Bumble recently changed their service so now men can make the first move. If it's not apparent why they did this it's because not enough men are using it. Online dating is already difficult enough for average / below average men, and Bumble's "women make the first move" policy basically made it impossible. The entire business model for dating apps is selling boosts and other perks to these undesirable men. The problem is that sooner or later these men will pick up on the grift and realize that no amount of boosts will make them desirable. In other words there's not enough carrot on the stick for the men to want to chase it. I imagine in the coming months / years we'll start seeing more and more changes to make these services more beneficial to men. Now I don't necessarily think they will matter as at the end of the day these men are still undesirable, but it'll still be nice to see these apps slowly and slowly die.
Men should just pay directly to women for a chance to speak, say $20 per message.
Don't give them ideas anon...
>$5.99 - 1 message (20 characters max)
>$8.99 - 2 messages (20 characters max, ea.)
>$16.99 - 4 messages (20 characters max, ea.)
>add emojis for $2.99
You were oddly close, it's $6 each for the first two messages.
This is already a thing on bumble. "Compliments" bypass the women must text first rule and you are allowed to compliment people you haven't matched with yet.
These are $6.00 a piece and sold in a minimum of a set of 2.
I hope you're joking anon, that sounds depressing af
>t. never used bumble
He's not joking, I looked it up and that's an actual thing. Lmao.
I don't use bumble as the foids are wayyy to picky there.
i'm average face, above average body and wealth and height
you know a hooker is 60eur 30 min in Europe.
Why keep Americans cucking themselves except nevada which is fairly based.
how long do you think she will live for?
who?
also why is the pepe image so big?
bot post??
Is it like a pay for feature or by default? Literally why when they already own tinder
It's by default.
>Literally why when they already own tinder
They still need to show user-growth to their investors. Even if Bumble isn't as important as Tinder, a loss in popularity will still spook investors.
I have really seen dating apps fall. They are not working well and have been getting so expensive to use as a man. I get a lot more pussy these days on friend finder apps.
>friend finder apps
Such as?
im not the og poster, but, yubo has been working for me. a lot of social media morons are on there but you can find girls similar to you
lol, this shit?, it looks so lame
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/o3d1EJIEpmU
thats the thing I have come to realize about zoomers, they use these homosexual nerd tier apps more than organically meeting people.
the more stupid the app the more its being used.
Ur actually a pedophile if you use yubo
I used that shit when I was 16 it is ONLY young teens in highschool
Kys anon
im not the yubo user that a different anon, i was just replying to the person calling it lame and i was agreeing and just saying dumb apps are for zoomer kids.
Oh ok ily anon. Mwah.
There's barely anything to do other than go to work once you graduate uni. Your romantic prospects are pretty much dead after that. I've resigned myself to it. I won't get women on apps because I'm ugly, I wouldn't be able to get them irl, and I don't have enough of a social media presence to message random instagram girls. It's becoming clearer to me by the day that there is a high chance I will reach wizardhood and never have a partner. I went to college in hopes of improving as a person and starting a productive career before I try dating in earnest, but it seems that I should have instead spent more time actually dating in college as that was really the last chance. Guess I got 40 years to retirement...
see:
and anons I mean everything with love.
its tough love you need to shake off the homosexual pussyness and man tf up.
youre all kings and need to start acting like it.
you will find someone, but you cannot give up and stay all negative.
>Doesn't mention any of the good friend finder apps
wiener tease
anon that was a LARP
I think what we can see is the rise of an app that just connects people together, or infrastructure in real life that uses the internet to connect people. There's no reason you can't just search out people from a list going both ways.
Isn't that basically Facebook?
Facebook can delete stuff too willy nilly, plus it's atrocious at the actual act of connecting people.
Women don't need this, because they will be welcome no matter where they go and they can choose to engage and disengage with communities the same way a billionaire can choose between an expensive restaurant and eating at home.
Dating apps exist to allow average women into the few remaining gated gardens (Chad's dad's boat).
You know there are sites and other apps right? Internet dating will not die, people became too unskilled at socializing, especially zoomers.
The only reason these apps exist is because undesirable men pay for subscriptions and boosts. Without those men the companies won't make any money, and these men have no reason to use these apps if they're not successful on them.
I have a related question. Every woman I've talked to says they have the most success on bumble or hinge despite using tinder as well. Every man (myself included) has the best luck on tinder out of all of them. Why?
Because Bumble (at-least before the change) has a better experience for women. They (didn't) have to deal with undesirable men swiping on them and could only choose the men they want. Conversely with Tinder, the men are more successful because even if they aren't good looking enough to be swiped on they can still try their luck by swiping (that simple dopamine hit for the woman might just be enough to give you a shot).
They've strained the male userbase too much with the nickel and diming on these apps. Tinder and Badoo literally don't work without paying anymore. They show you the mosaics of who liked you but then they ghost that profile from the stack and paying is the only way you're ever going to see it. On top of that, the noob boost lasts less each time. It used to be two to three days, now it's like three hours or something.
>On top of that, the noob boost lasts less each time. I
You're actually right, or it's that the user base decreased so drastically it appears that way. I went from getting 15-20ish likes down to 10, with an increasingly large number of them being bots
I've unironically had better luck on that tiny NSFFW dating app that's practically dead that mainstream ones.
>NSFFW dating app
anon those are all trannies
Surprisingly, the ones I've talked to haven't been troons.
How do you know that?
>(it) told me
I have immaculate troon detection skills when they post pics.
What app?
t. Adblocker
>dating apps
humiliation ritual
Truly, they are.
>Online dating is already difficult enough for average / below average men, and Bumble's "women make the first move" policy basically made it impossible
I think they said it was because women were complaining about how hard it was to make the first move lmao.
How??? Men would leap to talk to a fricking tree if it spoke first, nevermind pussy.
Because women are narcissists. Unless you're a 10/10 gigachad she's going to feel insulted by having to swipe first.
I've actually seen guys complaining about women being unoriginal in their approaches, and rightly so, considering that women constantly talk shit about guys starting DMs with "Hi" while doing the same shit.
>considering that women constantly talk shit about guys starting DMs with "Hi" while doing the same shit
women don't need to be creative or come up with a cool pick up line (unless you're brad pitt ofc). on dating apps the men have to do the monkey dance and "win" the woman's attention.
Here's the monkey dance
Is that a boner buldge????????
(my gay friend wants to know)
plz answer i.. err my friend really wants to know
Yeah because we are lonely and feel unwanted by the world.
Men naturally seek companionship and brotherhood, we crave bonding and belonging.
I can't believe I'm old enough that the rise and fall of dating apps have both occurred within my adult life.
>not enough men are using it
all dating apps are majority male. usually by a huge margin.
it's obviously still overwhelmingly male, but i guarantee the number of male active users has been falling hard as of recent.
Best time to get in then. stonks
Used both bumble and tinder, genuinely tried for 6 months. I never got a single reply or talked to anyone in that time.
Why am i hated, why do people not want to interact with me.I was trying to sociable on a social app Its very depressing to be consistently excluded, over and over again.No amount of trying to improve yields any results. I have become broken and angry.
I wish great misery upon the people responsible for these profit driven apps like match.com and i will there watching it as it all burns down into ash and rubble before everyone's eyes.
>I never got a single reply or talked to anyone in that time
Same, and I've tried many more apps and for much longer.
I've gotten farther by adding random women from /soc/ on Discord, ffs. Dating apps just DO NOT WORK. There is no way to game it, nothing, it's just completely pointless to use them.
6 months is CRAZY
Ur probably just ugly or fat
Or your profile screams rapist. If that is the case do not put ur actual interests on ur profile, just put down shit that is true but women would also like. Or do what I do and put very little on your profile. It works.
After a day your profile is buried, it doesn't matter if you stay for 6 months.
I got like a couple of women to at least send messages on Tinder after weeks and weeks of nothing, but I never once got a single message on Bumble. It seemed way worse.
Dating apps only exist so women can scan all the available chads where they live
If you aren't chad and you are in one of those you are just a paypig there to have your data stolen or sold "premium" stuff lmao
Any robots use hinge? My friend seemed to have by far the most success with it but he's a chadlite with good pics and a lot of confidence so idk how real his results are
>but he's a chadlite with good pics
I was told that I had "bad pics" so I let a female friend at work pic "good pics". I had even worse results.
Hinge sucks for me, tinder is way better. But I have no personality just chad face so the "message them based on something on their bio" thing doesn't really work for me and I'm better served keeping the autism back and waiting for them to message first. Which they do on tinder but never hinge or bumble.
Bumble sucks
All the women are bullshit career women (teachers, marketers, nurses) and most of the time when you match they just go
>hi
and expect you to carry the conversation anyway
I got laid on OKCupid way more than Bumble (I use past tense because I stopped being active on dating sites)
I got banned from Tinder for telling an OF seller i was reporting her to the tax man.
Kind of liberating, really.
I met my gf on Tinder. She was very fat due to uterus cancer treatment + hormones fricking up. We are now both much skinnier due to returning to better eating habits and swimming.
Dating apps are so moronic. Everyone on there is desperate. Currently fricking with this girl I met off tinder, which I tried to dump last week. Were both 18 and I ended up taking her virginity so she freaked tf out thinking she was some kind of bawd or something because I tried to dip after she let me hit. Now she is offering even more sex to get back together, which I politely accepted. Everyone on tinder is lonely and desperate, but it is good if u want tight pussy. Currently just trying to speedrun getting aids so I have a reason to kms.
shitty larp. here are some suggestions for next time...
1. girls are not and will never be desperate, not even for chad. that's a instant giveaway that you're larping.
2. the vast-majority of 18yo girls are not virgins. most girls have sex by 14-15 at the earliest and 16-17 at the latest.
Not even close to LARPing
1. Girls are desperate for guys that are their type. You would not know this, since youre built like Humpty Dumpty
2. All four girls Ive fricked minus one have been virgins. Its almost like not all of them are bawds in highschool.
Maybe get ur game up anon, I love being right
>All four girls Ive fricked minus one have been virgins
>Maybe get ur game up anon, I love being right
its easier to pull chicks by just messaging them on instagram & it's free.
the hottest chicks I pulled came from instagram.
dont pay for dating apps. use snapchat too.
i've DMed quite a few friends of friends, never got anywhere with that either. and my social media profile is prety fricking curated to be eye catching and make me look good.
cold approach at clubs/venues is the way for me
I've been on there for years and got barely any likes, when compared to Tinder, OkC and FB Dating.
Shit, even my recently re-registered PoF profile has gotten a few likes.
Sadly, my likes never speak and usually unmatch or block. If they really wanted me, they'd message first, but they're all in Chad's inbox.
Bumble's blurring of likes and jumbling of their photos is so bad that I can't tell who my likes are. I missed out on a couple of matches.
I don't swipe much on anything anymore.
Bumble is now $45 a month, $140 for 6 months. Yikes.
Complained about dating apps to my dad.
>We used to meet people IRL
I literally never see a single woman between 22-40 anywhere who isn't working or at the gym.
>We used to go to bars
I used to try to go to bars. There are 3 kinds of bars: dives (90% men, 10% women they are dating long term) college bars (after age 25 it's awkward to go there) and high end bars (used to impress your date). Unless you're in college or just graduated you're shit out of luck
>Have you tried a IRL meetup site
Meetup sites for events are basically all for boomers. Again, no single woman from 22-40 anywhere.
>Work
My mom met my dad at work. They were both getting paid significantly better than me and had no issues dating each other, despite being in a supervisor/employee dynamic.
>My mom met my dad at work.
Unironically one of places people try to avoid dating the most because of how risky it is for men to get hit with a sexual harassment claim and lose everything.
Yep. Most workplaces I've been at have heavily discouraged it.
My best friend from University found his GF at a meetup.com board game event. They're both in their late 20s
I've looked through every event within 25 miles for a few weeks. Every woman on there is 45+. It literally shows you everyone who is going to attend so you can know if it's worthwhile.
It shows that you aren't even looking. Consider the fact that there are no men under 60+ where you live, including yourself. You are 60+
keep making excuses and being lazy you will never get any pussy than you have to get rid of the little cry baby mentality and man tf up.
im fat, bald and brown and pull b***hes of any demographic and they arent ever fat or ugly.
the key is confidence and being well kept.
go to a barber say you wanna attract chicks and give you a make over and go to a stylist too.
you gotta use your fricking brain, attraction is a game and you need to learn how to play it.
making excuses for why you cant find women is homosexual. join a busy local gym and start going out to more social events.
MAN TF UP YOU AND STOP BEING LOSERS.
>im fat, bald and brown and pull b***hes of any demographic and they arent ever fat or ugly.
Post proof, homosexual
im not fricking post pics of myself with chicks on here no thanks but if you have telegram or instagram i can show you.
its not hard you just gotta not be poor either and be capable of taking hot chicks out on nice dates.
and dont call me a homosexual when im not the one who has to jerk off 24/7 cause i cant find a gf, thats you.
>im not fricking post pics of myself with chicks on here
Because you're lying
give me your telegram or instagram and I can show you. im not tryng to get doxxed by NSFFW moron.
it feels great to know you think im lying it makes me feel better, thanks.
now man tf up and get some hot pussy you little b***h crying woe is me.
and no homosexual I have love for you bros.
you need this tough love to man tf so you can become a pussy slayer.
you lack confidence and need to change your appearances and try new methods.
break out of your shells and become kings.
I met my last girlfriend (lasted 3 years) on bumble, but she had mental issues and it didn't work out. Before that I fricked like 8 girls I met there (like 4 of them fatties).
Not even a chad or chad lite. I wouldn't do it again, fricking around gives you nothing besides potential STDs. If you have little to no ways of meeting local women it's an OK way to get it out of your system, if you're psychologically strong enough to handle rejection or getting ghosted.
>Ask ChatGPT for advice on how to get more matches on a dating app
>"Be honest and open! Show people your interests!"
>What if nobody finds my hobbies interesting?
>"Don't be silly, people are especially receptive to honest people who enjoy what they love!"
>No, I'm serious. Nobody finds my hobbies interesting. I've gotten zero matches over the month.
>ChatGPT honest to God takes five minutes to respond before stuttering out how I shouldn't be discouraged
I think I can see why the suicide rate skyrockets with every passing year.
I did ok on the Boo dating app, but I got mostly women interested in me from south America and the Philippines. Only one ham beast white woman in the USA was interested.
*chomp*
endless CANDY
>match with some c**t
>she doesn't initiate a discussion the timer run off
Let women make the first move and they will find a excuse to not
i meet people irl or on less thirsty social media because dating app users mostly haven't been worth the trouble for me. People usually aren't in a good place when they're on those, and you're setting yourself up for abuse if you're not learning to enjoy going out on your own.
instagram is lowkey the best dating app, at least for the scenes i'm into in my city
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JhQI06_V6NQ
Dating apps are a boomer meme. They probably worked when there were only a few moronic introverts on the internet who wanted to find other moronic dumb frick introverts with zero brain cells.
First of all, with how big the internet is now, you can just go on instagram for literally free and find girls. No amount of "undesirable" will matter because you can always just find some other girl that is alone or vulnerable. Even the most disgusting, undesirable, degenerate people are getting dates through social media.
Second, men are starting to realize that there is literally no reason to let a tech billionaire control who you talk to. You can just find real women in the real world, and these days it has even become a positive virtue to be socially active in the real world and leave the internet behind. Manosphere cucks are trying to make it more of a trend, and women will follow and make it less extreme
>women will follow
Yeah, I'm sure women are just dying to be hit on by deluded 4/10 men who think they can make women like them by saying the right pickup line.
Pickup dorks are delusional because they want a trophy wife without actually being rich, and some of them don't even understand why transactional bullshit doesn't work. But unironically, yes. Besides the countless subcultures of men and women who already turn everything into a cringey innuendo, there are objective reasons why spending time on the internet these days is moronic, and disenfranchised manosphere types are accelerating the trend.
You're missing the point. If the moronic PUAcels are the ones "pushing the trend" no woman in her right mind would follow.
The moronic PUAcels are following the current trend earlier. Just like moronic, degenerate tech geeks adopted social media earlier.
>just slide into her DMs bro
>get b&
>just ask her out irl bro
>get arrested
you need to slide, not jam. i usually become acquainted irl before i DM anyone. sometimes they do it first
>just make a NSFFW post bro
>turn into a fashion model
>just listen to music bro
>your food in your refrigerator goes missing
bitches love $ and confidence first.
looks and personality are secondary.