Me when i don't had a girlfriend
>No confidence
>Angry, hateful and resentful
>Not ambitious, lazy, demotivated, money was meaningless, no need to be productive to society, my boss can eat shit ill do the bare minium
>No drive to improve improve myself
Me now that i have a girlfriend
>Boast confidence and walk with firm shoulders and aligned back
>I'm a happy person now, i see myself doing nice things for people, even people that i hated for years, even if they still hate me i will attempt to fix things
>Ambitious, need money to buy a house, a car and many more things if i expect to start a family with my woman, my boss notice my new peak in productivity and told me that if i keep it up 2 more months I'll have a promotion guaranteed
>Suddenly i care about my looks, im afraid to lose her so i invest in new clothes, i joined the gym, im reading new books, I'm planning to learn a new language
And i just realized.. "just be confident" is stupid, the confidence comes after the GF, when you actually have a reason to feel confident. Confidence doesn't comes from thin air.
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Alright but in 2-6 months when the novelty wears off see if you still have that confidence. Confidence comes from reaching your goals and your goal was GF, the gf isnt what gave you confidence.
>but in 2-6 months
8 months together already, not wearing off
3 years later. Confidence doesn't stop increasing. I can normally talk to girls (since I don't have to prove I'm not a creep) and to a ton of guys as well (since I don't need to prove I'm gay). I think porn overuse completely fricked up my perception of healthy, natural relationships.
How??? I do not understand, how has porn ever informed your perception of natural relationships? Did you think yourself into thinking you were watching a guide?
>How??? I do not understand, how has porn ever informed your perception of natural relationships?
It didn't. He's just an idiot and needs something to blame other than himself lol
You're right lmao you dont have to prove you're gay, everybody knows that you are
See this is exactly what I don't get. You shouldn't had to have to "prove you're not a creep" to begin with, let alone "prove you're not gay" (kek).
And if you were just confident ALL ALONG and could interact with others like a normal person...you know, like how people here probably told you to...then you wouldn't have had to even ever be worrying about this stuff.
the idea of just be confident is be confident in yourself ie dont be embarrassed about your hobbies/interests and be real.
confidence does come from thin air its called fake it till you make it. problem is anons are way too scared to even try the fake it part,
So when she eventually leaves, your confidence is gone with her. MGTOW is The Way.
No dumbass.
The confidence comes before the girlfriend. You don't fake the confidence, it's genuine confidence and it comes from having health self esteem and self love.
When people say "be confident" what they mean is you have to be a mentally healthy, well adjusted person BEFORE you try to date anyone.
Your relationship is doomed. The confidence you're feeling is temporary.
>When people say "be confident" what they mean is you have to be a mentally healthy, well adjusted person BEFORE you try to date anyone.
And it's the biggest crock of bullshit ever. I don't know anyone in this world who I'd call a "mentally healthy, well adjusted person". What does that even mean?
That you don't personally know anyone means nothing.
That you don't know what a mentally healthy, well adjusted person means suggests you may not be one and require therapy.
>That you don't know what a mentally healthy, well adjusted person means suggests you may not be one and require therapy.
jew
you're moronic. there is zero evidence to support this idea, regardless of how many other morons like you believe it. you can't take a person who's been living in a ditch with wolves for 20 years and say to them "you need to get yourself straight before you start interacting with people". it is the total inverse of reality. you're just objectively wrong.
it's funny because OP is talking about a real experience and you guys just propagate this shit meme of "max gym = life improves" and mgtow bullshit.
you are 100% right. happened to my brother exactly the same, and to me in some extend when i was dating/seeing a girl. like this anon said
. when you have the burden of other's people doubt on you everything is extremely harder. but when it falls off your shoulders it's so much easier.
anyway, have a great year anons
>Confidence comes after not before the GF
True, and that is why women will all of the sudden be hitting on you when they know you have a GF. Then you either cheat, or get accused of cheating, then wind up single again.
Women are crazy.
confidence and walk with firm shoulders and aligned back
You think your posture and the way you walk are determined by your confidence? lol
>can't get gf cause no cofnidence, ashamed of myself and my interests, socially awkward
>can't fix those things unless I get a gf
Do you realise how blackpilling this is OP?
That's why you have everyone disagreeeing.
You're killing any and all hope for lonely people.
It really was over before it even begun.
>>can't fix those things unless I get a gf
He's wrong anon. But even if he wasn't, this thread should be a whitepill for you instead.
You should read this and be like "wow, if this fricking moron somehow got a gf and before he was confident no less then maybe it's not so hard and there's hope for me after all".
Is it really a horrible reallity, that some people truly refuse to accept that we were created Male and Female and you cannot truly be happy by yourself?
Anyone telling you that confidence and love comes from within is a grifter, it's a fricking COPE for lonely adult people. It's painful to admit it but it's fricking true. MGTOW and Feminism are the same shit at the end of the day.
The hardest true to swallow is that we were wired to find a partner and reproduce, it's on our DNA, our most basic needs, that's the meaning of your life. And you will NEVER be complete without a loving partner at your side.
Anon I said to be confident and to like yourself, not to go your whole life without a partner.
Stop responding to what you want me to have said and start responding to what I ACTUALLY said you fricking autist.
If you intend to remain a complacent member of the Black personcattle herd then this is great advice.
DONT try to overcome your basest desires
DONT strive for divinity
DONT parasitize industrial society
DO waste your life pining after goo holes
DO work
DO consume
DO reproduce
>DONT strive for divinity
Sure, diying alone, hopeless and as the last member of your bloodline is reaching "divinity"
Standard Black personcattle response. Your "bloodline" is a smattering of genetics patterns shared by millions of people which will be diluted indefinitely after your death. This assuming your descendants, unaware of and indifferent to your existence, will survive in scenarios beyond your control. Your programming is trying to override your logic, fight and overcome. You in a futile fight against the transience of your own existence, you need to elevate your fight past the material.
Then die alone but die in silence. Don't try to drag others to your misery. You are weak.
No argument. Keep coping.
anon, debating with mgtown's it's literally impossible, they are beyond salvation. they never saw one example of their cult work out. but they don't stop beliving
Who were the MGTOWs in the thread though?
I saw only one- the moron with the glowing eyes Trump pic-and that was it.
Absolutely horrible thread.
Your "confidence" is false and built on a house of cards. Enjoy going back to square zero when (not if) your relationship ends.
You could have walked properly, been nice to people, actually done stuff at work, gone to the gym, or bought new clothes at any time before meeting your gf. In fact, that's exactly what MOST pleasant and successful people ARE doing. On a daily basis even.
Of course having a girlfriend can increase your confidence, but that doesn't mean it's the only way.
Are you sure you're actually confident if you are still making such hasty generalizations?
why these morons who never been in a relationship are so dedicated to spam this bullshit andrew tate mindset?
you guys are literally telling someone who did it how he is wrong and you guys are right even though you haven't done it.
Anon, the bottom 3 of those are all me.
You mind explaining to me how I've somehow never been in a relationship? I've had plenty and have a gf now.
I think YOU are the one who never had a gf if you're rolling over for this moron OP and are impressed he lucked his way into a girl, as if that's hard.
>ooh you have a gf, tell me more how to act daddy
Pathetic, and funnily enough literally the same mindset that Tate fans have.
okay, source >trust me anon
i though this because everyone i know who spam this "improve yourself" bullshit are losers whose never had or ruined their relationships. but if you said you are doing fine ok, keep that lad. thing is is not working for the majority of people.
>okay, source >trust me anon
Black person do you want me to give a "source" that I've had girlfriends? I think too many "debates" on NSFFW have melted your brain.
>everyone i know who spam this "improve yourself" bullshit are losers whose never had or ruined their relationships
Are they really though? Or do you just want/need them to be?
> thing is is not working for the majority of people.
The majority of people are not actually doing it.
moronic. If you need a woman in order to be confident, you are completely worthless to literally everyone.
what if your gf is a fat lazy hog and she kills your self esteem by looking like shit in public w/ you? id be more confident not having a gf at that point
It's not about having a GF it's about having hope, and modern society does everything it can to crush people's hopes of anything improving.
Then don't date that girl?
It's not about having a GF it's about having rope*
FTFY
How did you guys get gfs with low confidence? I'm 26 never had a gf only had sex a couple of times, I have my life in order, fit, great job, friends, goals, etc, but have no confidence with women due to inexperience.
interacting with women with low self confidence, which is a huge number of them
Where do I find them? I never really see women my age irl so the only way I can meet them is on apps but I think I'm very bad at texting/making them like me because they always ghost
Confidence can come from a variety of sources and can be influenced by many factors. Making a girlfriend is not a requirement for developing confidence, and confidence is not a requirement for making a girlfriend.
Having a romantic partner can certainly boost one's confidence and self-esteem, but it is not the only way to gain confidence. Confidence can also come from achieving personal goals, overcoming challenges, developing new skills, and building positive relationships with friends and family.
It's worth noting that confidence can fluctuate and can be affected by life events, so it's important to work on building and maintaining confidence through a variety of means.
Ultimately, confidence is a personal journey and it's important to focus on building self-confidence, self-esteem and self-love. The more you like and accept yourself, the more likely you are to attract the right person in your life.
Only good take from the thread.
>It's worth noting that confidence can fluctuate and can be affected by life events, so it's important to work on building and maintaining confidence through a variety of means
It is also important to notice that you can be confident in some areas of your life and not in others. You carey around with confidence if overall you're confident where your life is going
This post sounds like it was made with ChatGPT or some AI
It's less black and white than that. Confidence doesn't just magic appear; it comes from your own sense of self worth. Some people need a push to feel it, which something like getting into a relationship can provide (after all, it's literal proof someone else finds you worthy of being with). Some people naturally feel it on their own.
Yeah but if she leaves and you’re no longer confident and your world comes crashing down you’re going to have a massive wake up call
A girlfriend should be adding to your life, not making it.
Let me address the elephant in the room. What does pic have to do with confidence? it just shows hollywood manlets coping lol. this is a manlet bait thread.
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