Why do all old men I talk to tell me to avoid women? I including dating and relationships and marriage. All of my uncles told me to not do it, my dad told me to not do it. They said it's a massive waste of time and that you gain nothing and they make your life a living hell. Should I trust them on this? I mean is literally every single old guy I've ever asked on this subject.
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People who have done it generally know more than people who haven't done it.
They're angry little old men who cant stand the fact that women have rights and dont need to rely on men anymore.
Because you get hurt. But that's how it is with relationships of any kind. You're gonna have fights and good times. It's just that with romantic relationships it all tends to be that much more intense than a friendship.
Women are parasites.
>women are parasites
>he himself was living 9 months inside a woman in a parasitic relationship
Weak bait
What a shit argument.
Lol go seeth over there.
Git.
>she herself was living 9 months inside a woman in a parasitic relationship
all I had to do was change 3 letters.
what they mean is, just frick random bawds.
have you tried asking them why? most probably they will tell you that women are nice at the start but they start controlling you more and more, and they make your life hell.
of course not all women will be like this, but...
ok, this is bait, but it triggered me enough to make me respond:
we didn't decide to be conceived, WOMEN decided that. babies are YOUR responsibility.
Never get married
It starts off great. You are in love, head over heels even. And those first couple years are awesome, even if she does put on a couple pounds, you love her anyways. Then the first kid comes along. And it’s okay that she doesn’t have enough time for you, she’s a mom now, she’s busy, itll get better as the kid grows up, but it doesn’t. And you cope and adjust. And then something funny happens, as she gets fatter and more distant you seemingly become the man every other woman wants and random females start throwing themselves at you, tempting you, almost knowing that you are maybe once a month getting any kind of physical affection. But you white knuckle through it. And then the resentment sets in, and you start to despise being around her so maybe you toss yourself into a hobby or become a drunk or a workaholic. And this makes her resent you. And more cope about keeping it together for the kids and the inevitable financial destruction that divorce would bring, blah blah blah. So your choices at the end are shit all the way around.
Never get married
I'm married.
Don't. It's not worth it.
They want all the women for themselves and perceive you as threat.
Have you ever asked yourselves why women wear make-up even when they are in a long-term relationship?
It's to potentially attract an even better male. They are on a permanent lookout to level up.
If a girl still puts on make-up while in a relationship, it you should actually dump her.
tell me no woman wants you without telling me no woman wants you
Good looking people get treated better even outside the context of relationships and sex. This is a well known fact.
They probably mean not to chase women and enjoy life, and then eventually the right woman will come along. If there's mutual attraction and interest, it will be easy. You can interpret it that way or the incel way. Take your pick.
>eventually the right woman will come along
two more weeks brotha
I would say it's more a matter of being more selective and discriminating of who you invest yourself into than outright and complete avoidance. They give that advice because they've been through the wringer with harpies and users. If you find a woman who you think is cool and not psycho, spend a lot of time vetting them to make sure, using your discernment to make character judgements, and still aren't put off, it's worth seeing where it goes. Just don't lower your standards or accept less than what you actually want. If you want love and a long term relationship, then don't waste time with women that don't, don't waste time screwing around with casual sex. Set your standard and hold yourself to it. Never "need" a woman, make your own way and leave room for the right people to join it if you like. If you're desparate and lonely, then that's the wrong time to look for a relationship. In fact, I'd say don't look for one at all. Don't seek them, don't need them, and so when you have the opportunities, you'll be making decisions for the right reasons rather than the wrong ones. Always be cautious and take care of your own emotions, because only you really can. Take everything slow, progress things naturally and step by step, and so the one you finally end up with will be closer to right than wrong. Wait at least 3 months for sex if not longer. If you can wait until the infatuation-phase wears off, even better, because your mind won't be clouded by those strong, new feelings.
The reason they give the advice they do is because most men don't have the resolve to wait and be patient like that, and so have bad experiences as a consequence.
Because every committed man realizes that the sex just isn't worth the hassle. Simple as.
I've heard old men say good and bad things about women
My dad personally got cheated on by my mom, who took everything, and eventually find another woman (My step mom) when I was like 5. I'm 29 now and they've been married since and have an incredibly powerful relationship
but they've expressed to me that it was really shitty at first and they fought really hard to make it good the way it is now and both wanted to dump eachother many times but worked through shit
In the end, they both encourage getting married. My dad too, despite having been fricked over super hard by my mom
My brother as well... he and his wife have been married for 10 years. They've been through tons of shit and they are solid all things considered.
Either way both of them tell me not to worry about finding a wife, and that I should just be doing what I enjoy anyway.
but I couldn't tell you. I'm kind of a man prostitute and I can't resist my lustful urges.
because people tend to settle for what they can get out of fear for ending up alone instead of waiting for someone that matches you 100%. the difference is, when you find someone that's a full match, the little things don't matter. you'll love him/her for their imperfections. but if it's not a 100% match, those imperfections and weird little things they do that you tried to ignore at first just keep on piling up and before you know it, you actually start resenting them for it. Daniell sloss does a good bit about it in jigsaw. I know the kind of men you're talking about, and I know men who are the complete opposite, though they are few.
good post
i am deathly afraid of settling but i'm more than happy enough on my own, so i'm just waiting for the right person
>when you find someone that's a full match, the little things don't matter. you'll love him/her for their imperfections
Yeah, that's how I see it.
Incels say relationships are transactional, which is true for 90% of relationships. Only "soul mate" relationships are immune to this, where your personalities are 100% compatible and it's impossible to imagine being with anyone else. Even if your partner has cancer or gets disfigured, you're gonna stick by them because their personality is just perfect for you.
For the rest of us, it's largely transactional, and kinda doomed to fail tbqh
>tfw thought I found her but she ghosted after the first date
Man does it still sting, and it's been months...
>Women... Can't live with em, can't live without em!
Most women do not make good wives or mothers unfortunately, they just low quality people.
All the good looking women who would make great wives and mothers are taken in high school and college the latest. Whatever remains is taken shortly after they enter the workforce. There exist very few good looking (7 and above) women that are single and have a good heart, are modest, raised in a decent family, soft spoken and pretty. The window of opportunity when they are single is very very narrow. These are the 2% of women, the highest stock of females this wonderful creation can offer. If you don't frequent their circles or the events they attend you have no chance of meeting them. Women also don't go anywhere alone, so whatever hobbies women have or events they attend it is done with their husband or boyfriend and if they are single with their groups of friends.
tldr; there simply aren't enough single good looking young white women to go around for everybody, they are rare and exist mostly in very niche places where men without social circles (loners) can't get in to
Just frick men already.
Tell me exactly what amazing qualities you bring to the table anon