I am trying to learn how to talk to women. I am pllanning on going to a yoga and dance class. Would you guys have any other recommendations for places to do so, or tips to help my goal?
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I am trying to learn how to talk to women. I am pllanning on going to a yoga and dance class. Would you guys have any other recommendations for places to do so, or tips to help my goal?
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people can sense desperation and horniness from a mile away and once they know you’re just there to pick up chicks they will steer clear of you.
pathetic
Yes its so horrifying how men think they deserve a chance to be happy or loved, truly pathetic just as you said.
Even your picture of choice screams desperate, mentally ill incel
Cool it with the antisemitic remarks.
Who hurt you anon? Why are you so bitter?
I can’t believe how much men struggle with interacting with women and finding sexual/romantic success. Granted these men might be a minority, the average man isn’t that successful with women but good enough to not feel like they might die alone or stay single forever. But they are a large minority.
It goes way deeper than “you don’t work out enough” imo, I’m interested in any studies.
I honestly feel likes it’s gonna get worse down the years,especially since promiscuity will only become more normalized so these men will feel like they’re the only ones not getting any play
I can't believe society seems so blind to this. How are we still pretending in movies/tv/articles/magazines that a very average man can just get a relationship "normally", without having to find hundreds and hundreds of women to ask out and date first? Why is this gaslighting so acceptable to maintain?
society gaslights everyone into thinking "hurr durr if you're good looking and you got cash then you will be happy" no, i am not happy. It is already difficult to talk to women, and when i ask someone on a date and chat with her a bit, i find out she is a vaxxed tard with dead eggs.
i don't care anymore, or at least i pretend that i don't care. frick this gay earth, let it all crash and burn.
why do you care if they already got their vaccines? its not like they are gonna force to get them this late in the game
>why do you care if they already got their vaccines?
already implies massive difference in values, not good for a healthy relationship.
also there is a probability that she will have fertility issues. and i actually want to start a family.
also
>inb4 you will die alone chud
better alone than being with a vaxxed tard.
people don't go just getting vaxxed because they don't believe in the globohomosexual agenda, its because they don't want to die and thats it, they don't really care what NSFFW schizos think about it
good for them, equality still applies. as an unvaxxed man i want an unvaxxed woman.
simple as. it is no rocket science.
it just baffles me to know that people nowadays consider if the person they are going to meet and get along with in a circle of friends are vaxxed or not, as if just that was a redflag or a dealbreaker I just don't understand the logic behind it, its not politics, its not religion, its not nationality, its not culture, not language, not economic differences and upbringing. Its just WEIRD
>its not politics
usually it wouldn't be, but the past two years completely proved otherwise. for example, if i mention right now to my employer than i am not vaxxed, there is a decent chance that it will get me in trouble. look me in the eyes and tell me this is not political.
Male sexlessness is spiking and half of men age 18-30 are single. No one really cares enough to study it because no one actually cares when men are struggling. But yeah, it's going to get a LOT worse. 40% of Japanese adult men have never been on a date, and they're the canary when it comes to decline of male dating. I won't be shocked to see 50% young male virginity rates in my lifetime.
I don't get how so many men are such losers, are they all mentally ill? What the hell is the problem, it's not that hard to get laid/get a gf, you just have to not be desperate and actually have a normal semi successful life which is also not hard to achieve
what are those sexless men doing with their life? playing league of legends all day or some shit? i dont get it
>it's not that hard to get laid/get a gf
how can i explain this? i don't want a gf, i don't want to get laid. i want to find a woman who will be a decent mother to my children. and everyone i met so far is disappointing.
i said that overall about getting a gf. Finding a genuinely good woman whom you could spend your life with and raise children with is definitely pretty hard, i think you mainly just have to get lucky and run into her and start dating her or whatever
but getting any run of the mill gf is really not hard at all, but finding the one is
i still havent found mine so i guess i havent gotten lucky yet lol
>but getting any run of the mill gf is really not hard at all
yah i agree with that part. it was difficult for me until i got my act together and it became easy for me to talk to women. only to be ultra blackpilled to learn how really super god damn awfully difficult to find "the one".
to me it is soul crushing because i don't like "casual" relationships. so i choose to be alone until some miracle comes my way.
What if you don't want a gf but someone you could spend your life with? Who can actually understand you and who you can truly love back?
I've sorta just come to expect that 99.999% of the time looking for that will be a miss, you need to gradually work up
>What the hell is the problem, it's not that hard to get laid/get a gf
If that were true 30% of men over 18 wouldn't be virgins.
The reality is that it's never been harder to get women to stick around.
>what are those sexless men doing with their life? playing league of legends all day or some shit? i dont get it
I'm this guy
and I'm spending all my free time trying to meet women and make new friends. I still find it very rough. Why would a woman just fall into my lap? I still feel like I barely exist admist all this social activity, because part of me knows that 50% of my social life (the part that isn't longtime friends+family) is a temporary fire that is only sustained by me throwing more and more logs into it. As soon as I stop pumping energy into going to these meetups/classes I'm never going to see them again. And if I stop sending out text messages to new acquaintances, they won't contact me.
All I can do for dates is to keep fishing from a pool of strangers from these activities. I figure I have to burn through hundreds upon hundreds of rejections to get enough first dates so that one might turn into a relationship.
Not him but I only want a virgin gf/wife. I'm doing alright and make six figures just incredibly hard to find a decent girl
you can only hope to met a virgin girl if you are in your early twenties, after that there is no chance whatsoever of that happening. Also its not a redeeming quality if they are virgins, its more of a hassle than anything, people should actually prefer women that have been in at least 2 relationships before themselves because being in a relationships with someone that doesn't know what they want is tiring
I don't care I want a virgin, I want to stay a virgin for her. I don't care if there's no chance. I'll do what I can or die I suppose
unfathomably based. never give in to them. having extra-marital sex was never normal no matter how much they want to push it on us.
then it comes relationship problems and no sex marriages, is that what you want?
If I love someone and they love me back I want to have sex often with them to show them my love and also make them feel good, but that can't happen if we are actually incompatible and don't like what the other person likes in bed, even though sex isn't the most important thing in a relationship its pretty important otherwise sooner or later you will be sleeping in separate single beds or something
>and no sex marriages,
never seen anyone outside of America talk about this.
i agree with the compatibility issues though, but it doesn't stop the other anon from finding a compatible virgin.
basing the entire relationship on virginity is moronic.
None of these men are losers
They're all massivly succesfull
Their only problem is that contact with women no longer exsists outside of ones social circle after schools anymore
Sexless men never play league, they just aren't in school so they have no opportunity to speak to women
If they quit their work and went to school they'd have sex and relationships very quickly
There is no struggle with interacting with women once they actually have a chance to speak to them. The problem is that men no longer have possibility to do that after graduating.
Men should just not work and stay in schools as long as humanly possible, there is no society for men beyond schools, there is no opportunity to speak to women, no chance to have sex or form relationships. Work is what forces them to stay single forever and die alone. School is the only way out for them, school is their only chance to talk to women, to form relationships, to have sex.
Because they don't, you just need to be in school and have 2-3 women to talk to and one of them will go out with you. But men don't have hundreds of women, they don't have a single one after school ends.
..... All I wanted were places to meet women and tips on how to talk to them, what are you people talking about?
get a dating app you fat cuck and chat with the prostitutes for a few days and invite them to meet up
You calle me a fat frick, yet you tell me to sit on my ass and let an app do my work? Are you okay?
>can't grasp deeper themes and arguments beyond his own bullshit
>pays for NSFFW
Seems about right lol
>I am trying to learn how to talk to women.
Church, walking/hiking groups, bar meetups, rock climbing meetups, meetups classified as social/friend-making groups. Sometimes concerts and museums.
Yoga and dance don't have lots of talking, but dance is better in that regard. You can "meet" people at both places, but you have to be comfortable starting a conversation and then doing something with it.
Thank you, most useful information.
>Church
rofl
Yoga and dance classes do not work, women automatically hate all men who try to talk to them in yoga and dance classes are just other single men
If you want to meet women your only options are school and your group of friends (at parties and such)
All of these are wrong
>church, walking/hiking groups
its just old dying people coming to a mass, no socializing and no women
>bar meetups
people in bars only meet up with people they already know, never with strangers. going to a bar is a completely solitayr and miserable experience
>meetups classified as social/friend-making groups
in order to go to these you already need to know people there, if OP isn't already going to them (and he isn't) he can't ever get to one
>rock climbing meetups
it's just men
>Sometimes concerts and museums
No, there's never a chance to speak to anyone there. Have you ever even been to one? No one talks to strangers in museums, only women there come in with their boyfriends. Concerts are too fricking loud to ever speak to anyone and again everyone comes in with their own friends
>Yoga and dance don't have lots of talking
Just like all of the activities you named. Nothing you wrote offers a chance to say a single word to a woman. You cannot meet women in any of these places, there's no chance to start a conversation anywhere you said
Nothing he wrote is usefull. It's all copypasted shit from reddit that he's never done in his life, especially the church and concerts part. He hasn't done anything he's writing about and has no fricking clue, he never even thought about the shit he's copypasting
>Concerts are too fricking loud to ever speak to anyone and again everyone comes in with their own friends
Talk louder. The voice is a muscle. You have to train it by singing or talking more on a daily basis.
I would reply to your other shit that is wrong but I can't be bothered
Black person you're not gonna talk louder than the concert, everyone talks on daily basis, there's nothing to practice there
no one one goes to a concert for a stranger to yell near them, they're there to listen to some shitty fricking band
no it's not
there's no talking going on in church whatsoever and there's no young women going there whatsoever
it's just old people coming to miss in silence and leaving in silence preparing to die
no young women, no talking, no option to practice talking to women, there's nothing reliable about it, there's nothing there
>Black person you're not gonna talk louder than the concert, everyone talks on daily basis, there's nothing to practice there
>no one one goes to a concert for a stranger to yell near them, they're there to listen to some shitty fricking band
I've done it. Hot girl stared at me from across the room. I walked up to her and yelled hi to her and her friend and neither of us could hear shit. All you have to do is nonverbally lead them away to a quieter place after the show ends and they're standing around aimlessly.
no one is ever "standing around aimlessly" everyone just goes home with their friends, and it's so crowded there's no option to follow anyone, there's too many people
and you didn't "talk" to her, she most likely hasn't heard your "hi" at all. it's not talking, it's not a conversation.
Sorry you feel that way. She stared at me at the end too btw but I didn't do shit because I was an incel 23 year old, probably same as you.
>no it's not
>there's no talking going on in church whatsoever and there's no young women going there whatsoever
>it's just old people coming to miss in silence and leaving in silence preparing to die
Challenge accepted: what's your city or state? Have you tried looking at local church websites for social hours?
I clearly won the fricking challenge since you failed to show an example of young women talking to strangers in a church.
There's no such thing as "social hours" the building is fricking empty outside of mass. Do you even know what a church is? You people are moronic, no one who talks about churches here has ever been in one.
post city or state you homo
i'm not gonna dox myself you homo
you can't post state? Post the region of the US that you are either from or currently reside in: Northeast, Southwest, West, Southeast, or Midwest
I don't live in us
you don't need to go to church to talk to people in USA, in USA people are very open to talking to strangers on streets because all women there are warm and welcome socializing with strangers no matter the situation, all women in america just talk to anyone who walks up to them as if they knew each other
no one who lives in usa would ever need to "practice" talking to women or have to go to yoga like OP does because it's impossible not to have a gf in usa thanks to how socially welcoming the women are there
are you really the same anon or are you just continuing his joke by moving the goalposts?
>joke
it's true, there's no option to talk to anyone in churches
no young women, no socializing
just old people coming to mass to pray before dying
you might as well try to talk to women by buying a grave site or staying inside staring at clock
it's just killing time preperaing to die, it's the most depressing place in the world that offers no opportunity to speak to women
all young women just go and spend time with their friends, they drink or dance or go to picnics with them
none of them go to church, why the frick would they do that? they don't think about dying because it's not an immediate threat for them
do people who recommend this church shit even think? just stop and think for a second, why the frick would a young woman go to church instead of going to her friends house to spend nice afternoon together? why go to cold, boring chuch instead of a party to drink and listen to music and dance with all her friends?
it's not just that they don't understand what a church is, they fundamentally do not understand how a human being feels or behaves
they're spamming, mindless bots who post this shit purely because they saw other people post it
and then other mindlesss bots see it and need to post it again and again, even though they've never gone to church, because they're moronic sheep
yeah school is just the best
I want to figure out a way to stay there forever next time I go, get a teaching job in uni or something
I just wish I could see what that anon looks like right now, it would be funny
Imagine him sitting alone in his room typing about how no one is able to get women outside of universities
Read the book of pook
I thought I was a borderline virgin shut in, but that was because I suck at getting causal sex. I never had trouble finding relationships with sexy partners. Id trade that for being able to get hookups and FWBs any second though
yes, don't try to frick or do anything sexual with them, they'll always find out and are not in these places to do that. As for other tips, act as if they were guys to you. It'll help go past the "woman = aliens" barrier.
And most importantly remember that they are humans and not some random objects with who you can mess with.
Good luck though and have fun !
unfortunately, people smell "desperation" miles away and whenever you have the goal of meeting women shit never works out, god forbid a man wants to be loved, but alas, this is the reality we are living, I hope you find love, Godspeed.
I'm a 27 year old virgin. I'm NSFFW with abs, have a cool car and a nice apartment, a good job, hobbies, etc. People say that you shouldn't go after women, you should work on yourself and they'll come to you. And that's what I've done most of my life, and it never lead to women. The handful of times in my life when a cute girl did initiate and we went out, I always messed it up before we could have sex. But now I'm at the point in my life where I'm not even around women enough for them to come up to me anymore. It's not like college where the gym is full of hot girls my age and one will just come up to you and ask for you number. Day-to-day I don't interact with women in their 20s at all and I don't even know where to go to fix this. My friends are guys, my coworkers are all guys or boomers, my hobbies are mostly masculine or solitary like surfing or fishing. I'm not depressed or blackpilled or even that desperate I just don't know where to even start
>virgin
frick that’s hard. are you on apps? best place to meet. get good photos and a good line and you’ll talk to girls. at worst it’ll just be good experience with women
I've been using these apps for a couple years and it goes nowhere. I match at least once per day with a girl I find cute but when I message her she always ends up ghosting within a few messages, when I ask her out, or right before the actual date. The few times I do end up going on a date with a girl who isn't a hippo they always end up ghosting afterwards
that's rough man, you deserve better
I try to avoid any feelings of entitlement when it comes to this sort of thing, but I can't help but think that I've done pretty much everything else in my life above average in a way that should make me conventionally attractive (and I know form what little experience I have with women that physically I'm at least average to above average looking, certainly not deformed or fugly) yet I'm slowly falling into this hole that is harder to get out of as far as getting older with very little experience when women expect you to have like a decades worth of experience at this point...
Quit your job and go to university again. University is excactly what you need to fix your life.
Tinder does not work for men. Tinder is absolute worst place to meet women. It doesn't even let you see them in person. There's 100 men per each 1 woman and they are flooded with so many messages they can't ever read your line or speak to you. It offers no chance whatsoever to actually "talk" (as in see them in person and speak words out loud) and it's not any kind of experience. There's nothing possibly happeningm, there is no interaction happening whatsoever. There's millions of men, all with good photos and good lines and none of them are speaking to women unless they look like supermodels because of how impossible the math involved is.
It's not an experience of any kind. If you took a child and forced them into solitary confinement until they'd died they'd have just as good of experience with women as a man on tinder.
Just do it and don't worry about it. Asking more questions won't help you
Church is a reliable place to talk to women if you literally want practice "talking". If it needs to be younger women then you have to find the right church.
I met most interested girls in part time student jobs. I'm introverted and I've still had no problem talking to them there and attracting them. Mind you, I'm a 5'9" manlet and I don't look too great either, though I do have a distinct look. Make sure to find a job that women work, like cushy office bullshit, though I've met them also in factories. All these girls were young because they were also on student contracts like I was.
So yes, school/uni anon is right when he spams. Go back to it if you aren't in college anymore. In fact, NEVER leave college. Just sign up for another and get new degrees your entire life. Your dick will thank you.