What are good E levels for effective feminization? I'm on sort of an experimental regimen. I don't take a typical AA (I take dutasteride) and I do topical E 8mg/g (2 clicks daily on my balls) with 2mg oral sublingual. My levels are ~600pg/mL estradiol and ~50 to 100ng/dL testosterone total, ~4 to 10pg/mL free. I've been on this current regimen about 3 months and idk if anything is changing except I have little boobies now and my d*ck hurts when I get hard (which is rarely now).
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600 e is very high (within normal) and there's no reason that i know of to be taking subl with topical e. t is fine.
you are fine just relax, it's been 3 months which is like no time at all, this can take years
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Between 400 and 800 is good!
Your testosterone level is still way to high. 50-100ng/dl is bad, you want less than 30ng/dl.
I assume the 600pg/ml is a trough right? The lowest point of the day?
You should be suppressing testosterone at that level, so something is up, really should start an AA to fix your T levels. 7
Are levels of 16 testosterone & 150 estrogen bad?
I'm eight months in, & my E levels are lower than anyone else I know on HRT
150 isn't bad, and your T is suppressed. 200pg/ml troughs are what you should shoot for, but 150pg/ml isn't bad at all. Doing pill's I suppose?
Oh and for anyone doing monotherapy, you should shoot for at least 250-300pg/ml as that's where most people can go to suppress there testosterone.
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50 MG Spiro, 6 mg estradiol pills a day
Probably gonna start progesterone soon
A 150pg/ml trough for 2mg's 3x daily sublingual isn't bad. Maybe if you held it in your mouth longer you could raise it a little, but no huge need if you rather not.
If you start prog, do 200mg's rectally a day. It's a proper dose.
Isnt that t quite high mine stays around 20
>have had possibly over 700 for 2 years
700 troughs? Injections? It's not the worst, nothing will frick up a transition like under dosing.
Over dosing is like hardly a problem in comparison.
How are you boob's though?
i worry more about brain function and other possible unseen issues
>boobs
tiny
e-girl breasts
spiro when starting for 3 mos 5 years ago may ahve fricked me forever
how would spiro you?
*frick you?
It doesn't, not in regards to breast growth. At least any evidence supporting that it does is really baseless. And the mechanism behind why it might hasn't been explained.
So dont worry about that.
There's tons of trans women complaining being stuck having cone breasts due to taking spiro and cone breasts seem to be specifically spiro related phenomenon. You don't hear or see cypro users complaining about this.
Spiro doesn't mess your boobs up, but high e levels can stunt or lower growth possible.
But having high levels like that isn't a problem, esp not through injections.
Wont cause any brain issues, or body ones. In fact it gives you a better mood and more sexual desire.
It's just not the best for breast growth or fat patterning, but 700 isn't even a crazy level, and 5 years it's less important.
Like I had 3500pg/ml for 3.5 years lol.
mine were normal wehn i was on pills for 2 years
so idk why i got no breasts
i was 2 years pills and cypro (got lactation so worried about porolactinoma in my head still even if i dont now) and then moved to lena ev
High levels don't stunt breast growth, but spiro very likely does. Prog may also stunt if taken too early. Both are anecdotal, but there's so much evidence that I'd be careful with them.
Remember that full boob growth needs around 10 years just like it does in cis women. It's a slow process and you could very well end up staying tiny for years. There are some genetic luckshits who get full boob growth in few years, but it is rare and has nothing really to do with HRT regimen. Most people don't seem to realize this.
I wouldn't worry about spiro, as the studies backing that are insanely weak, and stunted growth seems to occur across all regiments. No good theory either why it could do that either. Very high dose monotherapy has some merit for stunting breasts growth, with possible mechanisms at least, and anecdotes.
One reason younger trannies tend to get larger boobs is because their growth factors are much higher, they dramatically lower leading up to and after 25. But regiment can make a difference.
I'd avoid spiro personally, but not in fear of issues with breast growth.
Trannies complain about that all the time despite whatever regiment they are using. I've seen many complain on spiro/cypro/bica/injections. All of it.
>300-500
I'd agree.
There's no such thing as overdosing unless you purposefully do it and go over 1000, but anything under that is fine.
It's just that it's important to never go lower than 200pg/ml and even then 150 maybe enough for full feminization, but it will feel shitty like low energy, low libido thing. In my experience 300-500 is the perfect zone for good energy, libido and feminization.