repress? suicide?
>inb4 give it more time
I've been on E for 4 years and my voice passes but I've still never malefailed
Relationships uncensored
repress? suicide?
>inb4 give it more time
I've been on E for 4 years and my voice passes but I've still never malefailed
Ffs or chasercope on hrt
why would I become a chaser? why would I want to date an hsts who sees me as inferior to her and never stops reminding me what a man I am?
I wouldn't fit in at a gay bar, I'm too straight.
You've been on e for 4 years stop being dramatic
which poster are you?
>why would I become a chaser
But anon, you are a chaser to start with.
I'm not really a chaser. The closest thing to chaserism I have is a fear of cis women.
Honmode out to a gay bar or something just to get yourself some air and see how things go
give it more time things will turn out. maybe you will find yourself comfortable with how you present now or find new sense of style or self that presents more feminine. just mess around with it we believe in you op
Im a transbian. I like my girls clocky 😛
do you actually like women or just transwomen
I prefer women visually, but they treat my like a guy, so i prefer trans women emotionally and mentally. They tend to understand me better and vice versa.
why do you prefer clocky ones?
Becoz i am clocky. I appreciate androgyny in an artistic way. Not sexually. Im 100% AGP so im not super interested in sex with regular people anyways.
you're just a sexually demented pervert and everyone knows it. Just pull the trigger and be done with it. Simple as.
stuff like this is why I stay in the closet. Hate me all you want, but if you met me irl you wouldn't be able to tell me apart from any other guy.
If you look like a guy to everyone WTF is the point of trying to be a troony. One that looks like a guy and lusts after women, nonetheless. There's a reason you're in the closet. You can't pass and never will. Nobody wants you. Just have a nice day and taste the sweet release.
how did you get a passing voice anon? about to rope cuz i haven’t gotten anywhere in 8 months
oh i found you again
i still refuse to believe you did 5 voice teachers and still sound like a man
you're either lying or tone deaf
idk how it’s hard to understand lol, they gave very little homework instructions and i didn’t practise much at all so nothing changed
if you didnt practice then isn't "8 months" disingenuous?
by that logic: i wanted to change my voice when i was 15 but then i repressed for 10 years and now im working on it again. i wouldnt say i voice trained for 10 years lmfao
i practiced relatively consistently but i never said i was training full time just that i haven’t gotten anywhere in 8 months, because trainers don’t give me much help and i’m clearly autistic
ok legit question, do you want a voice training buddy? maybe you could find someone on one of the voice training discords? could be useful to have a real-time sounding board
i'd offer but you probably hate me
i’m way too anxious to ever do that, i’ve never even posted my voice for feedback ever, even the lessons make me feel sick with anxiety. i also don’t hate you
Ok well maybe get your GAD treated first then try to find a voice practice partner
basic steps:
1: learn how to control your larynx. The issue is that you aren't used to using the muscles consciously, so you need some kind of shortcut to teach your brain how to use them. Examples are this: http://lena.kiev.ua/voice/ and this: https://www.reddit.com/r/transvoice/comments/7r5ekb/lookin_for_some_larynx_lift_clarification/dsuomke/
There are more out there, but they all teach the same thing, so keep trying until you get one that works. This will increase your voice's resonance, but it'll take months of regular use before it stops sounding forced and unnatural and becomes something you can do for a sustained period of time.
2: practice for months. The easiest way is to do it in conversation with other people. Your biggest obstacle here is burnout, and conversations solve this by keeping you from getting bored and keeping you from listening to the sound of your cringe unpracticed troonyvoice for hours at a time. Try to just have conversations with other troons (or cis people you trust not to judge you). And remember, your voice sucking now doesn't make you masculine, it's just a step in the process. You wouldn't judge pasta by how it tastes raw.
so you like clocky troons because they don't make you feel bad about yourself the way passers/cis people do?
No I like them because they can empathize with my daily experience of being visibly trans. I have friends that are effectively stealth too, but if it's someone im intimate with, the common understanding and experience is nice.
I'm not visibly trans, I present as a cis guy.
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Lawl hi ginger! Hope youre well! Unfortunate to see you posting here, but glad to run into you again.
I don't know who you are but thanks I guess.
move to a college town, you’ll be fine.
and be treated like a freak but politely?
get off the internet and go outside
>nonpassing transbian
that's most of them