would make a move
She's moronic
If it’s just to give a compliment and move on it’s fine. I don’t like anything more, never said yes to a date that way or given my socials
Flattered I guess. I had a guy tell me this weekend he saw me come in and was hoping I would go up to him and say hi. It made me wonder if guys expect girls to do the cold approach thing? I very rarely have done it
>guys expect girls to do the cold approach thing?
I don’t expect it but it would be nice for women to do it more often
Single femanons, why are you still single?
Every time I find a guy I love a ton, something happens outside my control and/or critical incompatibilities become apparent.
Do chicks actually have sexual fantasies of fat old men? Please don't lie either
Not a femanon, but hardly doubt it. Even the chicks with rape kinks that I talked to always had people they're attracted to doing it in their mind. Fat old men only get dates either by losing weight and getting jacked or making big money.
Of course not, gross
Girls how do you feel about how guys just want to cuddle and pass out immediately after cumming?
I always used to hear that women were the opposite, but I kind of suspect that was just common knowledge from back in the day where the expectation was that women basically never orgasmed.
This
girl loved romantic cuddling before and after sex, so I guess it's not always that weird stereotype you see here where you'd think any sign of comfort or weakness is immediately a turnoff
Do you like your guys smell? and do you associate the products he uses with him?
Some threads back I read about a girl that got kinda tingly whenever she smelt the Bodywash her guy used, feels kinda sweet/flattering
I'm so fricking sick of women.
I love women
Men, or should I say """""men""""": Would you date Greta Thumberg?
...no?
Why not? Can't handle a strong woman who knows what she wants and knows how to get it?
She's not my type and she seems like a total brat. Plus leftist women are annoying. Not in the sense that I only go for right wing women, but I wouldn't want to date someone that's politically very active, especially if they're leftist. Just seems like a lot of unnecessary everyday stress and if there's anything I've learned from past bonds, it's to never sacrifice your mental health for anyone.
>I only date pureblood aryan white supremacists
k
Oh, it's not about race. I like Europeans, Asians, Indians, people from the Balkan region and Slavs. Black Girls and Arabs maybe to a lesser extent for the most part, but sure. Look, I don't care about political views that much unless it's a core aspect in their identity and it's leftist at the same time.
Greta is fricking hot. I bet shes fun when her handlers are not around.
no thx
oh, so you actually had the stretch marks when you were still fat? I thought they only appeared when you lost weight?
makeup, fashion and a sweet personality can go a long way even if you're uggers
anyway you just sound depressed/anxious, I'm sure once you tackle that more (very normal to experience in early 20s) other things will fall into place
Because they are softer than usual, on god that is the truth
I hate women so I'm less nice to them than I am to guys. Also if the girl is pretty I'm even LESS nice to her. Try n stop me, simphomosexuals.
Why do women ghost men all the time?
Because in today's society women are not held accountable for immoral actions. They have no sense of responsibility.
>inb4 waaaa incel waaaa
kys simp
Can't care about every egg making the mother of all omelettes. Can't try every meal on the buffet. Don't have time for every story.
Dude, women have infinite attention, why would they make sure to maintain connections to everyone when they can build new ones immediately coz there's always someone waiting in line?
So the problem are simps and her not having good manners because her father didn't teach her.
Even if her father would've taught her manners, a lot of women still would start ghosting people because there's no bad consequence in doing so.
As a comparison, when me, my younger sibling and my father went out shopping at a place where everyone respects my father, my brother had no issue stealing stuff to eat every here and there because if my Dad would be around, people usually wouldn't mind giving stuff out for free. Meaning he made it a habit of taking stuff without asking while my Dad was around. Super rude and messed up, but it's this line of subconsciously taught logic that causes ghosting as well.
Because too many guys try to interact with us.
How do you get over a hive mind mindset when it comes to sexes? Asking stuff like would you date a bi guy and stuff like that knowing damn well that obviously someone would be up for it
You put the question together in a weird confusing way. You mind repeating it a bit more clearly?
Kek, fairpoint.
I guess all I'm saying is, how do I stop thinking women are a monolith/aka if someone says no to a question here that I think oh no guess I'll die alone
Ohhh, so how do you stop generalizing? I guess meeting different people irl via different social settings.
>Asking stuff like would you date a bi guy and stuff like that knowing damn well that obviously someone would be up for it
I take these questions like they're opinion polls and conversation starters.
Fairpoint, I suppose with atoga there's a tendency to be kicking yourself as soon as you get 1 no
Not sure what you mean. Not a lot of people like bi guys so you will get a lot of people saying so. Not really hivemind if you already know that someone out there wouldn’t mind.
I have questions to all young men here.
What would make you follow another man?
What qualities do you respect on other men?
I would have to know he would risk his life for me
only then would I risk my life for his
Loyalty, commitment, willpower, bound by honor, putting his people before anyone else
Follow as in social media? They must produce interesting content. Whatever it is, it's gotta be interesting. In youtube I follow a guy that talks about NASCAR, a guy that talks about old tech, a guy that collects Lego and makes really good reviews that are comfy to watch, a bunch of musicians, that's about it.
I don't follow any women because they seem to be incapable of making any interesting content if their life depends on it. All they do is try to look pretty.
DIE FOR THE KING, LET'S GO.
If he's got ideals that make it worth dying for. For a greater good, yk? God, do I want to die in a war.
I guess someone entertaining, interesting, thoughtful, and like they semeed down to earth and wise
My penis is numb from too much masturbation last night. I feel like I'm a disgrace. Am I, ladies?
I guess. Maybe ask other guys as they tend to have the penis
Not a femanon but yeah, you could've spent all of that time differently. Beating your meat once is one thing but numbing it????
Woman: One argument I keep on hearing when people are advocating for making sex work illegal/make it a system where everyone besides the woman is breaking the law is that men shouldn't be able to buy sex. How do you stand on that? I'm only talking about situations where the woman is obviously not doing this against her will and where it's only about men being able to buy sexual gratification for money.
*Women
Illegal but not for the one who sells it. We got enough toys, porn and OF so that everyone can sell and buy safely, we should make that part better.
I mean porn and sex toys can hardly be compared to actual sex. I just never got why someone would find the idea of two consenting adults selling/buying sex fundamentally wrong when things like cuddle cafes and other acts of intimacy are totally okay to commoditize in the eyes of most people.
Everyone I've spoken to about cuddle cafes finds the concept revolting. I don't, personally, but I've never met someone who's not viscerally disgusted by it and judgemental about it.
I don't like them either but I wouldn't pass legislation prohibiting them.
I find the idea of paying a woman for affection absolutely disgusting
Men should be above such things
What if you payed a woman to be your girlfriend and eventually the two of you fall in love?
It would never happen because I would never hire the prostitute in the first place
Sex trafficking
Is it a bad thing to have only little sexual experience by age 30, or does it not really matter at all?
Depends on you and other individuals
What depends
If it matters or not
So does it matter? Should someone be very sexually experienced by age 30?
How tf men manage to jack off and then after a short while frick the girl? If I jack off I don't feel like having sex for at least a day
Passion, novelty, hornyness, and syldenafil.
I attempted to end my 7 yr relationship last night. At first my bf made the decision simple, but now he slept on it and really doesn't want to lose me
He had been an alcoholic for 5-6 years and still has some poor tendencies. Even though he's improved, he was upset about something the other day, drank, and got aggressive. Other key things in the relationship was he'd be impossible to communicate with, wouldn't go out of his way for me, basically just a selfish person. He's someone who's really fun to hang out with, but I was questioning how sustainable long-term living with him would be.
He took me for granted because he assumed we were forever. I told him that was always the goal, but never the guarantee. He got too comfortable so he never felt compelled to change, and now shit's real for him. Now he's offering to go sober (which I had asked many many times in the past), he's willing to do anything to make me love him again
What do
What think
It breaks my heart to see him like this, and it's not like I ever wanted to put him through this. He is extremely dependent on me for happiness
>7years
That’s when most marriages end, you just never got married
I will be honest: he sounds like a loser who is taking you for granted and hoping you'll stick around through his nonsense. Do yourself a favour and move on.
"Fun to hang out with" is not enough to build a healthy relationship on. I say this as a heavy drinker myself but if he's unwilling to quit for you and turn things around, that says it all IMO.
He'd probably be even worse if they married
Yeah, that was what was going on the whole time. I was forever to him so there was no selfless motivation to change. But now that he’s getting a reality check, now that he sees I really can leave, he’s willing to put in the effort.
He really does love me. He admit he was being selfish. I’ve never seen him truly heartbroken before bc he knew all my previous considerations to leave were empty.
The fact that he was capable of addressing my concerns the whole time, but never did bc there was no risk to him, makes me feel weird. He regrets acting like that but if I had never initiated a real breakup, he would’ve continued to do all that. I don’t like that a breakup is what it takes to hear me out.
Is fibromyalgia a made-up Woman disease?
bro, my algea, ah!
Are we back?
I have been waiting for hours to say this.
I love women!
stupid simp
Lol wow my post got filtered. All i wrote was that I'm glad to be back.
Way to go NSFFW. Trynna kill the energy over here.
That foid lives in my city. I saw her at the store yesterday. Slag
Who is the best Sonic character?
The chaos
Blaze is underrated
Not to brag but I broken a sonic speedrunning WR on the weekend (still a virgin tho)
Miles
Would a man ~30 years old be interested in going out with a girl in her early 20s or do they probably prefer someone closer to their age and who is more like established?
guys love younger women
Depends wildly on the specific ages. A 30 y/o and a 24 y/o? Totally normal. A 34 y/o and a 20 y/o? Sketch.
The issue I ran into as a youth is this: there will always be men who were willing to date me despite a large age difference. But the GOOD men ran away (one time literally) when they found out my age, and the ones who stuck around were covered in red flags.
Personally I think it depends more on the people involved than their ages. Some people age faster and slower than others, and some people mentally mature much faster too. If people are "on the same page" then even larger gaps can sometimes be okay within reason. I think its a mistake to assume that older = more power in a relationship even if that's usually the case.
I never said it was a deal breaker, just that it's a red flag. Just like you said, it's not every time, but it is more likely. Red flag means "This might be of concern, watch out to see if this is an ongoing issue".
It absolutely depends on the people involved, yes, but the likelihood of them being on the same page becomes slimmer and slimmer as the age difference increases. And as the age difference increases and they're still compatible, the more likely it is that the younger had trauma (had to grow up too fast) and that the older is stunted (never had to grow up). Traumatized and stunted isn't always a death sentence, so they can still work even if that's the case. But again, it's a red flag and increases the likelihood of potential issues.
The more someone strays from 1/2+7 the more it has to be an exceptional case. And people always like to believe that they are the exceptional case and that they aren't like the others.
My boyfriend is 8 years older than me. There were some circumstances to our benefit, and I also have spent a lot of time doing research and monitoring that we weren't dysfunctional.
I see what you mean. That's my thought process too. I've just always thought the number fixation in society is a bit banal but its especially bbad in the US (not just relationships either). We are the sum of our experience, not the number of days we have been alive, even if those are often correlated. Age is more of a function of government than anything.
I'm not 30 yet but I think it would probably be okay
Just would to make sure our life goals were in sync
He'd probably be interested but then not do it because he is scared of what other people will think about it.
Women what would you do if you bf flicked your clit and ran and hid?
Pretty much every man seems to have the madonna-prostitute complex. They don't respect or marry the women they actually desire sexually, but they won't desire the women they marry as much as the loose women. Is there no way to win?
Sex was created to make babies so just make them breeding sessions
I'll make babies for someone if they pay for my post-birth surgeries and upkeep. But probably i'll just be alone forever lol.
Statistically speaking your husband is probably going to be the one that wants more sex than you
And most men are content with their wives since most wives are basically their husband's emotional pillar
What exactly are you afraid of anyways?
hotness and beauty are two different things for men
So you pretty much have to be either sexually or romantically attractive to men? what a shit choice.
True beauty is sexually attractive (granted, in a slightly different way, but still). Hotness is usually not romantically attractive. That doesn't mean men can never be romantically attracted to someone they think is hot, but the hotness is not what is driving the romantic attraction.
what you think of "hotness" will only lead to men seeing you as a way for sexual gratification (not much different from a sex toy)
that's why i don't get why so many women try to make themselves appear hot and then complain about being objectified like it isn't exactly what they're trying to play off
>being told your whole life that as a woman only your looks are worth anything
It's not easy to get rid of life-long propaganda tbh, some aren't even conscious of this.
I mean your physical appearance is important, but it isn't something basic like having huge breasts/ass and more about looking healthy and having an appealing face with a good personality and seeming like someone you'd want to spend your time with. Why would a man want to hang around bimbo #134 after he has gotten rid of his pent up lust and sees she's uninteresting and looks like shit without her huge ass and ton of makeup?
>Why would a man want to hang around bimbo #134
Idk, most men seem to want exactly that even if they're in a relationship with the safe boring waifu type.
they want to frick her and then ditch her (sometimes staying for some time and then ditching her for another is easier as it's not like there are that many to choose from)
>they want to frick her and then ditch her
Yeah, seems like most men want that. maybe relationships aren't for me, this seems psycothic to me. wanting to frick and ditch someone? I wouldn't even want to do that to anyone in a million years, seems like something only a genuine psycopath would do.
if men weren't horny 24/7 or stopped caring about getting sexual release as often and with as many women as possible, most wouldn't care as much about finding a partner until much later in life
most teenagers/men in their twenties aren't looking for love (lmao); they're mostly driven by their horniness and that's reflected by how shallow they tend to be
see this guy
even if they're in love, men still can't turn this constant need off and will still feel this urge to frick anyone remotely attractive that's available and that has nothing to do with romance
Don't act like men are the only ones who cheat
Yeah maybe men do it more but the difference isn't that vast especially in your 20s and 30s
Hell female infidelity is one of literature's oldest tropes
Yes but men hide it and take it to the grave the ones who cheat and never get "caught".
Women lie and make men raise children who were fathered by someone
I could never do that. Not all women are like that
>#NotAllWomen
I bet you think that
I bet you'd tell your husband on the way to the hospital that the baby is a different color and just to drop you off
Nope never.
I've been told my whole life that women only want me for my money
Women are only interested in men for their sperm donations then don't give a frick about their husbands once they get their kids
Every relationship is transactional
Feels like this is more common in women 2bh given their tendency to date casually early then settle down later with two different types of men
Men just want sex with girls they love and girls they lust for
Yup
I had to look this up as I had never heard of this, but I don't think I have this. Certainly there are women that I view as more "saintly" and others that are more bawdtish, but that's the same with men. I don't really have much of an attraction towards loose women beyond base instinct, but women who I actually catch feelings for (the "Madonna") are both sexually and non sexually desirous to me. Which is what makes those women become the ones I fall for and not the bawdtish ones.
>Pretty much every man seems to have the madonna-prostitute complex. They don't respect or marry the women they actually desire sexually,
I respect and sexually crave the woman I married, so what are you talking about? Being emotionally attracted to a woman makes me want to frick her more. Is that not how it works for everyone?
>they won't desire the women they marry as much as the loose women.
There is no woman on the planet I'd rather have my dick in than my wife. There's no woman on the planet I'd rather spend my day with than my wife. It's for those reasons (and about infinitely many others) that I married her.
What kind of ridiculous men are you speaking to who could give you such a ridiculous impression of men?
women have a similar thing but we call it alpha fricks beta bucks
Guys - why do you like choking girls while fricking them?
That’s a woman moment thing
I hate that and would only do it if she asked me to, and even then I would require convincing.
girls what would you do if i kissed you on the cheeks?
You'd have to be their official bf you broken morals
Is JH back yet? I just wanted to say I love you. It is all alright.
Either she's in the hospital or she got pissed off with the site not working and left for a bit. I can't see any other possibility as reasonable.
She's probably at work.
She usually posts while she's at work. She hasn't been here since around noon yesterday.
Prolly got frustrated with the site being down. Or is still lurking and wants to be missed for the attention.
>Or is still lurking and wants to be missed for the attention.
I doubt that. She doesn't seem to mind lots of attention as long as the topics are horny and sex-related. And the site didn't start having issues until way later.
I tried posting this morning and it wasn't working, so I took it as a sign to actually get some work done. Weird to be worried over after like a day.
When she comes back tell her she is loved, please.
I planned on doing that anyway but she's probably gonna feel like she's getting compliment bombed and tell us to stop, lol.
She got a bf
I would be really happy for her.
Same as
. But even if she did, she would still be posting here.
Yeah that's basically attention whoring and for guys who are or were in relationships. Says alot about them as a person tbh
It says a lot about ~~*You*~~ to want to drag her down to your low frequency. Love yourself.
You're just another beta simp. Get over it
I am your mirror and holy fricking shit am I ugly. Love yourself, change the world.
You're not ugly. You have facial dysmorphia, please get some help. You have an average face that any female would find attractive if they saw past your flaws.
Truth be told, she should leave this place and never look back, but I would hope to first wish her well before she does.
I agree but we both know that's never gonna happen. She has no intentions of leaving this place even if she gets the husband and child she wants.
How do I stop obsessing over her? Even thinking about her makes me smile, but I don't even know who she really is. I've literally given myself 20 minute speeches about how much I need her while I'm alone in my car, only to feel saddened by the fact that she's not there with me. That she's probably in the talking stage with 20 guys that are all better than me. I can't get her out of my fricking head. This isn't healthy
What's your relationship with this girl?
She's a girl that I met in the salvation army. We were really close while I was there, and she really took an interest in me and pushed me to pursue my artistic passions. We have the same disorders and problems so we related heavily to each other on nearly everything which is what caught me off-guard. I'm not even sure I'm into her as much as I'm just heavily attached to her.
The thing is I don't know if she really is talking to other people. I'm getting in my head over something that really doesn't exist.
sounds like you've got the cuck syndrome. when I have a crush on a guy and hear about him dating/talking to a "better" girl, my crush ends there.
Girls, do you have any respect for men who use OnlyFans?
If they have a healthy detachment, sure I guess. I don't really know how OF works, I assume it's possible to use in a simple "paying for porn" way, in which case I think it's great that they're supporting independent creators directly. If it's super parasocial though that's pretty ick.
I think the parasocial aspect is the main feature of OnlyFans.
>I think it's great that they're supporting independent creators directly.
You're delusional
How does one become more funny? Like how can I increase my sense of humor?
Would listening to a lot of comedians help? Or trying to spend time around funny people?
Maybe. People say I'm funny, and I have no fricking idea how that happened because I used to just be super quiet and felt like I had nothing to say.
Honestly I think NSFFW had a lot to do with it, back in my /b/ days racing to either make the obvious joke the fastest or to outdo it, and having to rely on pretty universal referential humour. Plus the completely uninhibited nature of it, being able to say literally anything, I think it makes it easy on your ability to make quick connections in your mind. Obviously you have to pull that back when talking to normies, but it's easier to dial back 'too much' than to go no further than spot on.
>used to just be super quiet
>NSFFW had a lot to do with it, back in my /b/ days
Not that guy, but how long ago did this change between super quiet and being funny happen to you, anon?
I'm really not sure, I only realised a year or two ago when someone called me funny at work and everyone agreed, and a short while later where my friends and I were doing speeches at an event and I was similarly shouted out. It's been a very slow and steady transition I'd say over a period of about 10 years as I grew more social and confident.
Yeah, pretty much. Practice anything often enough and you'll get faster at it.
I also watch a fair few panel shows which rely heavily on witty improvised jokes, Lee Mack on Would I Lie To You is the king of quick.
(I'm the first anon)
I see. Funny you should mention WILTY, as I seem to have turned my posturing into the overtly cynical and sarcastic form that David Mitchell has, but with absolutely none of the humourous wit. It doesn't help that it doesn't translate well into my native language though, so my humour has really been stifled and I find myself being on the quiet spectrum, missing the cues to jump in.
kek, just give it time, I feel like a lot of my humour probably started with me just being a cynical butthole
I feel you on that
I don’t want to say I’m not funny but I still want to build a sense of humor more. It’s just crazy how some people are so quick witted and can immediately just put shit together in their heads
Basically all it is is throwing shit at the wall like you said and eventually finding that things stick, and in turn this kind of sharpens your ability to say more quick witted shit
Girls I'm hanging out with for almost 3 months is acting flirty with male members in a group chat I'm in too. She seems a lot into me, like, really a lot, but this gave me insane thinking. Do girls do this on a daily basis? I know we're not in a relationship (and that's my fault since I'll probably leave this city in some months and she wants me to stay) but this still bothers me. Like, why she have to do like this if she's into me?
How do I cover up my black eye with makeup? I have work in an hour.
wear a medical eye patch (I think you can get them from pharmasies) and tell people it's a serious eye infection.
You don’t think there’s a way to cover this with makeup?
Women, would you be interested in a functioning male sexbot? Of course, we guys have the female ones, so I'd assume it'd only be fair for you to have your own as well.
No, I want a live human being to marry and bare a child too.
Just get a sperm donation
Nah. Maybe if it could do house chores as well and have a decent personality
only if it were full on scifi 'barely distinguishable from human aside from the eerie politeness' style. like gladia and jander in 'robots of dawn.'
(also i don't mean in a 'pretend life partner' sort of way, i wouldn't want this as a replacement for a partner, just as a novel 'fling' because the idea is hot. it's like all the appeal of fricking a dog without the beastiality, a robot with the same loyal innocence, with some eerie unknowable quality that gives the whole thing a bit of spice).
>the appeal of fricking a dog
Thank you, for answering a question I didn't know I wanted to ask
Femanons
It's been about 1 week or so since me and my fiance have had sex. We've been very busy but we think we can fit in a nookie sesh sometime later tonight.
However with everything being how it is I'm afraid something will come up. Should I Fap now that way I could potentially last longer in bed and also get rid of the weird dude energy building up inside me. OR should I wait till she gets home about 9 hours from now and then empty my reserves?
I think I'm gonna wait
What are your personal pros and cons of both?
Pros of fapping now
>Stress relief in a schedule that's really tight right now and doesn't allow for a lot of free time
>Afterwards I'd be able to focus more on the chores a little better
>It's been a bit since I nutted
>It's been very busy lately so I'm not sure if we will even have sex later even though we're planning to
>Longer sex sesh (I unfortunately cannot get hard within the refractory period after ejaculating it always takes me like another 25 minutes or something and at this point we're so tired we're probably going to go to sleep immediately after the first round)
Cons
>I'd feel bad that I didn't wait for my fiance
>Maybe I should use the small amount of free time I have today to do something else
Can you tell me more about how you'd feel bad you didn't wait for your fiancee?
Well I'm just afraid she would notice that I'm not as Stern or rigid as I would be if I fapped and I kind of want to treat her right and give her a good experience. Also sometimes she'll make jokes about how I fapped instead of having sex with her and she's not in the wrong, it's just good Lord trying to find time for this stuff is hard this last month. On top of that when we do get periods of free time I realize that our sex habits take a little bit to get back into their rhythm since we're just used to anything else. I just wanted to take the time and make my fiance feel special because she really is to me but the same time it's like I also am kind of a coom brain and I'm just trying to get on with my day and do the chores but I I feel that this opportunity is slipping by and I'm probably not going to bang later but I also want to bang later so I don't know.
I think a good example is yesterday my fiance waited for me to get home and it took me a little later then usual to get back. I work a cashier job and my till ended up being $444.44 so I went next door to the gas station and got a lottery ticket because I felt lucky. It was like five bucks and took like 7 minutes at the most. But by the time I got home I had to use the restroom and then my fiance had fallen asleep and when she woke up she had to go to a baby shower and we ended up not having enough time to have sex or anything. I ended up trying to clean the house because we have guests coming over and they're going to be staying for 2 weeks but I couldn't even do that I just ended up moving slow and couldn't do anything. I literally moved two boxes and then like had to lie down, we've been kind of burning the candle on both ends.
I really don't see why the 7 minutes was much of an effect. It's kind of her fault that she chose to take a nap. Did you take 45 minutes in the bathroom or something?
This whole situation sucks. I can't really relate with her taking it personally because if we don't have time/energy or we don't make time/energy to have sex, then I can't blame him for jerking off. I also never ever would make a comment about him not being hard enough, what the frick is that? I know dicks are a huge sore spot for men, I'd never say anything that has the potential to make him insecure. That's just basic decency.
I was in there for like 20 minutes and I think she was sleeping by the time I got home already maybe I don't know. As far as her comment goes well we're both pretty straight shooters and our filters have comfortably fallen off about a year ago with each other. I don't take it as a bad thing though we both kind of let each other have it but we always talk it out and work through things. We communicate sometimes it's a bit blunt but we do.
She called me on my lunch and I confessed my stressors and she said I could use her panties to nut in.
Praise be.
>ugly face
>no boobs or ass
>bad spine, bad teeth
>no social skills whatsoever
>no confidence
>no interests
>overall pretty boring and hard to talk to
>pretty stupid and bitter
Just realized I'm 21 and I'm a kissless virgin. Never had male friends either. Never confessed to. The only time I got a compliment from a non-relative man was from a salesman trying to scam me. It's all over, isn't it
It’s never over
The battle is either won or lost in your mind
You’re either going to get to where you want to be or you aren’t. Pick one and believe it. After that, everything is just a stepping stone. No excuses
Just post your pic on /soc/ and realize your sexual value as a young female is insanely high despite all of your perceived flaws. Also for men, sexual value and romantic value are highly correlated.
It's never over if you're a female
There's always a simp somewhere
Same for men. There's females that will flirt with you or compliment my man.
I've never experienced this in my 29 years of life
Anon I'm sure some women have complimented you in some form you have not noticed
Usually they look uncomfortable as if the skin was peeling off my face
Even my own mom told me I'm not a looker
>bad spine, bad teeth
It's over, these are the real dealbreakers. Unless you can do some therapy for these you'll always be a Quasimodette
This
, being nice to a man will get you very far. Unless your face is hideously deformed you could seriously just be nice and sweet and a lot of guys will at least be open to dating you.
Do women like compliments from average men?
Probably, go for it shorty.
What are your thoughts on love bites during sex? I’m not in a relationship, but I really like the idea, but then I thought about asking my partner cause that’d be hot too and I’m pretty sure not everyone would be into giving than receiving bites idk.
Male. Yes I like them so long as they’re not too painful. I’ll do basically anything a girl wants as long as it’s not degrading, painful, or unhygienic. If she wants me to bite her anywhere I will.
Go for it shorty. It's basically hickeys
State male or female
Would you judge a girl who is 18 who dates a guy in his mid-20's?
male
no
Yeah, I consider him a not a pedo but the other. What?! No way! Elliotstablersvu.jpg
M
Yes, I'll judge both. The girl is a golddigger who's sucking that guy off of his money (most women do, even after marriage).
She isn't giving guys her age a chance, and they end up on this board, being a virgin.
And the guy is a loser who can't attract women his age. Cuz they know how big of a loser he is.
Nta
Young men traumatize women because of Mens lack of maturity and self awareness
I will never day someone as old as me
M, no, I dated an 18yo when I was 23 so I can't talk kek
Is a girl with bad posture really unattractive?
I think I have weak back muscles or something because mine is horrendous if I'm not really concentrated on it
It depends on how bad it is, but I doubt it's a problem.
It's like this girls. This is what made me ask the question because mine is similar
What exercises did you do?
That is less attractive than if her shoulders were back but honestly it's not much of a difference, and it's not that hard to fix either.
Man, this makes me jealous. With my hip all fricked up I cant stand up straight right right now.
What's wrong with your hip?
Not sure but I think I have a pinched nerve. I almost blacked out in the shower yesterday from the pain. Have you ever had pain so intense it game you instant dry mouth? It was a good thing I was in the shower and had 3 walls to bounce off of while I was getting wobbly.
NTA but I've definitely experienced that kind of pain before. Recovering from a broken femur is hell, even with oxy. If there isn't any obvious injury pinched nerve is a decent guess. I'd try to keep off of it for a while.
Moving my leg backwards or pushing my pelvis forward seams to aggravate it the most. So standing up straight wont work for me right now. I hope it recovers enough that I can walk the day after tomorrow, because I have work.
I had a sprain in my back and I think that weakness caused it when I was lifting weights. I think that I then slept on it wrong which bought it out then the shower scene made it go atomic. So im a cripple at the moment.
Oh yeah, definitely keep off of it then. It needs time to recover, you probably did frick it up by trying to lift with a sprain in your back.
Last time I had one, gotten the same way, It was in my neck and I could not sleep. This time I can actually find positions that are comfortable so I am hopeful.
Idk what it's called, but I use this machine. I basically do "reverse pushups" by lowering my torso, and then going up until my whole body is straight like a stick, and then down again. deadlifts are also great for back muscles and generally almost any muscle as well.
The weight section of my gym is too intimidating to venture to for deadlifts but I will definitely try these reverse crunches things. Thank you!
oh, that's a shame.. but I know the feeling. my current gym has a separate deadlift room and thankfully it's almost always empy. but yeah it's probably the best exercise, so I still suggest to go for it if you can find any opportunity.
never used those, but I guess they would work as well especially at home.
Or just do planks mby, it's not like beginner who works a office job needs tools to make herself sweat
Planks are shit for building muscle.
What do you suggest
actual back exercises, most of them require weights. which aren't scary lol.
Sit-ups or crunches would be better for building abdominal muscles, especially weighted. For shoulders and chest push-ups, pull-ups, or really lifting any kind of weight with your arms above your head. That will help your trapezius too if you want that, and the pull-ups can help with the lattisimus dorsi. But really the best options here are compound lifts like overhead press and deadlift.
Also squats are a really good one. They tend to focus more on the legs but can definitely work on the upper body as well.
Or she coud get a ab wheel
I actually have one of these but I never use it
Is this a training machine for fricking?
Lol I can see why you think that because of the hands
Did you see how many people were simping for that Rya character from Elden Ring? Posture is not a big deal, but you should do some exercuses because its not good for your own health
you probably just meant to ask men, but imo as a girl it's definitely in the top 10 things that most affect how people perceive you. I used to have "gamer posture", but going to gym and doing back exercises helped strengthen my back muscles and now I don't slouch as much anymore.
You should really work on it. The more you concentrate on it the more likely you will do it on your own. It's also not unlikely that you're doing it wrong. A lot of people try to have "good posture" by only holding their shoulders back and find it painful to hold because they still have their hips tucked under.
How are you supposed to compliment men? I really don’t know what to say and it comes out like a mother complimenting their son
I like "You're a good guy."
not that anon, but these sort of compliments always worry me because i know so many guys are triggered by being called "nice"/"a great guy"/"a good friend" since those are so often used as brush offs lol
I'd be more worried about "nice guy", "you're sweet", or anything that ends with "friend" than "you're a good guy".
romantic or platonic compliment?
Both
the one i will remember forever is
>you're a beautiful soul
We accept hugs
There's not really a way to do it, just say what you think. Guys don't get complements very often so almost whatever you say will be appreciated, trust me.
A girl complimented me on my voice, and another liked the pyjamas I wore.
I'll never forget it. Keep it simple and honest.
Some of the answers so far have been good. "You're a good guy", "I like talking to you/spending time with you", or you can take it a step further with "I like you" if you want him to ask you out. Hugs definitely work too for a lot of guys.
You don't have to make a complex and grand poem
Just say what's on your mind
"You've got cute hair" or "you've got such big and strong arms" or whatever
I'm certain this question has been asked plenty of times before, but I haven't been here for it.
Women, your bf comes over for the first time and you start cuddling together on the couch, you aren't having sex yet and you haven't done much cuddling yet, if any. He pops a boner and it's very obvious, you can feel it poking you. How would you react? Would it be flattering, gross, weird? Would you ignore it or give him a funny look, or say something about it? My preference would be if we both just pretended we didn't notice, but I don't know what women think about it.
I'd probably just feel flattered/excited. If I'm cuddling close enough to feel that, I'm into you to the point of wanting to be physically close and to eventually have sex. That said, unless I wanted to try and escalate it right then and there I'd probably largely ignore it, maybe quietly smirk to myself (in a good way). I might do a subtle something just to reassure that everything's fine (eg, holding you just a little bit closer).
I don’t know what this girl wants from me. She later replied with:
“I had a big-ass reply to send. However, this isn't worth my time and energy. This is all so stupid. Since I've actually moved on, I won't linger on this any longer”
What the frick?
I think she just wanted someone to talk to who is capable of critical thought. You were apparently not him.
are you the same guy that posted some other conversation from this app with zero context? no one knows that the frick you're talking about
Just give me your honest impression of what she wants. The story is too detailed
i have no earthy idea, dude, i couldn't even begin to hazard a guess, i can't even tell who's talking, and i don't want to know.
I love my girlfriend and would never do anything remotely resembling cheat but how do I stop looking at other girls and wanting to frick them? I feel really bad about it but I cant help it
If your eyes cause you to sin, gouge them out.
t. Jesus
T. Holier-than-thou hypocrite
Just love your gf in everyday possible. The grass ain't greener on there other side. You'll regret cheating on her and you might not feel guilty, I've come to realise some people don't and they deny it too. Cuddle with her, be patient.
is it ever a good idea to "too nice" (basically as nice as I am to other women) to men if you're in a relationship?
for example there is this cashier in my local small grocery store, and he's always really friendly to me and I'm friendly in return. however now he's started to do things like packing up my groceries for me, so I wonder if I've crossed a line being "too nice", or if he's just doing that as a nice gesture
if you're unsure, just find a natural way to namedrop your boyfriend into the conversation
My bf is often with me in there though
well then he's probably either genuinely being nice, or he's a shameless creep. it should be pretty easy to tell which one from the vibes.
..I can't tell. so can't decide if I should stop being nice. maybe I'd lean more into the "Just being nice" option though.
aint broke, don't fix it. he knows you have a bf, so if he's simping it's his own mistake. if he tries anything funny, you can cross that bridge if you come to it. and if he's genuinely just being nice, you don't wanna make things weird by assuming he's got ulterior motives.
In the mid 20’s, will sleep deprivation cause permanent permanent aging of the skin?
Lil bit. Remember to Moisturize your face. Wash your face with baking soda too, it'll help. Moisturize Remember
Recommendations for moisturizer for face, hands, and body to stay looking young?
Also how do you wash with baking soda?
Don't deprive yourself of sleep. Simple.
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/jeff-bezos-divorce-and-cheating-scandal-everything-we-know/cheating-news/
>she has billions of dollars, villas, luxury cars, luxury furnitures and clothes, fame and fortune, everything she wants
>her husband cheated on her
I don't have any of those things but at least I'm 100% sure that my husband would never cheat on me. God is very, very good and just it seems. Am I a bad person for feeling like this?
Yes
Experts cannot agree
I'm the guy who said no and while I posted it for the meme, I actually don't think it's bad to be proud of having a loyal husband.
No
>God is very, very good and just
that was just inevitability as, with his wealth and the social circles he probably spends his time in, he'd have the opportunity to frick 10/10s left and right without even trying
unless he found being completely loyal to be extremely important he had no real reason not to at some point
If I had billions of dollars I probably would not be monogamous. I would probably have a harem of wives (all consenting of course) and 500 children minimum. Jeff’s problem is he married a woman and told her he’d be monogamous. I don’t know why he would do that. Seems moronic of him when he can have as much young fertile pussy as he wants.
pretty much this
unless i suddenly fell in love with someone i would never risk losing a huge amount of money and assets just to officially tie the knot with someone
>and 500 children minimum
I was gonna say that's too many children, but if you had just $1bil to spare, that's $2mil for each of your kids, wtf
and jeffy boi is worth $148bil
To have 500 kids you'd probably need to have a minimum of like 50 women and keep them pregnant basically all the time for a decade.
you say that like it'd be a challenge
I'm just saying that's crazy. That's a lot of women, and 10 years is a long time to stay pregnant.
Only problem I see is financial. And possibly legal, you can't just have 50 wives
You don't have to marry a woman to get her pregnant. And if you have billions of dollars, how are you going to have financial problems there?
I'm neither of those anons, saw 500 children and 50 pregnant women for 10 years post and got intrigued.
I think there's a few of us interested in crunching these numbers at this point. I wonder how many kids would end up sharing birthdays.
you don't have to wife someone to knock them up though. but i'm not sure how child support works when multiple mothers are involved. obviously there's plenty of money to go around, but if they're entitled to a percentage, the mothers could unionise and destroy me.
>You can’t just have 50 wives
I’ll move to somewhere I can. Easy.
I mean, if I have access to $150bil, I'm sure I can find 500 different women to get pregnant. Send them to a doc to work out their cycles, frick a different one every night, and it should work itself out.
...Man, imagine having 499 half siblings.
That does actually read like a line from Archer, lol.
If you can find potential octomoms, you could cut those down to just 62.5 women for a one time thing
>Have a million children
>Have enough money to pay people to raise them for you All whilst ignoring them and continuously going through your harem and impregnating them over and over
You know I can think of much worse lives to live
Maybe I'm weird but if I somehow came into money like that I think I'd end up giving a lot of it away or investing it in startups or something. Like, Once I have enough so that I can live comfortably in a nice house that I own and have the lifestyle I want, beyond that the money is just meaningless to me.
Also it wouldn't change my desire as far as monogamy. I want a wife and a minimum of three kids, I'm not interested in sleeping around or poly shit or anything like that.
Monogamy is fun and all until you’re 10 years into a relationship and you have a billion dollars and 18 year old 10/10 pure virgins are walking up to you with their underwear in their mouth
I'd feel like I would have bigger things on my mind than sex
We really just have ooga booga mindsets
I wouldn't end up in that situation and if I did I'd tell her to put her clothes back on and figure out a better way to live her life. I'm not interested in sex with someone I don't love.
same, the thing is, this attitude is why we'll never be billionaires, because people who make that kinda money are the kind for whom nothing is ever enough.
Yeah, kinda like how the people that should have the most power are the ones who don't want it, while the people who do gain power are the ones who absolutely should not have it.
Would girls feel safer on a first date with me if I showed them my knife I brought to defend her if shit hits the fan?
No my man don't do that, she'll get a bit scared
she might feel pressured to let you go further than she's comfortable with if you come off wrong after showing her you're not only taller and stronger, but also armed
You mean this could lead to first date sex?
Why girls like violence so much? I don't even like rape fetish
Idk anon, other anon says it's a good idea
Is volcel a reasonable lifestyle? My ex took ever out of me. Seeing how most men act irl, cheating, no drive, immature, etc. makes me not want to date ever. Especially after being on here for most of my life. I am emotionally and physically exhausted from my one relationship and most men I interact with. At this point I just want a sperm donor and to never open up to another man again.
Anyone a long term volcel?
You would be fricking over your kid's life if he or she grew up without a father
Why don't you try being a lesbian?
You think having two mothers is better? vegana is gross
Two parents are better than one
Just say you're a pillow princess
Wanna fwb, no emotions involved?
I dealt with suicidal ideation during the lockdowns. I was angry and sad and hopeless every single day for a year or so. But since then I've mostly been happy. Is suicidal ideation still a red flag even if it's situational?
Not sure which gender you're asking, but I'm male.
If you're not experiencing it now and it is situational like that it wouldn't bother me at all.
It is anon. Get some help reach out to professional even if it's just for a month and you can't fully afford it. Your mind is going through a lot and it's stressful to your overall health.
You should get professional help.
To girls: when was last time you dewormed yourselves?
Same question to you.
Every spring. So I have worm-free summers!
You should be careful if you do that. You have to eat clean, not processed foods or fast foods. You probably have a strong stomach but over time you'll damage your digestive system if you don't eat clean, unless you have a strong stomach and well genetics.
Pull up on my side, I got 2 dracs, this shit like suicide.
Women. What kind of car do you like men to drive?
Bill Murray fricks
I don't care at all. Not even a little.
Actually scratch that. If he has an import sports car I assume he's a douchebag.
90's toyota. I don't care that much, but I like 90's cars and their look. the cars I dislike seeing a guy drive the most, SUV's and BMW.
Interesting. I was thinking about SUVs and just something about them makes me feel they are the wrong choice.
Idk it just feels too onions. big cars definitely don't make a man feel more masculine to me. and around here we call SUV's "aunt mobiles".
Women do look good in SUVs.
Speaking of which, why aren't women forming official harems anymore?
You get access to Chad and his superior genes and you wouldn't have to focus all your energy on pleasing him
Because some women really do want a monogamous relationship with one man and that's all. It's easier for people who are "free spirits" or whatever, not everyone is like that.
Do these women seriously think life would be better with Brad in a shitty cheap apartment than getting some access with Elon Musk and like in a fricking spaceship?
I would join a harem if the man gave me an allowance and paid for any surgery I wanted. this did happen with one wealthy man who had an actual harem a few years ago btw.
Why do girls feel comfortable wearing super revealing clothing while in a relationship?
because i'm wearing it for my partner, because he likes it and makes me feel sexy
Lmao
What a stupid lie to tell to yourself
You're wearing such clothes to feel desirable by other men but they can't touch you because you're in relationship
>implying i'd touch 90% of men even if i weren't in a relationship
my bf literally bought me a short, skin-tight dress and told me to wear it to dinner with him, and when i showed up with pantyhose on underneath it he told me to go to the bathroom and take them off.
They're all prostitutes in their nature, but they're hypocritical in the sense that they only want Chad's attention, which is how you get stories of men being creeps for only following their instinct.
You should approach the loose ones or stare at their exposed parts anyway. Watch how quickly they'll get uncomfortable and try to cover up.
You're generalizing.
>girls: *dress like bawds and cheap hookers*
>also girls: ughh omgzerzzz why are men only looking at us like sexual objects -.- such creeps ughhh
Omegalul
men
>say they don't want to date cheap hookers
also men
>cheat with the cheap hookers, pay them the most attention, and are the most sexually attracted to them, while claiming to love their trad waifu
sex doesn't mean that much emotionally for most men; they want to frick them, but they don't inherently care about them and that sexual attention doesn't really translate to romantic attraction
doesn't seem like it'd be a good idea to spend your life with a man then since they're quaranteed to cheat, since they're fine with using someone sexually without actually liking them.
Don't act as if women aren't this way either
>women do muh bad thing so it's fine for men to do!!!
You're a moron. obviously I don't advocate for men or women cheating. but men as a gender cheat more.
It's not a "cheating is good thing"
It's a "don't generalize" thing
Men suck women suck
But individually we are our own people
They're even worse about it considering how easy it is for them to get men to basically use as masturbation tools. Pretty sure women pump and dump more than men do now.
>but men as a gender cheat more.
Only because of older men skewing it up, and even then it's almost certainly because of dead bedrooms. Young women cheat more than young men.
I'd say it's more because men regardless of gender are most attracted to 20 y/o women and younger. which is even more reason to not get married, because in 10 years your man will probably be cheating already if you can't pass for a teenager anymore.
>because in 10 years your man will probably be cheating already if you can't pass for a teenager anymore
is this the blackpill version for femanons?
I guess so. and men talk as if it's ideal to ""lock down"" a man in your 20's. you'll just feel even shittier once your husband of 10+ years starts eyeing up younger women and teens.
As a man, I can emphatize with that, but you also have to consider most men will be available for you unless you're desfigured, morbidly obese or extremely ugly.
Meanwhile your hypothetical husband has much less chances of doing anything with another woman since she will also have many more options than your husband.
men in general get much less sexual attention from women than women get from men. wouldn't you think that it makes men less likely to resist such a situation? women have to reject men every day, but most men wouldn't turn down a woman suggesting sex even if he's in a relationship bc it rarely happens to him.
That's true, it's also biological though, men have higher libido.
it's also biological that women feel less attracted to bald men. just because it's "natural" doesn't make it a good thing.
>men in general get much less sexual attention from women than women get from men. wouldn't you think that it makes men less likely to resist such a situation? women have to reject men every day, but most men wouldn't turn down a woman suggesting sex even if he's in a relationship bc it rarely happens to him.
yes, the man will probably have it harder to resist that temptation, but you have to consider the intervals. You may go all your life with your husband not having more than ONE option to cheat, and if he's strong enough in that moment and refuses, you have 10/20 years until the next chance (which decreases with every passing year)
meanwhile you as a woman will have thousands of options per month. I think you'll have a lot more of chances to fall back into infidelity the mometn your husband does something that really bothers you, leaving him all alone while you go to some other dude.
I think the blackpill in this sense affects more men than women, now that you made me think about it lol
Women are attracted to older and richer men and there are always older guys until you're 70 where is where the cheating numbers drop off
>your man will probably be cheating already if you can't pass for a teenager anymore.
only if you're not sleeping with him any more and/or he has them constantly come after him (which doesn't happen if he isn't very good looking or rich)
NTA but I don't understand this argument
>Femanon: "Dating seems pointless because men cheat"
>Anons: "Women cheat too!"
Great, sounds like dating is pointless for everyone.
they just fundamentally view sex differently
sex isn't just part of a relationship, but a physical need that is constantly bothering them regardless of their romantic feelings and, depending on their personality, is almost separate from the object of their desire as a person
This isn't helping, now I just see all men as psychopaths. I couldn't imagine loving someone who is able to have sex and not care about the other person in any way.
I couldn't imagine being so impaired to recognize the truth that I have to gaslight people around me into thinking I'm right about everything but here we are.
>gaslighting
yes, the narcissistic tactic that you're currently employing. couldn't expect any less from men.
I'm not gaslighting lol, didn't even read what the conversation was, I just saw the last thing you said and decided to shit on you randomly with a foid generalization, your welcome.
don't worry, you aren't special.
Yes I am
most men just think it's how everyone feels and that's why they're so paranoid about their so cheating on them with someone hotter/muscular
Nah, the psychopaths are just the only men females grant the access of their flowers to. You hate nice, intelligent men who would actually love you and then you're surprised when you get abused for the choice you made? You deserve it.
>i'm a nice guy who hates women
Yeah, very intelligent indeed.
Most intelligent men throughout history hated females, as any man with a brain would.
Not a virgin nor am I a psycho. This is just the worst timeline ever for men to date. You don't have to be a virgin incel neet to see it.
>flowers
Jesus Christ, yeah it's women fault you're a virgin, not the fact that you're an absolute psycho.
I dress modestly and so do some of the women I seen in my city or another big city i used to reside in, not all women dress proactively. Why are you seething anon? Is because you want those type of women and they want you?
because sometimes I like feeling like his eye candy, basically. and the biggest reason why I don't wear sexy clothes alone is because I would get harassed, but it doesn't happen if I'm with him.
I'm not trying to say there's anything really wrong with what you're doing, but the reason you feel like eye candy and the reason you're being harassed are the same. Men give you this attention when you dress like this because you're triggering their instinct that tells them you're trying to tell them you're available for easy sex without having to take any responsibility.
Gee, it's almost like consent and reciprocation of that sexual attention makes a difference.
>y-your bf wants to frick you too, anon!
You don't say.
If a girl in a relationship had a profile picture of her with bf, a status with hearts mentioning him, posted often fawning over him, then took those off and stopped posting about him at all, is it reasonable to assume they broke up?
>inb4 just ask her moron
I will, just wanted to ponder beforehand, obviously the default assumption is that they're still together. And she doesn't live in the same city as me and is a bit avoidant with basically all her friends so it's a pretty hard question to ask directly.
Just ask her and don't be a homewrecker
>don't be a homewrecker
I wasn't planning to, but I have no idea how to ask this question in a way that's innocent.
Just outright ask, theirs no simple way to ask awkward questions.
Why do women pretend to bawd shame men when they know the reason men dodn't get bawd shamed is because women hate virgins
Do women enjoy it when a guy is kissing and licking/sucking their boobs? or do they just go with the flow for his pleasure?
I love you all.
notice how blackpills for men are based on statistics, facts, and logic but blackpills for women are made up schizo shit
Most blackpill shit is narcissistic schizo delusions.
not the fact that women only want outgoing party chad who isn't a virgin
Lol well I did say most didn't I?
really?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19645027/
Men are more likely to leave their wife is she becomes sick (you're 6x more likely to get abandoned if you're a woman instead of man). if that isn't blackpilling, i don't know what is.
yeah if a woman's bf is beaten she will want to frick the guy who beat him up
you deserve each other
I said male blackpills are based on facts and logic
I've only ever heard incels saying that.
sounds like you have a cuck fetish honestly.
cuckolds are hated by women because they fetishize women's true nature
the femanons that one time said they have a fantasy of their bf being beaten and taking her away
Cucks are also the ones most likely to spread their fantasies on the internet. congrats.
I'm not a fricking cuck in my ideal world infidelity is not real
>Femanon cites science
>You cite (self-admitted ONE) anecdote of a woman with a cuck fetish, not to mention no proof it wasn't a troll
?????
my source is that I fricking made it up
if it makes sense in my mind I think it's true
women unanimously like dominant aggressive men, why wouldn't they frick the guy who beat their bf and made him "submissive"
>yeah if a woman's bf is beaten she will want to frick the guy who beat him up
Femanon posted a study to back up her claim. Where's yours?
The only significant group that study found were couples who married when they were already in their 50s
Did you not see that part?
why would age matter in this situation? it shows that men abandon their wives more often than women abandon their husbands. if anything, you'd think that the group who would abandon their wives less would be the group of 50 y/o married men.
It was 50 year old men who just recently got married to a 50 year old woman
Pretty much by that age you're just looking for someone to eat with while you age
I still don't see why there is a gender disparity, other than because men are less attached to their wives in general.
>It was 50 year old men who just recently got married to a 50 year old woman
nta but which part of the study points to that?
Iirc the article gives a description profiling the men and typically it's a 50+ year old male who's been married less than 5 years
I recognize this poster from LULZ
Idk
This isn't going to be a very conclusive study considering it only had 515 subjects
To me, if one group is 6x more likely to do something in a study of 500 than another group, it does have a result that indicates systemic behavior.
2 million Americans get cancer every year
This was a sample of size less than .02%
You don’t need a certain percentage to get a statistically valid s sample of the entire United States. Depending on how much error you are willing to tolerate and how many subgroups you want to look at a number between 500 and 2500 randomly selected individual is enough to make statements that are well supported about the US population. The bigger problems these days are things like response rates, modes of administration, and sample frames.
Girls, would you be impressed if guy had captain's license and a boat to take you in the sea?
Moderately, I guess. But I hate boat rides that aren't on a cruise ship.
Deb I'm the Bay Harbor Butcher.
OP is a homosexual like usual and didn’t link the new thread
We are only on page 4?
Yeah it’s a moron that makes the threads early and doesn’t bother telling anyone so it just splits the threads
All this talk about psychopaths is always so negative. There's a regular anon who's a psycho and this is all very insensitive to his moronic brand of trigaygery (especially considering we're in atoga).
I do wonder why people have to be so negative. Years ago I was with some friends, male, and just became aware of how they constantly poke each other, tearing each other down. Since then I have always tried to be more positive and build people up.
I get ya, many of my friends are like that too. It's one of the things that bothers me the most about men, as a man myself.
>Psychopathy is a neuropsychiatric disorder marked by deficient emotional responses, lack of empathy, and poor behavioral controls, commonly resulting in persistent antisocial deviance and criminal behavior.
sounds like most men.
>sounds like most men.
Which is why civilization exists, if it were up to b***hes we'd have gone extinct
so you agree, nice.
Yes, I'm a man, I can admit faults with myself. You're welcome by the way.
Yes, we already know you're a violent ape and proud of it.
I don't know how it was for other men, but I started doing bad shit because of how others treated me. It's pretty easy not to feel any guilt now.
Why did my ex message me out of nowhere? we broke up a year ago.
They are horney.
if women aren't unattracted to introversion and virginity show me a romance (made for women, not this self insert homosexual shit made for losers) where the male lead is shy/introverted and a virgin (but it's not treated as him being some fricking loser)
high school romance doesn't fricking count because of course a 16 year old is a virgin
I don't watch basically any romance movies or series, but it is often romanticized in film. take red dragon for example. in it the blonde woman (forgot her name) is clearly excited by the guy's inexperience and implied virginity, and her taking on a more active role in their sex encounter is shown as erotic. and since you're probably an incel, take the movie being centered around hannibal, a serial killer, as an indicator that lots of women have watched it lol.
>Join Gym
>See so much penis
I knew it would happen but it still feels weird.
>tfw haven't seen penis in so long
Stop flexing on us here.
Why are you in a nudist gym?
Both. Describe in detail your thoughts on open relationships.
Thank you!
I think most people are too jealous for them, me included. F
M
Not immoral but a fricking terrible idea.
Too jealous for it, sounds like it could messy really quick. But I'm a manprostitute myself, and sometimes the idea of swinging sounds nice because I've been pounding the same puss for like 5 years.
Girls? Know what? I want to lick your navels.
And I want to lick guys' dicks. So what?
You mean my dick..? Because I meant your navel!