I don't think that is from hrt necessarily, I've seen that before, it might just be a skin thing
I have never seen a single example of skin bleaching working that isn't clearly a shitty photoshop job. If there was a legit solution then wouldn't that product be extremely popular worldwide, and probably extremely expensive too? Everything out there right now comes off as snake oil
>wouldn't that product be extremely popular worldwide,
skin bleaching is incredibly popular worldwide
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I don't think that is from hrt necessarily, I've seen that before, it might just be a skin thing
didn't have this pre-hrt
>skin bleaching is incredibly popular worldwide
Then why is it so hard to find any evidence that it actually works? most of it is moronic third worlders poisoning themselves
1 year ago
Rocktra_
>didn't have this pre-hrt
Correlation doesn't imply causation >Then why is it so hard to find any evidence that it actually works?
What proof are you demanding? There are tons of people who do it
1 year ago
Anonymous
>There are tons of people who do it
There are tons of people who pray, and that obviously doesn't work. This proves nothing except that people are easy to manipulate.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Correlation doesn't imply causation
Well, given that HRT is easily the most significant change my body underwent when I noticed this change, it's obvious to examine that first. Unfortunately, seeing how there are insufficient studies on the effects of HRT, let alone its effects on PoC, there's really no way of knowing. I'd need to hear the anecdotes of a significant amount of dark skinned trans women.
>What proof are you demanding? There are tons of people who do it
Just a timeline in a controlled environment. No selfie shit, no image touching up, no fricking with lighting. For some reason no advertisers or shills are able to provide this.
stuff like kojic acid can help
I'm pale already, but I use kojic acid and other bleaching products on my nipples and genital area and can confirm it worked.
bleaching won't take u from brown to pale, but it will certainly help you to look a few shades lighter.
>but it will certainly help you to look a few shades lighter.
Again, I'd LOVE to see proof. I would drop money for such a product immediately.
1 year ago
Rocktra_
>Just a timeline in a controlled environment.
I feel like that's an impossible task to order
1 year ago
Anonymous
Wouldn't cracking skin lightening be a pretty monumental discovery though? Even if it was only a few shades. Like, I'd figure whoever discovered it would love to demonstrate its effects as transparently as possible, given it'd be a scientific breakthrough. I legit think they'd deserve the Nobel Peace Prize.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Maybe they can't really get away with doing it publicly because of backlash?
1 year ago
Anonymous
It's not out of the question. It's definitely in the interest of the elite to keep us browns brown.
1 year ago
Rocktra_
I don't think anyone is willing to lock themselves indoors for years for science.
And also most people don't care about skin whitening
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I don't think anyone is willing to lock themselves indoors for years for science.
I didn't even mean that extreme lol. Just have the participant drop in to take pics in the same room with the same lighting over the course of however much time the product takes to work. Like good pics for surgical procedures.
Obviously though you'd have to prevent them from getting a ridiculous amount of sun exposure. Imo a reasonable amount w/ sunscreen would be fine though because if the product's effects were no longer discernible after a typical amount of sun exposure, it would honestly be quite useless.
>And also most people don't care about skin whitening
Nah, if there was a product that was safe and proven to work, it would sell gangbusters even in the US.
1 year ago
Rocktra_
>Obviously though you'd have to prevent them from getting a ridiculous amount of sun exposure. Imo a reasonable amount w/ sunscreen would be fine though because if the product's effects were no longer discernible after a typical amount of sun exposure, it would honestly be quite useless.
You prove my point. >Nah, if there was a product that was safe and proven to work, it would sell gangbusters even in the US.
It already sells everywhere it wants to, most people in the west tho don't share your selfhatred
1 year ago
Anonymous
Uhhh you're aware people do way more extreme things for random studies right? What I proposed is extremely casual
>It already sells everywhere it wants to, most people in the west tho don't share your selfhatred
Still no proof
1 year ago
Rocktra_
>Uhhh you're aware people do way more extreme things for random studies right? What I proposed is extremely casual
Your proposal doesn't create the reliable "proof" you want. It leaves open conflicting factors. You can always claim "they got more sun" or "they got less sun" because you are not controlling that. >Still no proof
Its a gigantic market what proof do you want for that too lol
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Your proposal doesn't create the reliable "proof" you want.
See
>didn't have this pre-hrt
Correlation doesn't imply causation >Then why is it so hard to find any evidence that it actually works?
What proof are you demanding? There are tons of people who do it
where you explicitly ask me "What proof are you demanding?" Here I am literally telling you what'd sway me as a consumer.
1 year ago
Rocktra_
I’d point against that you don’t wanna be logical of confounding variables but I don’t think someone who wants to make themselves white is logical anyways so w/e
1 year ago
Anonymous
Just how much do you expect me to scrutinize a product before I give it a whirl lol
Like do you think I invest this much effort into picking conditioner or perfume
1 year ago
Rocktra_
I am criticizing you for not following your logic and scrutinizing it more
1 year ago
Anonymous
Trying a product firsthand isn't a part of scrutinizing it?
1 year ago
Rocktra_
What
1 year ago
Anonymous
the final test is to actually try a product and see if it works duh
[...]
You are both terrifyingly malebrained lol
end me
1 year ago
Rocktra_
>the final test is to actually try a product and see if it works duh
ok....?
1 year ago
Anonymous
...which is a part of scrutinizing a product.
1 year ago
Rocktra_
Good for you ig?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Your proposal doesn't create the reliable "proof" you want.
See [...] where you explicitly ask me "What proof are you demanding?" Here I am literally telling you what'd sway me as a consumer.
I have never seen a single example of skin bleaching working that isn't clearly a shitty photoshop job. If there was a legit solution then wouldn't that product be extremely popular worldwide, and probably extremely expensive too? Everything out there right now comes off as snake oil
stuff like kojic acid can help
I'm pale already, but I use kojic acid and other bleaching products on my nipples and genital area and can confirm it worked.
bleaching won't take u from brown to pale, but it will certainly help you to look a few shades lighter.
it does but depends on ur genes for how much tho, I'm chinese it made me seriously pale especially w/ decent enough skincare + SPF everyday. You can try using kojic acid too if you originally had pale skin but got tanned since it naturally inhibits melanin
sure thing hon
Happened to some.
no
Unironically yes I used to be hot with a deep brown tan in the summer now i just look like a sickly Victorian child with polio
Hot.. The paleness part, not the child part.
It depends on your race, but it is true that your skin can become lighter.
you'll get slightly lighter. The downside is you might end up with splotchy discolored skin in some areas as a result. At least that happened to me. 🙁
>The downside is you might end up with splotchy discolored skin in some areas as a result.
What does that look like?
like this 🙁
maybe i just have garbo genes though
I don't think that is from hrt necessarily, I've seen that before, it might just be a skin thing
>wouldn't that product be extremely popular worldwide,
skin bleaching is incredibly popular worldwide
>I don't think that is from hrt necessarily, I've seen that before, it might just be a skin thing
didn't have this pre-hrt
>skin bleaching is incredibly popular worldwide
Then why is it so hard to find any evidence that it actually works? most of it is moronic third worlders poisoning themselves
>didn't have this pre-hrt
Correlation doesn't imply causation
>Then why is it so hard to find any evidence that it actually works?
What proof are you demanding? There are tons of people who do it
>There are tons of people who do it
There are tons of people who pray, and that obviously doesn't work. This proves nothing except that people are easy to manipulate.
>Correlation doesn't imply causation
Well, given that HRT is easily the most significant change my body underwent when I noticed this change, it's obvious to examine that first. Unfortunately, seeing how there are insufficient studies on the effects of HRT, let alone its effects on PoC, there's really no way of knowing. I'd need to hear the anecdotes of a significant amount of dark skinned trans women.
>What proof are you demanding? There are tons of people who do it
Just a timeline in a controlled environment. No selfie shit, no image touching up, no fricking with lighting. For some reason no advertisers or shills are able to provide this.
>but it will certainly help you to look a few shades lighter.
Again, I'd LOVE to see proof. I would drop money for such a product immediately.
>Just a timeline in a controlled environment.
I feel like that's an impossible task to order
Wouldn't cracking skin lightening be a pretty monumental discovery though? Even if it was only a few shades. Like, I'd figure whoever discovered it would love to demonstrate its effects as transparently as possible, given it'd be a scientific breakthrough. I legit think they'd deserve the Nobel Peace Prize.
Maybe they can't really get away with doing it publicly because of backlash?
It's not out of the question. It's definitely in the interest of the elite to keep us browns brown.
I don't think anyone is willing to lock themselves indoors for years for science.
And also most people don't care about skin whitening
>I don't think anyone is willing to lock themselves indoors for years for science.
I didn't even mean that extreme lol. Just have the participant drop in to take pics in the same room with the same lighting over the course of however much time the product takes to work. Like good pics for surgical procedures.
Obviously though you'd have to prevent them from getting a ridiculous amount of sun exposure. Imo a reasonable amount w/ sunscreen would be fine though because if the product's effects were no longer discernible after a typical amount of sun exposure, it would honestly be quite useless.
>And also most people don't care about skin whitening
Nah, if there was a product that was safe and proven to work, it would sell gangbusters even in the US.
>Obviously though you'd have to prevent them from getting a ridiculous amount of sun exposure. Imo a reasonable amount w/ sunscreen would be fine though because if the product's effects were no longer discernible after a typical amount of sun exposure, it would honestly be quite useless.
You prove my point.
>Nah, if there was a product that was safe and proven to work, it would sell gangbusters even in the US.
It already sells everywhere it wants to, most people in the west tho don't share your selfhatred
Uhhh you're aware people do way more extreme things for random studies right? What I proposed is extremely casual
>It already sells everywhere it wants to, most people in the west tho don't share your selfhatred
Still no proof
>Uhhh you're aware people do way more extreme things for random studies right? What I proposed is extremely casual
Your proposal doesn't create the reliable "proof" you want. It leaves open conflicting factors. You can always claim "they got more sun" or "they got less sun" because you are not controlling that.
>Still no proof
Its a gigantic market what proof do you want for that too lol
>Your proposal doesn't create the reliable "proof" you want.
See
where you explicitly ask me "What proof are you demanding?" Here I am literally telling you what'd sway me as a consumer.
I’d point against that you don’t wanna be logical of confounding variables but I don’t think someone who wants to make themselves white is logical anyways so w/e
Just how much do you expect me to scrutinize a product before I give it a whirl lol
Like do you think I invest this much effort into picking conditioner or perfume
I am criticizing you for not following your logic and scrutinizing it more
Trying a product firsthand isn't a part of scrutinizing it?
What
the final test is to actually try a product and see if it works duh
end me
>the final test is to actually try a product and see if it works duh
ok....?
...which is a part of scrutinizing a product.
Good for you ig?
You are both terrifyingly malebrained lol
Yes HRT will make your skin lighter, but not by much, I'd suggest try skin bleaching too.
Wear sunscreen everyday, it will also prevent aging.
>Wear sunscreen everyday, it will also prevent aging.
That's mostly applicable to white people
no, it applies to white people more but only slightly. sun damage happens to everyone
My mom has sun spots from being in the sun alot when she was young but looks great age wise.
Same for me, we're medis.
I have never seen a single example of skin bleaching working that isn't clearly a shitty photoshop job. If there was a legit solution then wouldn't that product be extremely popular worldwide, and probably extremely expensive too? Everything out there right now comes off as snake oil
Go to SEA.
stuff like kojic acid can help
I'm pale already, but I use kojic acid and other bleaching products on my nipples and genital area and can confirm it worked.
bleaching won't take u from brown to pale, but it will certainly help you to look a few shades lighter.
ye
it does but depends on ur genes for how much tho, I'm chinese it made me seriously pale especially w/ decent enough skincare + SPF everyday. You can try using kojic acid too if you originally had pale skin but got tanned since it naturally inhibits melanin